EPTZergs don't really dominate outside of Korea right now
At least they are not underperforming.
Still thinks that foreign Zs are just way better then foreign Ts and Ps,
so the situation outside Korea is not that bad.
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TW
Poland255 Posts
At least they are not underperforming. Still thinks that foreign Zs are just way better then foreign Ts and Ps, so the situation outside Korea is not that bad. | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24237 Posts
On July 15 2016 22:59 Charoisaur wrote: Before queen buff I'd agree that tvz is t favored but the few games we've seen post-patch looked different. The 3 base pre-hive timing doesn't look unstoppable anymore and the zergs mainly lost because of stupid mistakes. that's why I hope we give this patch some time. Sadly a lot of Z already got TvZed before the patch and maybe the ones remaining lacked time to understand the subtleties and things you can abuse with this queen range meta. | ||
stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On July 15 2016 22:51 Seeker wrote: So the retired guy made it through the Ro32 while SKT and CJ regulars are stuck in Code A. Well... Fuck... I mean, as much as I love TaeJa, this is... There's got to some damn line drawn at some point, you know? 3rd GOAT | ||
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RaFox17
Finland4581 Posts
Liquid-bias makes it that it is confirmed  | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16021 Posts
He'll be #1 goat after he wins gsl qualifies for blizzcon and wins that as well. | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24237 Posts
On July 15 2016 23:07 Charoisaur wrote: He'll be #1 goat after he wins gsl qualifies for blizzcon and wins that as well. sign me up for that storyline | ||
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12376 Posts
I realize that, but we don't think that zerg sucks in Korea because Taeja and Maru won today, we think that because there is a consistent trend over a lot of the late korean results. We don't have that for foreign zergs. They're doing well in Valencia, which tells me that they aren't underperforming, but there is no trend that would lead me to accept that they "dominate" outside of Korea. They're doing okay, probably slightly better than they should vs terran, but there's no domination. | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24237 Posts
On July 15 2016 23:10 Nebuchad wrote: I realize that, but we don't think that zerg sucks in Korea because Taeja and Maru won today, we think that because there is a consistent trend over a lot of the late korean results. We don't have that for foreign zergs. They're doing well in Valencia, which tells me that they aren't underperforming, but there is no trend that would lead me to accept that they "dominate" outside of Korea. They're doing okay, probably slightly better than they should vs terran, but there's no domination. yeah but as I said the patch is recent and I think it should really help Z in both mus ; problem is a lot of Zs had been eliminated before or couldn't get enough practice to succeed vs very strong opponents. Even more problematic is the fact we will basically get zero competition until Blizzcon with high level Z vs high level Koreans, so it will be incredibly hard to assess if further action is needed before Blizzcon. | ||
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WidowMineHero
New Zealand143 Posts
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RaFox17
Finland4581 Posts
On July 15 2016 23:12 [PkF] Wire wrote: yeah but as I said the patch is recent and I think it should really help Z in both mus ; problem is a lot of Zs had been eliminated before or couldn't get enough practice to succeed vs very strong opponents. Even more problematic is the fact we will basically get zero competition until Blizzcon with high level Z vs high level Koreans, so it will be incredibly hard to assess if further action is needed before Blizzcon. At Blizzcon there will be Dark representing Z and who else?? | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24237 Posts
On July 15 2016 23:15 RaFox17 wrote: At Blizzcon there will be Dark representing Z and who else?? for KR probably no one, there will be a lot of foreign Z though. But yeah only Dark. Though he can very well go on to win the whole thing, a bit like Life when he won his Blizzcon in a rather bad Z meta. EDIT : in fact Solar has a decent shot at Blizzcon | ||
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Vanadiel
France961 Posts
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dankobanana
Croatia238 Posts
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mCon.Hephaistas
Netherlands891 Posts
On July 15 2016 22:59 Charoisaur wrote: Before queen buff I'd agree that tvz is t favored but the few games we've seen post-patch looked different. The 3 base pre-hive timing doesn't look unstoppable anymore and the zergs mainly lost because of stupid mistakes. Pretty sure before the patch you were also saying TvZ was fine, and now suddenly it was not, funny. Anyway will be fun to see only Dark in the next round of GSL and SSL. | ||
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royalroadweed
United States8301 Posts
On July 15 2016 22:59 TW wrote: At least they are not underperforming. Still thinks that foreign Zs are just way better then foreign Ts and Ps, so the situation outside Korea is not that bad. Korean Zs are just way worse than Korean Ts and Ps. | ||
Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37055 Posts
Pretty sure you wrote that for WoL/HotS | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
 So we will have Dark and maybe Rogue in the ro16, cool | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16021 Posts
On July 15 2016 23:43 mCon.Hephaistas wrote: Pretty sure before the patch you were also saying TvZ was fine, and now suddenly it was not, funny. Anyway will be fun to see only Dark in the next round of GSL and SSL. I never said that so stop spouting nonsense. | ||
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Zephyp
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Creager
Germany1920 Posts
On July 16 2016 00:34 Zephyp wrote: The zerg presence in GSL and SSL is disappointing. Better watch WCS bro, this is Terran territory :D #teamblue | ||
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