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[DreamHack] LOTV Championship - Day 2 - Page 61

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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18507 Posts
November 27 2015 20:31 GMT
#1201
Is Solar the only capable zerg?
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
November 27 2015 20:41 GMT
#1202
On November 28 2015 05:17 OtherWorld wrote:
Also, Ej_, do you have any comments to make about Nerchio's performance? (;

terrible BOs in games 4 and 5, I already said it.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
November 27 2015 20:44 GMT
#1203
On November 28 2015 05:31 sharkie wrote:
Is Solar the only capable zerg?

Being the only Korean Zerg in a tournament can create that feeling.

He is awfully good at Lotv, though.
Flash | Mvp
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
November 27 2015 20:48 GMT
#1204
On November 28 2015 05:31 sharkie wrote:
Is Solar the only capable zerg?

The only capable Zerg with 1500 LotV games probably.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12904 Posts
November 27 2015 20:50 GMT
#1205
By the way I heard some french casters (in Nation Wars) and the Acer SC2 squad manager hype up Bly and Nerchio a lot like they are dominating LotV in Europe.
I understand that Nerchio barely lost so the.statement can still hold true, but Bly lost 3-0 and in the posts I read he was apparently dominated hard by Showtime, why is that?

I wanted to see some domimance after such hype :/.
WriterMaru
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
November 27 2015 20:52 GMT
#1206
Solar is the Winner, PartinG is Unbelievable and Showtime is the big surprise. I can imagine Surprise surprising the Winner, but not the Unbelievable one ...
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
November 27 2015 20:53 GMT
#1207
On November 28 2015 05:50 Poopi wrote:
By the way I heard some french casters (in Nation Wars) and the Acer SC2 squad manager hype up Bly and Nerchio a lot like they are dominating LotV in Europe.
I understand that Nerchio barely lost so the.statement can still hold true, but Bly lost 3-0 and in the posts I read he was apparently dominated hard by Showtime, why is that?

I wanted to see some domimance after such hype :/.

There was full dominance. Showtime dominated all the Zergs ...
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-27 20:58:42
November 27 2015 20:56 GMT
#1208
On November 28 2015 05:50 Poopi wrote:
By the way I heard some french casters (in Nation Wars) and the Acer SC2 squad manager hype up Bly and Nerchio a lot like they are dominating LotV in Europe.
I understand that Nerchio barely lost so the.statement can still hold true, but Bly lost 3-0 and in the posts I read he was apparently dominated hard by Showtime, why is that?

I wanted to see some domimance after such hype :/.


How casters / "experts" hype a player : Check aligulac if MUH GREEN ARROW -> Hypeeeeee !
They literally did not watch any game.

There was a time when people actually gave a shit about what truly went on during games, checked how the guy multitasked, how was his APM, his control groups, his building placements, his timings and so on...Not theses days D:
RIP MKP
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-27 21:05:34
November 27 2015 21:03 GMT
#1209
I don't like 3 day tournaments. 2 days should be max.

Am I expected to order pizza 3 times in a row? Of course I won't. Let's keep it all in 1 day plz
rip passion
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
November 27 2015 21:13 GMT
#1210
On November 28 2015 06:03 Deathstar wrote:
I don't like 3 day tournaments. 2 days should be max.

Am I expected to order pizza 3 times in a row? Of course I won't. Let's keep it all in 1 day plz

You don't have enough passion to get yourself pizza?
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12904 Posts
November 27 2015 21:13 GMT
#1211
On November 28 2015 05:56 shid0x wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2015 05:50 Poopi wrote:
By the way I heard some french casters (in Nation Wars) and the Acer SC2 squad manager hype up Bly and Nerchio a lot like they are dominating LotV in Europe.
I understand that Nerchio barely lost so the.statement can still hold true, but Bly lost 3-0 and in the posts I read he was apparently dominated hard by Showtime, why is that?

I wanted to see some domimance after such hype :/.


How casters / "experts" hype a player : Check aligulac if MUH GREEN ARROW -> Hypeeeeee !
They literally did not watch any game.

There was a time when people actually gave a shit about what truly went on during games, checked how the guy multitasked, how was his APM, his control groups, his building placements, his timings and so on...Not theses days D:

You realize Bly and Nerchio are both from Acer and their manager watched some of their ladder games right?
My guess is that Bly played a lot of ladder games and has been studied well by ShowTiMe who was no pushover already, but still, I'm a bit disappointed by the results of this Dreamhack.
FireCake played some smash melee so I hope he'll beat whoever foreign player he meets.
WriterMaru
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
November 27 2015 21:16 GMT
#1212
On November 28 2015 06:13 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2015 06:03 Deathstar wrote:
I don't like 3 day tournaments. 2 days should be max.

Am I expected to order pizza 3 times in a row? Of course I won't. Let's keep it all in 1 day plz

You don't have enough passion to get yourself pizza?


I have a lot of passion, but not unlimited passion
rip passion
Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
November 27 2015 21:16 GMT
#1213
On November 28 2015 05:56 shid0x wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2015 05:50 Poopi wrote:
By the way I heard some french casters (in Nation Wars) and the Acer SC2 squad manager hype up Bly and Nerchio a lot like they are dominating LotV in Europe.
I understand that Nerchio barely lost so the.statement can still hold true, but Bly lost 3-0 and in the posts I read he was apparently dominated hard by Showtime, why is that?

I wanted to see some domimance after such hype :/.


How casters / "experts" hype a player : Check aligulac if MUH GREEN ARROW -> Hypeeeeee !
They literally did not watch any game.

There was a time when people actually gave a shit about what truly went on during games, checked how the guy multitasked, how was his APM, his control groups, his building placements, his timings and so on...Not theses days D:


A Esport goes down, when the Casters stop talking about a game and try to work out with their "personality".

Believe a Football-Commentator would make jokes about the shoes of that guy over a minute, while a goal happens. In SC II this happens and it sucks. No Problem with talking in times where nothing happens, but these are almost gone in LotV and Casters did not adept a single bit to the new times where casting has to be on point the whole game long.

Bomber, Attacker, DD, SOMEBODY, NiKo, Nex, Spidii
shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-27 21:23:42
November 27 2015 21:22 GMT
#1214
On November 28 2015 06:13 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2015 05:56 shid0x wrote:
On November 28 2015 05:50 Poopi wrote:
By the way I heard some french casters (in Nation Wars) and the Acer SC2 squad manager hype up Bly and Nerchio a lot like they are dominating LotV in Europe.
I understand that Nerchio barely lost so the.statement can still hold true, but Bly lost 3-0 and in the posts I read he was apparently dominated hard by Showtime, why is that?

I wanted to see some domimance after such hype :/.


How casters / "experts" hype a player : Check aligulac if MUH GREEN ARROW -> Hypeeeeee !
They literally did not watch any game.

There was a time when people actually gave a shit about what truly went on during games, checked how the guy multitasked, how was his APM, his control groups, his building placements, his timings and so on...Not theses days D:

You realize Bly and Nerchio are both from Acer and their manager watched some of their ladder games right?
My guess is that Bly played a lot of ladder games and has been studied well by ShowTiMe who was no pushover already, but still, I'm a bit disappointed by the results of this Dreamhack.
FireCake played some smash melee so I hope he'll beat whoever foreign player he meets.


Yeah and so did I.
They were good but nothing to be amazed at considering the novelty of the game.
I'm inviting you to check to VoD and check their games you'll see its not that amazing, its just that their opponents were worse.

RIP MKP
FrostPilot
Profile Joined August 2015
31 Posts
November 27 2015 21:27 GMT
#1215

Believe a Football-Commentator would make jokes about the shoes of that guy over a minute, while a goal happens. In SC II this happens and it sucks.

Too much jokes.
Too much silly jokes.
Reminded my of the last HSC finals.
But I liked Snute's comments.
jeeeeohn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States1343 Posts
November 27 2015 21:28 GMT
#1216
Firecake is guaranteed part of the prizepool, really good showing from him. And Showtime was fantastic. I'll be rooting for both of them tomorrow! :D

Though I hope Nerchio makes a comeback...
If you can't jam with the best, then you have to slam with the rest.
Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
November 27 2015 21:31 GMT
#1217
On November 28 2015 06:27 FrostPilot wrote:
Show nested quote +

Believe a Football-Commentator would make jokes about the shoes of that guy over a minute, while a goal happens. In SC II this happens and it sucks.

Too much jokes.
Too much silly jokes.
Reminded my of the last HSC finals.
But I liked Snute's comments.


HSC might be the only tournament where I accept it as the whole production is literally 3 dudes sit on a couch, 32 dudes play poker, Looping Luie or drink beer downstairs while some games are going on. But Dreamhack should show some professionality, same goes for alot of other tournaments. But it seems that all Casters in SC II must show their "personality" as much as possible instead of just... doing a good casting job.

Bomber, Attacker, DD, SOMEBODY, NiKo, Nex, Spidii
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
November 27 2015 21:47 GMT
#1218
On November 28 2015 05:50 Poopi wrote:
By the way I heard some french casters (in Nation Wars) and the Acer SC2 squad manager hype up Bly and Nerchio a lot like they are dominating LotV in Europe.
I understand that Nerchio barely lost so the.statement can still hold true, but Bly lost 3-0 and in the posts I read he was apparently dominated hard by Showtime, why is that?

I wanted to see some domimance after such hype :/.


Showtime was really really good today and Bly not too much on point.
Zest fanboy.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
November 27 2015 21:48 GMT
#1219
On November 28 2015 05:56 shid0x wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2015 05:50 Poopi wrote:
By the way I heard some french casters (in Nation Wars) and the Acer SC2 squad manager hype up Bly and Nerchio a lot like they are dominating LotV in Europe.
I understand that Nerchio barely lost so the.statement can still hold true, but Bly lost 3-0 and in the posts I read he was apparently dominated hard by Showtime, why is that?

I wanted to see some domimance after such hype :/.


How casters / "experts" hype a player : Check aligulac if MUH GREEN ARROW -> Hypeeeeee !
They literally did not watch any game.

There was a time when people actually gave a shit about what truly went on during games, checked how the guy multitasked, how was his APM, his control groups, his building placements, his timings and so on...Not theses days D:


if you knew what you were talking about it'd be great.
Zest fanboy.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
November 27 2015 21:51 GMT
#1220
On November 28 2015 06:16 Clonester wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2015 05:56 shid0x wrote:
On November 28 2015 05:50 Poopi wrote:
By the way I heard some french casters (in Nation Wars) and the Acer SC2 squad manager hype up Bly and Nerchio a lot like they are dominating LotV in Europe.
I understand that Nerchio barely lost so the.statement can still hold true, but Bly lost 3-0 and in the posts I read he was apparently dominated hard by Showtime, why is that?

I wanted to see some domimance after such hype :/.


How casters / "experts" hype a player : Check aligulac if MUH GREEN ARROW -> Hypeeeeee !
They literally did not watch any game.

There was a time when people actually gave a shit about what truly went on during games, checked how the guy multitasked, how was his APM, his control groups, his building placements, his timings and so on...Not theses days D:


A Esport goes down, when the Casters stop talking about a game and try to work out with their "personality".

Believe a Football-Commentator would make jokes about the shoes of that guy over a minute, while a goal happens. In SC II this happens and it sucks. No Problem with talking in times where nothing happens, but these are almost gone in LotV and Casters did not adept a single bit to the new times where casting has to be on point the whole game long.



Well to be fair in most of the SC2 games we can see the general direction of a game at preaty much any time pass the early stage. One single battle won't change the game drastically most of the time unless there is an amazing engagement or one player make a big mistake, while in football well only goal matter the rest is not important for the outcome of the game.

There is the same type of commentary in Americain football or in Basketball, they will often not realy talk about was is going on on the field and talk about other things.

Altough I agree that some SC2 caster do it a lot, and it would be nice if they try to talk about the game more, even if it is more "basic" things like the build, the tought process behind certain tactiks, the timming that the player is trying to hit...
All foreigner Lan caster outside of Apolo and Kaelaris are GM and know the game on the tip of their finger, but I feel like a lot of the time they take for granted that everybody is gonna see things that are obvious for them.
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