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JoeCool
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany2520 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-07 00:35:28
November 07 2015 00:34 GMT
#4481
On November 07 2015 09:32 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2015 09:30 JoeCool wrote:
On November 07 2015 09:29 Ingvar wrote:
Terran talent pool has thinned out. GomTvT sons are retiring one by one and there is no-one to step up. You know something is fundamentally wrong with your race if your up and coming talent is Dream.


Kinda mean but true... Theres really no good terran besides Innovation and Maru.

Gumiho is the #2 right now. Dream has been pretty good. Ty has been OK throughout all of HotS and lately. Flash is the Rogue of Terran.


Tbh I wouldn't bet my money on any of those players if they face Classic/Rain/sOs/herO/PartinG/Life/Rogue/Dark/Byul...
chambertin
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1704 Posts
November 07 2015 00:34 GMT
#4482
On November 07 2015 09:34 royalroadweed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2015 09:32 Big J wrote:
On November 07 2015 09:30 JoeCool wrote:
On November 07 2015 09:29 Ingvar wrote:
Terran talent pool has thinned out. GomTvT sons are retiring one by one and there is no-one to step up. You know something is fundamentally wrong with your race if your up and coming talent is Dream.


Kinda mean but true... Theres really no good terran besides Innovation and Maru.

Gumiho is the #2 right now. Dream has been pretty good. Ty has been OK throughout all of HotS and lately. Flash is the Rogue of Terran.

ByuNjwa.


the only hope...

ByuNjwa aka Luke Skywalker
"I know one thing, that I know nothing" - Socrates?
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
November 07 2015 00:35 GMT
#4483
On November 07 2015 09:33 PinheadXXXXXX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2015 09:29 Ingvar wrote:
Terran talent pool has thinned out. GomTvT sons are retiring one by one and there is no-one to step up. You know something is fundamentally wrong with your race if your up and coming talent is Dream.

It looked very good about a year ago though. Dream was doing great, Cure was wrecking, MMA somehow made it to Ro4 despite all odds. All terrans have just been floudering for teh past 4 months though, except innovation resisted. He's finally given in, I guess

And Flash was looking good too, he won that IEM before Blizzcon(which was stacked), was excellent in PL.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
PinheadXXXXXX
Profile Joined February 2012
United States897 Posts
November 07 2015 00:35 GMT
#4484
On November 07 2015 09:34 Psychonian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2015 09:33 PinheadXXXXXX wrote:
On November 07 2015 09:29 Ingvar wrote:
Terran talent pool has thinned out. GomTvT sons are retiring one by one and there is no-one to step up. You know something is fundamentally wrong with your race if your up and coming talent is Dream.

It looked very good about a year ago though. Dream was doing great, Cure was wrecking, MMA somehow made it to Ro4 despite all odds. All terrans have just been floudering for teh past 4 months though, except innovation resisted. He's finally given in, I guess

MMA was Life's opponent in Blizzcon finals last year actually

Yeah, that, I was referring to GSL season 1 though
Taeja the one true Byunjwa~
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
November 07 2015 00:35 GMT
#4485
Rain 3-0 sOs
SorrowShine
Profile Joined October 2011
698 Posts
November 07 2015 00:35 GMT
#4486
When you look at these games you think: "Meh. Inno played shitty. RIP. etc".
But in a whole as a series Life killed Inno mentally.
And unfolding of this decimation was a real pleasure to see.
So still enjoyed the series immensely.

Though pure SC2 quality was in Hero vs. Classic. Especially Game 3.
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
November 07 2015 00:35 GMT
#4487
On November 07 2015 09:33 wjat wrote:
Lol, I don't want to be mean, but is there someone who woke up this morning and said to himself "AH YISS TODAY IT'S ROGUE VS HYDRA."

I woke up and said 'AWWW YEA MARU CAN GET REVENGE ON DREAM TODAY AFTER LOSING IN PROLEAGUE FINALS AND DENYING US AN ACE MATCH', then I realised I was (T)Dreaming .
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
November 07 2015 00:35 GMT
#4488
On November 07 2015 09:34 chambertin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2015 09:34 royalroadweed wrote:
On November 07 2015 09:32 Big J wrote:
On November 07 2015 09:30 JoeCool wrote:
On November 07 2015 09:29 Ingvar wrote:
Terran talent pool has thinned out. GomTvT sons are retiring one by one and there is no-one to step up. You know something is fundamentally wrong with your race if your up and coming talent is Dream.


Kinda mean but true... Theres really no good terran besides Innovation and Maru.

Gumiho is the #2 right now. Dream has been pretty good. Ty has been OK throughout all of HotS and lately. Flash is the Rogue of Terran.

ByuNjwa.


the only hope...

ByuNjwa aka Luke Skywalker

He has to travel to Dagobah system!
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
November 07 2015 00:35 GMT
#4489
ughh PvP and ZvZ.
rip passion
TheWinks
Profile Joined July 2011
United States572 Posts
November 07 2015 00:36 GMT
#4490
On November 07 2015 09:30 JoeCool wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2015 09:29 Ingvar wrote:
Terran talent pool has thinned out. GomTvT sons are retiring one by one and there is no-one to step up. You know something is fundamentally wrong with your race if your up and coming talent is Dream.


Kinda mean but true... Theres really no good terran besides Innovation and Maru.

Just like there were no good terrans besides Taeja, Innovation, and Mvp at the end of wings? I think cause and effect has been confused here.
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
November 07 2015 00:36 GMT
#4491
On November 07 2015 09:35 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2015 09:33 PinheadXXXXXX wrote:
On November 07 2015 09:29 Ingvar wrote:
Terran talent pool has thinned out. GomTvT sons are retiring one by one and there is no-one to step up. You know something is fundamentally wrong with your race if your up and coming talent is Dream.

It looked very good about a year ago though. Dream was doing great, Cure was wrecking, MMA somehow made it to Ro4 despite all odds. All terrans have just been floudering for teh past 4 months though, except innovation resisted. He's finally given in, I guess

And Flash was looking good too, he won that IEM before Blizzcon(which was stacked), was excellent in PL.

Flash hasn't looked good in a year.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
November 07 2015 00:36 GMT
#4492
On November 07 2015 09:35 Deathstar wrote:
ughh PvP and ZvZ.

best match-ups
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
November 07 2015 00:36 GMT
#4493
remember that one time Byun actually got close to winning a major tournament though? epic choke vs seed. absolutely embarrassing. no wonder he went into hiding for 2 years
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
November 07 2015 00:36 GMT
#4494
On November 07 2015 09:36 royalroadweed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2015 09:35 deacon.frost wrote:
On November 07 2015 09:33 PinheadXXXXXX wrote:
On November 07 2015 09:29 Ingvar wrote:
Terran talent pool has thinned out. GomTvT sons are retiring one by one and there is no-one to step up. You know something is fundamentally wrong with your race if your up and coming talent is Dream.

It looked very good about a year ago though. Dream was doing great, Cure was wrecking, MMA somehow made it to Ro4 despite all odds. All terrans have just been floudering for teh past 4 months though, except innovation resisted. He's finally given in, I guess

And Flash was looking good too, he won that IEM before Blizzcon(which was stacked), was excellent in PL.

Flash hasn't looked good in a year.

Yes, we are talking about a period a year ago
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Maniak_
Profile Joined October 2010
France305 Posts
November 07 2015 00:37 GMT
#4495
On November 07 2015 09:36 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2015 09:35 Deathstar wrote:
ughh PvP and ZvZ.

best match-ups


As long as there's no terran, anything is the best match-up
"They make psychiatrists get psychoanalyzed before they can get certified, but they don't make a surgeon get cut on. Does that seem right to you?" -- Jubal Early - Firefly
Ansinjunger
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2451 Posts
November 07 2015 00:37 GMT
#4496
It was pretty frustrating to watch those upgrades fall behind for Inno.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
November 07 2015 00:37 GMT
#4497
On November 07 2015 09:36 Shellshock wrote:
remember that one time Byun actually got close to winning a major tournament though? epic choke vs seed. absolutely embarrassing. no wonder he went into hiding for 2 years

Cure came close to winning something too (3-4 vs INno in the semifinals right ? And he would have gotten a freewin vs soO) and disappeared.
Jj_82
Profile Joined December 2012
Swaziland419 Posts
November 07 2015 00:37 GMT
#4498
On November 07 2015 09:35 SorrowShine wrote:
When you look at these games you think: "Meh. Inno played shitty. RIP. etc".
But in a whole as a series Life killed Inno mentally.
And unfolding of this decimation was a real pleasure to see.
So still enjoyed the series immensely.

Though pure SC2 quality was in Hero vs. Classic. Especially Game 3.
Well, I don't know. He just made roaches and slipped in some Lings... Good, I've already visited the letting-off-steam-thread.
Once rode a waterslide with PartinG and TaeJa ✌
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
November 07 2015 00:37 GMT
#4499
On November 07 2015 09:36 Shellshock wrote:
remember that one time Byun actually got close to winning a major tournament though? epic choke vs seed. absolutely embarrassing. no wonder he went into hiding for 2 years

Thats why I think he can win shoutcraft. Its online and his nerves has less of a chance of getting the better of him this time.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
wjat
Profile Joined August 2015
385 Posts
November 07 2015 00:37 GMT
#4500
On November 07 2015 09:34 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2015 09:33 Beakyboo wrote:
Odd gg timing?... He was 2 base vs 3 and down like 30 supply. The fight was clearly in Life's favor and inno absolutely needed to win that fight and deal economic damage.


Well I exaggerated this too much maybe but the fight initially looked like the bio was holding fine. He could have backed off with it, or at least stuck it through. It's his final game and he didn't even stick it out until his units were dead. It felt rushed, compared to what other players do, considering it's match point. And coming off the back of a game with a strategy so bizarre it just leaves me speechless. That series just isn't how Inno plays TvZ, so why did he do that. I don't want to insinuate too much but.. that series just seemed very odd to me.

seems to be what he prepared for the series, and to be fair he should have won with it on IF. The IF game was the turning point, it probably crushed INno's soul.


I think that if life didn't catch those hellions and see that thor drop, he would have loose the third. Moreover I think Innovation "f2" his Thor back when he could have sniped a queen at the third at least
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