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[WCS] EU Challenger - Day 2 Season 3 2015 - Page 20

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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
July 28 2015 16:55 GMT
#381
I like Rotti pointing out "Hatch first on the low ground."
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
mYiKane
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1772 Posts
July 28 2015 16:55 GMT
#382
Bly going on the upper path is terrible. Lings got there so late.
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
July 28 2015 16:55 GMT
#383
On July 29 2015 01:55 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2015 01:54 Benk wrote:
Did anyone notice that Starbuck used profanity during his match vs Bunny?

According to WCS rules, this is a violation that is left up to the organizers on how it is going to be disciplined?

This doesn't sit well with me since it's not systematic enough and I feel that it opens the door to prejudiced decisions.

Is there somewhere to make suggestions?

When was this? He was just talking to RememberMe if I recall correctly.

And Nani told not-Chill to get the fuck out.

It's all a matter of context.
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 28 2015 16:56 GMT
#384
TLO said he held 10pool bane with 15hatchery 9 times out of 10
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 28 2015 16:56 GMT
#385
On July 29 2015 01:55 Elentos wrote:
I like Rotti pointing out "Hatch first on the low ground."

we have 2 of the most creative zergs in this game. doesn't hurt to let people know
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
July 28 2015 16:56 GMT
#386
On July 29 2015 01:56 Ej_ wrote:
TLO said he held 10pool bane with 15hatchery 9 times out of 10

But this is the 1 that matters...
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Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24593 Posts
July 28 2015 16:56 GMT
#387
On July 29 2015 01:55 Yorkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2015 01:53 Heartland wrote:
On July 29 2015 01:52 Yorkie wrote:
On July 29 2015 01:51 Heartland wrote:
Foreigners, like Koreans, have an entire year to amass points for the finals. It's not make or break with a single challenger game at all.

And he has spent all year amassing them, but he needed to win this one to have a shot.


...and he could have just as well made more points in any other tour during the year and been totally fine in bombing out here.

Yeah silly Bunny falling out in the semifinals to Polt and Lilbow in the two previous seasons. Should've just won that idiot. It was so easy! :D


My point is that Bunny is overall worse than people who have more points than him and that this is proven in his performance throughout the entire year, while you're implying that he's just got "one shot" overall and that the system is somehow unfair.
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
July 28 2015 16:56 GMT
#388
On July 29 2015 01:54 Yorkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2015 01:51 OtherWorld wrote:
On July 29 2015 01:48 Yorkie wrote:
Blizzard enforces super strict region lock, still no foreigners at blizzcon :D :D :D

I don't see how this is surprising though. The "super strict region lock" came with "let's make the KR region way, way richer than before"

It deserves to be lmao. Look at the recent Code S groups announced. There isn't a single weak group there. Know why? Because we have ~50 amazing Korean players competing to get into a 32 man GSL and 16 man SSL. Everything is stacked and oftentimes great players don't even qualify. But this is what everyone wanted

Uh? Yeah I agree, Korea deserved to be richer and that's great. But the goal of Blizzard's policy for this year was clearly not to insta-get two or three foreigners at BlizzCon, else they would have done things differently.
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Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
July 28 2015 16:57 GMT
#389
On July 29 2015 01:55 Kaizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2015 01:51 Yorkie wrote:
On July 29 2015 01:49 Kaizor wrote:
On July 29 2015 01:46 Yorkie wrote:
Make semifinals in previous season, still have to play a single challenger match to determine your fate for the entire year of sc2! Nice!


If making semi-finals in the previous season was that definitive, Bunny should had no problem with Starbuck in this series.

But looking at the upsets in challenger this year, i think its quite conclusive that Foreigners are just too inconsistent.

Making semis keeps you in GSL and SSL. It's not a matter of consistency, you earned the right to avoid being cheesed out of the next season by performing well. If you are inconsistent you will fall out in the first round of Code S/SSL but you should be invited back imo


I don't think using GSL and SSL are good examples. You don't make semis in them without being really good. I would hardly classify making Semis in WCS as proving yourself as a really good player

Even if you don't agree with that.

I will seriously disagree that Bunny was cheesed out. For crying out loud, Starbuck was basically doing the same freaking thing the entire series. ROACHES. In a BO5.

There was no excuse at all to not just play safer for 1 game.


Making semis in GSL proves you are a top GSL player. Making top 4 in WCS (twice in a row no less) means you are a top WCS player. It's all relative, you can't really compare the two. And no Bunny didn't get cheesed out but people have and that's why I feel it's important that top performers are rewarded with seeds into the next season
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
July 28 2015 16:57 GMT
#390
GJ Bly for killing the larva but why not kill hatch?
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Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14461 Posts
July 28 2015 16:57 GMT
#391
On July 29 2015 01:54 Benk wrote:
Did anyone notice that Starbuck used profanity during his match vs Bunny?

According to WCS rules, this is a violation that is left up to the organizers on how it is going to be disciplined?

This doesn't sit well with me since it's not systematic enough and I feel that it opens the door to prejudiced decisions.

Is there somewhere to make suggestions?

Don't steal my job please.
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 28 2015 16:57 GMT
#392
Somewhere, Artosis screams "THIS BUILD IS SOOO BAAD"
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
fruity.
Profile Joined April 2012
England1711 Posts
July 28 2015 16:57 GMT
#393
Ah Ma Gad, almost missed TLO.

I've also got cookies (those nice triple choc inhouse jobs from Sainsbury's, and no you can't have any)
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Kaizor
Profile Joined May 2015
Singapore909 Posts
July 28 2015 16:59 GMT
#394
On July 29 2015 01:57 Yorkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2015 01:55 Kaizor wrote:
On July 29 2015 01:51 Yorkie wrote:
On July 29 2015 01:49 Kaizor wrote:
On July 29 2015 01:46 Yorkie wrote:
Make semifinals in previous season, still have to play a single challenger match to determine your fate for the entire year of sc2! Nice!


If making semi-finals in the previous season was that definitive, Bunny should had no problem with Starbuck in this series.

But looking at the upsets in challenger this year, i think its quite conclusive that Foreigners are just too inconsistent.

Making semis keeps you in GSL and SSL. It's not a matter of consistency, you earned the right to avoid being cheesed out of the next season by performing well. If you are inconsistent you will fall out in the first round of Code S/SSL but you should be invited back imo


I don't think using GSL and SSL are good examples. You don't make semis in them without being really good. I would hardly classify making Semis in WCS as proving yourself as a really good player

Even if you don't agree with that.

I will seriously disagree that Bunny was cheesed out. For crying out loud, Starbuck was basically doing the same freaking thing the entire series. ROACHES. In a BO5.

There was no excuse at all to not just play safer for 1 game.


that's why I feel it's important that top performers are rewarded with seeds into the next season


Even if they are performing like how Bunny perform in that series?
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Supter
Profile Joined February 2011
France382 Posts
July 28 2015 16:59 GMT
#395
On July 29 2015 01:57 Yorkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2015 01:55 Kaizor wrote:
On July 29 2015 01:51 Yorkie wrote:
On July 29 2015 01:49 Kaizor wrote:
On July 29 2015 01:46 Yorkie wrote:
Make semifinals in previous season, still have to play a single challenger match to determine your fate for the entire year of sc2! Nice!


If making semi-finals in the previous season was that definitive, Bunny should had no problem with Starbuck in this series.

But looking at the upsets in challenger this year, i think its quite conclusive that Foreigners are just too inconsistent.

Making semis keeps you in GSL and SSL. It's not a matter of consistency, you earned the right to avoid being cheesed out of the next season by performing well. If you are inconsistent you will fall out in the first round of Code S/SSL but you should be invited back imo


I don't think using GSL and SSL are good examples. You don't make semis in them without being really good. I would hardly classify making Semis in WCS as proving yourself as a really good player

Even if you don't agree with that.

I will seriously disagree that Bunny was cheesed out. For crying out loud, Starbuck was basically doing the same freaking thing the entire series. ROACHES. In a BO5.

There was no excuse at all to not just play safer for 1 game.


Making semis in GSL proves you are a top GSL player. Making top 4 in WCS (twice in a row no less) means you are a top WCS player. It's all relative, you can't really compare the two. And no Bunny didn't get cheesed out but people have and that's why I feel it's important that top performers are rewarded with seeds into the next season


4 roach all-ins is what I call getting cheesed out. Doesn't mean Bunny couldn't hold them, but they were still all-ins.
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
July 28 2015 16:59 GMT
#396
On July 29 2015 01:56 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2015 01:55 Yorkie wrote:
On July 29 2015 01:53 Heartland wrote:
On July 29 2015 01:52 Yorkie wrote:
On July 29 2015 01:51 Heartland wrote:
Foreigners, like Koreans, have an entire year to amass points for the finals. It's not make or break with a single challenger game at all.

And he has spent all year amassing them, but he needed to win this one to have a shot.


...and he could have just as well made more points in any other tour during the year and been totally fine in bombing out here.

Yeah silly Bunny falling out in the semifinals to Polt and Lilbow in the two previous seasons. Should've just won that idiot. It was so easy! :D


My point is that Bunny is overall worse than people who have more points than him and that this is proven in his performance throughout the entire year, while you're implying that he's just got "one shot" overall and that the system is somehow unfair.

I've always thought one bo5 to determine whether you get to compete in any fashion besides weekly tournaments in sc2 for the next 3 months is moronic, but in this case I'm only saying that this series was Bunny's only shot at making Blizzcon starting from this moment. Yes if he won the two previous wcs seasons he'd be in a better spot, i think we all see that's obvious.
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
July 28 2015 17:00 GMT
#397
TLO just won
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Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
July 28 2015 17:01 GMT
#398
On July 29 2015 01:59 Kaizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2015 01:57 Yorkie wrote:
On July 29 2015 01:55 Kaizor wrote:
On July 29 2015 01:51 Yorkie wrote:
On July 29 2015 01:49 Kaizor wrote:
On July 29 2015 01:46 Yorkie wrote:
Make semifinals in previous season, still have to play a single challenger match to determine your fate for the entire year of sc2! Nice!


If making semi-finals in the previous season was that definitive, Bunny should had no problem with Starbuck in this series.

But looking at the upsets in challenger this year, i think its quite conclusive that Foreigners are just too inconsistent.

Making semis keeps you in GSL and SSL. It's not a matter of consistency, you earned the right to avoid being cheesed out of the next season by performing well. If you are inconsistent you will fall out in the first round of Code S/SSL but you should be invited back imo


I don't think using GSL and SSL are good examples. You don't make semis in them without being really good. I would hardly classify making Semis in WCS as proving yourself as a really good player

Even if you don't agree with that.

I will seriously disagree that Bunny was cheesed out. For crying out loud, Starbuck was basically doing the same freaking thing the entire series. ROACHES. In a BO5.

There was no excuse at all to not just play safer for 1 game.


that's why I feel it's important that top performers are rewarded with seeds into the next season


Even if they are performing like how Bunny perform in that series?

Wow 4 games such sample size where's swag_bro to tell us how big a slump Bunny is in. You ever play ladder? Ever go on a 3+ game losing streak? because Bunny just went on 3 game losing streak only the games were streamed and at the end his blizzcon hopes were gone
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24593 Posts
July 28 2015 17:01 GMT
#399
On July 29 2015 01:59 Yorkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2015 01:56 Heartland wrote:
On July 29 2015 01:55 Yorkie wrote:
On July 29 2015 01:53 Heartland wrote:
On July 29 2015 01:52 Yorkie wrote:
On July 29 2015 01:51 Heartland wrote:
Foreigners, like Koreans, have an entire year to amass points for the finals. It's not make or break with a single challenger game at all.

And he has spent all year amassing them, but he needed to win this one to have a shot.


...and he could have just as well made more points in any other tour during the year and been totally fine in bombing out here.

Yeah silly Bunny falling out in the semifinals to Polt and Lilbow in the two previous seasons. Should've just won that idiot. It was so easy! :D


My point is that Bunny is overall worse than people who have more points than him and that this is proven in his performance throughout the entire year, while you're implying that he's just got "one shot" overall and that the system is somehow unfair.

I've always thought one bo5 to determine whether you get to compete in any fashion besides weekly tournaments in sc2 for the next 3 months is moronic, but in this case I'm only saying that this series was Bunny's only shot at making Blizzcon starting from this moment. Yes if he won the two previous wcs seasons he'd be in a better spot, i think we all see that's obvious.


Very well : )
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
July 28 2015 17:01 GMT
#400
Nice bane snipe w/ broodlings
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