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On July 05 2015 16:54 Ej_ wrote:
omg Khaldor :O
Hope he casts 12 games at the same time so we don't miss anything.
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Quite a few cool matches 1st round already
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On July 05 2015 19:00 GumBa wrote:
Quite a few cool matches 1st round already
same time as god effOrt is playing in SSL though ;____;
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On July 05 2015 19:02 Inflicted wrote:
sOs replaced by Zycart
Quality just got upped in this tournament
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On July 05 2015 19:01 GumBa wrote:
Khaldor not on?
Guess he is busy casting heroes elsewhere XD
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On July 05 2015 19:02 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2015 19:00 GumBa wrote:
Quite a few cool matches 1st round already same time as god effOrt is playing in SSL though ;____;
Dual watching hype
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On July 05 2015 19:04 GumBa wrote: sKyHigh vs  Impact on esportsheaven
Can barely hear Tenshi talk T_T
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Cast not even going for 5 minutes yet, already a bad Impact pun.
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remember the 3 days when sKyHigh was top3 TvT in SC2?
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On July 05 2015 19:06 Elentos wrote:
Cast not even going for 5 minutes yet, already a bad Impact pun.
They are aiming skyhigh with their impactful puns
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On July 05 2015 19:07 Ej_ wrote:
remember the 3 days when sKyHigh was top3 TvT in SC2?
That ended quickly.
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On July 05 2015 19:07 Ej_ wrote:
remember the 3 days when sKyHigh was top3 TvT in SC2?
Yeah it was when MK was top1 GOAT TvP in hot6ix rofl
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On July 05 2015 19:08 Inflicted wrote: Dream 1-0  Check that was quick
yisssssss
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On July 05 2015 19:09 Lorning wrote:
That might've been a w/o
or 2rax
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On July 05 2015 19:09 Lorning wrote:
That might've been a w/o
Or a proxy. Or a failed all-in.
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On July 05 2015 19:09 Lorning wrote:
That might've been a w/o
Hmm, organiser usually uses 1-0 as a walkover but it's Bo1 so no way to tell ;/
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On July 05 2015 19:10 Lorning wrote:
Wait, is it really Bo1 ....
survival of the cheesiest
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On July 05 2015 19:09 Lorning wrote:
That might've been a w/o
A player who gets regular time in PL vs Check is a W/O even if they play it out.
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On July 05 2015 19:07 Ej_ wrote:
remember the 3 days when sKyHigh was top3 TvT in SC2?
Remember when sKyHigh didn't go mech in TvZ?
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On July 05 2015 19:10 Inflicted wrote:Hmm, organiser usually uses 1-0 as a walkover but it's Bo1 so no way to tell ;/
They usually write 99-0 for walkover on Challonge.
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Impact could have won if he had used corruption :/.
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I feel like Impact derped way to often in that game.
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On July 05 2015 19:30 Ej_ wrote:
Impact could have won if he had used corruption :/.
Would that have been enough against 3-3 vikings?
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On July 05 2015 19:32 RaFox17 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2015 19:30 Ej_ wrote:
Impact could have won if he had used corruption :/. Would that have been enough against 3-3 vikings?
I think so, but he must have engaged much earlier, before skyhigh got like 4 more vikings.
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On July 05 2015 19:33 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2015 19:32 RaFox17 wrote:On July 05 2015 19:30 Ej_ wrote:
Impact could have won if he had used corruption :/. Would that have been enough against 3-3 vikings? I think so, but he must have engaged much earlier, before skyhigh got like 4 more vikings.
Yeah I think Impact should have forced the issue earlier
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Meh Creator didn't show up
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On July 05 2015 19:40 Lorning wrote:
Meh Creator didn't show up
maybe he just got arrested at home
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Tenshi reminds me of an actor from The Raid.
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Inno rolling through his bracket so far
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Impact rofl, from skyhigh to reality :D
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On July 05 2015 19:45 HellHound wrote:
Impact rofl, from skyhigh to reality :D
this works as a figure of speech as well
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On July 05 2015 19:45 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2015 19:45 HellHound wrote:
Impact rofl, from skyhigh to reality :D this works as a figure of speech as well
Subtle puns 
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INnoVation vs CJ Bunny on esports tv coming up bo3 TvT!!
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On July 05 2015 19:52 Inflicted wrote:Maru W/O'd XY 1-0  Zest Code B PvT lmao
TangTang approved
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On July 05 2015 19:53 GumBa wrote:TangTang approved
hahahaahahaha fucking Zest is the biggest fraud of all time
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On July 05 2015 19:53 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2015 19:53 GumBa wrote:On July 05 2015 19:52 Inflicted wrote:Maru W/O'd XY 1-0 Zest Code B PvT lmao TangTang approved hahahaahahaha fucking Zest is the biggest fraud of all time
Your next sig can be I have better pvt AND I can beat him in tvp
PS I play zerg.
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On July 05 2015 19:53 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2015 19:53 GumBa wrote:On July 05 2015 19:52 Inflicted wrote:Maru W/O'd XY 1-0 Zest Code B PvT lmao TangTang approved hahahaahahaha fucking Zest is the biggest fraud of all time
His PvZ and PvP are pretty good. But yeah he got luck that the Terran race died when he rose to prominence  otherwise I doubt he would have had as much sucess.
Inc DLO now.
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On July 05 2015 19:55 HellHound wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2015 19:53 Ej_ wrote:On July 05 2015 19:53 GumBa wrote:On July 05 2015 19:52 Inflicted wrote:Maru W/O'd XY 1-0 Zest Code B PvT lmao TangTang approved hahahaahahaha fucking Zest is the biggest fraud of all time Your next sig can be I have better pvt AND I can beat him in tvp PS I play zerg.
i hate all of you
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On July 05 2015 19:55 dazed25 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2015 19:55 HellHound wrote:On July 05 2015 19:53 Ej_ wrote:On July 05 2015 19:53 GumBa wrote:On July 05 2015 19:52 Inflicted wrote:Maru W/O'd XY 1-0 Zest Code B PvT lmao TangTang approved hahahaahahaha fucking Zest is the biggest fraud of all time Your next sig can be I have better pvt AND I can beat him in tvp PS I play zerg. i hate all of you
I don't really mind you.
And I like Zest.
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On July 05 2015 19:56 Inflicted wrote: Cure 1-0 Stats according to the b.net chat on chinese stream
Wow winning without micro is pretty legit
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On July 05 2015 19:57 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2015 19:56 Inflicted wrote: Cure 1-0 Stats according to the b.net chat on chinese stream Wow winning without micro is pretty legit
he just doom drops marauders, all the micro you do is widow mine burrow
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looks like maru didn't attend. skyhigh walkover
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On July 05 2015 19:58 Inflicted wrote:
Looks like it's soO vs Ragnarok being casted
Which stream?
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Reality about to come to light.
Ok that one was a bit forced but go shine.
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They didnt get the INno game? 
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soO all ins like a protoss haha
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Impressive play by soO.
BTW, Bbyong lost to a foreign Terran as well, don't see anyone bashing him though..
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On July 05 2015 20:14 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
Impressive play by soO.
BTW, Bbyong lost to a foreign Terran as well, don't see anyone bashing him though..
I expect nothing less from CJ players
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Time for the XY comeback
8 SCVs vs 48 Drones
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On July 05 2015 20:14 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
Impressive play by soO.
BTW, Bbyong lost to a foreign Terran as well, don't see anyone bashing him though..
That's normal.
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soO = same level as me in ZvZ.
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On July 05 2015 20:19 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
soO = same level as me in ZvZ.
You are 7-0 zvz in proleague?
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Unless soO is a fucking wizard he should die to the ling bane attack
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On July 05 2015 20:20 HellHound wrote:You are 7-0 zvz in proleague?
I have zero losses in PL and I always forget to cancel the hatch.
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On July 05 2015 20:22 Inflicted wrote: INno 2-0 Bunny
woop
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On July 05 2015 20:31 digmouse wrote:soO vs  herO coming up on ESH and Chinese main stream.
herO bad opponent for soO
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soO invented roach bane and zvt was his weakest MU.
This is Wolf with better game knowledge :D
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Aside from the good bo for soO that was extremely sloppy from herO
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On July 05 2015 20:34 Inflicted wrote: MyuNgSiK 2-0 sKyHigh Dream 2-0 Cure
lol Cure applying for the position of mayor of Slumpville now that INno is no longer interested.
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Did Maru forfeit or somethings, because his games were really fast?
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On July 05 2015 20:42 Elentos wrote:lol Cure applying for the position of mayor of Slumpville now that INno is no longer interested.
I was about to say that he wasn't slumping and he just had one good run, but lol he got 2-0ed by dream.
Slump city.
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On July 05 2015 20:43 Ultramation wrote:
Did Maru forfeit or somethings, because his games were really fast?
Yeah, he forfeited/didnt show up
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On July 05 2015 20:43 Ultramation wrote:
Did Maru forfeit or somethings, because his games were really fast?
Yeah he didn't play.
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On July 05 2015 20:43 HellHound wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2015 20:42 Elentos wrote:On July 05 2015 20:34 Inflicted wrote: MyuNgSiK 2-0 sKyHigh Dream 2-0 Cure lol Cure applying for the position of mayor of Slumpville now that INno is no longer interested. I was about to say that he wasn't slumping and he just had one good run, but lol he got 2-0ed by dream. Slump city.
I might consider taking his form of application but you had to have been good before to slump.
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I just looked at the bracket and I died when I saw Zest lost to XY.
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On July 05 2015 20:47 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2015 20:43 HellHound wrote:On July 05 2015 20:42 Elentos wrote:On July 05 2015 20:34 Inflicted wrote: MyuNgSiK 2-0 sKyHigh Dream 2-0 Cure lol Cure applying for the position of mayor of Slumpville now that INno is no longer interested. I was about to say that he wasn't slumping and he just had one good run, but lol he got 2-0ed by dream. Slump city. I might consider taking his form of application but you had to have been good before to slump. + Show Spoiler +inb4 alucen-will goes on a rampage
Bad player can slump too protost inc.
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On July 05 2015 20:48 Elentos wrote:
I just looked at the bracket and I died when I saw Zest lost to XY.
TANGTANG SEAL OF APPROVAL
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On July 05 2015 20:45 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2015 20:43 Ultramation wrote:
Did Maru forfeit or somethings, because his games were really fast? Yeah he didn't play.
Well then i'm gonna cheer for innovation, Gogo the Machine :D
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BBoongBBoongBoys where we at
B4 2 - 1 Zest
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On July 05 2015 20:49 Inflicted wrote: B4 2-1 Zest LOL Reality 2-0 Shine Jim 2-0 Reality
this is way too funny
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Hey and now Zest lost to BBoongBBoong. Is he playing drunk or something?
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*sigh* In a cup attended by Stats and Zest, SpeeD and Sleep are the most successful KT players.
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herO played that like Zest minus the brain.
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Why couldnt soO play like that vs Dear TT
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On July 05 2015 20:54 GumBa wrote:
Why couldnt soO play like that vs Dear TT
because he had to play standard maps vs Dear too h3h3
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On July 05 2015 20:54 GumBa wrote:
Why couldnt soO play like that vs Dear TT
Trauma
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On July 05 2015 20:55 HellHound wrote:
BB beat zest rofl
ZEST SUCH A GOOD PLAYER GOAT GOAT GOAT
#FREESACKOFWETMICE
#DOWNWITHOLLI
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On July 05 2015 20:54 GumBa wrote:
Why couldnt soO play like that vs Dear TT
The Stupid Gun hit everyone in the Nexon Arena when Myungsik played against Journey, thus making it impossible for soO to play this well.
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On July 05 2015 20:55 HellHound wrote:
BB beat zest rofl
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I don't wanna live on this planet anymore.
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On July 05 2015 20:56 Elentos wrote:The Stupid Gun hit everyone in the Nexon Arena when Myungsik played against Journey, thus making it impossible for soO to play this well.
But Dear is stupid from the start so it affected him less?
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On July 05 2015 20:57 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
I don't wanna live on this planet anymore.
Mars terraforming is about 20 years off tho
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On July 05 2015 20:58 HellHound wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2015 20:56 Elentos wrote:On July 05 2015 20:54 GumBa wrote:
Why couldnt soO play like that vs Dear TT The Stupid Gun hit everyone in the Nexon Arena when Myungsik played against Journey, thus making it impossible for soO to play this well. But Dear is stupid from the start so it affected him less?
He outstupided the stupidness with sheer stupidity
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On July 05 2015 20:58 HellHound wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2015 20:57 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
I don't wanna live on this planet anymore. Mars terraforming is about 20 years off tho
can always stay on Terraform
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On July 05 2015 20:58 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2015 20:58 HellHound wrote:On July 05 2015 20:56 Elentos wrote:On July 05 2015 20:54 GumBa wrote:
Why couldnt soO play like that vs Dear TT The Stupid Gun hit everyone in the Nexon Arena when Myungsik played against Journey, thus making it impossible for soO to play this well. But Dear is stupid from the start so it affected him less? He outstupided the stupidness with sheer stupidity
That sounds like a very dear thing to do.
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On July 05 2015 21:00 Inflicted wrote: Solar 2-1 Bbyong
Solar being soO's wingman killing off the mechers.
vs skyhigh next
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Jim winning against terrans? This is a strange day.
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On July 05 2015 21:03 argonautdice wrote:
Jim winning against terrans? This is a strange day.
He won a map vs maru 4 months ago probably has second best pvt outside of kespa
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On July 05 2015 21:09 Inflicted wrote: MyuNgSiK 2-1 Horror
noooooooo
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Why can't they get INno games T_T
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On July 05 2015 21:09 Ej_ wrote:noooooooo
I take it you don't like myun?
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On July 05 2015 21:13 HellHound wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2015 21:09 Ej_ wrote:On July 05 2015 21:09 Inflicted wrote: MyuNgSiK 2-1 Horror noooooooo I take it you don't like myun?
I like horror
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oh god damnit. B4 farted all over zest.
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On July 05 2015 21:13 Makro wrote:
Zest lost to who ?
XY and B4.
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On July 05 2015 21:34 Lorning wrote:
Gooo MyuNgSiK
Good job myun
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On July 05 2015 21:37 dazed25 wrote:
ultras... into win?
soO likes ultras
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On July 05 2015 21:39 Inflicted wrote: Classic 2-0 Sorry
SKT players must really hate classic.
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On July 05 2015 21:43 royalroadweed wrote:SKT players must really hate classic.
he's cashing in on all those lovely team kills
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On July 05 2015 21:43 royalroadweed wrote:SKT players must really hate classic.
or like him.
Inno dream teamkill btw
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On July 05 2015 21:50 Inflicted wrote:
scboy gave up and started streaming HSC lol
They are the side stream anyway.
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Lol that build is such bs :D
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On July 05 2015 22:00 Inflicted wrote: Rogue W/O Symbol Rogue W/O Cure
That's weird, it's like JAGW coach says to Symbol and Cure to forfeit to let Rogue play.
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On July 05 2015 22:03 Aeromi wrote:That's weird, it's like JAGW coach says to Symbol and Cure to forfeit to let Rogue play.
I wouldn't consider that unlikely on a Kespa team.
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On July 05 2015 22:05 Inflicted wrote: Dream 2-1 INno
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On July 05 2015 22:05 Inflicted wrote: Dream 2-1 INno soO vs Dream being casted I believe
the world is about to crash in this battle of kongs
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Dream's aligulac TvT rating is gonna jump up by a hundred points by the time he's done with this cup.
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On July 05 2015 22:09 Elentos wrote:
Dream's aligulac TvT rating is gonna jump up by a hundred points by the time he's done with this cup.
Told you his TvT was good.
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On July 05 2015 22:16 royalroadweed wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2015 22:09 Elentos wrote:
Dream's aligulac TvT rating is gonna jump up by a hundred points by the time he's done with this cup. Told you his TvT was good.
It improved because he worked on it. His TvT used to be yolo doom drop or die trying. And exclusively that. Below 50% winrate, all time and in 2015, is nothing he can brag about.
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Solar y u do dis?
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On July 05 2015 22:29 Shellshock wrote:
did Dream fix his tvt?
Didn't get streamed
All we know is soO is a god in ZvZ, ZvP and now ZvT
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On July 05 2015 22:29 Shellshock wrote:
did Dream fix his tvt?
Didn't see any of his games but it looks like it.
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I'm glad soO is playing well
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soO is a fucking moster when nobody is watching
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that mine hit saved dreams life just now.
Excellent targetting.
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soO was just waiting for the curse to pass onto Dream.
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godly play from soo
flawless, really
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Cute thor micro doesnt mean shit to soO
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On July 05 2015 22:49 Ej_ wrote:
imagine if SKT bought Life, not KT ;____;
he would never play in proleague
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On July 05 2015 22:49 dazed25 wrote:
soO was just waiting for the curse to pass onto Dream.
The mantle of kong has been passed.
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On July 05 2015 22:50 HellHound wrote:
Cute thor micro doesnt mean shit to soO
that was what i noticed. every time dream picked up a thor soO immediately killed the medivac.
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On July 05 2015 22:51 Shellshock wrote:he would never play in proleague
hahahaha
So he would have the time to get double title instead.
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He can go through INno, Dream and soO.
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Dream didn't play his best imo.
Also of course soO focuses on the thors in medivacs, he has to deal with this shit every day in practice.
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On July 05 2015 22:53 Elentos wrote:
Dream didn't play his best imo.
Also of course soO focuses on the thors in medivacs, he has to deal with this shit every day in practice.
Well SKT made him strong so they know how to unmake him too.
Tho I don't think there are a lot of zergs that can handle zvt engagements better than soO atm.
He only got a nasty hit from mines twice and one of the times was due to excellent targetting from dream (while he was spliting elsewhere O.O)
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On July 05 2015 22:56 HellHound wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2015 22:53 Elentos wrote:
Dream didn't play his best imo.
Also of course soO focuses on the thors in medivacs, he has to deal with this shit every day in practice. Well SKT made him strong so they know how to unmake him too. Tho I don't think there are a lot of zergs that can handle zvt engagements better than soO atm. He only got a nasty hit from mines twice and one of the times was due to excellent targetting from dream (while he was spliting elsewhere O.O)
This doesn't say much anyway because it's all online. If they played each other in GSL on stage it probably looks completely different.
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On July 05 2015 22:56 HellHound wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2015 22:53 Elentos wrote:
Dream didn't play his best imo.
Also of course soO focuses on the thors in medivacs, he has to deal with this shit every day in practice. Well SKT made him strong so they know how to unmake him too. Tho I don't think there are a lot of zergs that can handle zvt engagements better than soO atm. He only got a nasty hit from mines twice and one of the times was due to excellent targetting from dream (while he was spliting elsewhere O.O)
i'm super jealous of the mechanics of SKT players in both ZvT and TvZ. thank god they have weaknesses in other matchups.
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On July 05 2015 23:00 dazed25 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2015 22:56 HellHound wrote:On July 05 2015 22:53 Elentos wrote:
Dream didn't play his best imo.
Also of course soO focuses on the thors in medivacs, he has to deal with this shit every day in practice. Well SKT made him strong so they know how to unmake him too. Tho I don't think there are a lot of zergs that can handle zvt engagements better than soO atm. He only got a nasty hit from mines twice and one of the times was due to excellent targetting from dream (while he was spliting elsewhere O.O) i'm super jealous of the mechanics of SKT players in both ZvT and TvZ. thank god they have weaknesses in other matchups.
Hmm
Inno dream soO Dark Classic.
All are stong vs Z :D
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On July 05 2015 23:01 Inflicted wrote: Dear 2-0 Stats
Stats' PvP peaked when he beat Zest in S2SL, all downhill from there
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On July 05 2015 23:02 Shellshock wrote:
wow just saw Zest's results today. wtf
B4's farts overpowered the Zest of life.
On July 05 2015 23:03 Elentos wrote:Stats' PvP peaked when he beat Zest in S2SL, all downhill from there
he's been so bad since T_T
even the first 2 games he won against classic. i still have nightmares about that oracle escaping when he wasted shots on the stargate instead of the pylon. could have been 3-0.
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On July 05 2015 23:03 Elentos wrote:Stats' PvP peaked when he beat Zest in S2SL, all downhill from there
He got Classic'd
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On July 05 2015 23:03 dazed25 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2015 23:02 Shellshock wrote:
wow just saw Zest's results today. wtf B4's farts overpowered the Zest of life.
Losing to XY is far more embarrassing than losing to B4.
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On July 05 2015 23:04 royalroadweed wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2015 23:03 dazed25 wrote:On July 05 2015 23:02 Shellshock wrote:
wow just saw Zest's results today. wtf B4's farts overpowered the Zest of life. Losing to XY is far more embarrassing than losing to B4.
1-0 in PvT vs 2-1 in a matchup where he is typically a god.. idk
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On July 05 2015 23:05 dazed25 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2015 23:04 royalroadweed wrote:On July 05 2015 23:03 dazed25 wrote:On July 05 2015 23:02 Shellshock wrote:
wow just saw Zest's results today. wtf B4's farts overpowered the Zest of life. Losing to XY is far more embarrassing than losing to B4. 1-0 in PvT vs 2-1 in a matchup where he is typically a god.. idk
Foreign terran.
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On July 05 2015 23:06 royalroadweed wrote:
Seems like since his match with Dream every terran has been throwing hellions at herO.
Except Flash.
I imagine herO going "Seriously? With the hellions again? Stahp!"
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On July 05 2015 23:07 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2015 23:06 royalroadweed wrote:
Seems like since his match with Dream every terran has been throwing hellions at herO. Except Flash. I imagine herO going "Seriously? With the hellions again? Stahp!"
It would have killed him again if Bunny wasn't so indecisive.
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If herO get's knocked out Muyn will be the only one to have not beaten soO in a gsl final :D
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On July 05 2015 23:25 HellHound wrote:
If herO get's knocked out Muyn will be the only one to have not beaten soO in a gsl final :D
Dream?
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Classic-herO next
Cactus/Echo/Expedition
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On July 05 2015 23:26 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2015 23:25 HellHound wrote:
If herO get's knocked out Muyn will be the only one to have not beaten soO in a gsl final :D Dream?
Wait till GSL season 3 finals pls
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On July 05 2015 23:34 HellHound wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2015 23:26 Elentos wrote:On July 05 2015 23:25 HellHound wrote:
If herO get's knocked out Muyn will be the only one to have not beaten soO in a gsl final :D Dream? Wait till GSL season 3 finals pls
He's gonna give up GSL Ro16 for SSL finals again.
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On July 05 2015 23:35 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2015 23:34 HellHound wrote:On July 05 2015 23:26 Elentos wrote:On July 05 2015 23:25 HellHound wrote:
If herO get's knocked out Muyn will be the only one to have not beaten soO in a gsl final :D Dream? Wait till GSL season 3 finals pls He's gonna give up GSL Ro16 for SSL finals again.
He got an easy group so he made it to ro8 anyways.
Also soO saved him from becoming a kong by knocking him out in the ro4 ssl in 2016 ssl season 1
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Did jjakji not play? Did anyone say why?
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Classic innovation is a cool MU
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On July 06 2015 00:12 GumBa wrote:
LETS GO LEE SHIN HYUNG
I just realised inno life have almost the same name.
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Is it that day soO wins a championship ?
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On July 06 2015 00:12 DJHelium wrote:
Did jjakji not play? Did anyone say why?
There was more than a dozen no-shows and you honestly hope to get a statement specifically about jjakji?
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On July 06 2015 00:15 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Is it that day soO wins a championship ?
He does need a second gold to go along with his MLG vs Proleague one
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He will win GSL this year so whatever.
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On July 06 2015 00:17 HellHound wrote:
He will win GSL this year so whatever.
soO wouldn't even win a Kong Arena
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On July 06 2015 00:18 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 00:17 HellHound wrote:
He will win GSL this year so whatever.
soO wouldn't even win a Kong Arena
The greatest of Kongs naturally would only be satisfied with 2nd place.
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Bogus should look over his shoulder. Classic might be watching his screen.
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On July 06 2015 00:20 HellHound wrote:
People copying maru O.O
5rax is the new standard it seems
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On July 06 2015 00:18 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 00:17 HellHound wrote:
He will win GSL this year so whatever.
soO wouldn't even win a Kong Arena
Who would want to win that in the first place?!?
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On July 06 2015 00:21 HellHound wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 00:18 Ej_ wrote:On July 06 2015 00:17 HellHound wrote:
He will win GSL this year so whatever.
soO wouldn't even win a Kong Arena Who would want to win that in the first place?!?
Everyone. Only Kongs allowed in, after all.
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On July 06 2015 00:24 Inflicted wrote:
INno building ghosts?? But Wolf says doesn't play lategame
I mean, he pulled SCVs for like a year in TvP
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On July 06 2015 00:26 Lorning wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 00:24 Inflicted wrote:
INno building ghosts?? But Wolf says doesn't play lategame I mean, he pulled SCVs for like a year in TvP
Won his GSL with only macro TvP in code S
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On July 06 2015 00:26 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 00:26 Lorning wrote:On July 06 2015 00:24 Inflicted wrote:
INno building ghosts?? But Wolf says doesn't play lategame I mean, he pulled SCVs for like a year in TvP Won his GSL with only macro TvP in code S
Stop it GumBa, Wolf said he doesn't do it so that's how it was.
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INno might aswell have GG'd. After losing such a fight the only way for a comeback is the Protoss giving you way too much time. Warp-in good unit in lategame.
E: Nukes don't do enough to kill an assimilator? David Kim pls
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What? Stream lagged...
Did I just watched a nuke?
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On July 06 2015 00:28 Elentos wrote:
INno might aswell have GG'd. After losing such a fight the only way for a comeback is the Protoss giving you way too much time. Warp-in good unit in lategame.
E: Nukes don't do enough to kill an assimilator? David Kim pls
Wow Classic almost threw it...
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Nooooooooooooooooooo damn you lag that game was awesome
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loool dont see that too often although I guess every now and then casters get booted
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Laggin like fuck how the fuck do you fucking turn quality down fuck sake.
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Classic is so good right now
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Classic won. Storm + warp-in is so good in late game, INno almost had it tho :S
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On July 06 2015 00:33 GumBa wrote:
Laggin like fuck how the fuck do you fucking turn quality down fuck sake.
If you find out pls tell us
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On July 06 2015 00:34 Silvana wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 00:33 GumBa wrote:
Laggin like fuck how the fuck do you fucking turn quality down fuck sake. If you find out pls tell us
The option left of the gear
I think main stream died?
Game 2: http://www.douyutv.com/3484
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Nice to see Inno give classic a fight in lategame though. So happy.
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there is text all over the stream wtf I did
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On July 06 2015 00:37 GumBa wrote:
Nice to see Inno give classic a fight in lategame though. So happy.
If he micro cloaks his ghost when he was losing so many of them to zealots without observers around (I believe) I think he has a good chance. At some point it looked really freaking good for him considering he was down ~50 supply with no bank after the first big engage.
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haha I was wondering if there was such a guide, thanks
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Inno yoloing shit in small tournamets as always.
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On July 06 2015 00:42 GumBa wrote:
Yes english steam
you can watch inno die in english dub
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I have to say I agree with others here, it felt refreshing to see a Terran going into lategame with ghosts and actually doing quite OK against a big gun Protoss like Classic. It seems INnoVation is finding some form again, and given he has a walkover to S2SL group stage he could make a return to relevance this season.
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This might be an scv pull
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What the shit INno is playing pretty good
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On July 06 2015 00:46 GumBa wrote:
This might be an scv pull
It is, 200/200 scv pull. At 15 minutes. Dat macro.
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On July 06 2015 00:46 [PkF] Wire wrote:
What the shit INno is playing pretty good
Has been since iem qualifier
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On July 06 2015 00:47 Elentos wrote:It is, 200/200 scv pull. At 15 minutes. Dat macro.
While defending blink pressure.
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By the way GumBa I need your character code so that we can play some time in Ej_ tourney
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Amazing amazing play by INno.
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On July 06 2015 00:48 [PkF] Wire wrote:By the way GumBa I need your character code so that we can play some time in Ej_ tourney
I can play tomorrow btw
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On July 06 2015 00:49 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 00:48 [PkF] Wire wrote:By the way GumBa I need your character code so that we can play some time in Ej_ tourney I can play tomorrow btw
Should be able in the evening too
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Cactus is the map INno won the series against Classic on in the MSI qualifier.
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That was a smackdown in game 2 there, don't let Innovation get into his flow or it'll be difficult for you.
Enjoying the eSportsHeaven broadcast, plus the very high level of play shown all day. Totally not biased because I know one of the guys ofc
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On July 06 2015 00:51 Wombat_NI wrote:That was a smackdown in game 2 there, don't let Innovation get into his flow or it'll be difficult for you. Enjoying the eSportsHeaven broadcast, plus the very high level of play shown all day. Totally not biased because I know one of the guys ofc
Classic put on heavy blink pressure, he tried his best to stop INno from getting into the flow. That was incredibly impressive by INno.
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On July 06 2015 00:52 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 00:51 Wombat_NI wrote:That was a smackdown in game 2 there, don't let Innovation get into his flow or it'll be difficult for you. Enjoying the eSportsHeaven broadcast, plus the very high level of play shown all day. Totally not biased because I know one of the guys ofc Classic put on heavy blink pressure, he tried his best to stop INno from getting into the flow. That was incredibly impressive by INno.
Terran bias :D
It's the pressure that killed Classic (and innos great hold), if he all ined inno would have died without being able to do anything.
Nice prediction skills from inno.
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On July 06 2015 00:52 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 00:51 Wombat_NI wrote:That was a smackdown in game 2 there, don't let Innovation get into his flow or it'll be difficult for you. Enjoying the eSportsHeaven broadcast, plus the very high level of play shown all day. Totally not biased because I know one of the guys ofc Classic put on heavy blink pressure, he tried his best to stop INno from getting into the flow. That was incredibly impressive by INno.
Yeah he was JUST safe enough to benefit from that 3rd CC and once the macro machine gets going...
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I am so happy boys even if inno loses
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How does Classic always get the wrong spot when he does this haha
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On July 06 2015 00:55 HellHound wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 00:52 Elentos wrote:On July 06 2015 00:51 Wombat_NI wrote:That was a smackdown in game 2 there, don't let Innovation get into his flow or it'll be difficult for you. Enjoying the eSportsHeaven broadcast, plus the very high level of play shown all day. Totally not biased because I know one of the guys ofc Classic put on heavy blink pressure, he tried his best to stop INno from getting into the flow. That was incredibly impressive by INno. Terran bias :D It's the pressure that killed Classic (and innos great hold), if he all ined inno would have died without being able to do anything. Nice prediction skills from inno.
If you get pressured like this more often than not your macro slips and you won't be maxed out at 15:30.
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On July 06 2015 00:57 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 00:55 HellHound wrote:On July 06 2015 00:52 Elentos wrote:On July 06 2015 00:51 Wombat_NI wrote:That was a smackdown in game 2 there, don't let Innovation get into his flow or it'll be difficult for you. Enjoying the eSportsHeaven broadcast, plus the very high level of play shown all day. Totally not biased because I know one of the guys ofc Classic put on heavy blink pressure, he tried his best to stop INno from getting into the flow. That was incredibly impressive by INno. Terran bias :D It's the pressure that killed Classic (and innos great hold), if he all ined inno would have died without being able to do anything. Nice prediction skills from inno. If you get pressured like this more often than not your macro slips and you won't be maxed out at 15:30.
It's like inno has amazing mechanics or something.
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On July 06 2015 00:59 HellHound wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 00:57 Elentos wrote:On July 06 2015 00:55 HellHound wrote:On July 06 2015 00:52 Elentos wrote:On July 06 2015 00:51 Wombat_NI wrote:That was a smackdown in game 2 there, don't let Innovation get into his flow or it'll be difficult for you. Enjoying the eSportsHeaven broadcast, plus the very high level of play shown all day. Totally not biased because I know one of the guys ofc Classic put on heavy blink pressure, he tried his best to stop INno from getting into the flow. That was incredibly impressive by INno. Terran bias :D It's the pressure that killed Classic (and innos great hold), if he all ined inno would have died without being able to do anything. Nice prediction skills from inno. If you get pressured like this more often than not your macro slips and you won't be maxed out at 15:30. It's like inno has amazing mechanics or something.
I complimented him for it <.<
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On July 06 2015 01:00 GumBa wrote:
SKT is just so on fire.
Such a poor year so far for them
There was a korean final without an SKT player in it.
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On July 06 2015 01:00 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 00:59 HellHound wrote:On July 06 2015 00:57 Elentos wrote:On July 06 2015 00:55 HellHound wrote:On July 06 2015 00:52 Elentos wrote:On July 06 2015 00:51 Wombat_NI wrote:That was a smackdown in game 2 there, don't let Innovation get into his flow or it'll be difficult for you. Enjoying the eSportsHeaven broadcast, plus the very high level of play shown all day. Totally not biased because I know one of the guys ofc Classic put on heavy blink pressure, he tried his best to stop INno from getting into the flow. That was incredibly impressive by INno. Terran bias :D It's the pressure that killed Classic (and innos great hold), if he all ined inno would have died without being able to do anything. Nice prediction skills from inno. If you get pressured like this more often than not your macro slips and you won't be maxed out at 15:30. It's like inno has amazing mechanics or something. I complimented him for it <.<
I think we are really misunderstanding each other haha :D
I agreed with you
Well you are a KT fan so it's to be expected.
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On July 06 2015 01:02 Elentos wrote:
Game 2 not going so hot.
It's game 3
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On July 06 2015 01:00 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 00:59 HellHound wrote:On July 06 2015 00:57 Elentos wrote:On July 06 2015 00:55 HellHound wrote:On July 06 2015 00:52 Elentos wrote:On July 06 2015 00:51 Wombat_NI wrote:That was a smackdown in game 2 there, don't let Innovation get into his flow or it'll be difficult for you. Enjoying the eSportsHeaven broadcast, plus the very high level of play shown all day. Totally not biased because I know one of the guys ofc Classic put on heavy blink pressure, he tried his best to stop INno from getting into the flow. That was incredibly impressive by INno. Terran bias :D It's the pressure that killed Classic (and innos great hold), if he all ined inno would have died without being able to do anything. Nice prediction skills from inno. If you get pressured like this more often than not your macro slips and you won't be maxed out at 15:30. It's like inno has amazing mechanics or something. I complimented him for it <.<
Huge balls as well to add his production quite near the ledges where stalkers would have more potshots and floating that CC down. Really good moves where he bought just enough time to let his monstrous mechanics get flowing
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On July 06 2015 01:02 HellHound wrote:It's game 3
Is what I meant.
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On July 06 2015 01:03 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 01:02 HellHound wrote:On July 06 2015 01:02 Elentos wrote:
Game 2 not going so hot. It's game 3 Is what I meant.
KT slang so hard to understand
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On July 06 2015 01:03 Inflicted wrote:
3 SKT players left, Classics on a mission
Hmm I want Classic to murder Dream but Dream soO would be a funny final.
So heart rending.
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INno lost but he still played a crazy solid series
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On July 06 2015 01:05 [PkF] Wire wrote:
INno lost but he still played a crazy solid series
So happy :')
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Classic just 10x the player. Inno is really a shell of his former self
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Can INno GuMiho his way to a victory??
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Actually can INno flip it with a basetrade ?
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Inno was ready for the basetrade lol
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On July 06 2015 01:06 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Actually can INno flip it with a basetrade ?
Not looking good.
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Oh, soO is in finals.
The literal God, Tasteless.
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You can be proud, INno is playing great again.
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SKT dominating so hard xD
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In other news Mlord is trading blows with Rain.
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On July 06 2015 01:11 GumBa wrote:
SKT dominating so hard xD
Everything as it should be.
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Classic Dear sooooo close
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The level of play is so incredible compared to Hsc lol
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Dear up 1-0. Not such good news for the tournament since Dream is (on paper) a huge favorite vs him.
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Still better than a teamkill imo. Decent showing for Samsung, Dear going far and Solar getting past some good T is good news.
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On July 06 2015 01:36 sAsImre wrote:
Still better than a teamkill imo. Decent showing for Samsung, Dear going far and Solar getting past some good T is good news.
Yeah full SKT1 teamkill for the next two matches would be quite lame.
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On July 06 2015 01:37 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 01:36 sAsImre wrote:
Still better than a teamkill imo. Decent showing for Samsung, Dear going far and Solar getting past some good T is good news. Yeah full SKT1 teamkill for the next two matches would be quite lame.
I really hope soO get this. If he gets back to his old form it'd be awesome, he takes better fights than every other Z by such a margin when he's on top of his game.
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On July 06 2015 01:37 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 01:36 sAsImre wrote:
Still better than a teamkill imo. Decent showing for Samsung, Dear going far and Solar getting past some good T is good news. Yeah full SKT1 teamkill for the next two matches would be quite lame.
I just don't want a soO Dear final whatever happens :D
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Classic punishing greed with class.
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On July 06 2015 01:40 HellHound wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 01:37 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 06 2015 01:36 sAsImre wrote:
Still better than a teamkill imo. Decent showing for Samsung, Dear going far and Solar getting past some good T is good news. Yeah full SKT1 teamkill for the next two matches would be quite lame. I just don't want a soO Dear final whatever happens :D
Oh yeah please no. We saw what that match is bound to yield now in S2SL, and that was just shitty.
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It will be a skt final though. No way Dear goes through ChinGod and dreamjwa
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On July 06 2015 01:39 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 01:37 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 06 2015 01:36 sAsImre wrote:
Still better than a teamkill imo. Decent showing for Samsung, Dear going far and Solar getting past some good T is good news. Yeah full SKT1 teamkill for the next two matches would be quite lame. I really hope soO get this. If he gets back to his old form it'd be awesome, he takes better fights than every other Z by such a margin when he's on top of his game.
Yeah me too. Old form soO was perfect macro, awesome engagements, and incredible blood thirst.
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On July 06 2015 01:42 GumBa wrote:
It will be a skt final though. No way Dear goes through ChinGod and dreamjwa
He has about a 0,1% chance anyways I want to see classic dream rematch too :D
Classic actually has really intellegent army movement which is a treat to watch.
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On July 06 2015 01:44 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 01:39 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 01:37 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 06 2015 01:36 sAsImre wrote:
Still better than a teamkill imo. Decent showing for Samsung, Dear going far and Solar getting past some good T is good news. Yeah full SKT1 teamkill for the next two matches would be quite lame. I really hope soO get this. If he gets back to his old form it'd be awesome, he takes better fights than every other Z by such a margin when he's on top of his game. Yeah me too. Old form soO was perfect macro, awesome engagements, and incredible blood thirst.
yeah not as flashy as Life but way more solid and effective.
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hahaha
yawn no crazy proxies in the middle.
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On July 06 2015 01:45 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 01:44 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 06 2015 01:39 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 01:37 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 06 2015 01:36 sAsImre wrote:
Still better than a teamkill imo. Decent showing for Samsung, Dear going far and Solar getting past some good T is good news. Yeah full SKT1 teamkill for the next two matches would be quite lame. I really hope soO get this. If he gets back to his old form it'd be awesome, he takes better fights than every other Z by such a margin when he's on top of his game. Yeah me too. Old form soO was perfect macro, awesome engagements, and incredible blood thirst. yeah not as flashy as Life but way more solid and effective.
I never got why anyone never found soO flashy :D
Have they not seen soO play zvz?
His ling/bane micro is the best there is without contest.
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On July 06 2015 01:47 HellHound wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 01:45 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 01:44 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 06 2015 01:39 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 01:37 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 06 2015 01:36 sAsImre wrote:
Still better than a teamkill imo. Decent showing for Samsung, Dear going far and Solar getting past some good T is good news. Yeah full SKT1 teamkill for the next two matches would be quite lame. I really hope soO get this. If he gets back to his old form it'd be awesome, he takes better fights than every other Z by such a margin when he's on top of his game. Yeah me too. Old form soO was perfect macro, awesome engagements, and incredible blood thirst. yeah not as flashy as Life but way more solid and effective. I never got why anyone never found soO flashy :D Have they not seen soO play zvz? His ling/bane micro is the best there is without contest.
it's a bit like TaeJa, everything is really good and he's a well rounded players but he doesn't make too many stellar moves, mostly because he never needs too. And being consistently good doesn't make ppl go wow compared to winning a game with some crazy shit. And he's the best ZvZer, not only for ling/bane micro, and by far
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On July 06 2015 01:49 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 01:47 HellHound wrote:On July 06 2015 01:45 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 01:44 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 06 2015 01:39 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 01:37 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 06 2015 01:36 sAsImre wrote:
Still better than a teamkill imo. Decent showing for Samsung, Dear going far and Solar getting past some good T is good news. Yeah full SKT1 teamkill for the next two matches would be quite lame. I really hope soO get this. If he gets back to his old form it'd be awesome, he takes better fights than every other Z by such a margin when he's on top of his game. Yeah me too. Old form soO was perfect macro, awesome engagements, and incredible blood thirst. yeah not as flashy as Life but way more solid and effective. I never got why anyone never found soO flashy :D Have they not seen soO play zvz? His ling/bane micro is the best there is without contest. it's a bit like TaeJa, everything is really good and he's a well rounded players but he doesn't make too many stellar moves, mostly because he never needs too. And being consistently good doesn't make ppl go wow compared to winning a game with some crazy shit. And he's the best ZvZer, not only for ling/bane micro, and by far
His CatZ builds on Merry Go Round and Overgrowth made a lot more people fond of him. I still think he's really not popular enough for a player that has shown such brilliance.
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On July 06 2015 01:51 [PkF] Wire wrote:
THE 2 DTS
barely achieve anything.
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On July 06 2015 01:49 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 01:47 HellHound wrote:On July 06 2015 01:45 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 01:44 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 06 2015 01:39 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 01:37 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 06 2015 01:36 sAsImre wrote:
Still better than a teamkill imo. Decent showing for Samsung, Dear going far and Solar getting past some good T is good news. Yeah full SKT1 teamkill for the next two matches would be quite lame. I really hope soO get this. If he gets back to his old form it'd be awesome, he takes better fights than every other Z by such a margin when he's on top of his game. Yeah me too. Old form soO was perfect macro, awesome engagements, and incredible blood thirst. yeah not as flashy as Life but way more solid and effective. I never got why anyone never found soO flashy :D Have they not seen soO play zvz? His ling/bane micro is the best there is without contest. it's a bit like TaeJa, everything is really good and he's a well rounded players but he doesn't make too many stellar moves, mostly because he never needs too. And being consistently good doesn't make ppl go wow compared to winning a game with some crazy shit. And he's the best ZvZer, not only for ling/bane micro, and by far Yeah that's for sure.
Maybe it's just me but I always loved watching TaeJa and soO, it was mesmerizing to see how they made everything look so natural and easy.
I mentioned his ling bane micro specificly cause it looks like it's from 2017
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On July 06 2015 01:51 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 01:49 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 01:47 HellHound wrote:On July 06 2015 01:45 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 01:44 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 06 2015 01:39 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 01:37 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 06 2015 01:36 sAsImre wrote:
Still better than a teamkill imo. Decent showing for Samsung, Dear going far and Solar getting past some good T is good news. Yeah full SKT1 teamkill for the next two matches would be quite lame. I really hope soO get this. If he gets back to his old form it'd be awesome, he takes better fights than every other Z by such a margin when he's on top of his game. Yeah me too. Old form soO was perfect macro, awesome engagements, and incredible blood thirst. yeah not as flashy as Life but way more solid and effective. I never got why anyone never found soO flashy :D Have they not seen soO play zvz? His ling/bane micro is the best there is without contest. it's a bit like TaeJa, everything is really good and he's a well rounded players but he doesn't make too many stellar moves, mostly because he never needs too. And being consistently good doesn't make ppl go wow compared to winning a game with some crazy shit. And he's the best ZvZer, not only for ling/bane micro, and by far His CatZ builds on Merry Go Round and Overgrowth made a lot more people fond of him. I still think he's really not popular enough for a player that has shown such brilliance.
Tbh his fight vs Flash on deadwing in GSL s3 ro16 was the best thing I saw out of him, mastermind plan and perfect execution designed to destroy his opponent strategy.
On July 06 2015 01:52 HellHound wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 01:49 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 01:47 HellHound wrote:On July 06 2015 01:45 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 01:44 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 06 2015 01:39 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 01:37 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 06 2015 01:36 sAsImre wrote:
Still better than a teamkill imo. Decent showing for Samsung, Dear going far and Solar getting past some good T is good news. Yeah full SKT1 teamkill for the next two matches would be quite lame. I really hope soO get this. If he gets back to his old form it'd be awesome, he takes better fights than every other Z by such a margin when he's on top of his game. Yeah me too. Old form soO was perfect macro, awesome engagements, and incredible blood thirst. yeah not as flashy as Life but way more solid and effective. I never got why anyone never found soO flashy :D Have they not seen soO play zvz? His ling/bane micro is the best there is without contest. it's a bit like TaeJa, everything is really good and he's a well rounded players but he doesn't make too many stellar moves, mostly because he never needs too. And being consistently good doesn't make ppl go wow compared to winning a game with some crazy shit. And he's the best ZvZer, not only for ling/bane micro, and by far Yeah that's for sure. Maybe it's just me but I always loved watching TaeJa and soO, it was mesmerizing to see how they made everything look so natural and easy. I mentioned his ling bane micro specificly cause it looks like it's from 2017
I'd just say that you got some excellent taste :p
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On July 06 2015 01:49 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 01:47 HellHound wrote:On July 06 2015 01:45 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 01:44 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 06 2015 01:39 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 01:37 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 06 2015 01:36 sAsImre wrote:
Still better than a teamkill imo. Decent showing for Samsung, Dear going far and Solar getting past some good T is good news. Yeah full SKT1 teamkill for the next two matches would be quite lame. I really hope soO get this. If he gets back to his old form it'd be awesome, he takes better fights than every other Z by such a margin when he's on top of his game. Yeah me too. Old form soO was perfect macro, awesome engagements, and incredible blood thirst. yeah not as flashy as Life but way more solid and effective. I never got why anyone never found soO flashy :D Have they not seen soO play zvz? His ling/bane micro is the best there is without contest. it's a bit like TaeJa, everything is really good and he's a well rounded players but he doesn't make too many stellar moves, mostly because he never needs too. And being consistently good doesn't make ppl go wow compared to winning a game with some crazy shit. And he's the best ZvZer, not only for ling/bane micro, and by far
it's mostly because he also makes many abysmal decisions that often make him look a dweeb with good mechanics
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On July 06 2015 01:52 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 01:51 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 06 2015 01:49 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 01:47 HellHound wrote:On July 06 2015 01:45 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 01:44 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 06 2015 01:39 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 01:37 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 06 2015 01:36 sAsImre wrote:
Still better than a teamkill imo. Decent showing for Samsung, Dear going far and Solar getting past some good T is good news. Yeah full SKT1 teamkill for the next two matches would be quite lame. I really hope soO get this. If he gets back to his old form it'd be awesome, he takes better fights than every other Z by such a margin when he's on top of his game. Yeah me too. Old form soO was perfect macro, awesome engagements, and incredible blood thirst. yeah not as flashy as Life but way more solid and effective. I never got why anyone never found soO flashy :D Have they not seen soO play zvz? His ling/bane micro is the best there is without contest. it's a bit like TaeJa, everything is really good and he's a well rounded players but he doesn't make too many stellar moves, mostly because he never needs too. And being consistently good doesn't make ppl go wow compared to winning a game with some crazy shit. And he's the best ZvZer, not only for ling/bane micro, and by far His CatZ builds on Merry Go Round and Overgrowth made a lot more people fond of him. I still think he's really not popular enough for a player that has shown such brilliance. Tbh his fight vs Flash on deadwing in GSL s3 ro16 was the best thing I saw out of him, mastermind plan and perfect execution designed to destroy his opponent strategy. Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 01:52 HellHound wrote:On July 06 2015 01:49 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 01:47 HellHound wrote:On July 06 2015 01:45 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 01:44 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 06 2015 01:39 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 01:37 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 06 2015 01:36 sAsImre wrote:
Still better than a teamkill imo. Decent showing for Samsung, Dear going far and Solar getting past some good T is good news. Yeah full SKT1 teamkill for the next two matches would be quite lame. I really hope soO get this. If he gets back to his old form it'd be awesome, he takes better fights than every other Z by such a margin when he's on top of his game. Yeah me too. Old form soO was perfect macro, awesome engagements, and incredible blood thirst. yeah not as flashy as Life but way more solid and effective. I never got why anyone never found soO flashy :D Have they not seen soO play zvz? His ling/bane micro is the best there is without contest. it's a bit like TaeJa, everything is really good and he's a well rounded players but he doesn't make too many stellar moves, mostly because he never needs too. And being consistently good doesn't make ppl go wow compared to winning a game with some crazy shit. And he's the best ZvZer, not only for ling/bane micro, and by far Yeah that's for sure. Maybe it's just me but I always loved watching TaeJa and soO, it was mesmerizing to see how they made everything look so natural and easy. I mentioned his ling bane micro specificly cause it looks like it's from 2017 I'd just say that you got some excellent taste :p
I don't remember the Deadwing map vs Flash, what was it ?
Classic seems poised to win now by the way.
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On July 06 2015 01:54 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 01:52 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 01:51 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 06 2015 01:49 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 01:47 HellHound wrote:On July 06 2015 01:45 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 01:44 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 06 2015 01:39 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 01:37 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 06 2015 01:36 sAsImre wrote:
Still better than a teamkill imo. Decent showing for Samsung, Dear going far and Solar getting past some good T is good news. Yeah full SKT1 teamkill for the next two matches would be quite lame. I really hope soO get this. If he gets back to his old form it'd be awesome, he takes better fights than every other Z by such a margin when he's on top of his game. Yeah me too. Old form soO was perfect macro, awesome engagements, and incredible blood thirst. yeah not as flashy as Life but way more solid and effective. I never got why anyone never found soO flashy :D Have they not seen soO play zvz? His ling/bane micro is the best there is without contest. it's a bit like TaeJa, everything is really good and he's a well rounded players but he doesn't make too many stellar moves, mostly because he never needs too. And being consistently good doesn't make ppl go wow compared to winning a game with some crazy shit. And he's the best ZvZer, not only for ling/bane micro, and by far His CatZ builds on Merry Go Round and Overgrowth made a lot more people fond of him. I still think he's really not popular enough for a player that has shown such brilliance. Tbh his fight vs Flash on deadwing in GSL s3 ro16 was the best thing I saw out of him, mastermind plan and perfect execution designed to destroy his opponent strategy. On July 06 2015 01:52 HellHound wrote:On July 06 2015 01:49 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 01:47 HellHound wrote:On July 06 2015 01:45 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 01:44 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 06 2015 01:39 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 01:37 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 06 2015 01:36 sAsImre wrote:
Still better than a teamkill imo. Decent showing for Samsung, Dear going far and Solar getting past some good T is good news. Yeah full SKT1 teamkill for the next two matches would be quite lame. I really hope soO get this. If he gets back to his old form it'd be awesome, he takes better fights than every other Z by such a margin when he's on top of his game. Yeah me too. Old form soO was perfect macro, awesome engagements, and incredible blood thirst. yeah not as flashy as Life but way more solid and effective. I never got why anyone never found soO flashy :D Have they not seen soO play zvz? His ling/bane micro is the best there is without contest. it's a bit like TaeJa, everything is really good and he's a well rounded players but he doesn't make too many stellar moves, mostly because he never needs too. And being consistently good doesn't make ppl go wow compared to winning a game with some crazy shit. And he's the best ZvZer, not only for ling/bane micro, and by far Yeah that's for sure. Maybe it's just me but I always loved watching TaeJa and soO, it was mesmerizing to see how they made everything look so natural and easy. I mentioned his ling bane micro specificly cause it looks like it's from 2017 I'd just say that you got some excellent taste :p I don't remember the Deadwing map vs Flash, what was it ? Classic seems poised to win now by the way.
vertical pos, he gets a low muta count and a tons of banes + a 180° arc on flash to crush the 2/2 timing seen from the xel. Best ZvT fight of 2014 I think.
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On July 06 2015 01:54 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 01:52 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 01:51 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 06 2015 01:49 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 01:47 HellHound wrote:On July 06 2015 01:45 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 01:44 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 06 2015 01:39 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 01:37 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 06 2015 01:36 sAsImre wrote:
Still better than a teamkill imo. Decent showing for Samsung, Dear going far and Solar getting past some good T is good news. Yeah full SKT1 teamkill for the next two matches would be quite lame. I really hope soO get this. If he gets back to his old form it'd be awesome, he takes better fights than every other Z by such a margin when he's on top of his game. Yeah me too. Old form soO was perfect macro, awesome engagements, and incredible blood thirst. yeah not as flashy as Life but way more solid and effective. I never got why anyone never found soO flashy :D Have they not seen soO play zvz? His ling/bane micro is the best there is without contest. it's a bit like TaeJa, everything is really good and he's a well rounded players but he doesn't make too many stellar moves, mostly because he never needs too. And being consistently good doesn't make ppl go wow compared to winning a game with some crazy shit. And he's the best ZvZer, not only for ling/bane micro, and by far His CatZ builds on Merry Go Round and Overgrowth made a lot more people fond of him. I still think he's really not popular enough for a player that has shown such brilliance. Tbh his fight vs Flash on deadwing in GSL s3 ro16 was the best thing I saw out of him, mastermind plan and perfect execution designed to destroy his opponent strategy. On July 06 2015 01:52 HellHound wrote:On July 06 2015 01:49 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 01:47 HellHound wrote:On July 06 2015 01:45 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 01:44 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 06 2015 01:39 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 01:37 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 06 2015 01:36 sAsImre wrote:
Still better than a teamkill imo. Decent showing for Samsung, Dear going far and Solar getting past some good T is good news. Yeah full SKT1 teamkill for the next two matches would be quite lame. I really hope soO get this. If he gets back to his old form it'd be awesome, he takes better fights than every other Z by such a margin when he's on top of his game. Yeah me too. Old form soO was perfect macro, awesome engagements, and incredible blood thirst. yeah not as flashy as Life but way more solid and effective. I never got why anyone never found soO flashy :D Have they not seen soO play zvz? His ling/bane micro is the best there is without contest. it's a bit like TaeJa, everything is really good and he's a well rounded players but he doesn't make too many stellar moves, mostly because he never needs too. And being consistently good doesn't make ppl go wow compared to winning a game with some crazy shit. And he's the best ZvZer, not only for ling/bane micro, and by far Yeah that's for sure. Maybe it's just me but I always loved watching TaeJa and soO, it was mesmerizing to see how they made everything look so natural and easy. I mentioned his ling bane micro specificly cause it looks like it's from 2017 I'd just say that you got some excellent taste :p I don't remember the Deadwing map vs Flash, what was it ? Classic seems poised to win now by the way.
Heavy macro openers Flash tried(keyword) to pushed at 2/2 and soO won.
That's it.
GO CLASSIC
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On July 06 2015 01:57 HellHound wrote:
Dammit dear is winning
Rejoice, you got enough good SKT players and 2013 Dear back would be as awesome as 2014 soO's return.
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There was like 1 inch to go through and Dear smashed his way through with impressive decisiveness.
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Dear is back again I am sure he will run off somewhere by the next series
no Classic Dream. Damm you clutch jerk
Oh well Go Go Dream
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On July 06 2015 01:59 HellHound wrote:
Dear is back again I am sure he will run off somewhere by the next series
Into Dream's head most likely.
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On July 06 2015 01:58 sAsImre wrote:Rejoice, you got enough good SKT players and 2013 Dear back would be as awesome as 2014 soO's return.
2013 Dear was mind blowing. One of my SC2 crushes with 2012 Rain and Zest 2013 PvZ.
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On July 06 2015 01:59 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 01:59 HellHound wrote:
Dear is back again I am sure he will run off somewhere by the next series Into Dream's head most likely.
Nah I don't think so, Dream is still too high of a step for Dear.
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On July 06 2015 01:59 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 01:58 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 01:57 HellHound wrote:
Dammit dear is winning Rejoice, you got enough good SKT players and 2013 Dear back would be as awesome as 2014 soO's return. 2013 Dear was mind blowing. One of my SC2 crushes with 2012 Rain and Zest 2013 PvZ.
No TvP series got even close to Dear x Maru 2013
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On July 06 2015 01:59 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 01:58 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 01:57 HellHound wrote:
Dammit dear is winning Rejoice, you got enough good SKT players and 2013 Dear back would be as awesome as 2014 soO's return. 2013 Dear was mind blowing. One of my SC2 crushes with 2012 Rain and Zest 2014 PvZ.
there you go
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On July 06 2015 02:00 HellHound wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 01:59 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 06 2015 01:58 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 01:57 HellHound wrote:
Dammit dear is winning Rejoice, you got enough good SKT players and 2013 Dear back would be as awesome as 2014 soO's return. 2013 Dear was mind blowing. One of my SC2 crushes with 2012 Rain and Zest 2014 PvZ. there you go
When was Zest playing exclusively phoenix openings into very late and safe 3rds while still demolishing every Z ? That's the Zest I'm talking about.
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On July 06 2015 02:01 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 02:00 HellHound wrote:On July 06 2015 01:59 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 06 2015 01:58 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 01:57 HellHound wrote:
Dammit dear is winning Rejoice, you got enough good SKT players and 2013 Dear back would be as awesome as 2014 soO's return. 2013 Dear was mind blowing. One of my SC2 crushes with 2012 Rain and Zest 2014 PvZ. there you go When was Zest playing exclusively phoenix openings into very late and safe 3rds while still demolishing every Z ? That's the Zest I'm talking about.
2014 till TRUE ate his soul
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On July 06 2015 02:03 HellHound wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 02:01 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 06 2015 02:00 HellHound wrote:On July 06 2015 01:59 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 06 2015 01:58 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 01:57 HellHound wrote:
Dammit dear is winning Rejoice, you got enough good SKT players and 2013 Dear back would be as awesome as 2014 soO's return. 2013 Dear was mind blowing. One of my SC2 crushes with 2012 Rain and Zest 2014 PvZ. there you go When was Zest playing exclusively phoenix openings into very late and safe 3rds while still demolishing every Z ? That's the Zest I'm talking about. 2014 till TRUE ate his soul
then he tried that build vs Life too and it didn't go very well
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On July 06 2015 02:03 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 02:03 HellHound wrote:On July 06 2015 02:01 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 06 2015 02:00 HellHound wrote:On July 06 2015 01:59 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 06 2015 01:58 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 01:57 HellHound wrote:
Dammit dear is winning Rejoice, you got enough good SKT players and 2013 Dear back would be as awesome as 2014 soO's return. 2013 Dear was mind blowing. One of my SC2 crushes with 2012 Rain and Zest 2014 PvZ. there you go When was Zest playing exclusively phoenix openings into very late and safe 3rds while still demolishing every Z ? That's the Zest I'm talking about. 2014 till TRUE ate his soul then he tried that build vs Life too and it didn't go very well
He made it work in awesome fashion on Merry Go Round vs Life at IEM though.
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On July 06 2015 02:03 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 02:03 HellHound wrote:On July 06 2015 02:01 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 06 2015 02:00 HellHound wrote:On July 06 2015 01:59 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 06 2015 01:58 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 01:57 HellHound wrote:
Dammit dear is winning Rejoice, you got enough good SKT players and 2013 Dear back would be as awesome as 2014 soO's return. 2013 Dear was mind blowing. One of my SC2 crushes with 2012 Rain and Zest 2014 PvZ. there you go When was Zest playing exclusively phoenix openings into very late and safe 3rds while still demolishing every Z ? That's the Zest I'm talking about. 2014 till TRUE ate his soul then he tried that build vs Life too and it didn't go very well
Do you mean at blizzcon or torronto?
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On July 06 2015 02:04 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 02:03 Ej_ wrote:On July 06 2015 02:03 HellHound wrote:On July 06 2015 02:01 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 06 2015 02:00 HellHound wrote:On July 06 2015 01:59 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 06 2015 01:58 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 01:57 HellHound wrote:
Dammit dear is winning Rejoice, you got enough good SKT players and 2013 Dear back would be as awesome as 2014 soO's return. 2013 Dear was mind blowing. One of my SC2 crushes with 2012 Rain and Zest 2014 PvZ. there you go When was Zest playing exclusively phoenix openings into very late and safe 3rds while still demolishing every Z ? That's the Zest I'm talking about. 2014 till TRUE ate his soul then he tried that build vs Life too and it didn't go very well He made it work in awesome fashion on Merry Go Round vs Life at IEM though.
Blizzcon RIP
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Is Dear actually ahead?
It seems even to me but I don't trust my tvp knowledge at all.
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On July 06 2015 02:09 HellHound wrote:
Is Dear actually ahead?
It seems even to me but I don't trust my tvp knowledge at all.
Looks fairly even. I don't see any real advantage for Dear or Dream.
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And now Dream is super far ahead :D
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OK now Dream should enjoy a slight advantage.
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On July 06 2015 02:11 HellHound wrote:
And now Dream is super far ahead :D
Not super far, Dear has got good upgrades.
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On July 06 2015 02:10 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 02:09 HellHound wrote:
Is Dear actually ahead?
It seems even to me but I don't trust my tvp knowledge at all. Looks fairly even. I don't see any real advantage for Dear or Dream.
I see a pretty big advantage for Dream :D
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On July 06 2015 02:12 [PkF] Wire wrote:Not super far, Dear has got good upgrades.
The one he needs he doesn't have.
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On July 06 2015 02:12 [PkF] Wire wrote:Not super far, Dear has got good upgrades.
he has 2minutes to further his advantage or Dear will catch up yeah. Or just pull the boyz
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On July 06 2015 02:12 HellHound wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 02:10 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 06 2015 02:09 HellHound wrote:
Is Dear actually ahead?
It seems even to me but I don't trust my tvp knowledge at all. Looks fairly even. I don't see any real advantage for Dear or Dream. I see a pretty big advantage for Dream :D
Dream has an economic lead but Dear has better upgrades.
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On July 06 2015 02:12 royalroadweed wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 02:12 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 06 2015 02:11 HellHound wrote:
And now Dream is super far ahead :D Not super far, Dear has got good upgrades. The one he needs he doesn't have.
I'm gonna wait for a fight to happen to say Dear is dead.
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2/2 all in is a good shot for Dear
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See you have to believe in double forge.
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On July 06 2015 02:13 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 02:12 royalroadweed wrote:On July 06 2015 02:12 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 06 2015 02:11 HellHound wrote:
And now Dream is super far ahead :D Not super far, Dear has got good upgrades. The one he needs he doesn't have. I'm gonna wait for a fight to happen to say Dear is dead.
You didn't have to wait long.
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On July 06 2015 02:13 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 02:12 HellHound wrote:On July 06 2015 02:10 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 06 2015 02:09 HellHound wrote:
Is Dear actually ahead?
It seems even to me but I don't trust my tvp knowledge at all. Looks fairly even. I don't see any real advantage for Dear or Dream. I see a pretty big advantage for Dream :D Dream has an economic lead but Dear has better upgrades.
I meant Dreams skill
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DOUBLE FORGE HYPE
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I so enjoy watching Dream play. He's just on the wrong team :S
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On July 06 2015 02:15 [PkF] Wire wrote:DOUBLE FORGE HYPE crushed
fak u creator
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When did Zeweig turn into the mute drawing of an animé girl?
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I don't remember soO and Dream meeting in important matches. Would be really interesting if they met since one of them will cement his kong legacy while the other will win some nice trophy.
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On July 06 2015 02:17 [PkF] Wire wrote:
I don't remember soO and Dream meeting in important matches. Would be really interesting if they met since one of them will cement his kong legacy while the other will win some nice trophy.
An imaginary one
Tho soO already has 1 (or 2 if that MLG event had one)
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Dream's TvT rating on aligulac went up by 44 points today by the way.
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On July 06 2015 02:15 Elentos wrote:
I so enjoy watching Dream play. He's just on the wrong team :S
i know
it's ok one more SSL kong title and he might consider a switch to escape the curse.
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On July 06 2015 02:19 dazed25 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 02:15 Elentos wrote:
I so enjoy watching Dream play. He's just on the wrong team :S i know it's ok one more SSL kong title and he might consider a switch to escape the curse.
Just like Life did amirite.
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On July 06 2015 02:19 Elentos wrote:
Dream's TvT rating on aligulac went up by 44 points today by the way.
His TvT is good these days, maybe top 5. He's so insane in his other match ups that it still looks kinda bad haha
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By the way is anyone else finding the sound on the stream extremely low ?
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On July 06 2015 02:20 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 02:19 Elentos wrote:
Dream's TvT rating on aligulac went up by 44 points today by the way. His TvT is good these days, maybe top 5. He's so insane in his other match ups that it still looks kinda bad haha
I think they taught him actually builds rather then his eh make drops strat.
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On July 06 2015 02:20 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 02:19 Elentos wrote:
Dream's TvT rating on aligulac went up by 44 points today by the way. His TvT is good these days, maybe top 5. He's so insane in his other match ups that it still looks kinda bad haha
TvT lists are so hard to make though. Maru is pretty clearly #1 but afterwards it gets blurry.
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On July 06 2015 02:22 HellHound wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 02:20 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 02:19 Elentos wrote:
Dream's TvT rating on aligulac went up by 44 points today by the way. His TvT is good these days, maybe top 5. He's so insane in his other match ups that it still looks kinda bad haha I think they taught him actually builds rather then his eh make drops strat.
His builds were always ok. His tactics were so primitive. Like 2010 MKP lvl. Dooooooom droooooop. It's a bit better these days and with his execution it's enough to be a good TvTer xD
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On July 06 2015 02:20 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 02:19 Elentos wrote:
Dream's TvT rating on aligulac went up by 44 points today by the way. His TvT is good these days, maybe top 5. He's so insane in his other match ups that it still looks kinda bad haha
His TvT win rate is better than his TvZ win rate recently. His TvZ only really seems mindbogglingly godlike when he has time to prepare.
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On July 06 2015 02:22 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 02:20 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 02:19 Elentos wrote:
Dream's TvT rating on aligulac went up by 44 points today by the way. His TvT is good these days, maybe top 5. He's so insane in his other match ups that it still looks kinda bad haha TvT lists are so hard to make though. Maru is pretty clearly #1 but afterwards it gets blurry.
Maru/inno/flash/dream/bomber imo. Hugely personal and not based on anything except my own opinion.
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On July 06 2015 02:23 royalroadweed wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 02:20 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 02:19 Elentos wrote:
Dream's TvT rating on aligulac went up by 44 points today by the way. His TvT is good these days, maybe top 5. He's so insane in his other match ups that it still looks kinda bad haha His TvT win rate is better than his TvZ win rate recently. His TvZ only really seems mindbogglingly godlike when he has time to prepare.
He only plays TvZ very rarely these days. Lots of TvP.
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On July 06 2015 02:24 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 02:22 Elentos wrote:On July 06 2015 02:20 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 02:19 Elentos wrote:
Dream's TvT rating on aligulac went up by 44 points today by the way. His TvT is good these days, maybe top 5. He's so insane in his other match ups that it still looks kinda bad haha TvT lists are so hard to make though. Maru is pretty clearly #1 but afterwards it gets blurry. Maru/inno/flash/dream/bomber imo. Hugely personal and not based on anything except my own opinion.
See, I'd put in TY over Dream or Bomber based on their current form (Bomber got terribly trashed by Maru in GSL while Maru vs TY was close, TY also beat Dream to qualify for Shenzhen).
Also Dear likes to overcommit with his blink I see.
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Kong of kongs title at stake now. Sad this is only bo3.
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On July 06 2015 02:26 Inflicted wrote:
Finals is 2x Bo3 win for Dream, 1x Bo3 for soO
Oh nice to know thanks.
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On July 06 2015 02:26 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 02:24 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 02:22 Elentos wrote:On July 06 2015 02:20 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 02:19 Elentos wrote:
Dream's TvT rating on aligulac went up by 44 points today by the way. His TvT is good these days, maybe top 5. He's so insane in his other match ups that it still looks kinda bad haha TvT lists are so hard to make though. Maru is pretty clearly #1 but afterwards it gets blurry. Maru/inno/flash/dream/bomber imo. Hugely personal and not based on anything except my own opinion. See, I'd put in TY over Dream or Bomber based on their current form (Bomber got terribly trashed by Maru in GSL while Maru vs TY was close). Also Dear likes to overcommit with his blink I see.
Bomber got trashed by Maru I agree but he'd still trash almost anyone else, I'd drop Flash if I had to make place for TY.
Imo TY is ultra underrated these days since he got fucked by Life for Proleague.
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On July 06 2015 02:27 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 02:26 Elentos wrote:On July 06 2015 02:24 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 02:22 Elentos wrote:On July 06 2015 02:20 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 02:19 Elentos wrote:
Dream's TvT rating on aligulac went up by 44 points today by the way. His TvT is good these days, maybe top 5. He's so insane in his other match ups that it still looks kinda bad haha TvT lists are so hard to make though. Maru is pretty clearly #1 but afterwards it gets blurry. Maru/inno/flash/dream/bomber imo. Hugely personal and not based on anything except my own opinion. See, I'd put in TY over Dream or Bomber based on their current form (Bomber got terribly trashed by Maru in GSL while Maru vs TY was close). Also Dear likes to overcommit with his blink I see. Bomber got trashed by Maru I agree but he'd still trash almost anyone else, I'd drop Flash if I had to make place for TY. Imo TY is ultra underrated these days since he got fucked by Life for Proleague.
Kt coaches questionable :D
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first place is 3k, seconde only 500. thats insane
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On July 06 2015 02:27 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 02:26 Elentos wrote:On July 06 2015 02:24 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 02:22 Elentos wrote:On July 06 2015 02:20 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 02:19 Elentos wrote:
Dream's TvT rating on aligulac went up by 44 points today by the way. His TvT is good these days, maybe top 5. He's so insane in his other match ups that it still looks kinda bad haha TvT lists are so hard to make though. Maru is pretty clearly #1 but afterwards it gets blurry. Maru/inno/flash/dream/bomber imo. Hugely personal and not based on anything except my own opinion. See, I'd put in TY over Dream or Bomber based on their current form (Bomber got terribly trashed by Maru in GSL while Maru vs TY was close). Also Dear likes to overcommit with his blink I see. Bomber got trashed by Maru I agree but he'd still trash almost anyone else, I'd drop Flash if I had to make place for TY. Imo TY is ultra underrated these days since he got fucked by Life for Proleague.
All people see in him is the guy with the cool map specific strategies. But on his best days he plays brilliantly and like a top 3 Terran :S
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On July 06 2015 02:28 HellHound wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 02:27 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 02:26 Elentos wrote:On July 06 2015 02:24 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 02:22 Elentos wrote:On July 06 2015 02:20 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 02:19 Elentos wrote:
Dream's TvT rating on aligulac went up by 44 points today by the way. His TvT is good these days, maybe top 5. He's so insane in his other match ups that it still looks kinda bad haha TvT lists are so hard to make though. Maru is pretty clearly #1 but afterwards it gets blurry. Maru/inno/flash/dream/bomber imo. Hugely personal and not based on anything except my own opinion. See, I'd put in TY over Dream or Bomber based on their current form (Bomber got terribly trashed by Maru in GSL while Maru vs TY was close). Also Dear likes to overcommit with his blink I see. Bomber got trashed by Maru I agree but he'd still trash almost anyone else, I'd drop Flash if I had to make place for TY. Imo TY is ultra underrated these days since he got fucked by Life for Proleague. Kt coaches questionable :D
Flash's been good in r3, imo Zest should've played less.
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On July 06 2015 02:29 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 02:27 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 02:26 Elentos wrote:On July 06 2015 02:24 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 02:22 Elentos wrote:On July 06 2015 02:20 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 02:19 Elentos wrote:
Dream's TvT rating on aligulac went up by 44 points today by the way. His TvT is good these days, maybe top 5. He's so insane in his other match ups that it still looks kinda bad haha TvT lists are so hard to make though. Maru is pretty clearly #1 but afterwards it gets blurry. Maru/inno/flash/dream/bomber imo. Hugely personal and not based on anything except my own opinion. See, I'd put in TY over Dream or Bomber based on their current form (Bomber got terribly trashed by Maru in GSL while Maru vs TY was close). Also Dear likes to overcommit with his blink I see. Bomber got trashed by Maru I agree but he'd still trash almost anyone else, I'd drop Flash if I had to make place for TY. Imo TY is ultra underrated these days since he got fucked by Life for Proleague. All people see in him is the guy with the cool map specific strategies. But on his best days he plays brilliantly and like a top 3 Terran :S
Top 3 terran might be the most overused phrase. I remember last year when polt, bomber, flash, innovation, maru, and taeja all managed to be a top 3 terran.
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noooo damn you Dear, you were supposed to show us how a Protoss beats Dream!
bit off topic, are terran players sick of watching widow mine drops? I think if I watch another TvP today I'm going to puke... but I'm a Protoss myself so that might be the reason xD
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On July 06 2015 02:29 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 02:27 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 02:26 Elentos wrote:On July 06 2015 02:24 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 02:22 Elentos wrote:On July 06 2015 02:20 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 02:19 Elentos wrote:
Dream's TvT rating on aligulac went up by 44 points today by the way. His TvT is good these days, maybe top 5. He's so insane in his other match ups that it still looks kinda bad haha TvT lists are so hard to make though. Maru is pretty clearly #1 but afterwards it gets blurry. Maru/inno/flash/dream/bomber imo. Hugely personal and not based on anything except my own opinion. See, I'd put in TY over Dream or Bomber based on their current form (Bomber got terribly trashed by Maru in GSL while Maru vs TY was close). Also Dear likes to overcommit with his blink I see. Bomber got trashed by Maru I agree but he'd still trash almost anyone else, I'd drop Flash if I had to make place for TY. Imo TY is ultra underrated these days since he got fucked by Life for Proleague. All people see in him is the guy with the cool map specific strategies. But on his best days he plays brilliantly and like a top 3 Terran :S
Reminds me of Maru a lot tbh.
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On July 06 2015 02:31 HellHound wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 02:29 Elentos wrote:On July 06 2015 02:27 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 02:26 Elentos wrote:On July 06 2015 02:24 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 02:22 Elentos wrote:On July 06 2015 02:20 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 02:19 Elentos wrote:
Dream's TvT rating on aligulac went up by 44 points today by the way. His TvT is good these days, maybe top 5. He's so insane in his other match ups that it still looks kinda bad haha TvT lists are so hard to make though. Maru is pretty clearly #1 but afterwards it gets blurry. Maru/inno/flash/dream/bomber imo. Hugely personal and not based on anything except my own opinion. See, I'd put in TY over Dream or Bomber based on their current form (Bomber got terribly trashed by Maru in GSL while Maru vs TY was close). Also Dear likes to overcommit with his blink I see. Bomber got trashed by Maru I agree but he'd still trash almost anyone else, I'd drop Flash if I had to make place for TY. Imo TY is ultra underrated these days since he got fucked by Life for Proleague. All people see in him is the guy with the cool map specific strategies. But on his best days he plays brilliantly and like a top 3 Terran :S Reminds me of Maru a lot tbh.
He reminds me of WOL gumiho. Cute builds, great use of map features and crazy multitasking.
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On July 06 2015 02:29 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 02:28 HellHound wrote:On July 06 2015 02:27 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 02:26 Elentos wrote:On July 06 2015 02:24 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 02:22 Elentos wrote:On July 06 2015 02:20 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 02:19 Elentos wrote:
Dream's TvT rating on aligulac went up by 44 points today by the way. His TvT is good these days, maybe top 5. He's so insane in his other match ups that it still looks kinda bad haha TvT lists are so hard to make though. Maru is pretty clearly #1 but afterwards it gets blurry. Maru/inno/flash/dream/bomber imo. Hugely personal and not based on anything except my own opinion. See, I'd put in TY over Dream or Bomber based on their current form (Bomber got terribly trashed by Maru in GSL while Maru vs TY was close). Also Dear likes to overcommit with his blink I see. Bomber got trashed by Maru I agree but he'd still trash almost anyone else, I'd drop Flash if I had to make place for TY. Imo TY is ultra underrated these days since he got fucked by Life for Proleague. Kt coaches questionable :D Flash's been good in r3, imo Zest should've played less.
In round 3 Stats got benched for TY 3 times, that was interesting. The thing is, Zest went 5-3 in r3, he lost to Maru, Dream and Creator. And later got a 2-kill against Jin Air (which is more than the rest of the team managed combined ). Imo it wasn't bad to field Zest so often. Just the ace match against Jin Air was a mistake.
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On July 06 2015 02:31 Silvana wrote:
noooo damn you Dear, you were supposed to show us how a Protoss beats Dream!
bit off topic, are terran players sick of watching widow mine drops? I think if I watch another TvP today I'm going to puke... but I'm a Protoss myself so that might be the reason xD
It's Dear's fault in the first place Classic wanted to show how you beat Dream :D
Dream mine drops a lot in tvz so maybe you should close your eyes.
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On July 06 2015 02:32 royalroadweed wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 02:31 HellHound wrote:On July 06 2015 02:29 Elentos wrote:On July 06 2015 02:27 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 02:26 Elentos wrote:On July 06 2015 02:24 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 02:22 Elentos wrote:On July 06 2015 02:20 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 02:19 Elentos wrote:
Dream's TvT rating on aligulac went up by 44 points today by the way. His TvT is good these days, maybe top 5. He's so insane in his other match ups that it still looks kinda bad haha TvT lists are so hard to make though. Maru is pretty clearly #1 but afterwards it gets blurry. Maru/inno/flash/dream/bomber imo. Hugely personal and not based on anything except my own opinion. See, I'd put in TY over Dream or Bomber based on their current form (Bomber got terribly trashed by Maru in GSL while Maru vs TY was close). Also Dear likes to overcommit with his blink I see. Bomber got trashed by Maru I agree but he'd still trash almost anyone else, I'd drop Flash if I had to make place for TY. Imo TY is ultra underrated these days since he got fucked by Life for Proleague. All people see in him is the guy with the cool map specific strategies. But on his best days he plays brilliantly and like a top 3 Terran :S Reminds me of Maru a lot tbh. He reminds me of WOL gumiho. Cute builds, great use of map features and crazy multitasking.
He has really good micro too :D
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On July 06 2015 02:32 HellHound wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 02:31 Silvana wrote:
noooo damn you Dear, you were supposed to show us how a Protoss beats Dream!
bit off topic, are terran players sick of watching widow mine drops? I think if I watch another TvP today I'm going to puke... but I'm a Protoss myself so that might be the reason xD It's Dear's fault in the first place Classic wanted to show how you beat Dream :D Dream mine drops a lot in tvz so maybe you should close your eyes.
Mines drops don't do crazy damage in TvZ. Zerg players have actually have good mechanics >.>
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On July 06 2015 02:30 royalroadweed wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 02:29 Elentos wrote:On July 06 2015 02:27 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 02:26 Elentos wrote:On July 06 2015 02:24 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 02:22 Elentos wrote:On July 06 2015 02:20 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 02:19 Elentos wrote:
Dream's TvT rating on aligulac went up by 44 points today by the way. His TvT is good these days, maybe top 5. He's so insane in his other match ups that it still looks kinda bad haha TvT lists are so hard to make though. Maru is pretty clearly #1 but afterwards it gets blurry. Maru/inno/flash/dream/bomber imo. Hugely personal and not based on anything except my own opinion. See, I'd put in TY over Dream or Bomber based on their current form (Bomber got terribly trashed by Maru in GSL while Maru vs TY was close). Also Dear likes to overcommit with his blink I see. Bomber got trashed by Maru I agree but he'd still trash almost anyone else, I'd drop Flash if I had to make place for TY. Imo TY is ultra underrated these days since he got fucked by Life for Proleague. All people see in him is the guy with the cool map specific strategies. But on his best days he plays brilliantly and like a top 3 Terran :S Top 3 terran might be the most overused phrase. I remember last year when polt, bomber, flash, innovation, maru, and taeja all managed to be a top 3 terran.
Well. On TY's best days there's no huge difference to be seen between his skill and Dream's or Maru's, while the gap between them and other Terrans (bar INnoVation as he is currently getting back to form) is gigantic.
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On July 06 2015 02:32 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 02:29 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 02:28 HellHound wrote:On July 06 2015 02:27 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 02:26 Elentos wrote:On July 06 2015 02:24 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 02:22 Elentos wrote:On July 06 2015 02:20 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 02:19 Elentos wrote:
Dream's TvT rating on aligulac went up by 44 points today by the way. His TvT is good these days, maybe top 5. He's so insane in his other match ups that it still looks kinda bad haha TvT lists are so hard to make though. Maru is pretty clearly #1 but afterwards it gets blurry. Maru/inno/flash/dream/bomber imo. Hugely personal and not based on anything except my own opinion. See, I'd put in TY over Dream or Bomber based on their current form (Bomber got terribly trashed by Maru in GSL while Maru vs TY was close). Also Dear likes to overcommit with his blink I see. Bomber got trashed by Maru I agree but he'd still trash almost anyone else, I'd drop Flash if I had to make place for TY. Imo TY is ultra underrated these days since he got fucked by Life for Proleague. Kt coaches questionable :D Flash's been good in r3, imo Zest should've played less. In round 3 Stats got benched for TY 3 times, that was interesting. The thing is, Zest went 5-3 in r3, he lost to Maru, Dream and Creator. And later got a 2-kill against Jin Air (which is more than the rest of the team managed combined ). Imo it wasn't bad to field Zest so often. Just the ace match against Jin Air was a mistake.
And vs Creator xD. Doesn't matter ofc. Benching Life a bunch wouldn't be bad either (1/2 times per round) so he can focus on important individual matches. Imo there is the place for 5 players with almost the same playing time for KT (5ish appearance each)
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On July 06 2015 02:32 HellHound wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 02:31 Silvana wrote:
noooo damn you Dear, you were supposed to show us how a Protoss beats Dream!
bit off topic, are terran players sick of watching widow mine drops? I think if I watch another TvP today I'm going to puke... but I'm a Protoss myself so that might be the reason xD It's Dear's fault in the first place Classic wanted to show how you beat Dream :D Dream mine drops a lot in tvz so maybe you should close your eyes.
yes that too, I wanted to see Classic beat Dream so badly! Idk why but I hate the guy, I have to make an effort to watch his games even tho I know they're gonna be so good
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Oh man that terrible GSL announcer impression. RIP.
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On July 06 2015 02:34 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 02:32 Elentos wrote:On July 06 2015 02:29 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 02:28 HellHound wrote:On July 06 2015 02:27 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 02:26 Elentos wrote:On July 06 2015 02:24 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 02:22 Elentos wrote:On July 06 2015 02:20 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 02:19 Elentos wrote:
Dream's TvT rating on aligulac went up by 44 points today by the way. His TvT is good these days, maybe top 5. He's so insane in his other match ups that it still looks kinda bad haha TvT lists are so hard to make though. Maru is pretty clearly #1 but afterwards it gets blurry. Maru/inno/flash/dream/bomber imo. Hugely personal and not based on anything except my own opinion. See, I'd put in TY over Dream or Bomber based on their current form (Bomber got terribly trashed by Maru in GSL while Maru vs TY was close). Also Dear likes to overcommit with his blink I see. Bomber got trashed by Maru I agree but he'd still trash almost anyone else, I'd drop Flash if I had to make place for TY. Imo TY is ultra underrated these days since he got fucked by Life for Proleague. Kt coaches questionable :D Flash's been good in r3, imo Zest should've played less. In round 3 Stats got benched for TY 3 times, that was interesting. The thing is, Zest went 5-3 in r3, he lost to Maru, Dream and Creator. And later got a 2-kill against Jin Air (which is more than the rest of the team managed combined ). Imo it wasn't bad to field Zest so often. Just the ace match against Jin Air was a mistake. And vs Creator xD. Doesn't matter ofc. Benching Life a bunch wouldn't be bad either (1/2 times per round) so he can focus on important individual matches. Imo there is the place for 5 players with almost the same playing time for KT (5ish appearance each)
That Creator game was Zest losing for no reason t.t
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On July 06 2015 02:34 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 02:30 royalroadweed wrote:On July 06 2015 02:29 Elentos wrote:On July 06 2015 02:27 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 02:26 Elentos wrote:On July 06 2015 02:24 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 02:22 Elentos wrote:On July 06 2015 02:20 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 02:19 Elentos wrote:
Dream's TvT rating on aligulac went up by 44 points today by the way. His TvT is good these days, maybe top 5. He's so insane in his other match ups that it still looks kinda bad haha TvT lists are so hard to make though. Maru is pretty clearly #1 but afterwards it gets blurry. Maru/inno/flash/dream/bomber imo. Hugely personal and not based on anything except my own opinion. See, I'd put in TY over Dream or Bomber based on their current form (Bomber got terribly trashed by Maru in GSL while Maru vs TY was close). Also Dear likes to overcommit with his blink I see. Bomber got trashed by Maru I agree but he'd still trash almost anyone else, I'd drop Flash if I had to make place for TY. Imo TY is ultra underrated these days since he got fucked by Life for Proleague. All people see in him is the guy with the cool map specific strategies. But on his best days he plays brilliantly and like a top 3 Terran :S Top 3 terran might be the most overused phrase. I remember last year when polt, bomber, flash, innovation, maru, and taeja all managed to be a top 3 terran. Well. On TY's best days there's no huge difference to be seen between his skill and Dream's or Maru's, while the gap between them and other Terrans (bar INnoVation as he is currently getting back to form) is gigantic.
I agree on his recent from. However, I've been fooled by TY before when he was 7-0 in proleague before bombing out in code a.
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On July 06 2015 02:34 Silvana wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 02:32 HellHound wrote:On July 06 2015 02:31 Silvana wrote:
noooo damn you Dear, you were supposed to show us how a Protoss beats Dream!
bit off topic, are terran players sick of watching widow mine drops? I think if I watch another TvP today I'm going to puke... but I'm a Protoss myself so that might be the reason xD It's Dear's fault in the first place Classic wanted to show how you beat Dream :D Dream mine drops a lot in tvz so maybe you should close your eyes. yes that too, I wanted to see Classic beat Dream so badly! Idk why but I hate the guy, I have to make an effort to watch his games even tho I know they're gonna be so good
He is a wannabe maru that seems really arrogant?
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On July 06 2015 02:37 HellHound wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 02:34 Silvana wrote:On July 06 2015 02:32 HellHound wrote:On July 06 2015 02:31 Silvana wrote:
noooo damn you Dear, you were supposed to show us how a Protoss beats Dream!
bit off topic, are terran players sick of watching widow mine drops? I think if I watch another TvP today I'm going to puke... but I'm a Protoss myself so that might be the reason xD It's Dear's fault in the first place Classic wanted to show how you beat Dream :D Dream mine drops a lot in tvz so maybe you should close your eyes. yes that too, I wanted to see Classic beat Dream so badly! Idk why but I hate the guy, I have to make an effort to watch his games even tho I know they're gonna be so good He is a wannabe maru that seems really arrogant?
Hear ye, hear ye, Maru invented all Terran play.
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On July 06 2015 02:37 HellHound wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 02:34 Silvana wrote:On July 06 2015 02:32 HellHound wrote:On July 06 2015 02:31 Silvana wrote:
noooo damn you Dear, you were supposed to show us how a Protoss beats Dream!
bit off topic, are terran players sick of watching widow mine drops? I think if I watch another TvP today I'm going to puke... but I'm a Protoss myself so that might be the reason xD It's Dear's fault in the first place Classic wanted to show how you beat Dream :D Dream mine drops a lot in tvz so maybe you should close your eyes. yes that too, I wanted to see Classic beat Dream so badly! Idk why but I hate the guy, I have to make an effort to watch his games even tho I know they're gonna be so good He is a wannabe maru that seems really arrogant?
His TvZ is better than Maru's. His TvP is comparable.
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Really greedy 2 hatch muta
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On July 06 2015 02:36 royalroadweed wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 02:34 Elentos wrote:On July 06 2015 02:30 royalroadweed wrote:On July 06 2015 02:29 Elentos wrote:On July 06 2015 02:27 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 02:26 Elentos wrote:On July 06 2015 02:24 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 02:22 Elentos wrote:On July 06 2015 02:20 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 02:19 Elentos wrote:
Dream's TvT rating on aligulac went up by 44 points today by the way. His TvT is good these days, maybe top 5. He's so insane in his other match ups that it still looks kinda bad haha TvT lists are so hard to make though. Maru is pretty clearly #1 but afterwards it gets blurry. Maru/inno/flash/dream/bomber imo. Hugely personal and not based on anything except my own opinion. See, I'd put in TY over Dream or Bomber based on their current form (Bomber got terribly trashed by Maru in GSL while Maru vs TY was close). Also Dear likes to overcommit with his blink I see. Bomber got trashed by Maru I agree but he'd still trash almost anyone else, I'd drop Flash if I had to make place for TY. Imo TY is ultra underrated these days since he got fucked by Life for Proleague. All people see in him is the guy with the cool map specific strategies. But on his best days he plays brilliantly and like a top 3 Terran :S Top 3 terran might be the most overused phrase. I remember last year when polt, bomber, flash, innovation, maru, and taeja all managed to be a top 3 terran. Well. On TY's best days there's no huge difference to be seen between his skill and Dream's or Maru's, while the gap between them and other Terrans (bar INnoVation as he is currently getting back to form) is gigantic. I agree on his recent from. However, I've been fooled by TY before when he was 7-0 in proleague before bombing out in code a.
That's why I specifically mentioned his "best days". He also has off days where he plays like a B-teamer :S
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On July 06 2015 02:38 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 02:37 HellHound wrote:On July 06 2015 02:34 Silvana wrote:On July 06 2015 02:32 HellHound wrote:On July 06 2015 02:31 Silvana wrote:
noooo damn you Dear, you were supposed to show us how a Protoss beats Dream!
bit off topic, are terran players sick of watching widow mine drops? I think if I watch another TvP today I'm going to puke... but I'm a Protoss myself so that might be the reason xD It's Dear's fault in the first place Classic wanted to show how you beat Dream :D Dream mine drops a lot in tvz so maybe you should close your eyes. yes that too, I wanted to see Classic beat Dream so badly! Idk why but I hate the guy, I have to make an effort to watch his games even tho I know they're gonna be so good He is a wannabe maru that seems really arrogant? Hear ye, hear ye, Maru invented all Terran play.
I like Dream more than Maru tho
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Does an SCV beat a ling 1v1 like broodwar?
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Dream is like the only Terran who commits to safety vikings vs 2-base mut-muts.
On July 06 2015 02:40 royalroadweed wrote:
Does an SCV beat a ling 1v1 like broodwar?
Cue Artosis going "Well a BW probe would have soloed all the lings and then killed all drones in soO's natural while warping in cannons"
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On July 06 2015 02:41 Elentos wrote:
Dream is like the only Terran who commits to safety vikings vs 2-base mut-muts.
while going bio.
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Yep Dream seems like his TvZ is only transcendent when he has time to prepare. He's horrible at adapting mid series. soO played 2 base muta 3 games in row with no adapting by Dream.
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On July 06 2015 02:42 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 02:41 Elentos wrote:
Dream is like the only Terran who commits to safety vikings vs 2-base mut-muts. while going bio.
Journey does that too.
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That's some Dark level creep.
The risk of skipping defense and relying on some more queens paying off.
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On July 06 2015 02:42 royalroadweed wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 02:42 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 02:41 Elentos wrote:
Dream is like the only Terran who commits to safety vikings vs 2-base mut-muts. while going bio. Journey does that too.
Don't mention him again, his series against Myungsik was too weird.
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On July 06 2015 02:42 royalroadweed wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 02:42 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2015 02:41 Elentos wrote:
Dream is like the only Terran who commits to safety vikings vs 2-base mut-muts. while going bio. Journey does that too.
Journey next big T I think/hope.
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On July 06 2015 02:44 HellHound wrote:
That's some Dark level creep.
The risk of skipping defense and relying on some more queens paying off.
Does soO creep on Dark's level or does Dark creep on soO's level?
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Side note that's how Flash vs soO on deadwing looked like.
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On July 06 2015 02:45 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 02:44 HellHound wrote:
That's some Dark level creep.
The risk of skipping defense and relying on some more queens paying off. Does soO creep on Dark's level or does Dark creep on soO's level?
We've lost the old Scarlett standard?
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On July 06 2015 02:46 HellHound wrote:
Side note that's how Flash vs soO on deadwing looked like.
No. Flash had 0 vision, split way worse and got rolled over so bad that soO reached the natural immediately.
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Haha just imagine what Dream will do with tankvac micro
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Wow that failed caster call not seeing the massive amounts of banelings doing nothing.
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On July 06 2015 02:47 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 02:46 HellHound wrote:
Side note that's how Flash vs soO on deadwing looked like.
No. Flash had 0 vision, split way worse and got rolled over so bad that soO reached the natural immediately.
I said looked like not the same thing :D
This game is awesome btw.
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On July 06 2015 02:48 sAsImre wrote:
Haha just imagine what Dream will do with tankvac micro
He get that nerfed/removed for sure.
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If Iron Fortress had a gold base Dream could take this would be so done.
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On July 06 2015 02:48 Elentos wrote:
Wow that failed caster call not seeing the massive amounts of banelings doing nothing.
Dream would have died there otherwise, was it missclick on thors or mine?
I blinked.
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soO engages so beautifully
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
This is soO i know and love, holy moly.
Feels good.
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Starcraft is a beautiful game
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Jebus that creep is so annoying.
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rofl soO has no bank
hahahahah
The most absurd macro ever.
soO has no bank HAAHAHAHA
He needs to build a bank :D:D:D:
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One more for a flawless victory
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
Insane engagements, all hail Eo Yun Soo.
<3
One more for perfect tournament, already better than Dreamhack.
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soO playing well is... a thing of beauty.
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Dream. Please win the next map. I need another game here :3
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On July 06 2015 02:54 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Insane engagements, all hail Eo Yun Soo.
<3
soO! soO!! soO!!! SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
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excusme is this the Police? I'd like to report a fucking murder.
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soO playing ridiculously well.
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I guess that TL article that said Dream is the player most similar to Taeja went a little ahead of themselves.
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On July 06 2015 02:55 Elentos wrote:
Dream. Please win the next map. I need another game here :3
the next 2 maps then let soO win the last bo3
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On July 06 2015 02:55 royalroadweed wrote:
I guess that TL article that said Dream is the player most similar to Taeja went a little ahead of themselves.
Pretty sure stuchiu said TaeJa is the most similar to Dream. Out of a selection of Maru, TaeJa and INnoVation.
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Lets see if soO will play 2 base muta 4 games in a row.
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Btw Dream and inno only dropped maps to SKT players
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On July 06 2015 02:56 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 02:55 royalroadweed wrote:
I guess that TL article that said Dream is the player most similar to Taeja went a little ahead of themselves. Pretty sure stuchiu said TaeJa is the most similar to Dream. Out of a selection of Maru, TaeJa and INnoVation.
Imo Dream is a smarter INnoVation with some Maru flair in TvP
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On July 06 2015 02:57 royalroadweed wrote:
Lets see if soO will play 2 base muta 4 games in a row.
2 base roach bane
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On July 06 2015 02:57 REyeM wrote:
pls soO
lose.
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On July 06 2015 02:56 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 02:55 royalroadweed wrote:
I guess that TL article that said Dream is the player most similar to Taeja went a little ahead of themselves. Pretty sure stuchiu said TaeJa is the most similar to Dream. Out of a selection of Maru, TaeJa and INnoVation.
it's true they're both really patient vZ/P and take perfect engagements way more than any other player. The only two terrans who can play defensive vZ while going bio.
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mass reaper
lets see how this goes
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2 rax reaper! The greatest of silly builds!
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I'll be surprised if this works. Sorry is on SKT.
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On July 06 2015 02:57 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 02:56 Elentos wrote:On July 06 2015 02:55 royalroadweed wrote:
I guess that TL article that said Dream is the player most similar to Taeja went a little ahead of themselves. Pretty sure stuchiu said TaeJa is the most similar to Dream. Out of a selection of Maru, TaeJa and INnoVation. Imo Dream is a smarter INnoVation with some Maru flair in TvP
Dream is just Dream :/.
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On July 06 2015 02:57 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 02:56 Elentos wrote:On July 06 2015 02:55 royalroadweed wrote:
I guess that TL article that said Dream is the player most similar to Taeja went a little ahead of themselves. Pretty sure stuchiu said TaeJa is the most similar to Dream. Out of a selection of Maru, TaeJa and INnoVation. Imo Dream is a smarter INnoVation with some Maru flair in TvP
Not as smart as TaeJa, not as good at micro as Maru and not as crazy in macro as INnoVation, but a solid combination of the 3.
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Seriously ? Losing another reaper in such sloppy fashion ?
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Dream has been sloppy with his control.
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On July 06 2015 02:59 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 02:57 GumBa wrote:On July 06 2015 02:56 Elentos wrote:On July 06 2015 02:55 royalroadweed wrote:
I guess that TL article that said Dream is the player most similar to Taeja went a little ahead of themselves. Pretty sure stuchiu said TaeJa is the most similar to Dream. Out of a selection of Maru, TaeJa and INnoVation. Imo Dream is a smarter INnoVation with some Maru flair in TvP Not as smart as TaeJa, not as good at micro as Maru and not as crazy in macro as INnoVation, but a solid combination of the 3.
Not as good at Thordivacs as GuMiho
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What the hell was that Dream :D kill the queens
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They should let the winner of this play a Bo7 vs the one true Leifeng King
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On July 06 2015 02:59 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 02:57 GumBa wrote:On July 06 2015 02:56 Elentos wrote:On July 06 2015 02:55 royalroadweed wrote:
I guess that TL article that said Dream is the player most similar to Taeja went a little ahead of themselves. Pretty sure stuchiu said TaeJa is the most similar to Dream. Out of a selection of Maru, TaeJa and INnoVation. Imo Dream is a smarter INnoVation with some Maru flair in TvP Not as smart as TaeJa, not as good at micro as Maru and not as crazy in macro as INnoVation, but a solid combination of the 3.
best builds out of the 3 I think. His 3cc cloackless banshees or his reactored fac vP have switched slightly the meta of 2 match ups in 2015.
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On July 06 2015 02:59 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 02:57 GumBa wrote:On July 06 2015 02:56 Elentos wrote:On July 06 2015 02:55 royalroadweed wrote:
I guess that TL article that said Dream is the player most similar to Taeja went a little ahead of themselves. Pretty sure stuchiu said TaeJa is the most similar to Dream. Out of a selection of Maru, TaeJa and INnoVation. Imo Dream is a smarter INnoVation with some Maru flair in TvP Dream is just Dream :/.
Well yeah, but were just talking about TL comparing him.
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this matchup made me remember that king of kongs tournament GSL did
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On July 06 2015 03:00 royalroadweed wrote:
Dream has been sloppy with his control.
Its like 2:30/3am in Korea
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On July 06 2015 03:01 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 02:59 Elentos wrote:On July 06 2015 02:57 GumBa wrote:On July 06 2015 02:56 Elentos wrote:On July 06 2015 02:55 royalroadweed wrote:
I guess that TL article that said Dream is the player most similar to Taeja went a little ahead of themselves. Pretty sure stuchiu said TaeJa is the most similar to Dream. Out of a selection of Maru, TaeJa and INnoVation. Imo Dream is a smarter INnoVation with some Maru flair in TvP Not as smart as TaeJa, not as good at micro as Maru and not as crazy in macro as INnoVation, but a solid combination of the 3. best builds out of the 3 I think. His 3cc cloackless banshees or his reactored fac vP have switched slightly the meta of 2 match ups in 2015.
Yeah Dream is very smart and is just solid in all areas imo whereas other terrans are very extreme in a certain area.
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On July 06 2015 03:01 Inflicted wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 03:00 royalroadweed wrote:
Dream has been sloppy with his control. Its like 2:30/3am in Korea
and soO stole all the coffee for himself.
Whatever it takes.
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4 hellions 2 reapers is not a ratio you see every day.
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He's like the opposite of taeja. Great at preparation not that good at on the fly decision making.
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On July 06 2015 03:02 HellHound wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 03:01 Inflicted wrote:On July 06 2015 03:00 royalroadweed wrote:
Dream has been sloppy with his control. Its like 2:30/3am in Korea and soO stole all the coffee for himself. Whatever it takes.
They're nerds. The true creatures of the night
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On July 06 2015 03:02 HellHound wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 03:01 Inflicted wrote:On July 06 2015 03:00 royalroadweed wrote:
Dream has been sloppy with his control. Its like 2:30/3am in Korea and soO stole all the coffee for himself. Whatever it takes.
The hyung in the teamhouse bullying dream
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2 base muta 4 games in a row. Builds that are weak to 2 base muta 4 games in a row. Come on, Dream. You're better than this.
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I did almost nothing today but marvel at soO.
Worth.
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On July 06 2015 03:04 royalroadweed wrote:
2 base muta 4 games in a row. Builds that are weak to 2 base muta 4 games in a row. Come on, Dream. You're better than this.
Can it be a case of a "come on, you're not doing that build again" repeating itself ?
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Every time something weird happens Dream's macro slips. Had a lot of supply blocks this game already. Compare that to INnoVation.
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SOOOOOOOOJJJJJJWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAA
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United States97276 Posts
soo playing like a badass today
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
What an art.
Yay, soO <3
Avenged yourself for God damn Starleague.
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soO never ceased to impress today. Flawless run right ?
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On July 06 2015 03:05 Elentos wrote:
Every time something weird happens Dream's macro slips. Had a lot of supply blocks this game already. Compare that to INnoVation.
Kong curse
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I guess I should change my sig
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On July 06 2015 03:06 Heartland wrote:
bo3 finals?
bo3 and if Dream wins other bo3
but he didn't
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Makes me even sadder he couldn't play a decent game vs Dear...
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On July 06 2015 03:07 [PkF] Wire wrote:
soO never ceased to impress today. Flawless run right ?
12-0
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gratz soO!!!!!!!!!!! good job!!!!!
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On July 06 2015 03:10 GumBa wrote:
SKT going ham recently
Zoun wins GSL 2016 season 1.
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Needed Classic to reach the finals for soO to drop a map I guess.
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huh. kind of different prize pool distribution. $3000 (75%) to 1st, and then $500 to both 2nd and 3rd. Just different OSC points
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soO officially handing the kong baton over.
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Well the soO rage to win was real apparently. Too bad it happened in this and not in a GSL, now soO is condemned to be mediocre until he retires.
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On July 06 2015 04:32 OtherWorld wrote:
Well the soO rage to win was real apparently. Too bad it happened in this and not in a GSL, now soO is condemned to be mediocre until he retires.
hopefully it's a confidence boost for him and he goes on a tear. still 3000$ for 12 games in a day vs playing over weeks is pretty sweet.
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is there any chance of replays released?
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On July 06 2015 03:15 Shellshock wrote:
huh. kind of different prize pool distribution. $3000 (75%) to 1st, and then $500 to both 2nd and 3rd. Just different OSC points
Edison said the prize money spread will be more reasonable next time
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On July 07 2015 04:13 digmouse wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 03:15 Shellshock wrote:
huh. kind of different prize pool distribution. $3000 (75%) to 1st, and then $500 to both 2nd and 3rd. Just different OSC points Edison said the prize money spread will be more reasonable next time
Any date on when they're resuming daily cups?
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On July 07 2015 04:31 Inflicted wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 04:13 digmouse wrote:On July 06 2015 03:15 Shellshock wrote:
huh. kind of different prize pool distribution. $3000 (75%) to 1st, and then $500 to both 2nd and 3rd. Just different OSC points Edison said the prize money spread will be more reasonable next time Any date on when they're resuming daily cups?
Pretty soon I imagine, there is no WCS for a month.
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On July 06 2015 04:32 OtherWorld wrote:
Well the soO rage to win was real apparently. Too bad it happened in this and not in a GSL, now soO is condemned to be mediocre until he retires.
what was that?
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