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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
June 27 2015 23:04 GMT
#4741
On June 28 2015 08:04 ptbl wrote:
Ret scouts the nydus worm, but doesn't do anything about it. Ret sees 4 overlords with his mutas, but he doesn't kill them. He leaves a sizeable amount of zerglings and banelings near patraeus third, but doesn't do anything with them. I dunno guys...

He indeed didn't react
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 27 2015 23:05 GMT
#4742
even though Ret lost, TL managed a 9-3 record today after going 0-6 yesterday. 9-9 50% win rate for the whole weekend
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
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duckk
Profile Joined March 2013
United States622 Posts
June 27 2015 23:05 GMT
#4743
On June 28 2015 08:02 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2015 08:02 KristofferAG wrote:
Was looking so promising for Ret there

yeah... ZvZ specialists, which mistake(s) did Ret make here ?


should have went muta broodlord and kept baneling the third mineral line. Was a free win for ret. Muta into roach can be okay if you are not good at dodging fungals but muta into roach hydra that fast is horrible. Ret did play 3x better that game though.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
June 27 2015 23:05 GMT
#4744
On June 28 2015 08:05 Shellshock wrote:
even though Ret lost, TL managed a 9-3 record today after going 0-6 yesterday. 9-9 50% win rate for the whole weekend

Will improve drastically after Bunny runs away with the trophy.
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
June 27 2015 23:05 GMT
#4745
On June 28 2015 08:03 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2015 08:02 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On June 28 2015 08:02 KristofferAG wrote:
Was looking so promising for Ret there

yeah... ZvZ specialists, which mistake(s) did Ret make here ?


Didn't find the worm before it formed. That's really it. If you let the opponent get their queens across the map with this kind of push its over.

he could have kept his mutas alive longer and used them to snipe the nydus worms/harass out of position roaches as the queens walked down because petraeus had no spores with the attack, i guess he thought his only chance was to beat the queens straight up. ret can actually lose quite a bit there and still play out of it as long as he doesn't lose the third hatch i think
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17794 Posts
June 27 2015 23:07 GMT
#4746
i love watching guys who "pull the trigger" on an all-in at just the right time.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
June 27 2015 23:07 GMT
#4747
Jaedong vs Pattismithus was actually quite enjoyable yesterday, I have high expectations for that one.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46399 Posts
June 27 2015 23:07 GMT
#4748
Jaedong 2-0 now plzzzzzzzz
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
June 27 2015 23:07 GMT
#4749
On June 28 2015 08:05 duckk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2015 08:02 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On June 28 2015 08:02 KristofferAG wrote:
Was looking so promising for Ret there

yeah... ZvZ specialists, which mistake(s) did Ret make here ?


should have went muta broodlord and kept baneling the third mineral line. Was a free win for ret. Muta into roach can be okay if you are not good at dodging fungals but muta into roach hydra that fast is horrible. Ret did play 3x better that game though.

muta intro reasonably fast roach hydra is very good vs infestor roach, if you hit before the enemy gets a big roach hydra ball to support it. When the player playing against muta gets a 3rd up and saturated that fast, infestors and macro play is usually the most common transition
I'm a salt-lord and hater of mech and ForGG, don't take me seriously, it's just my salt-humour speaking i swear. |KadaverBB best TL gaoler| |~IdrA's #1 fan~| SetGuitarsToKill and Duckk are my martyr heroes |
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
June 27 2015 23:07 GMT
#4750
On June 28 2015 07:53 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2015 07:51 Rollora wrote:
On June 28 2015 07:48 Elentos wrote:
On June 28 2015 07:47 Rollora wrote:
On June 28 2015 07:42 KristofferAG wrote:
On June 28 2015 07:40 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
On June 28 2015 07:39 Ej_ wrote:
On June 28 2015 07:39 DJHelium wrote:
On June 28 2015 07:38 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On June 28 2015 07:37 Elentos wrote:
[quote]
Same. Reached plat not knowing how to patrolsplit marines. *shrug*

Goody reached GM not knowing what a marine is.


I played Goody once in an online tourney, ZvT in WoL.

He 2raxed me

have you seen the infamous Goody vs Nerchio on Shakuras?

a long time ago, but I forgot why it was infamous.

When bunker rushing, you should see the enemy base before placing your bunkers.

I never play ANY cheese so I wouldn't know.
However if you don't do that, it leads to very fun games (for the viewer).
I also remember cannon rushes like these

That means you're predictable and not creative™

Yep, that is mostly because I am dumb.
But also because I wanna win with skill and not luck. Feels more rewarding.
I doubt anyone can predict me on ladder anyways, besides, there are many different macro openers without cheese. Hint: I don't play toss

some cheeses will absolutely get you free wins based on your opponent not being prepared, no argument there, but if you don't think it can be difficult to execute and micro a cheese when your opponent is prepared you're mistaken

I know that bro. But on the other hand some are easier to execute then to defend
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
June 27 2015 23:08 GMT
#4751
On June 28 2015 07:53 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2015 07:51 Rollora wrote:
On June 28 2015 07:48 Elentos wrote:
On June 28 2015 07:47 Rollora wrote:
On June 28 2015 07:42 KristofferAG wrote:
On June 28 2015 07:40 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
On June 28 2015 07:39 Ej_ wrote:
On June 28 2015 07:39 DJHelium wrote:
On June 28 2015 07:38 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On June 28 2015 07:37 Elentos wrote:
[quote]
Same. Reached plat not knowing how to patrolsplit marines. *shrug*

Goody reached GM not knowing what a marine is.


I played Goody once in an online tourney, ZvT in WoL.

He 2raxed me

have you seen the infamous Goody vs Nerchio on Shakuras?

a long time ago, but I forgot why it was infamous.

When bunker rushing, you should see the enemy base before placing your bunkers.

I never play ANY cheese so I wouldn't know.
However if you don't do that, it leads to very fun games (for the viewer).
I also remember cannon rushes like these

That means you're predictable and not creative™

Yep, that is mostly because I am dumb.
But also because I wanna win with skill and not luck. Feels more rewarding.
I doubt anyone can predict me on ladder anyways, besides, there are many different macro openers without cheese. Hint: I don't play toss

Well you said many so you also don't play Terran.

Well there are many variations of Terran openers
Psychonian
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2322 Posts
June 27 2015 23:08 GMT
#4752
    (1855) Petraeus  0-0  Jaedong (2233)     
---------------------------------------------
11.35% 2-0 0-2 43.97%
15.05% 2-1 1-2 29.63%
---------------------------------------------
26.40% 73.60%

Median outcome: Petraeus 1-2 Jaedong

Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.
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brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
June 27 2015 23:08 GMT
#4753
On June 28 2015 08:07 Rollora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2015 07:53 brickrd wrote:
On June 28 2015 07:51 Rollora wrote:
On June 28 2015 07:48 Elentos wrote:
On June 28 2015 07:47 Rollora wrote:
On June 28 2015 07:42 KristofferAG wrote:
On June 28 2015 07:40 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
On June 28 2015 07:39 Ej_ wrote:
On June 28 2015 07:39 DJHelium wrote:
On June 28 2015 07:38 [PkF] Wire wrote:
[quote]
Goody reached GM not knowing what a marine is.


I played Goody once in an online tourney, ZvT in WoL.

He 2raxed me

have you seen the infamous Goody vs Nerchio on Shakuras?

a long time ago, but I forgot why it was infamous.

When bunker rushing, you should see the enemy base before placing your bunkers.

I never play ANY cheese so I wouldn't know.
However if you don't do that, it leads to very fun games (for the viewer).
I also remember cannon rushes like these

That means you're predictable and not creative™

Yep, that is mostly because I am dumb.
But also because I wanna win with skill and not luck. Feels more rewarding.
I doubt anyone can predict me on ladder anyways, besides, there are many different macro openers without cheese. Hint: I don't play toss

some cheeses will absolutely get you free wins based on your opponent not being prepared, no argument there, but if you don't think it can be difficult to execute and micro a cheese when your opponent is prepared you're mistaken

I know that bro. But on the other hand some are easier to execute then to defend

some macro styles are easier to defend than punish
TL+ Member
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17794 Posts
June 27 2015 23:08 GMT
#4754
On June 28 2015 08:04 ptbl wrote:
Ret scouts the nydus worm, but doesn't do anything about it. Ret sees 4 overlords with his mutas, but he doesn't kill them. He leaves a sizeable amount of zerglings and banelings near patraeus third, but doesn't do anything with them. I dunno guys...


which Blizzcon event did u win again?
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
June 27 2015 23:09 GMT
#4755
On June 28 2015 08:08 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2015 08:04 ptbl wrote:
Ret scouts the nydus worm, but doesn't do anything about it. Ret sees 4 overlords with his mutas, but he doesn't kill them. He leaves a sizeable amount of zerglings and banelings near patraeus third, but doesn't do anything with them. I dunno guys...


which Blizzcon event did u win again?

which blizzcon event did ret win
TL+ Member
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
June 27 2015 23:10 GMT
#4756
On June 28 2015 08:09 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2015 08:08 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On June 28 2015 08:04 ptbl wrote:
Ret scouts the nydus worm, but doesn't do anything about it. Ret sees 4 overlords with his mutas, but he doesn't kill them. He leaves a sizeable amount of zerglings and banelings near patraeus third, but doesn't do anything with them. I dunno guys...


which Blizzcon event did u win again?

which blizzcon event did ret win

he won my heart
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
June 27 2015 23:10 GMT
#4757
On June 28 2015 08:10 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2015 08:09 brickrd wrote:
On June 28 2015 08:08 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On June 28 2015 08:04 ptbl wrote:
Ret scouts the nydus worm, but doesn't do anything about it. Ret sees 4 overlords with his mutas, but he doesn't kill them. He leaves a sizeable amount of zerglings and banelings near patraeus third, but doesn't do anything with them. I dunno guys...


which Blizzcon event did u win again?

which blizzcon event did ret win

he won my heart

Blizzcon: Ej_'s Heart 2016
TL+ Member
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
June 27 2015 23:10 GMT
#4758
Who fancies Pelerindemmaüs chances here ?
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 27 2015 23:11 GMT
#4759
JD is going to crush. his record vs foreign zergs is solid
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
Psychonian
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2322 Posts
June 27 2015 23:11 GMT
#4760
On June 28 2015 08:10 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Who fancies Pelerindemmaüs chances here ?

not aligulac thats for sure lol
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