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Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14460 Posts
May 24 2015 00:14 GMT
#941
BEZAEHGUYZEAZEA


BEAVER
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D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
May 24 2015 00:15 GMT
#942
Violet...

Violet...

Dude...

Why...

?
why even
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
May 24 2015 00:15 GMT
#943
On May 24 2015 09:14 Alucen-Will- wrote:
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On May 24 2015 09:12 GumBa wrote:
On May 24 2015 09:11 Elentos wrote:
On May 24 2015 09:08 GumBa wrote:
On May 24 2015 09:06 Elentos wrote:
On May 24 2015 09:04 GumBa wrote:
On May 24 2015 09:03 Elentos wrote:
On May 24 2015 09:01 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On May 24 2015 09:00 GumBa wrote:
On May 24 2015 08:59 Alucen-Will- wrote:
[quote]

I'm looking forward to it too, I think Reality is a fairly solid Terran player

Meh Dreams TvT is so hit and mainly miss I am not that hyped. Hope SKT just 3-0 before that.


Still Dream beat Flash in that second Bo3 in GSL which was pretty impressive I think

That was luck more than anything, really. Flash won 3 of 5 games, he then gifted one to Dream by moving his entire air army out of position for a drop despite knowing Dream had to have a massive drop still close. Only one of 5 games where I'd say Dream was better and in the lead for the game.

Dream making less mistakes in the second bo3 isnt luck. His positioning and movement in g3 in bo3 no2 was very good and is what pulled Flashes army out of position.

No. I am talking about g1 of their rematch. On Iron Fortress. Flash was in a commanding position, way ahead. Then he moved out his vikings despite having spotted the doom drop. That was the lucky moment that turned it around. Otheriwise it would have been 4-0 for Flash. Who never even changed his build.

Ah ok. Lucky moments are parts of all sports though. I agree Flash overall has better TvT but his other two mu are srsly lacking compared to Dream so I am happy Dream got through in the end (and I am a fan lol) but I would like Flash to get back to his summer 2014 form and become more flexible.

Yeah sure, I have no problem with it and I like the kid. But Dream has to fix up his TvT ffs. It's enough for someone like SuperNova, but people like Maru or Flash are far out of his league despite not being that far superior as players overall.

FFS, SKT Sorry has better TvT than Dream and Sorry's not gonna reach a Starleague final any time soon.

Yeah it's crazy how someone so good can have such a bad mu lol. I mean everyone has a weak mu but Dreams is extreme compared to his other two.


To InnoVation's credit, I think he is actually one of the more innovative players. Unlike the popular caster reputation of calling him a robot, I think a deeper inspection on his play reveals a lot of intelligent build order choices and thought.
InnoVation's weakest point is his reliance (in big matches) on the very standard builds and a certain lack of decision making/ ability to handle pressure in big moments.

I wouln't really call Inno innovative but his builds are smart I agree. His playstyle is just inflexible but he has contributed some pretty good macro builds to the terran race imo.
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
kaykoose
Profile Joined February 2014
United States2302 Posts
May 24 2015 00:15 GMT
#944
gg
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
May 24 2015 00:15 GMT
#945
That looked like me engaging a tank line in BW...
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
May 24 2015 00:15 GMT
#946
On May 24 2015 09:14 OtherWorld wrote:
Guys, get real. FlaSh totally changed the metagame of Terran ceremonies in 2014.

Keen did that in 2011
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28481 Posts
May 24 2015 00:16 GMT
#947
today is foreigner day
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Keeemy
Profile Joined November 2012
Finland7855 Posts
May 24 2015 00:16 GMT
#948
Mech makes my blood boil. How anyone enjoys this shit is beyond me.
Hello
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
May 24 2015 00:16 GMT
#949
On May 24 2015 09:15 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2015 09:14 OtherWorld wrote:
Guys, get real. FlaSh totally changed the metagame of Terran ceremonies in 2014.

Keen did that in 2011

But did he kick a football with PartinG on it?!
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
May 24 2015 00:16 GMT
#950
On May 24 2015 09:11 Alucen-Will- wrote:
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On May 24 2015 09:10 stuchiu wrote:
There are no build I'd credit to Flash in SC2.


Aren't you the one who thinks that MKP and Flash play a similar style of TvZ?

I like you a lot Stuchio but for all the years of sc2 experience I expect a lot more game knowledge.


Here are all the builds that came out in HotS in terms of emtagme for Terran
:
TvZ: Hellbat Drops, MMMM Parade Push, Hellbat/Thor MMM push, and a multtidue of Mech variations

Then for TvP: Hellbat Drops, Polt Style Counter, Taeja style defense, scv pull, Mech, and the MMMM mass push/drop style.

No one can truly claim hellbat drops. It came out immiedately at the beginning and was used by everyone. Innovation is credited with MMMM push because his was the version everyone used. Taeja was the first played to use hellbta/thor MM push (though you can't really credit it to him since a lot of people have used it). Mech variations are harder to pinpoint since thinks that Supernova did became standard, but only after the various patches to hellions'hellbats.

TvP:Again Hellbat drops no one can claim. Polt/Taeja styles were their own. SCV Pull was made by Mvp. Inno/Bomber refined it. Mech was never successful enough that I'd call it a metagame. MMMM pushes were made by Maru (the earlier rendition of this was in his games vs Dear in 2013). Cure was the first to do the mass drop style of it that Maru later took to its natural extreme conclusion.
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GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
May 24 2015 00:16 GMT
#951
WILL THE TRICOLOR WAVE IN THE WINDS OF VICTORY?!
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Alucen-Will-
Profile Joined October 2014
United States4054 Posts
May 24 2015 00:16 GMT
#952
On May 24 2015 09:15 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2015 09:14 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On May 24 2015 09:12 GumBa wrote:
On May 24 2015 09:11 Elentos wrote:
On May 24 2015 09:08 GumBa wrote:
On May 24 2015 09:06 Elentos wrote:
On May 24 2015 09:04 GumBa wrote:
On May 24 2015 09:03 Elentos wrote:
On May 24 2015 09:01 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On May 24 2015 09:00 GumBa wrote:
[quote]
Meh Dreams TvT is so hit and mainly miss I am not that hyped. Hope SKT just 3-0 before that.


Still Dream beat Flash in that second Bo3 in GSL which was pretty impressive I think

That was luck more than anything, really. Flash won 3 of 5 games, he then gifted one to Dream by moving his entire air army out of position for a drop despite knowing Dream had to have a massive drop still close. Only one of 5 games where I'd say Dream was better and in the lead for the game.

Dream making less mistakes in the second bo3 isnt luck. His positioning and movement in g3 in bo3 no2 was very good and is what pulled Flashes army out of position.

No. I am talking about g1 of their rematch. On Iron Fortress. Flash was in a commanding position, way ahead. Then he moved out his vikings despite having spotted the doom drop. That was the lucky moment that turned it around. Otheriwise it would have been 4-0 for Flash. Who never even changed his build.

Ah ok. Lucky moments are parts of all sports though. I agree Flash overall has better TvT but his other two mu are srsly lacking compared to Dream so I am happy Dream got through in the end (and I am a fan lol) but I would like Flash to get back to his summer 2014 form and become more flexible.

Yeah sure, I have no problem with it and I like the kid. But Dream has to fix up his TvT ffs. It's enough for someone like SuperNova, but people like Maru or Flash are far out of his league despite not being that far superior as players overall.

FFS, SKT Sorry has better TvT than Dream and Sorry's not gonna reach a Starleague final any time soon.

Yeah it's crazy how someone so good can have such a bad mu lol. I mean everyone has a weak mu but Dreams is extreme compared to his other two.


To InnoVation's credit, I think he is actually one of the more innovative players. Unlike the popular caster reputation of calling him a robot, I think a deeper inspection on his play reveals a lot of intelligent build order choices and thought.
InnoVation's weakest point is his reliance (in big matches) on the very standard builds and a certain lack of decision making/ ability to handle pressure in big moments.

I wouln't really call Inno innovative but his builds are smart I agree. His playstyle is just inflexible but he has contributed some pretty good macro builds to the terran race imo.


Certainly. And in many ways the most successful players by default also by default contribute the the general metagame (InnoVation is a good example of this. DRG also comes to mind).

I think InnoVation does however lack a lot of intuition in games themselves and he seems to struggle with nerves in the biggest moments.
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
May 24 2015 00:16 GMT
#953
Violet is making Ultras without massing Queens and Infestors, he has lost already.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
May 24 2015 00:17 GMT
#954
On May 24 2015 09:16 Keeemy wrote:
Mech makes my blood boil. How anyone enjoys this shit is beyond me.

Old Swarm Hosts were awful, Mech is great lol.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
May 24 2015 00:18 GMT
#955
On May 24 2015 09:15 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2015 09:14 OtherWorld wrote:
Guys, get real. FlaSh totally changed the metagame of Terran ceremonies in 2014.

Keen did that in 2011

That ball though
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Alchemik
Profile Joined March 2014
Poland7124 Posts
May 24 2015 00:18 GMT
#956
On May 24 2015 09:17 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2015 09:16 Keeemy wrote:
Mech makes my blood boil. How anyone enjoys this shit is beyond me.

Old Swarm Hosts were awful, Mech is great lol.

are you fo'real
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
May 24 2015 00:18 GMT
#957
On May 24 2015 09:18 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2015 09:15 GumBa wrote:
On May 24 2015 09:14 OtherWorld wrote:
Guys, get real. FlaSh totally changed the metagame of Terran ceremonies in 2014.

Keen did that in 2011

That ball though

Keens victory gif made the hot page on 9gag. Went mainstream man.
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14460 Posts
May 24 2015 00:18 GMT
#958
Defend defend defend defend then attack and kill him
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Fuell
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands3111 Posts
May 24 2015 00:18 GMT
#959
damn this has been a pretty long day, i took a nap and its still on
fOu/Zenith/NEX/WeRRa/SlayerS
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
May 24 2015 00:19 GMT
#960
On May 24 2015 09:18 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2015 09:15 GumBa wrote:
On May 24 2015 09:14 OtherWorld wrote:
Guys, get real. FlaSh totally changed the metagame of Terran ceremonies in 2014.

Keen did that in 2011

That ball though

Heard Terrans need big balls to beat PartinG, so he brought a football.
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