• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 07:13
CET 13:13
KST 21:13
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT25Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book19Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8
Community News
Weekly Cups (Feb 16-22): MaxPax doubles0Weekly Cups (Feb 9-15): herO doubles up2ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/0241LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16)46Weekly Cups (Feb 2-8): Classic, Solar, MaxPax win2
StarCraft 2
General
Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book Weekly Cups (Feb 16-22): MaxPax doubles How do you think the 5.0.15 balance patch (Oct 2025) for StarCraft II has affected the game? ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT Liquipedia WCS Portal Launched
Tourneys
Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) How do the "codes" work in GSL?
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ? [A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 514 Ulnar New Year The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 513 Attrition Warfare Mutation # 512 Overclocked
Brood War
General
TvZ is the most complete match up CasterMuse Youtube A cwal.gg Extension - Easily keep track of anyone A new season just kicks off Recent recommended BW games
Tourneys
Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 1 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [LIVE] [S:21] ASL Season Open Day 1 Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread New broswer game : STG-World Diablo 2 thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Mexico's Drug War Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Ask and answer stupid questions here!
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread TL MMA Pick'em Pool 2013
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Inside the Communication of …
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1462 users

[WCS] Premier Ro32 Group C - Season 2 2015 - Page 48

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 46 47 48 49 50 57 Next
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14461 Posts
May 24 2015 00:14 GMT
#941
BEZAEHGUYZEAZEA


BEAVER
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
May 24 2015 00:15 GMT
#942
Violet...

Violet...

Dude...

Why...

?
why even
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
May 24 2015 00:15 GMT
#943
On May 24 2015 09:14 Alucen-Will- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2015 09:12 GumBa wrote:
On May 24 2015 09:11 Elentos wrote:
On May 24 2015 09:08 GumBa wrote:
On May 24 2015 09:06 Elentos wrote:
On May 24 2015 09:04 GumBa wrote:
On May 24 2015 09:03 Elentos wrote:
On May 24 2015 09:01 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On May 24 2015 09:00 GumBa wrote:
On May 24 2015 08:59 Alucen-Will- wrote:
[quote]

I'm looking forward to it too, I think Reality is a fairly solid Terran player

Meh Dreams TvT is so hit and mainly miss I am not that hyped. Hope SKT just 3-0 before that.


Still Dream beat Flash in that second Bo3 in GSL which was pretty impressive I think

That was luck more than anything, really. Flash won 3 of 5 games, he then gifted one to Dream by moving his entire air army out of position for a drop despite knowing Dream had to have a massive drop still close. Only one of 5 games where I'd say Dream was better and in the lead for the game.

Dream making less mistakes in the second bo3 isnt luck. His positioning and movement in g3 in bo3 no2 was very good and is what pulled Flashes army out of position.

No. I am talking about g1 of their rematch. On Iron Fortress. Flash was in a commanding position, way ahead. Then he moved out his vikings despite having spotted the doom drop. That was the lucky moment that turned it around. Otheriwise it would have been 4-0 for Flash. Who never even changed his build.

Ah ok. Lucky moments are parts of all sports though. I agree Flash overall has better TvT but his other two mu are srsly lacking compared to Dream so I am happy Dream got through in the end (and I am a fan lol) but I would like Flash to get back to his summer 2014 form and become more flexible.

Yeah sure, I have no problem with it and I like the kid. But Dream has to fix up his TvT ffs. It's enough for someone like SuperNova, but people like Maru or Flash are far out of his league despite not being that far superior as players overall.

FFS, SKT Sorry has better TvT than Dream and Sorry's not gonna reach a Starleague final any time soon.

Yeah it's crazy how someone so good can have such a bad mu lol. I mean everyone has a weak mu but Dreams is extreme compared to his other two.


To InnoVation's credit, I think he is actually one of the more innovative players. Unlike the popular caster reputation of calling him a robot, I think a deeper inspection on his play reveals a lot of intelligent build order choices and thought.
InnoVation's weakest point is his reliance (in big matches) on the very standard builds and a certain lack of decision making/ ability to handle pressure in big moments.

I wouln't really call Inno innovative but his builds are smart I agree. His playstyle is just inflexible but he has contributed some pretty good macro builds to the terran race imo.
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
kaykoose
Profile Joined February 2014
United States2302 Posts
May 24 2015 00:15 GMT
#944
gg
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
May 24 2015 00:15 GMT
#945
That looked like me engaging a tank line in BW...
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
May 24 2015 00:15 GMT
#946
On May 24 2015 09:14 OtherWorld wrote:
Guys, get real. FlaSh totally changed the metagame of Terran ceremonies in 2014.

Keen did that in 2011
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
May 24 2015 00:16 GMT
#947
today is foreigner day
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Keeemy
Profile Joined November 2012
Finland7855 Posts
May 24 2015 00:16 GMT
#948
Mech makes my blood boil. How anyone enjoys this shit is beyond me.
Hello
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
May 24 2015 00:16 GMT
#949
On May 24 2015 09:15 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2015 09:14 OtherWorld wrote:
Guys, get real. FlaSh totally changed the metagame of Terran ceremonies in 2014.

Keen did that in 2011

But did he kick a football with PartinG on it?!
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
May 24 2015 00:16 GMT
#950
On May 24 2015 09:11 Alucen-Will- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2015 09:10 stuchiu wrote:
There are no build I'd credit to Flash in SC2.


Aren't you the one who thinks that MKP and Flash play a similar style of TvZ?

I like you a lot Stuchio but for all the years of sc2 experience I expect a lot more game knowledge.


Here are all the builds that came out in HotS in terms of emtagme for Terran
:
TvZ: Hellbat Drops, MMMM Parade Push, Hellbat/Thor MMM push, and a multtidue of Mech variations

Then for TvP: Hellbat Drops, Polt Style Counter, Taeja style defense, scv pull, Mech, and the MMMM mass push/drop style.

No one can truly claim hellbat drops. It came out immiedately at the beginning and was used by everyone. Innovation is credited with MMMM push because his was the version everyone used. Taeja was the first played to use hellbta/thor MM push (though you can't really credit it to him since a lot of people have used it). Mech variations are harder to pinpoint since thinks that Supernova did became standard, but only after the various patches to hellions'hellbats.

TvP:Again Hellbat drops no one can claim. Polt/Taeja styles were their own. SCV Pull was made by Mvp. Inno/Bomber refined it. Mech was never successful enough that I'd call it a metagame. MMMM pushes were made by Maru (the earlier rendition of this was in his games vs Dear in 2013). Cure was the first to do the mass drop style of it that Maru later took to its natural extreme conclusion.
Moderator
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
May 24 2015 00:16 GMT
#951
WILL THE TRICOLOR WAVE IN THE WINDS OF VICTORY?!
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Alucen-Will-
Profile Joined October 2014
United States4054 Posts
May 24 2015 00:16 GMT
#952
On May 24 2015 09:15 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2015 09:14 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On May 24 2015 09:12 GumBa wrote:
On May 24 2015 09:11 Elentos wrote:
On May 24 2015 09:08 GumBa wrote:
On May 24 2015 09:06 Elentos wrote:
On May 24 2015 09:04 GumBa wrote:
On May 24 2015 09:03 Elentos wrote:
On May 24 2015 09:01 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On May 24 2015 09:00 GumBa wrote:
[quote]
Meh Dreams TvT is so hit and mainly miss I am not that hyped. Hope SKT just 3-0 before that.


Still Dream beat Flash in that second Bo3 in GSL which was pretty impressive I think

That was luck more than anything, really. Flash won 3 of 5 games, he then gifted one to Dream by moving his entire air army out of position for a drop despite knowing Dream had to have a massive drop still close. Only one of 5 games where I'd say Dream was better and in the lead for the game.

Dream making less mistakes in the second bo3 isnt luck. His positioning and movement in g3 in bo3 no2 was very good and is what pulled Flashes army out of position.

No. I am talking about g1 of their rematch. On Iron Fortress. Flash was in a commanding position, way ahead. Then he moved out his vikings despite having spotted the doom drop. That was the lucky moment that turned it around. Otheriwise it would have been 4-0 for Flash. Who never even changed his build.

Ah ok. Lucky moments are parts of all sports though. I agree Flash overall has better TvT but his other two mu are srsly lacking compared to Dream so I am happy Dream got through in the end (and I am a fan lol) but I would like Flash to get back to his summer 2014 form and become more flexible.

Yeah sure, I have no problem with it and I like the kid. But Dream has to fix up his TvT ffs. It's enough for someone like SuperNova, but people like Maru or Flash are far out of his league despite not being that far superior as players overall.

FFS, SKT Sorry has better TvT than Dream and Sorry's not gonna reach a Starleague final any time soon.

Yeah it's crazy how someone so good can have such a bad mu lol. I mean everyone has a weak mu but Dreams is extreme compared to his other two.


To InnoVation's credit, I think he is actually one of the more innovative players. Unlike the popular caster reputation of calling him a robot, I think a deeper inspection on his play reveals a lot of intelligent build order choices and thought.
InnoVation's weakest point is his reliance (in big matches) on the very standard builds and a certain lack of decision making/ ability to handle pressure in big moments.

I wouln't really call Inno innovative but his builds are smart I agree. His playstyle is just inflexible but he has contributed some pretty good macro builds to the terran race imo.


Certainly. And in many ways the most successful players by default also by default contribute the the general metagame (InnoVation is a good example of this. DRG also comes to mind).

I think InnoVation does however lack a lot of intuition in games themselves and he seems to struggle with nerves in the biggest moments.
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
May 24 2015 00:16 GMT
#953
Violet is making Ultras without massing Queens and Infestors, he has lost already.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
May 24 2015 00:17 GMT
#954
On May 24 2015 09:16 Keeemy wrote:
Mech makes my blood boil. How anyone enjoys this shit is beyond me.

Old Swarm Hosts were awful, Mech is great lol.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
May 24 2015 00:18 GMT
#955
On May 24 2015 09:15 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2015 09:14 OtherWorld wrote:
Guys, get real. FlaSh totally changed the metagame of Terran ceremonies in 2014.

Keen did that in 2011

That ball though
Used Sigs - New Sigs - Cheap Sigs - Buy the Best Cheap Sig near You at www.cheapsigforsale.com
Alchemik
Profile Joined March 2014
Poland7124 Posts
May 24 2015 00:18 GMT
#956
On May 24 2015 09:17 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2015 09:16 Keeemy wrote:
Mech makes my blood boil. How anyone enjoys this shit is beyond me.

Old Swarm Hosts were awful, Mech is great lol.

are you fo'real
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
May 24 2015 00:18 GMT
#957
On May 24 2015 09:18 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2015 09:15 GumBa wrote:
On May 24 2015 09:14 OtherWorld wrote:
Guys, get real. FlaSh totally changed the metagame of Terran ceremonies in 2014.

Keen did that in 2011

That ball though

Keens victory gif made the hot page on 9gag. Went mainstream man.
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14461 Posts
May 24 2015 00:18 GMT
#958
Defend defend defend defend then attack and kill him
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
Fuell
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands3111 Posts
May 24 2015 00:18 GMT
#959
damn this has been a pretty long day, i took a nap and its still on
fOu/Zenith/NEX/WeRRa/SlayerS
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
May 24 2015 00:19 GMT
#960
On May 24 2015 09:18 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2015 09:15 GumBa wrote:
On May 24 2015 09:14 OtherWorld wrote:
Guys, get real. FlaSh totally changed the metagame of Terran ceremonies in 2014.

Keen did that in 2011

That ball though

Heard Terrans need big balls to beat PartinG, so he brought a football.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Prev 1 46 47 48 49 50 57 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Winter Champion…
12:00
Group C
WardiTV265
IndyStarCraft 34
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SortOf 249
ProTech126
Lowko52
IndyStarCraft 34
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 38306
Rain 7297
Horang2 4122
Jaedong 2214
firebathero 466
Rush 213
hero 158
Killer 112
ToSsGirL 84
[sc1f]eonzerg 29
[ Show more ]
Hm[arnc] 26
Icarus 16
Noble 16
sorry 15
Terrorterran 7
NotJumperer 6
Dota 2
Fuzer 191
NeuroSwarm91
canceldota64
XcaliburYe50
Counter-Strike
olofmeister2383
zeus1100
x6flipin474
allub287
edward134
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King106
Other Games
Liquid`RaSZi1042
B2W.Neo640
XaKoH 199
crisheroes172
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL1181
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 3
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV109
League of Legends
• Stunt815
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
20h 47m
CasterMuse Showmatch
20h 47m
Light vs Queen
WardiTV Winter Champion…
23h 47m
The PondCast
1d 21h
Replay Cast
2 days
Korean StarCraft League
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
SC Evo Complete
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
[ Show More ]
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Wardi Open
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-02-22
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Acropolis #4 - TS5
Jeongseon Sooper Cup
Spring Cup 2026
WardiTV Winter 2026
PiG Sty Festival 7.0
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025

Upcoming

[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round Qualifier
Acropolis #4 - TS6
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
FISSURE Playground #3
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.