On May 24 2015 08:46 Alchemik wrote:
yeah vs 8/8/8 it's obviously a great spot for Zerg, I meant 2 rax
yeah vs 8/8/8 it's obviously a great spot for Zerg, I meant 2 rax
Still any fairly early pool against 2 rax is great in almost any position aswell
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Alucen-Will-
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On May 24 2015 08:46 Alchemik wrote: Show nested quote + On May 24 2015 08:45 Alucen-Will- wrote: On May 24 2015 08:44 Alchemik wrote: On May 24 2015 08:43 Alucen-Will- wrote: On May 24 2015 08:41 Alchemik wrote: On May 24 2015 08:36 Alucen-Will- wrote: On May 24 2015 08:35 Elentos wrote: On May 24 2015 08:33 Alucen-Will- wrote: 13 Pool, this is something that Hyun/Dark like to do sometimes Isn't 13-pool every game Firecake plays? Yeah but he's kind of a special case. 13 pool is a very interesting opening because it basically eliminates any possibility of 2 rax or 8/8/8 and it allows you to deny any kind of reaper aggression. as much as it makes no sense, 13 pool is actually worse vs 2 rax than 14 pool It's still great though lol. It also gives a faster timing against 8/8/8 and makes your 6 ling response to deny the natural cc faster. it's great if the Terran doesn't know it's 12 or 13 pool Going pool first 8/8/8 anyway is almost always a great position for the zerg as it is. The difference between 13/14/15 is fairly minimal in the practical effect of defending the strategy yeah vs 8/8/8 it's obviously a great spot for Zerg, I meant 2 rax Still any fairly early pool against 2 rax is great in almost any position aswell | ||
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On May 24 2015 08:47 Alucen-Will- wrote: Show nested quote + On May 24 2015 08:46 Alchemik wrote: On May 24 2015 08:45 Alucen-Will- wrote: On May 24 2015 08:44 Alchemik wrote: On May 24 2015 08:43 Alucen-Will- wrote: On May 24 2015 08:41 Alchemik wrote: On May 24 2015 08:36 Alucen-Will- wrote: On May 24 2015 08:35 Elentos wrote: On May 24 2015 08:33 Alucen-Will- wrote: 13 Pool, this is something that Hyun/Dark like to do sometimes Isn't 13-pool every game Firecake plays? Yeah but he's kind of a special case. 13 pool is a very interesting opening because it basically eliminates any possibility of 2 rax or 8/8/8 and it allows you to deny any kind of reaper aggression. as much as it makes no sense, 13 pool is actually worse vs 2 rax than 14 pool It's still great though lol. It also gives a faster timing against 8/8/8 and makes your 6 ling response to deny the natural cc faster. it's great if the Terran doesn't know it's 12 or 13 pool Going pool first 8/8/8 anyway is almost always a great position for the zerg as it is. The difference between 13/14/15 is fairly minimal in the practical effect of defending the strategy yeah vs 8/8/8 it's obviously a great spot for Zerg, I meant 2 rax Still any fairly early pool against 2 rax is great in almost any position aswell I remember thinking that 10 pool is a counter to 2 rax, then I was told by a bunch of Terrans and Zergs that it's the opposite ;; and then I was sure 13 pool 6 ling opening is the complete counter to 2 rax, then Demuslim told me off. idk what to believe in anymore | ||
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KingofdaHipHop
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GumBa
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On May 24 2015 08:48 Alchemik wrote: Show nested quote + On May 24 2015 08:47 Alucen-Will- wrote: On May 24 2015 08:46 Alchemik wrote: On May 24 2015 08:45 Alucen-Will- wrote: On May 24 2015 08:44 Alchemik wrote: On May 24 2015 08:43 Alucen-Will- wrote: On May 24 2015 08:41 Alchemik wrote: On May 24 2015 08:36 Alucen-Will- wrote: On May 24 2015 08:35 Elentos wrote: On May 24 2015 08:33 Alucen-Will- wrote: 13 Pool, this is something that Hyun/Dark like to do sometimes Isn't 13-pool every game Firecake plays? Yeah but he's kind of a special case. 13 pool is a very interesting opening because it basically eliminates any possibility of 2 rax or 8/8/8 and it allows you to deny any kind of reaper aggression. as much as it makes no sense, 13 pool is actually worse vs 2 rax than 14 pool It's still great though lol. It also gives a faster timing against 8/8/8 and makes your 6 ling response to deny the natural cc faster. it's great if the Terran doesn't know it's 12 or 13 pool Going pool first 8/8/8 anyway is almost always a great position for the zerg as it is. The difference between 13/14/15 is fairly minimal in the practical effect of defending the strategy yeah vs 8/8/8 it's obviously a great spot for Zerg, I meant 2 rax Still any fairly early pool against 2 rax is great in almost any position aswell I remember thinking that 10 pool is a counter to 2 rax, then I was told by a bunch of Terrans and Zergs that it's the opposite ;; and then I was sure 13 pool 6 ling opening is the complete counter to 2 rax, then Demuslim told me off. idk what to believe in anymore There is no counter to 2rax. Best T build since 1998. | ||
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OtherWorld
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On May 24 2015 08:48 Alchemik wrote: Show nested quote + On May 24 2015 08:47 Alucen-Will- wrote: On May 24 2015 08:46 Alchemik wrote: On May 24 2015 08:45 Alucen-Will- wrote: On May 24 2015 08:44 Alchemik wrote: On May 24 2015 08:43 Alucen-Will- wrote: On May 24 2015 08:41 Alchemik wrote: On May 24 2015 08:36 Alucen-Will- wrote: On May 24 2015 08:35 Elentos wrote: On May 24 2015 08:33 Alucen-Will- wrote: 13 Pool, this is something that Hyun/Dark like to do sometimes Isn't 13-pool every game Firecake plays? Yeah but he's kind of a special case. 13 pool is a very interesting opening because it basically eliminates any possibility of 2 rax or 8/8/8 and it allows you to deny any kind of reaper aggression. as much as it makes no sense, 13 pool is actually worse vs 2 rax than 14 pool It's still great though lol. It also gives a faster timing against 8/8/8 and makes your 6 ling response to deny the natural cc faster. it's great if the Terran doesn't know it's 12 or 13 pool Going pool first 8/8/8 anyway is almost always a great position for the zerg as it is. The difference between 13/14/15 is fairly minimal in the practical effect of defending the strategy yeah vs 8/8/8 it's obviously a great spot for Zerg, I meant 2 rax Still any fairly early pool against 2 rax is great in almost any position aswell I remember thinking that 10 pool is a counter to 2 rax, then I was told by a bunch of Terrans and Zergs that it's the opposite ;; and then I was sure 13 pool 6 ling opening is the complete counter to 2 rax, then Demuslim told me off. idk what to believe in anymore 15 hatch with 10 scout is the counter to 2rax | ||
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On May 24 2015 08:48 Alchemik wrote: Show nested quote + On May 24 2015 08:47 Alucen-Will- wrote: On May 24 2015 08:46 Alchemik wrote: On May 24 2015 08:45 Alucen-Will- wrote: On May 24 2015 08:44 Alchemik wrote: On May 24 2015 08:43 Alucen-Will- wrote: On May 24 2015 08:41 Alchemik wrote: On May 24 2015 08:36 Alucen-Will- wrote: On May 24 2015 08:35 Elentos wrote: On May 24 2015 08:33 Alucen-Will- wrote: 13 Pool, this is something that Hyun/Dark like to do sometimes Isn't 13-pool every game Firecake plays? Yeah but he's kind of a special case. 13 pool is a very interesting opening because it basically eliminates any possibility of 2 rax or 8/8/8 and it allows you to deny any kind of reaper aggression. as much as it makes no sense, 13 pool is actually worse vs 2 rax than 14 pool It's still great though lol. It also gives a faster timing against 8/8/8 and makes your 6 ling response to deny the natural cc faster. it's great if the Terran doesn't know it's 12 or 13 pool Going pool first 8/8/8 anyway is almost always a great position for the zerg as it is. The difference between 13/14/15 is fairly minimal in the practical effect of defending the strategy yeah vs 8/8/8 it's obviously a great spot for Zerg, I meant 2 rax Still any fairly early pool against 2 rax is great in almost any position aswell I remember thinking that 10 pool is a counter to 2 rax, then I was told by a bunch of Terrans and Zergs that it's the opposite ;; and then I was sure 13 pool 6 ling opening is the complete counter to 2 rax, then Demuslim told me off. idk what to believe in anymore Well Demuslim would know a thing or two about 2-raxes... | ||
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Alchemik
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On May 24 2015 08:49 OtherWorld wrote: Show nested quote + On May 24 2015 08:48 Alchemik wrote: On May 24 2015 08:47 Alucen-Will- wrote: On May 24 2015 08:46 Alchemik wrote: On May 24 2015 08:45 Alucen-Will- wrote: On May 24 2015 08:44 Alchemik wrote: On May 24 2015 08:43 Alucen-Will- wrote: On May 24 2015 08:41 Alchemik wrote: On May 24 2015 08:36 Alucen-Will- wrote: On May 24 2015 08:35 Elentos wrote: [quote] Isn't 13-pool every game Firecake plays? Yeah but he's kind of a special case. 13 pool is a very interesting opening because it basically eliminates any possibility of 2 rax or 8/8/8 and it allows you to deny any kind of reaper aggression. as much as it makes no sense, 13 pool is actually worse vs 2 rax than 14 pool It's still great though lol. It also gives a faster timing against 8/8/8 and makes your 6 ling response to deny the natural cc faster. it's great if the Terran doesn't know it's 12 or 13 pool Going pool first 8/8/8 anyway is almost always a great position for the zerg as it is. The difference between 13/14/15 is fairly minimal in the practical effect of defending the strategy yeah vs 8/8/8 it's obviously a great spot for Zerg, I meant 2 rax Still any fairly early pool against 2 rax is great in almost any position aswell I remember thinking that 10 pool is a counter to 2 rax, then I was told by a bunch of Terrans and Zergs that it's the opposite ;; and then I was sure 13 pool 6 ling opening is the complete counter to 2 rax, then Demuslim told me off. idk what to believe in anymore 15 hatch with 10 scout is the counter to 2rax why would you go 15 hatch after 10 scout? On May 24 2015 08:50 Elentos wrote: Show nested quote + On May 24 2015 08:48 Alchemik wrote: On May 24 2015 08:47 Alucen-Will- wrote: On May 24 2015 08:46 Alchemik wrote: On May 24 2015 08:45 Alucen-Will- wrote: On May 24 2015 08:44 Alchemik wrote: On May 24 2015 08:43 Alucen-Will- wrote: On May 24 2015 08:41 Alchemik wrote: On May 24 2015 08:36 Alucen-Will- wrote: On May 24 2015 08:35 Elentos wrote: [quote] Isn't 13-pool every game Firecake plays? Yeah but he's kind of a special case. 13 pool is a very interesting opening because it basically eliminates any possibility of 2 rax or 8/8/8 and it allows you to deny any kind of reaper aggression. as much as it makes no sense, 13 pool is actually worse vs 2 rax than 14 pool It's still great though lol. It also gives a faster timing against 8/8/8 and makes your 6 ling response to deny the natural cc faster. it's great if the Terran doesn't know it's 12 or 13 pool Going pool first 8/8/8 anyway is almost always a great position for the zerg as it is. The difference between 13/14/15 is fairly minimal in the practical effect of defending the strategy yeah vs 8/8/8 it's obviously a great spot for Zerg, I meant 2 rax Still any fairly early pool against 2 rax is great in almost any position aswell I remember thinking that 10 pool is a counter to 2 rax, then I was told by a bunch of Terrans and Zergs that it's the opposite ;; and then I was sure 13 pool 6 ling opening is the complete counter to 2 rax, then Demuslim told me off. idk what to believe in anymore Well Demuslim would know a thing or two about 2-raxes... yeah that's why I trust him | ||
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stuchiu
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On May 24 2015 08:44 GumBa wrote: This LR is making me cry D: glad I didn't make that comment about Inno that I was thinking about. | ||
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https://youtu.be/9s_iEFX-75Q | ||
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GumBa
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On May 24 2015 08:51 stuchiu wrote: glad I didn't make that comment about Inno that I was thinking about. hit me | ||
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On May 24 2015 08:51 Alucen-Will- wrote: BC transition is a much weaker transition than raven/viking/thor/tank. https://youtu.be/9s_iEFX-75Q all I know is that as a Zerg BC/Raven/Viking is scarier than Raven/Viking you also need BC's vs some armies | ||
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I mean, it's so much supply for a terrain bypassing uber attack? Why couldn't they do something like make the cool down half in exchange for half the Locust power? Ugh this unit is just so bad to watch/play against/play with T__T | ||
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