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GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
April 25 2015 12:44 GMT
#1441
On April 25 2015 21:43 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2015 21:36 GumBa wrote:
On April 25 2015 21:35 royalroadweed wrote:
On April 25 2015 21:35 Alucen-Will- wrote:
There are probably no coaches better in esports than coach park

I would have said Ryu Won before KT's awful performance this year.

Oov-Fantasy in BW


fantasy did a lot better after Oov went to the military.

Dont destroy my father son dreams man.
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18724 Posts
April 25 2015 12:45 GMT
#1442
On April 25 2015 21:44 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2015 21:43 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On April 25 2015 21:36 GumBa wrote:
On April 25 2015 21:35 royalroadweed wrote:
On April 25 2015 21:35 Alucen-Will- wrote:
There are probably no coaches better in esports than coach park

I would have said Ryu Won before KT's awful performance this year.

Oov-Fantasy in BW


fantasy did a lot better after Oov went to the military.

Dont destroy my father son dreams man.


Boxer oov will forever be the best father son dreams!
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
April 25 2015 12:45 GMT
#1443
On April 25 2015 21:45 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2015 21:44 GumBa wrote:
On April 25 2015 21:43 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On April 25 2015 21:36 GumBa wrote:
On April 25 2015 21:35 royalroadweed wrote:
On April 25 2015 21:35 Alucen-Will- wrote:
There are probably no coaches better in esports than coach park

I would have said Ryu Won before KT's awful performance this year.

Oov-Fantasy in BW


fantasy did a lot better after Oov went to the military.

Dont destroy my father son dreams man.


Boxer oov will forever be the best father son dreams!

That was more big bro lil bro for me. Those tears in OSL man T_T
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18724 Posts
April 25 2015 12:48 GMT
#1444
On April 25 2015 21:45 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2015 21:45 sharkie wrote:
On April 25 2015 21:44 GumBa wrote:
On April 25 2015 21:43 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On April 25 2015 21:36 GumBa wrote:
On April 25 2015 21:35 royalroadweed wrote:
On April 25 2015 21:35 Alucen-Will- wrote:
There are probably no coaches better in esports than coach park

I would have said Ryu Won before KT's awful performance this year.

Oov-Fantasy in BW


fantasy did a lot better after Oov went to the military.

Dont destroy my father son dreams man.


Boxer oov will forever be the best father son dreams!

That was more big bro lil bro for me. Those tears in OSL man T_T


The oov Boxer OSL final? damn...
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51122 Posts
April 25 2015 12:48 GMT
#1445
On April 25 2015 21:45 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2015 21:45 sharkie wrote:
On April 25 2015 21:44 GumBa wrote:
On April 25 2015 21:43 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On April 25 2015 21:36 GumBa wrote:
On April 25 2015 21:35 royalroadweed wrote:
On April 25 2015 21:35 Alucen-Will- wrote:
There are probably no coaches better in esports than coach park

I would have said Ryu Won before KT's awful performance this year.

Oov-Fantasy in BW


fantasy did a lot better after Oov went to the military.

Dont destroy my father son dreams man.


Boxer oov will forever be the best father son dreams!

That was more big bro lil bro for me. Those tears in OSL man T_T


can you believe that was 11 years ago
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-25 12:50:03
April 25 2015 12:49 GMT
#1446
On April 25 2015 21:48 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2015 21:45 GumBa wrote:
On April 25 2015 21:45 sharkie wrote:
On April 25 2015 21:44 GumBa wrote:
On April 25 2015 21:43 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On April 25 2015 21:36 GumBa wrote:
On April 25 2015 21:35 royalroadweed wrote:
On April 25 2015 21:35 Alucen-Will- wrote:
There are probably no coaches better in esports than coach park

I would have said Ryu Won before KT's awful performance this year.

Oov-Fantasy in BW


fantasy did a lot better after Oov went to the military.

Dont destroy my father son dreams man.


Boxer oov will forever be the best father son dreams!

That was more big bro lil bro for me. Those tears in OSL man T_T


can you believe that was 11 years ago

No.....christ where has the time gone. Still like top 3 esport moment imo dem feels
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
April 25 2015 12:50 GMT
#1447
6 Z wins out of 7 with herO and Maru playing. That was unexpected to say the least . Congratz CJ !
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51122 Posts
April 25 2015 12:51 GMT
#1448
ahh I love TvT
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18724 Posts
April 25 2015 12:51 GMT
#1449
BW TvT is the greatest matchup of all time in all RTS.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51122 Posts
April 25 2015 12:52 GMT
#1450
On April 25 2015 21:51 sharkie wrote:
BW TvT is the greatest matchup of all time in all RTS.


nah BW TvZ has that honor.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18724 Posts
April 25 2015 12:52 GMT
#1451
On April 25 2015 21:52 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2015 21:51 sharkie wrote:
BW TvT is the greatest matchup of all time in all RTS.


nah BW TvZ has that honor.


Sorry but mech TvZ ruined that matchup for me... :/
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
April 25 2015 12:52 GMT
#1452
On April 25 2015 21:52 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2015 21:51 sharkie wrote:
BW TvT is the greatest matchup of all time in all RTS.


nah BW TvZ has that honor.

TvZ
TvT
PvZ
TvP
PvP
ZvZ
in that order
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51122 Posts
April 25 2015 12:58 GMT
#1453
On April 25 2015 21:52 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2015 21:52 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On April 25 2015 21:51 sharkie wrote:
BW TvT is the greatest matchup of all time in all RTS.


nah BW TvZ has that honor.


Sorry but mech TvZ ruined that matchup for me... :/


I can see that lol, Effort has been rocking against mech so hard these days that most terrans stick to playing just SK terran against him, too bad other zergs aren't able to do that.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
April 25 2015 13:01 GMT
#1454
On April 25 2015 21:41 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2015 21:35 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On April 25 2015 21:33 sharkie wrote:
Thanks for the input guys, I feel the same as most of you. Definitely not top3 at the moment but he is slowly crawling towards there. Not even a sure top5 but almost a fixed holder for that as well.

He's got a lot to show in the upcoming individual leagues now, he's still in both leagues I think?


I'd put him at #5. He's in all 3 Korean tournaments atm.

Life > soO = Soulkey > Dark > ByuL

Uh, both SoO and Soulkey are doing worse than Dark.


Since Dark has never reached any finals, he always will be behind both of them
In memory of Geoff "iNcontroL" Robinson 11.09.1985 - 21.07.2019 A tribute to incredible man, embodiment of joy, esports titan, starcraft community pillar all in one. You will always be remembered!
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-25 13:02:50
April 25 2015 13:01 GMT
#1455
I dont know why you guys are praising Park? I mean Byul just basically solo saved the team.

I mean it's fine to say he's a good coach, but I don't think his strat was, ok Byul guess I fucked up on the first 3, go in there and make me look good!
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18724 Posts
April 25 2015 13:07 GMT
#1456
On April 25 2015 22:01 stuchiu wrote:
I dont know why you guys are praising Park? I mean Byul just basically solo saved the team.

I mean it's fine to say he's a good coach, but I don't think his strat was, ok Byul guess I fucked up on the first 3, go in there and make me look good!


When people says Kespa teams are better they usually mean the whole practice regime, team house mentality, coaching system with it.
Coach Park has a huge influence in how players improve. Byul definitely improved a lot from a year ago.

You know that coaches are what tell the players when and what to train and also holes in their game, improvements, etc.
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
April 25 2015 13:07 GMT
#1457
On April 25 2015 22:01 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2015 21:41 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On April 25 2015 21:35 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On April 25 2015 21:33 sharkie wrote:
Thanks for the input guys, I feel the same as most of you. Definitely not top3 at the moment but he is slowly crawling towards there. Not even a sure top5 but almost a fixed holder for that as well.

He's got a lot to show in the upcoming individual leagues now, he's still in both leagues I think?


I'd put him at #5. He's in all 3 Korean tournaments atm.

Life > soO = Soulkey > Dark > ByuL

Uh, both SoO and Soulkey are doing worse than Dark.


Since Dark has never reached any finals, he always will be behind both of them

What a nonsense. By that definition MC is better than both Soulkey and SoO since he has 3 GSL titles in his pocket. Current form matters and both Soulkey and SoO are doing worse than Dark... I believe SoO was taking a break and he will probably be back in his form but I doubt that Soulkey is getting anywhere near his previous level when he was on KeSPA team.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
April 25 2015 13:14 GMT
#1458
On April 25 2015 22:07 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2015 22:01 stuchiu wrote:
I dont know why you guys are praising Park? I mean Byul just basically solo saved the team.

I mean it's fine to say he's a good coach, but I don't think his strat was, ok Byul guess I fucked up on the first 3, go in there and make me look good!


When people says Kespa teams are better they usually mean the whole practice regime, team house mentality, coaching system with it.
Coach Park has a huge influence in how players improve. Byul definitely improved a lot from a year ago.

You know that coaches are what tell the players when and what to train and also holes in their game, improvements, etc.


Sure, but then I'd say Stork was the best coach this round by that measure. Considering the star power and talent pool of his team, he improved his squad the most of any team this round.

Of course there interesting implications of KT and Ryu Won. Ryu Won has been successful with every player/team before this, but KT (without Life) has mostly been much worse. Is it cause of the coach or are the players not adhering to what he's telling them?
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royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
April 25 2015 13:15 GMT
#1459
On April 25 2015 22:14 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2015 22:07 sharkie wrote:
On April 25 2015 22:01 stuchiu wrote:
I dont know why you guys are praising Park? I mean Byul just basically solo saved the team.

I mean it's fine to say he's a good coach, but I don't think his strat was, ok Byul guess I fucked up on the first 3, go in there and make me look good!


When people says Kespa teams are better they usually mean the whole practice regime, team house mentality, coaching system with it.
Coach Park has a huge influence in how players improve. Byul definitely improved a lot from a year ago.

You know that coaches are what tell the players when and what to train and also holes in their game, improvements, etc.


Sure, but then I'd say Stork was the best coach this round by that measure. Considering the star power and talent pool of his team, he improved his squad the most of any team this round.

Of course there interesting implications of KT and Ryu Won. Ryu Won has been successful with every player/team before this, but KT (without Life) has mostly been much worse. Is it cause of the coach or are the players not adhering to what he's telling them?

Except for maybe Stats? Though I'd agree its arguable considering stats won WECG last year.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
April 25 2015 13:31 GMT
#1460
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