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GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
February 05 2015 13:54 GMT
#1101
Well was a fun day all in all.
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
February 05 2015 13:55 GMT
#1102
On February 05 2015 22:46 Rollora wrote:
TvZ still best matchup, constant action and excitement.
I like that you gain a very VERY slightly better position with every trade as terran, so every small win sums up.
However on the other side I don't like that it takes soooo long to kill a Zerg even in a superior position, and that if you make one big mistake the game can totally turn around. Unfortunately I don't have Marus skills so this happens to me way too often (as Terran, playing random btw). But well this is what we get: a game balanced around the very highest skill level.

The only thing I don't like in TvZ is the lack of different unit compositions from Zerg's side. Terran can open with a lot of different things, depending on the game is going for Hellions, Banshees, Marines, then Hellbat pushes, Widow Mines, Thors, sometimes few Tanks, drops etc.

Zerg is going for Ling, Muta, Banelings every single game, occasionally adding Roaches. Even though it is very action packed and probably the most interesting match up, it is still monotone from the Zerg's perspective.

I liked ZvP before because Zerg had a ton of choices, and a lot of Zergs were playing this differently, but nowadays everybody just go straight for Swarm Hosts as they realized that they are the most efficient way of dealing with Protoss.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
SNSeigifried
Profile Joined April 2013
United States1640 Posts
February 05 2015 13:58 GMT
#1103
(P)Dear vs (Z)Life is gonna be very sick there very even in skill atm and have played recently in proleague where (P)Dear won!!!
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Blurry1
Profile Joined February 2015
United States17 Posts
February 05 2015 13:59 GMT
#1104
MARUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU. what a god
MARUUUUUUUUU
Rocket-Bear
Profile Joined July 2014
3070 Posts
February 05 2015 14:01 GMT
#1105
Maru vs Leenock oh god..
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Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-05 14:04:03
February 05 2015 14:02 GMT
#1106
On February 05 2015 22:58 SNSeigifried wrote:
(P)Dear vs (Z)Life is gonna be very sick there very even in skill atm and have played recently in proleague where (P)Dear won!!!

Dear is very even with Life? Dear has been relevant only recently and still isn't even close to his old self, on the other hand Life is destroying everybody left and right(outside of proleague) and has multiple tournament wins. You shouldn't be judging something based on proleague, Life plays really bad in proleague and is losing to people he shouldn't be losing to. When you compare Life from proleague and Life from other tournaments, you see two completely different persons, lol.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-05 14:10:47
February 05 2015 14:09 GMT
#1107
On February 05 2015 22:46 Rollora wrote:
TvZ still best matchup, constant action and excitement.
I like that you gain a very VERY slightly better position with every trade as terran, so every small win sums up.
However on the other side I don't like that it takes soooo long to kill a Zerg even in a superior position, and that if you make one big mistake the game can totally turn around. Unfortunately I don't have Marus skills so this happens to me way too often (as Terran, playing random btw). But well this is what we get: a game balanced around the very highest skill level.


The other way around ending a game with an advantage isn't that much easier. See g2 of Dark vs Dream when it took Dark 10mins to force the gg out of Dream after he basically won with the roach bust and the game could have been quickly turned around or even out if that 3widow mine drop had really hit home.

That's how matchups with good defenders advantage should look like. It should be a constant struggle, not just 1big army battle or one big gamble and insta-gg. It's strong enough to have these roach busts or hellbat pushes giving you already near unloseable advantages, no need to have secure game winning strategies.
SNSeigifried
Profile Joined April 2013
United States1640 Posts
February 05 2015 14:13 GMT
#1108
On February 05 2015 23:02 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2015 22:58 SNSeigifried wrote:
(P)Dear vs (Z)Life is gonna be very sick there very even in skill atm and have played recently in proleague where (P)Dear won!!!

Dear is very even with Life? Dear has been relevant only recently and still isn't even close to his old self, on the other hand Life is destroying everybody left and right(outside of proleague) and has multiple tournament wins. You shouldn't be judging something based on proleague, Life plays really bad in proleague and is losing to people he shouldn't be losing to. When you compare Life from proleague and Life from other tournaments, you see two completely different persons, lol.

Life vs Protoss since a month ago
1-2 PartinG
0-1 Dear
1-2 Rain
0-1 Classic
0-2 herO
2-0 Classic
2-0 herO
1-0 Seed
3-1 Parting
0-1 Stats

Dear vs Zerg since a month ago
2-1 Leenock
2-1 Curious
0-2 Dark
1-0 Life
0-1 Action
0-1 Dark
1-2 Dark

Dam Dear and Dark play alot haha
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SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
February 05 2015 14:13 GMT
#1109
Told ya Maru would wreck the fuck out of them
Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-05 14:16:33
February 05 2015 14:16 GMT
#1110
On February 05 2015 23:13 SC2Toastie wrote:
Told ya Maru would wreck the fuck out of them

God damn it, how do I make a pun about staying in your Dream World by not watching g2 and g3 Maru played, when Dream World is the opposite of what I want to say.
SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-05 14:18:55
February 05 2015 14:18 GMT
#1111
On February 05 2015 23:16 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2015 23:13 SC2Toastie wrote:
Told ya Maru would wreck the fuck out of them

God damn it, how do I make a pun about staying in your Dream World by not watching g2 and g3 Maru played, when Dream World is the opposite of what I want to say.

Didn't see the games yet, had classes T__T

But he owned TY and Dark so it's fine

And I'm sure Maru likes Dream (I do, so Maru automatically does so too, we're so close) so he gave him the walkover.
Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
February 05 2015 14:19 GMT
#1112
Dear and Maru are the only two players I would like to see defeat Life, and maybe herO!

I think Dear can take Life, even if I do concede that he is the underdog by far.
Maru, Bomber, TY, Dear, Classic, DeParture and Rogue!
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
February 05 2015 14:25 GMT
#1113
How good was dream v dark?
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GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
February 05 2015 14:28 GMT
#1114
On February 05 2015 23:25 Cricketer12 wrote:
How good was dream v dark?

Was pretty decent imo
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
TriZ
Profile Joined September 2012
Belgium379 Posts
February 05 2015 14:49 GMT
#1115
Dream & Maru, pretty nice two terrans added to the final 8.

Too bad Dark couldn't make it happen in NSSL.
He still has GSL though, but it's a tough group and he might want to up those ZvT skills a bit before going against MMA again and certainly INnoVation.
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
February 05 2015 14:52 GMT
#1116
On February 05 2015 23:25 Cricketer12 wrote:
How good was dream v dark?

First game was Dark suiciding his army into a fortified Thor/Hellbats/Banshee defense.
Second game was Dark going full TSL and Dream trying to get back into the game for ~10 minutes.
Third game was decently good.
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
February 05 2015 15:01 GMT
#1117
Holy crap Dream? Seriously? That's impressive. I'm so shocked Dark didn't make it.
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
February 05 2015 15:02 GMT
#1118
Wow not even Dark could survive the Terran onslaught. Either way both SKT young guns are killing it

Also yay MARUUUU
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
February 05 2015 15:15 GMT
#1119
Nice to see Maru got it together after that ugly dream series
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Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
February 05 2015 15:25 GMT
#1120
On February 05 2015 23:49 TriZ wrote:
Dream & Maru, pretty nice two terrans added to the final 8.

Too bad Dark couldn't make it happen in NSSL.
He still has GSL though, but it's a tough group and he might want to up those ZvT skills a bit before going against MMA again and certainly INnoVation.

Against Innovation yes, and I think that even with practice he can't beat Innovation, but he has managed to destroy MMA multiple times. I don't think that MMA can beat Dark at all.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
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