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rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5612 Posts
February 02 2015 11:53 GMT
#441
KT needs more Stats and Action!
don't wall off against random
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24602 Posts
February 02 2015 11:53 GMT
#442
The South Korean military will make Bomber a four-star general.
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
February 02 2015 11:53 GMT
#443
I miss Bomber can we have Bomber back
Leenock =^_^= Ryung =^_^= Parting =^_^= herO =^_^= Guilty
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
February 02 2015 11:54 GMT
#444
Hmm should I make next thread then?
Neosteel Enthusiast
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
February 02 2015 11:54 GMT
#445
On February 02 2015 20:54 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Hmm should I make next thread then?

Go ahead
lastride
Profile Joined April 2014
2390 Posts
February 02 2015 11:54 GMT
#446
What is happening to Flash...I just don't get this
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
February 02 2015 11:55 GMT
#447
On February 02 2015 20:47 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2015 20:47 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
KT coach better retire

Ryu Won better be fired with a kick in his back


yespls. MMA needs another championship
Liquipedia"Expert"
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
February 02 2015 11:55 GMT
#448
On February 02 2015 20:53 Heartland wrote:
The South Korean military will make Bomber a four-star general.

But with him as general plenty of infantry-loaded planes and helicopters will get detroyed D:
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TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
February 02 2015 11:55 GMT
#449
On February 02 2015 20:54 lastride wrote:
What is happening to Flash...I just don't get this

Bah, he got sniped here anyway
Jono7272
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom6330 Posts
February 02 2015 11:56 GMT
#450
I missed the TvT.. but sounds like Flash got destroyed. Even when Flash wasn't playing his best previously in single leagues, he was still playing well in Proleague. What's happened?
Innovation | Flash | Mvp | Byun | TY
Keeemy
Profile Joined November 2012
Finland7855 Posts
February 02 2015 11:56 GMT
#451
Yeaaasshhh Startale! Thank you Bomber!
Hello
Neemi
Profile Joined August 2012
Netherlands656 Posts
February 02 2015 11:57 GMT
#452
KT as a team is performing about the same as last year, it's mostly just Flash completely inverting his record, causing them to lose series they would otherwise win. I feel bad for him, something clearly went wrong after August and considering his pride/reputation he must feel absolutely terrible after every loss.

Congrats to ST-Yoe though, 5-2 is the best performance by a non-BW team since the switch to SC2 during the main stage of a round. They're true contenders!
Cute
Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
February 02 2015 11:57 GMT
#453
On February 02 2015 20:55 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2015 20:53 Heartland wrote:
The South Korean military will make Bomber a four-star general.

But with him as general plenty of infantry-loaded planes and helicopters will get detroyed D:



But the military production will rise and rise and rise.
Bomber, Attacker, DD, SOMEBODY, NiKo, Nex, Spidii
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18629 Posts
February 02 2015 11:57 GMT
#454
On February 02 2015 20:56 Jono7272 wrote:
I missed the TvT.. but sounds like Flash got destroyed. Even when Flash wasn't playing his best previously in single leagues, he was still playing well in Proleague. What's happened?


age, motivation are the two most obvious things imo
Especially motivation.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
February 02 2015 11:58 GMT
#455
On February 02 2015 20:57 Neemi wrote:
KT as a team is performing about the same as last year, it's mostly just Flash completely inverting his record, causing them to lose series they would otherwise win. I feel bad for him, something clearly went wrong after August and considering his pride/reputation he must feel absolutely terrible after every loss.

Zest is 6-5 and TY 2-4, they should both perform better too considering their level
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
February 02 2015 12:00 GMT
#456
On February 02 2015 20:58 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2015 20:57 Neemi wrote:
KT as a team is performing about the same as last year, it's mostly just Flash completely inverting his record, causing them to lose series they would otherwise win. I feel bad for him, something clearly went wrong after August and considering his pride/reputation he must feel absolutely terrible after every loss.

Zest is 6-5 and TY 2-4, they should both perform better too considering their level

Yep, TY was 7-0 during last season's round 1
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XiaoJoyce-
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
China2908 Posts
February 02 2015 12:00 GMT
#457
On February 02 2015 20:57 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2015 20:56 Jono7272 wrote:
I missed the TvT.. but sounds like Flash got destroyed. Even when Flash wasn't playing his best previously in single leagues, he was still playing well in Proleague. What's happened?


age, motivation are the two most obvious things imo
Especially motivation.


Maybe it is confidence . . . every loss just affect him someway, he is . . . . . human
I tink, he should be patient, take a break. then come back stronger . . .
Do not rush to prove himself I find . . .
Pew! Pew! Chitty Chitty Bang Bang!
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2954 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-02 12:01:31
February 02 2015 12:01 GMT
#458
Even without PartinG being allowed to play, ST-Yoe looks really strong. And the All-kill format in the playoffs might favour them even more.
SackOfWetMice
Profile Joined October 2014
United States288 Posts
February 02 2015 12:01 GMT
#459
On February 02 2015 20:35 The_Red_Viper wrote:
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On February 02 2015 20:30 SackOfWetMice wrote:
On February 02 2015 20:19 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On February 02 2015 20:15 SackOfWetMice wrote:
On February 02 2015 20:10 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On February 02 2015 20:08 SackOfWetMice wrote:
On February 02 2015 20:05 dazed25 wrote:
On February 02 2015 20:03 SackOfWetMice wrote:
I'm just gonna sit here...and not say anything...and enjoy being right...

On December 20 2014 13:53 SackOfWetMice wrote:
Dream, Cure, Skyhigh, Rogue, Yongwha, all steals

Flash at 9 and Zest at 8 are overpriced imo; they'll likely get fielded a lot but I see Stats and TY doing better than either of them, and getting fielded just as much.


If you are referring to FPL value, Zest has been the best player along with Life. Stats and TY have been disappointing (Stats mostly due to absences from the lineup or not playing). But I'll let you continue your told you so paraade.

Oh, as I said before, that was before I read the silly way points are allotted in FPL (although it's really the best out of the possible options).

On February 02 2015 20:05 BlackCompany wrote:And by not saying anything you mean you think you are right and brag about the fact that you are actually wrong?


Unfortunately for you, I'm not wrong.

If only "the silly way points are allotted in fpl" would actually matter in this case, but they don't :/

So do you think Flash and Zest have been performing better in the past few months than Stats and TY?

I don't think i said that. I just questioned your argument about how "the silly way points work in proleague" had anything to do with Zest having a lot of points.
Don't cop out like that when this argument doesn't even work in reality

Wait a minute, you're saying that my argument that the way points are allotted in FPL has something to do with how many FPL points Zest has doesn't work, and is a cop out? Wat?

You basically said (in another post) that Zest having a lot of fpl points isn't a prove your argument was wrong (that he won't be good for fpl), cause you only need to play in proleague to get points, which is likely the point you tried to make in this thread as well.
Bad for you that this doesn't matter in this case at all though, Zest didn't make the points this way at all, he carried KT in 2 matches.
But whatever, arguing with you is pretty annoying tbh, probably a waste of time :/
So i probably won't answer any of your future replies, i don't think it's worth it

You completely misread that then; my point in this thread had nothing to do with "points" or FPL. I was talking about SC2.

I'm referring to a few predictions that I made back in early december, when others were predicting different things and putting KT as #1.

I'll quote the post:

On December 18 2014 06:39 SackOfWetMice wrote:
I've watched every Proleague and GSL game for the past year and a half. I just don't buy the individual leagues != team leagues argument. It doesn't make logical sense. It seems like that argument is simply what early religion was to early human cultures - an attempt to make sense out of things that are unexplainable. The only possible logical explanation is if KT players are just allowed less time to practice for individual leagues and more for Proleague.

Also, it felt to me like other teams (SKT and JAGW in particular) lost SPL 2014 more than KT won it. I think people will be much more prepared for KT this time around, with specific snipers on each team for the 4 core KT players. Not to mention the fact that you essentially don't have to prepare for vZ against them, that just makes it easier.

I think Zest, Flash, Stats, and TY all had breakout years in 2014. Each saw some of if not all of their best individual league success ever in SC2. I expect at least 2 of them to drop off slightly if not significantly (Zest has already been doing so for the past ~5 months). I'm wary of both Zest and Stats having their "breakout year" during the undisputed year of Protoss. If they can maintain their 2014 level of play throughout all of 2015, then I'd definitely rank them (KT) in the top 3. I just don't expect them to. SC2 is a very volatile game. So I guess "overrated" is not exactly the word I was looking for; rather, I'd say I have tempered expectations for KT's core 4 players in 2015 (in both SPL and individual leagues).
Zest - Flash - TY - Top 3 SC2! - KT Rolster Fighting, #6 team in Proleague! - Zest #1 Proleague Ace Player!
Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
February 02 2015 12:03 GMT
#460
On February 02 2015 21:01 Swisslink wrote:
Even without PartinG being allowed to play, ST-Yoe looks really strong. And the All-kill format in the playoffs might favour them even more.


Yeah with the BigPartyBoy they would be titel contender. SKT1 shame on you Or on the Kespa rules. But someone needs the shame!
Bomber, Attacker, DD, SOMEBODY, NiKo, Nex, Spidii
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