• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 18:50
CEST 00:50
KST 07:50
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
HomeStory Cup 27 - Info & Preview17Classic wins Code S Season 2 (2025)16Code S RO4 & Finals Preview: herO, Rogue, Classic, GuMiho0TL Team Map Contest #5: Presented by Monster Energy6Code S RO8 Preview: herO, Zoun, Bunny, Classic7
Community News
FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $8000 live event13Esports World Cup 2025 - Final Player Roster12Weekly Cups (June 16-22): Clem strikes back1Weekly Cups (June 9-15): herO doubles on GSL week4Firefly suspended by EWC, replaced by Lancer12
StarCraft 2
General
How does the number of casters affect your enjoyment of esports? The SCII GOAT: A statistical Evaluation Hybrid setting keep reverting. HomeStory Cup 27 - Info & Preview Esports World Cup 2025 - Final Player Roster
Tourneys
HomeStory Cup 27 (June 27-29) FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $8000 live event $200 Biweekly - StarCraft Evolution League #1 SOOPer7s Showmatches 2025 RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response Simple Questions Simple Answers [G] Darkgrid Layout
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 479 Worn Out Welcome Mutation # 478 Instant Karma Mutation # 477 Slow and Steady Mutation # 476 Charnel House
Brood War
General
Unit and Spell Similarities ASL20 Preliminary Maps BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ NaDa's Body
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL20] ProLeague LB Final - Saturday 20:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0 [ASL19] Grand Finals
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers I am doing this better than progamers do. [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile What do you want from future RTS games? Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Trading/Investing Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
SKT1 Classic Fan Club! Maru Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Korean Music Discussion
Sports
NBA General Discussion 2024 - 2025 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NHL Playoffs 2024 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Blog #2
tankgirl
Game Sound vs. Music: The Im…
TrAiDoS
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Heero Yuy & the Tax…
KrillinFromwales
I was completely wrong ab…
jameswatts
Need Your Help/Advice
Glider
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 627 users

[SPL] ST-YFW vs KT Round 1 2015 - Page 23

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 21 22 23 24 25 26 Next All
rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5585 Posts
February 02 2015 11:53 GMT
#441
KT needs more Stats and Action!
don't wall off against random
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
February 02 2015 11:53 GMT
#442
The South Korean military will make Bomber a four-star general.
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
February 02 2015 11:53 GMT
#443
I miss Bomber can we have Bomber back
Leenock =^_^= Ryung =^_^= Parting =^_^= herO =^_^= Guilty
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
February 02 2015 11:54 GMT
#444
Hmm should I make next thread then?
Neosteel Enthusiast
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
February 02 2015 11:54 GMT
#445
On February 02 2015 20:54 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Hmm should I make next thread then?

Go ahead
lastride
Profile Joined April 2014
2390 Posts
February 02 2015 11:54 GMT
#446
What is happening to Flash...I just don't get this
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
February 02 2015 11:55 GMT
#447
On February 02 2015 20:47 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2015 20:47 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
KT coach better retire

Ryu Won better be fired with a kick in his back


yespls. MMA needs another championship
Liquipedia"Expert"
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
February 02 2015 11:55 GMT
#448
On February 02 2015 20:53 Heartland wrote:
The South Korean military will make Bomber a four-star general.

But with him as general plenty of infantry-loaded planes and helicopters will get detroyed D:
Used Sigs - New Sigs - Cheap Sigs - Buy the Best Cheap Sig near You at www.cheapsigforsale.com
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
February 02 2015 11:55 GMT
#449
On February 02 2015 20:54 lastride wrote:
What is happening to Flash...I just don't get this

Bah, he got sniped here anyway
Jono7272
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom6330 Posts
February 02 2015 11:56 GMT
#450
I missed the TvT.. but sounds like Flash got destroyed. Even when Flash wasn't playing his best previously in single leagues, he was still playing well in Proleague. What's happened?
Innovation | Flash | Mvp | Byun | TY
Keeemy
Profile Joined November 2012
Finland7855 Posts
February 02 2015 11:56 GMT
#451
Yeaaasshhh Startale! Thank you Bomber!
Hello
Neemi
Profile Joined August 2012
Netherlands656 Posts
February 02 2015 11:57 GMT
#452
KT as a team is performing about the same as last year, it's mostly just Flash completely inverting his record, causing them to lose series they would otherwise win. I feel bad for him, something clearly went wrong after August and considering his pride/reputation he must feel absolutely terrible after every loss.

Congrats to ST-Yoe though, 5-2 is the best performance by a non-BW team since the switch to SC2 during the main stage of a round. They're true contenders!
Cute
Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
February 02 2015 11:57 GMT
#453
On February 02 2015 20:55 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2015 20:53 Heartland wrote:
The South Korean military will make Bomber a four-star general.

But with him as general plenty of infantry-loaded planes and helicopters will get detroyed D:



But the military production will rise and rise and rise.
Bomber, Attacker, DD, SOMEBODY, NiKo, Nex, Spidii
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18385 Posts
February 02 2015 11:57 GMT
#454
On February 02 2015 20:56 Jono7272 wrote:
I missed the TvT.. but sounds like Flash got destroyed. Even when Flash wasn't playing his best previously in single leagues, he was still playing well in Proleague. What's happened?


age, motivation are the two most obvious things imo
Especially motivation.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
February 02 2015 11:58 GMT
#455
On February 02 2015 20:57 Neemi wrote:
KT as a team is performing about the same as last year, it's mostly just Flash completely inverting his record, causing them to lose series they would otherwise win. I feel bad for him, something clearly went wrong after August and considering his pride/reputation he must feel absolutely terrible after every loss.

Zest is 6-5 and TY 2-4, they should both perform better too considering their level
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
February 02 2015 12:00 GMT
#456
On February 02 2015 20:58 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2015 20:57 Neemi wrote:
KT as a team is performing about the same as last year, it's mostly just Flash completely inverting his record, causing them to lose series they would otherwise win. I feel bad for him, something clearly went wrong after August and considering his pride/reputation he must feel absolutely terrible after every loss.

Zest is 6-5 and TY 2-4, they should both perform better too considering their level

Yep, TY was 7-0 during last season's round 1
Used Sigs - New Sigs - Cheap Sigs - Buy the Best Cheap Sig near You at www.cheapsigforsale.com
XiaoJoyce-
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
China2908 Posts
February 02 2015 12:00 GMT
#457
On February 02 2015 20:57 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2015 20:56 Jono7272 wrote:
I missed the TvT.. but sounds like Flash got destroyed. Even when Flash wasn't playing his best previously in single leagues, he was still playing well in Proleague. What's happened?


age, motivation are the two most obvious things imo
Especially motivation.


Maybe it is confidence . . . every loss just affect him someway, he is . . . . . human
I tink, he should be patient, take a break. then come back stronger . . .
Do not rush to prove himself I find . . .
Pew! Pew! Chitty Chitty Bang Bang!
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2952 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-02 12:01:31
February 02 2015 12:01 GMT
#458
Even without PartinG being allowed to play, ST-Yoe looks really strong. And the All-kill format in the playoffs might favour them even more.
SackOfWetMice
Profile Joined October 2014
United States288 Posts
February 02 2015 12:01 GMT
#459
On February 02 2015 20:35 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2015 20:30 SackOfWetMice wrote:
On February 02 2015 20:19 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On February 02 2015 20:15 SackOfWetMice wrote:
On February 02 2015 20:10 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On February 02 2015 20:08 SackOfWetMice wrote:
On February 02 2015 20:05 dazed25 wrote:
On February 02 2015 20:03 SackOfWetMice wrote:
I'm just gonna sit here...and not say anything...and enjoy being right...

On December 20 2014 13:53 SackOfWetMice wrote:
Dream, Cure, Skyhigh, Rogue, Yongwha, all steals

Flash at 9 and Zest at 8 are overpriced imo; they'll likely get fielded a lot but I see Stats and TY doing better than either of them, and getting fielded just as much.


If you are referring to FPL value, Zest has been the best player along with Life. Stats and TY have been disappointing (Stats mostly due to absences from the lineup or not playing). But I'll let you continue your told you so paraade.

Oh, as I said before, that was before I read the silly way points are allotted in FPL (although it's really the best out of the possible options).

On February 02 2015 20:05 BlackCompany wrote:And by not saying anything you mean you think you are right and brag about the fact that you are actually wrong?


Unfortunately for you, I'm not wrong.

If only "the silly way points are allotted in fpl" would actually matter in this case, but they don't :/

So do you think Flash and Zest have been performing better in the past few months than Stats and TY?

I don't think i said that. I just questioned your argument about how "the silly way points work in proleague" had anything to do with Zest having a lot of points.
Don't cop out like that when this argument doesn't even work in reality

Wait a minute, you're saying that my argument that the way points are allotted in FPL has something to do with how many FPL points Zest has doesn't work, and is a cop out? Wat?

You basically said (in another post) that Zest having a lot of fpl points isn't a prove your argument was wrong (that he won't be good for fpl), cause you only need to play in proleague to get points, which is likely the point you tried to make in this thread as well.
Bad for you that this doesn't matter in this case at all though, Zest didn't make the points this way at all, he carried KT in 2 matches.
But whatever, arguing with you is pretty annoying tbh, probably a waste of time :/
So i probably won't answer any of your future replies, i don't think it's worth it

You completely misread that then; my point in this thread had nothing to do with "points" or FPL. I was talking about SC2.

I'm referring to a few predictions that I made back in early december, when others were predicting different things and putting KT as #1.

I'll quote the post:

On December 18 2014 06:39 SackOfWetMice wrote:
I've watched every Proleague and GSL game for the past year and a half. I just don't buy the individual leagues != team leagues argument. It doesn't make logical sense. It seems like that argument is simply what early religion was to early human cultures - an attempt to make sense out of things that are unexplainable. The only possible logical explanation is if KT players are just allowed less time to practice for individual leagues and more for Proleague.

Also, it felt to me like other teams (SKT and JAGW in particular) lost SPL 2014 more than KT won it. I think people will be much more prepared for KT this time around, with specific snipers on each team for the 4 core KT players. Not to mention the fact that you essentially don't have to prepare for vZ against them, that just makes it easier.

I think Zest, Flash, Stats, and TY all had breakout years in 2014. Each saw some of if not all of their best individual league success ever in SC2. I expect at least 2 of them to drop off slightly if not significantly (Zest has already been doing so for the past ~5 months). I'm wary of both Zest and Stats having their "breakout year" during the undisputed year of Protoss. If they can maintain their 2014 level of play throughout all of 2015, then I'd definitely rank them (KT) in the top 3. I just don't expect them to. SC2 is a very volatile game. So I guess "overrated" is not exactly the word I was looking for; rather, I'd say I have tempered expectations for KT's core 4 players in 2015 (in both SPL and individual leagues).
Zest - Flash - TY - Top 3 SC2! - KT Rolster Fighting, #6 team in Proleague! - Zest #1 Proleague Ace Player!
Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
February 02 2015 12:03 GMT
#460
On February 02 2015 21:01 Swisslink wrote:
Even without PartinG being allowed to play, ST-Yoe looks really strong. And the All-kill format in the playoffs might favour them even more.


Yeah with the BigPartyBoy they would be titel contender. SKT1 shame on you Or on the Kespa rules. But someone needs the shame!
Bomber, Attacker, DD, SOMEBODY, NiKo, Nex, Spidii
Prev 1 21 22 23 24 25 26 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 10h 10m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
NeuroSwarm 188
Livibee 163
ProTech72
StarCraft: Brood War
Aegong 94
NaDa 40
MaD[AoV]12
Dota 2
monkeys_forever720
capcasts161
League of Legends
Grubby3717
Dendi1726
JimRising 526
Counter-Strike
summit1g9754
FalleN 1623
Stewie2K308
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox273
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor351
Other Games
FrodaN3219
Mlord1230
fl0m625
ViBE150
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1646
EGCTV1469
BasetradeTV25
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 21 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta84
• Adnapsc2 35
• HeavenSC 10
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Kozan
StarCraft: Brood War
• 80smullet 25
• blackmanpl 13
• Michael_bg 3
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV888
League of Legends
• Doublelift3405
• Jankos1936
Other Games
• Scarra913
• imaqtpie809
Upcoming Events
SOOP
10h 10m
SHIN vs ByuN
HomeStory Cup
12h 10m
BSL: ProLeague
19h 10m
Replay Cast
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
WardiTV European League
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
RSL Revival
4 days
WardiTV European League
4 days
RSL Revival
5 days
[ Show More ]
Korean StarCraft League
6 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Rose Open S1
2025 GSL S2
Heroes 10 EU

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
BSL 2v2 Season 3
BSL Season 20
Acropolis #3
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
CSL 17: 2025 SUMMER
Copa Latinoamericana 4
Championship of Russia 2025
RSL Revival: Season 1
HSC XXVII
Murky Cup #2
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025
YaLLa Compass Qatar 2025

Upcoming

CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
K-Championship
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
SEL Season 2 Championship
FEL Cracov 2025
Esports World Cup 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.