On January 27 2015 22:12 OtherWorld wrote: So for now SKT and CJ are the only teams with guaranteed playoffs spots right?
Seems so yes
Unless SKT and KT win, and JAGW loses, in that case it's a 4-way tie with CJ, KT, ST and JAGW at a 4-3 score?
Which is now impossible since SKT is sitting pretty at 5-1 and +12
And? Currently : SKT 5-1 CJ 4-2 ST 4-2 JAGW 3-3 KT 3-3
If : -SKT wins CJ : SKT +1 (6-1) ; CJ -1 (4-3) -KT wins ST : KT +1 (4-3) ; ST -1 (4-3) -JAGW wins Khan : JAGW +1 (4-3)
Wouldn't that be decided by map difference though? CJ make the playoffs no matter what since KT and ST-yoe are playing each other. Either KT or ST-yoe can get ahead of them on map difference, but not both.
On January 27 2015 22:12 OtherWorld wrote: So for now SKT and CJ are the only teams with guaranteed playoffs spots right?
Seems so yes
Unless SKT and KT win, and JAGW loses, in that case it's a 4-way tie with CJ, KT, ST and JAGW at a 4-3 score?
Which is now impossible since SKT is sitting pretty at 5-1 and +12
And? Currently : SKT 5-1 CJ 4-2 ST 4-2 JAGW 3-3 KT 3-3
If : -SKT wins CJ : SKT +1 (6-1) ; CJ -1 (4-3) -KT wins ST : KT +1 (4-3) ; ST -1 (4-3) -JAGW wins Khan : JAGW +1 (4-3)
Wouldn't that be decided by map difference though? CJ make the playoffs no matter what since KT and ST-yoe are playing each other. Either KT or ST-yoe can get ahead of them on map difference, but not both.
KT and ST are both -1, so whoever wins would definitely be in playoffs assuming Jin Air beats Samsung afterwards
On January 27 2015 22:12 OtherWorld wrote: So for now SKT and CJ are the only teams with guaranteed playoffs spots right?
Seems so yes
Unless SKT and KT win, and JAGW loses, in that case it's a 4-way tie with CJ, KT, ST and JAGW at a 4-3 score?
Which is now impossible since SKT is sitting pretty at 5-1 and +12
And? Currently : SKT 5-1 CJ 4-2 ST 4-2 JAGW 3-3 KT 3-3
If : -SKT wins CJ : SKT +1 (6-1) ; CJ -1 (4-3) -KT wins ST : KT +1 (4-3) ; ST -1 (4-3) -JAGW wins Khan : JAGW +1 (4-3)
Wouldn't that be decided by map difference though? CJ make the playoffs no matter what since KT and ST-yoe are playing each other. Either KT or ST-yoe can get ahead of them on map difference, but not both.
Hmm yeah apparently worst case scenario for CJ (3-0 loss) would put them at -1 map difference, while ST losing 3-2 would put them at -2. So yeah SKT and CJ are confirmed for the playoffs.
On January 27 2015 22:12 OtherWorld wrote: So for now SKT and CJ are the only teams with guaranteed playoffs spots right?
Seems so yes
Unless SKT and KT win, and JAGW loses, in that case it's a 4-way tie with CJ, KT, ST and JAGW at a 4-3 score?
Which is now impossible since SKT is sitting pretty at 5-1 and +12
And? Currently : SKT 5-1 CJ 4-2 ST 4-2 JAGW 3-3 KT 3-3
If : -SKT wins CJ : SKT +1 (6-1) ; CJ -1 (4-3) -KT wins ST : KT +1 (4-3) ; ST -1 (4-3) -JAGW wins Khan : JAGW +1 (4-3)
Wouldn't that be decided by map difference though? CJ make the playoffs no matter what since KT and ST-yoe are playing each other. Either KT or ST-yoe can get ahead of them on map difference, but not both.
KT and ST are both -1, so whoever wins would definitely be in playoffs assuming Jin Air beats Samsung afterwards
Yeah, those two matches will determine who makes the playoffs. We'll know who the top 4 are after Monday, but we won't know the exact order until after SKT vs CJ.
I wonder how many people picked up Creator in the last 2 weeks for their main team. Defiinitely one of the best trades. Gotta say, I'm quite pleased with Creator beating Zest and sOs.
I'm glad I picked up Maru and abandoned Rogue and Cure, haha.
On January 27 2015 22:12 OtherWorld wrote: So for now SKT and CJ are the only teams with guaranteed playoffs spots right?
Seems so yes
Unless SKT and KT win, and JAGW loses, in that case it's a 4-way tie with CJ, KT, ST and JAGW at a 4-3 score?
Which is now impossible since SKT is sitting pretty at 5-1 and +12
And? Currently : SKT 5-1 CJ 4-2 ST 4-2 JAGW 3-3 KT 3-3
If : -SKT wins CJ : SKT +1 (6-1) ; CJ -1 (4-3) -KT wins ST : KT +1 (4-3) ; ST -1 (4-3) -JAGW wins Khan : JAGW +1 (4-3)
Wouldn't that be decided by map difference though? CJ make the playoffs no matter what since KT and ST-yoe are playing each other. Either KT or ST-yoe can get ahead of them on map difference, but not both.
KT and ST are both -1, so whoever wins would definitely be in playoffs assuming Jin Air beats Samsung afterwards
Yeah, those two matches will determine who makes the playoffs. We'll know who the top 4 are after Monday, but we won't know the exact order until after SKT vs CJ.
Well, no... If KT and JinAir loses, we will know top4 after Prime vs MVP match, hehe.
On January 27 2015 22:12 OtherWorld wrote: So for now SKT and CJ are the only teams with guaranteed playoffs spots right?
Seems so yes
Unless SKT and KT win, and JAGW loses, in that case it's a 4-way tie with CJ, KT, ST and JAGW at a 4-3 score?
Which is now impossible since SKT is sitting pretty at 5-1 and +12
And? Currently : SKT 5-1 CJ 4-2 ST 4-2 JAGW 3-3 KT 3-3
If : -SKT wins CJ : SKT +1 (6-1) ; CJ -1 (4-3) -KT wins ST : KT +1 (4-3) ; ST -1 (4-3) -JAGW wins Khan : JAGW +1 (4-3)
Wouldn't that be decided by map difference though? CJ make the playoffs no matter what since KT and ST-yoe are playing each other. Either KT or ST-yoe can get ahead of them on map difference, but not both.
KT and ST are both -1, so whoever wins would definitely be in playoffs assuming Jin Air beats Samsung afterwards
Yeah, those two matches will determine who makes the playoffs. We'll know who the top 4 are after Monday, but we won't know the exact order until after SKT vs CJ.
Well, no... If KT and JinAir loses, we will know top4 after Prime vs MVP match, hehe.
Both those teams are one win behind Jin Air. Jin Air is at +4 map difference, Prime is at -4, MVP is at -6. So even if Jin Air lose 3-0 and Prime win 3-0, Jin Air will still finish ahead of Prime, as far as I understand it.
Prime and MVP (and Samsung) cannot qualify for playoffs, no matter what they'd lose the point diff tie breaks to Jin Air if there was a 3 or 4 way tie.
SKT and CJ are both locked in, SKT locked in first (point diff too high even if there is a tie at 5-2). Even if there's a 4-way tie at 4-3, CJ's worst map score is -1 which would be better than ST's best map score if they lose of -2.
The winner of ST vs KT is through no matter what. If ST wins, Jin air is also through. If KT wins, then either Jin Air is through if they beat Samsung or else ST is through.
...unless head to head is used before point diff? I can't remember for sure, but I don't think it is.
On January 27 2015 22:12 OtherWorld wrote: So for now SKT and CJ are the only teams with guaranteed playoffs spots right?
Seems so yes
Unless SKT and KT win, and JAGW loses, in that case it's a 4-way tie with CJ, KT, ST and JAGW at a 4-3 score?
Which is now impossible since SKT is sitting pretty at 5-1 and +12
And? Currently : SKT 5-1 CJ 4-2 ST 4-2 JAGW 3-3 KT 3-3
If : -SKT wins CJ : SKT +1 (6-1) ; CJ -1 (4-3) -KT wins ST : KT +1 (4-3) ; ST -1 (4-3) -JAGW wins Khan : JAGW +1 (4-3)
Wouldn't that be decided by map difference though? CJ make the playoffs no matter what since KT and ST-yoe are playing each other. Either KT or ST-yoe can get ahead of them on map difference, but not both.
KT and ST are both -1, so whoever wins would definitely be in playoffs assuming Jin Air beats Samsung afterwards
Yeah, those two matches will determine who makes the playoffs. We'll know who the top 4 are after Monday, but we won't know the exact order until after SKT vs CJ.
Well, no... If KT and JinAir loses, we will know top4 after Prime vs MVP match, hehe.
Both those teams are one win behind Jin Air. Jin Air is at +4 map difference, Prime is at -4, MVP is at -6. So even if Jin Air lose 3-0 and Prime win 3-0, Jin Air will still finish ahead of Prime, as far as I understand it.
Isn't there head-to-head tiebraker? If there isn't, why Liquipedia says, that Prime and MVP could still advance?
On January 27 2015 22:13 TheDwf wrote: [quote] Seems so yes
Unless SKT and KT win, and JAGW loses, in that case it's a 4-way tie with CJ, KT, ST and JAGW at a 4-3 score?
Which is now impossible since SKT is sitting pretty at 5-1 and +12
And? Currently : SKT 5-1 CJ 4-2 ST 4-2 JAGW 3-3 KT 3-3
If : -SKT wins CJ : SKT +1 (6-1) ; CJ -1 (4-3) -KT wins ST : KT +1 (4-3) ; ST -1 (4-3) -JAGW wins Khan : JAGW +1 (4-3)
Wouldn't that be decided by map difference though? CJ make the playoffs no matter what since KT and ST-yoe are playing each other. Either KT or ST-yoe can get ahead of them on map difference, but not both.
KT and ST are both -1, so whoever wins would definitely be in playoffs assuming Jin Air beats Samsung afterwards
Yeah, those two matches will determine who makes the playoffs. We'll know who the top 4 are after Monday, but we won't know the exact order until after SKT vs CJ.
Well, no... If KT and JinAir loses, we will know top4 after Prime vs MVP match, hehe.
Both those teams are one win behind Jin Air. Jin Air is at +4 map difference, Prime is at -4, MVP is at -6. So even if Jin Air lose 3-0 and Prime win 3-0, Jin Air will still finish ahead of Prime, as far as I understand it.
Isn't there head-to-head tiebraker? If there isn't, why Liquipedia says, that Prime and MVP could still advance?
Well last year it was by map difference, so I don't think it's different this year. And even then, penalties may happen, making Prime or MVP qualifying possible (for that same reason CJ is not guaranteed a place in the playoffs yet).
On January 28 2015 00:15 Darkhorse wrote: Wow congrats to Prime! Sucks because I love Jin Air though... I really hope this causes you non-stop Prime bashers to lay off a bit
It might just turn them into Jin Air bashers though.
EPT
