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rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5628 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-27 15:19:39
January 27 2015 15:18 GMT
#401
On January 28 2015 00:06 w3c.TruE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 23:49 feebleFanfare wrote:
On January 27 2015 23:34 w3c.TruE wrote:
On January 27 2015 22:45 feebleFanfare wrote:
On January 27 2015 22:35 TheDwf wrote:
On January 27 2015 22:33 feebleFanfare wrote:
On January 27 2015 22:22 OtherWorld wrote:
On January 27 2015 22:18 MiniFotToss wrote:
On January 27 2015 22:15 OtherWorld wrote:
On January 27 2015 22:13 TheDwf wrote:
[quote]
Seems so yes

Unless SKT and KT win, and JAGW loses, in that case it's a 4-way tie with CJ, KT, ST and JAGW at a 4-3 score?

Which is now impossible since SKT is sitting pretty at 5-1 and +12

And?
Currently :
SKT 5-1
CJ 4-2
ST 4-2
JAGW 3-3
KT 3-3

If :
-SKT wins CJ : SKT +1 (6-1) ; CJ -1 (4-3)
-KT wins ST : KT +1 (4-3) ; ST -1 (4-3)
-JAGW wins Khan : JAGW +1 (4-3)


Wouldn't that be decided by map difference though? CJ make the playoffs no matter what since KT and ST-yoe are playing each other. Either KT or ST-yoe can get ahead of them on map difference, but not both.

KT and ST are both -1, so whoever wins would definitely be in playoffs assuming Jin Air beats Samsung afterwards

Yeah, those two matches will determine who makes the playoffs. We'll know who the top 4 are after Monday, but we won't know the exact order until after SKT vs CJ.

Well, no... If KT and JinAir loses, we will know top4 after Prime vs MVP match, hehe.

Both those teams are one win behind Jin Air. Jin Air is at +4 map difference, Prime is at -4, MVP is at -6. So even if Jin Air lose 3-0 and Prime win 3-0, Jin Air will still finish ahead of Prime, as far as I understand it.

Isn't there head-to-head tiebraker? If there isn't, why Liquipedia says, that Prime and MVP could still advance?

There's only tiebreakers if the map score is equal, so there's no way for Prime to place higher than 5th. That is unless penalty points come into play.
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feebleFanfare
Profile Joined December 2014
76 Posts
January 27 2015 15:22 GMT
#402
On January 28 2015 00:06 w3c.TruE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 23:49 feebleFanfare wrote:
On January 27 2015 23:34 w3c.TruE wrote:
On January 27 2015 22:45 feebleFanfare wrote:
On January 27 2015 22:35 TheDwf wrote:
On January 27 2015 22:33 feebleFanfare wrote:
On January 27 2015 22:22 OtherWorld wrote:
On January 27 2015 22:18 MiniFotToss wrote:
On January 27 2015 22:15 OtherWorld wrote:
On January 27 2015 22:13 TheDwf wrote:
[quote]
Seems so yes

Unless SKT and KT win, and JAGW loses, in that case it's a 4-way tie with CJ, KT, ST and JAGW at a 4-3 score?

Which is now impossible since SKT is sitting pretty at 5-1 and +12

And?
Currently :
SKT 5-1
CJ 4-2
ST 4-2
JAGW 3-3
KT 3-3

If :
-SKT wins CJ : SKT +1 (6-1) ; CJ -1 (4-3)
-KT wins ST : KT +1 (4-3) ; ST -1 (4-3)
-JAGW wins Khan : JAGW +1 (4-3)


Wouldn't that be decided by map difference though? CJ make the playoffs no matter what since KT and ST-yoe are playing each other. Either KT or ST-yoe can get ahead of them on map difference, but not both.

KT and ST are both -1, so whoever wins would definitely be in playoffs assuming Jin Air beats Samsung afterwards

Yeah, those two matches will determine who makes the playoffs. We'll know who the top 4 are after Monday, but we won't know the exact order until after SKT vs CJ.

Well, no... If KT and JinAir loses, we will know top4 after Prime vs MVP match, hehe.

Both those teams are one win behind Jin Air. Jin Air is at +4 map difference, Prime is at -4, MVP is at -6. So even if Jin Air lose 3-0 and Prime win 3-0, Jin Air will still finish ahead of Prime, as far as I understand it.

Isn't there head-to-head tiebraker? If there isn't, why Liquipedia says, that Prime and MVP could still advance?

Looking at results from last year, it was done by map difference (Jin Air finished above IM despite losing to them). I'm guessing that if two teams had same number of wins and same map difference then the head-to-head would be the tiebreaker.
w3c.TruE
Profile Joined November 2013
Czech Republic1055 Posts
January 27 2015 15:23 GMT
#403
On January 28 2015 00:18 rotta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2015 00:06 w3c.TruE wrote:
On January 27 2015 23:49 feebleFanfare wrote:
On January 27 2015 23:34 w3c.TruE wrote:
On January 27 2015 22:45 feebleFanfare wrote:
On January 27 2015 22:35 TheDwf wrote:
On January 27 2015 22:33 feebleFanfare wrote:
On January 27 2015 22:22 OtherWorld wrote:
On January 27 2015 22:18 MiniFotToss wrote:
On January 27 2015 22:15 OtherWorld wrote:
[quote]
Unless SKT and KT win, and JAGW loses, in that case it's a 4-way tie with CJ, KT, ST and JAGW at a 4-3 score?

Which is now impossible since SKT is sitting pretty at 5-1 and +12

And?
Currently :
SKT 5-1
CJ 4-2
ST 4-2
JAGW 3-3
KT 3-3

If :
-SKT wins CJ : SKT +1 (6-1) ; CJ -1 (4-3)
-KT wins ST : KT +1 (4-3) ; ST -1 (4-3)
-JAGW wins Khan : JAGW +1 (4-3)


Wouldn't that be decided by map difference though? CJ make the playoffs no matter what since KT and ST-yoe are playing each other. Either KT or ST-yoe can get ahead of them on map difference, but not both.

KT and ST are both -1, so whoever wins would definitely be in playoffs assuming Jin Air beats Samsung afterwards

Yeah, those two matches will determine who makes the playoffs. We'll know who the top 4 are after Monday, but we won't know the exact order until after SKT vs CJ.

Well, no... If KT and JinAir loses, we will know top4 after Prime vs MVP match, hehe.

Both those teams are one win behind Jin Air. Jin Air is at +4 map difference, Prime is at -4, MVP is at -6. So even if Jin Air lose 3-0 and Prime win 3-0, Jin Air will still finish ahead of Prime, as far as I understand it.

Isn't there head-to-head tiebraker? If there isn't, why Liquipedia says, that Prime and MVP could still advance?

There's only tiebreakers if the map score is equal, so there's no way for Prime to place higher than 5th. That is unless penalty points come into play.

Ah, oh well. That's a shame. It would be hilarious if Prime would advance into the playoffs.
Dream, Dark, herO, PartinG, RorO, Bbyong, Rain, soO, PtitDrogo <3. Goodbye RorO, MC you were awesome! You will be remembered!
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-27 15:25:09
January 27 2015 15:24 GMT
#404
On January 28 2015 00:23 w3c.TruE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2015 00:18 rotta wrote:
On January 28 2015 00:06 w3c.TruE wrote:
On January 27 2015 23:49 feebleFanfare wrote:
On January 27 2015 23:34 w3c.TruE wrote:
On January 27 2015 22:45 feebleFanfare wrote:
On January 27 2015 22:35 TheDwf wrote:
On January 27 2015 22:33 feebleFanfare wrote:
On January 27 2015 22:22 OtherWorld wrote:
On January 27 2015 22:18 MiniFotToss wrote:
[quote]
Which is now impossible since SKT is sitting pretty at 5-1 and +12

And?
Currently :
SKT 5-1
CJ 4-2
ST 4-2
JAGW 3-3
KT 3-3

If :
-SKT wins CJ : SKT +1 (6-1) ; CJ -1 (4-3)
-KT wins ST : KT +1 (4-3) ; ST -1 (4-3)
-JAGW wins Khan : JAGW +1 (4-3)


Wouldn't that be decided by map difference though? CJ make the playoffs no matter what since KT and ST-yoe are playing each other. Either KT or ST-yoe can get ahead of them on map difference, but not both.

KT and ST are both -1, so whoever wins would definitely be in playoffs assuming Jin Air beats Samsung afterwards

Yeah, those two matches will determine who makes the playoffs. We'll know who the top 4 are after Monday, but we won't know the exact order until after SKT vs CJ.

Well, no... If KT and JinAir loses, we will know top4 after Prime vs MVP match, hehe.

Both those teams are one win behind Jin Air. Jin Air is at +4 map difference, Prime is at -4, MVP is at -6. So even if Jin Air lose 3-0 and Prime win 3-0, Jin Air will still finish ahead of Prime, as far as I understand it.

Isn't there head-to-head tiebraker? If there isn't, why Liquipedia says, that Prime and MVP could still advance?

There's only tiebreakers if the map score is equal, so there's no way for Prime to place higher than 5th. That is unless penalty points come into play.

Ah, oh well. That's a shame. It would be hilarious if Prime would advance into the playoffs.

If they have the ability to beat KT and Jin Air, they very well could at least one of these rounds. If they really just picked up one more big name player they'd actually maybe be decent.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 27 2015 16:34 GMT
#405
lol
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
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w3c.TruE
Profile Joined November 2013
Czech Republic1055 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-27 16:50:44
January 27 2015 16:49 GMT
#406
On January 28 2015 00:24 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2015 00:23 w3c.TruE wrote:
On January 28 2015 00:18 rotta wrote:
On January 28 2015 00:06 w3c.TruE wrote:
On January 27 2015 23:49 feebleFanfare wrote:
On January 27 2015 23:34 w3c.TruE wrote:
On January 27 2015 22:45 feebleFanfare wrote:
On January 27 2015 22:35 TheDwf wrote:
On January 27 2015 22:33 feebleFanfare wrote:
On January 27 2015 22:22 OtherWorld wrote:
[quote]
And?
Currently :
SKT 5-1
CJ 4-2
ST 4-2
JAGW 3-3
KT 3-3

If :
-SKT wins CJ : SKT +1 (6-1) ; CJ -1 (4-3)
-KT wins ST : KT +1 (4-3) ; ST -1 (4-3)
-JAGW wins Khan : JAGW +1 (4-3)


Wouldn't that be decided by map difference though? CJ make the playoffs no matter what since KT and ST-yoe are playing each other. Either KT or ST-yoe can get ahead of them on map difference, but not both.

KT and ST are both -1, so whoever wins would definitely be in playoffs assuming Jin Air beats Samsung afterwards

Yeah, those two matches will determine who makes the playoffs. We'll know who the top 4 are after Monday, but we won't know the exact order until after SKT vs CJ.

Well, no... If KT and JinAir loses, we will know top4 after Prime vs MVP match, hehe.

Both those teams are one win behind Jin Air. Jin Air is at +4 map difference, Prime is at -4, MVP is at -6. So even if Jin Air lose 3-0 and Prime win 3-0, Jin Air will still finish ahead of Prime, as far as I understand it.

Isn't there head-to-head tiebraker? If there isn't, why Liquipedia says, that Prime and MVP could still advance?

There's only tiebreakers if the map score is equal, so there's no way for Prime to place higher than 5th. That is unless penalty points come into play.

Ah, oh well. That's a shame. It would be hilarious if Prime would advance into the playoffs.

If they have the ability to beat KT and Jin Air, they very well could at least one of these rounds. If they really just picked up one more big name player they'd actually maybe be decent.

If they would have some player like Action f.e., they could be quite good. It wouldn't ensure them playoff spot for every round, but they could actually get in, here and there.
Dream, Dark, herO, PartinG, RorO, Bbyong, Rain, soO, PtitDrogo <3. Goodbye RorO, MC you were awesome! You will be remembered!
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
January 27 2015 16:56 GMT
#407
Ah tough loss for Zoun D:
Btw the Korean casters pronounce it as djoon/june, not Zown.
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
January 27 2015 16:58 GMT
#408
On January 28 2015 01:34 Shellshock wrote:
lol

Exactly what I thought as well after seeing the results.
rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5628 Posts
January 27 2015 17:02 GMT
#409
On January 28 2015 01:56 Lorning wrote:
Ah tough loss for Zoun D:
Btw the Korean casters pronounce it as djoon/june, not Zown.

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Pyloss
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany1515 Posts
January 27 2015 17:11 GMT
#410
Yey, so happy for Prime!
As long as Creator diosnt get a PvZ, they can take every match!
<3 sOs, Parting, Mana, Honor, TaKe, Mcanning<3
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-27 17:13:32
January 27 2015 17:12 GMT
#411
Damn, GODlike TvT from YoDa
And I love his taste in music, Korean hiphop is great

And they got another banner
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
January 27 2015 17:16 GMT
#412
rofl, Prime won again?!

I figured Yoda had a decent shot and Creator even better, but Myungsik? wow
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TriZ
Profile Joined September 2012
Belgium379 Posts
January 27 2015 17:25 GMT
#413
I just had this gut feeling Prime would win! Congrats to the winners!

Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
January 27 2015 17:29 GMT
#414
OHMYGOD

MyuNgSiK dancing the zealots. This is gonna boost his morale so much.
He's also playing vs Rogue in NSSL (initial match)
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Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
January 27 2015 17:37 GMT
#415
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Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
January 27 2015 17:53 GMT
#416
Creator so fucking on point.

Our ace is back
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Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
January 27 2015 18:01 GMT
#417
I bet maru cried later on. It was brilliant seeing him just sitting there after the series
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
January 27 2015 18:11 GMT
#418
Wow. Fantastic result, good stuff prime.
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-27 18:21:50
January 27 2015 18:17 GMT
#419
Lol Creator's dad analyses his games and gives him tips

Oh, and I want one of those Prime jackets and hoodies
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therabit
Profile Joined August 2011
795 Posts
January 27 2015 18:19 GMT
#420
yes! my one point investment are paying off. Need to sell SoS now tho
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