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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On September 22 2014 01:33 Yorkie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2014 01:30 pigmanbear wrote:On September 22 2014 01:30 Yorkie wrote:On September 22 2014 01:28 pigmanbear wrote:On September 22 2014 01:28 Yorkie wrote:On September 22 2014 01:24 pigmanbear wrote:On September 22 2014 01:23 TheDwf wrote:On September 22 2014 01:21 pigmanbear wrote:
Toss dominance has to consider that most of Kespa chose Protoss. Look at the racial composition of the Kespa cup. So, you have most of the best players using one race and it's going to make Protoss look OP. Yes, meanwhile Terran and Zergs only received scrubs like Bogus, Flash, Soulkey, soO, Jaedong! Numbers are numbers. Most of Kespa went to Protoss. So naming random players means nothing. "Most of Kespa" did not go protoss rofl. Do you even math? Yea, totally: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/KeSPA_Cup Holy shit please tell me you're joking. Kespa cup does not equal Kespa as a whole. it indicates the portion of players (SOME KESPA SOME NOT) that qualified for this tournament. If anything, this is an argument for protoss being too strong. The strongest Kespa players chose Protoss and I'll stand by that. Almost all of the Kespa players chose the race they played in brood war...only Classic switched to Protoss and had a huge increase in success...Are you saying the Brood War protoss players were better than the terranes and zeros all along?
Well Jangbi was, but he quit.
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Sweden471 Posts
On September 22 2014 01:23 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2014 01:21 pigmanbear wrote:
Toss dominance has to consider that most of Kespa chose Protoss. Look at the racial composition of the Kespa cup. So, you have most of the best players using one race and it's going to make Protoss look OP. Yes, meanwhile Terran and Zergs only received scrubs like Bogus, Flash, Soulkey, soO, Jaedong!
That's not at all what he's saying... It's simply that let's say there 15 really good players in a thousand in korea terran has 1000 players zerg 2000 and protoss 5000 there's simply going to be alot more good tosses than zergs and terran.
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On September 22 2014 01:33 Yorkie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2014 01:30 pigmanbear wrote:On September 22 2014 01:30 Yorkie wrote:On September 22 2014 01:28 pigmanbear wrote:On September 22 2014 01:28 Yorkie wrote:On September 22 2014 01:24 pigmanbear wrote:On September 22 2014 01:23 TheDwf wrote:On September 22 2014 01:21 pigmanbear wrote:
Toss dominance has to consider that most of Kespa chose Protoss. Look at the racial composition of the Kespa cup. So, you have most of the best players using one race and it's going to make Protoss look OP. Yes, meanwhile Terran and Zergs only received scrubs like Bogus, Flash, Soulkey, soO, Jaedong! Numbers are numbers. Most of Kespa went to Protoss. So naming random players means nothing. "Most of Kespa" did not go protoss rofl. Do you even math? Yea, totally: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/KeSPA_Cup Holy shit please tell me you're joking. Kespa cup does not equal Kespa as a whole. it indicates the portion of players (SOME KESPA SOME NOT) that qualified for this tournament. If anything, this is an argument for protoss being too strong. The strongest Kespa players chose Protoss and I'll stand by that. Almost all of the Kespa players chose the race they played in brood war...only Classic switched to Protoss and had a huge increase in success...Are you saying the Brood War protoss players were better than the terranes and zeros all along?
Look at all those championships Bisu and Stork won in SC2
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On September 22 2014 01:34 Varroth wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2014 01:23 TheDwf wrote:On September 22 2014 01:21 pigmanbear wrote:
Toss dominance has to consider that most of Kespa chose Protoss. Look at the racial composition of the Kespa cup. So, you have most of the best players using one race and it's going to make Protoss look OP. Yes, meanwhile Terran and Zergs only received scrubs like Bogus, Flash, Soulkey, soO, Jaedong! That's not at all what he's saying... It's simply that let's say there 15 really good players in a thousand in korea terran has 1000 players zerg 2000 and protoss 5000 there's simply going to be alot more good tosses than zergs and terran.
On September 22 2014 01:30 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2014 01:29 stuchiu wrote:
Jin Air: 2 P 2 T 1 Z
SKT: 4 P 3 Z 3 T
KT: 3 P 3 T 2 Z
CJ: 4 P 3 T 1 z
Khan: 3 P 5 Z 3 T
Total: 16 P 12 Z 14 T
MY GOD SO MANY MORE PROTOSS PLAYERS THAN TERRAN IN KESPA??? Oh wait sorry, I guess we should count players that left. So Hyun, Jaedong, Sacsri, Impact and Journey. 16 P 16 Z 15 T
Or in this case there are 16 P 16 Z and 15
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I think we could agree to say that arguing about balance for the time being is preposterous at best and enjoy the games ?
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KeeN still has nightmares about that Whirlwind game vs Bomber.
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I can't wait to see Polt get rekted. I am so excited.
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On September 22 2014 01:34 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2014 01:33 Yorkie wrote:On September 22 2014 01:30 pigmanbear wrote:On September 22 2014 01:30 Yorkie wrote:On September 22 2014 01:28 pigmanbear wrote:On September 22 2014 01:28 Yorkie wrote:On September 22 2014 01:24 pigmanbear wrote:On September 22 2014 01:23 TheDwf wrote:On September 22 2014 01:21 pigmanbear wrote:
Toss dominance has to consider that most of Kespa chose Protoss. Look at the racial composition of the Kespa cup. So, you have most of the best players using one race and it's going to make Protoss look OP. Yes, meanwhile Terran and Zergs only received scrubs like Bogus, Flash, Soulkey, soO, Jaedong! Numbers are numbers. Most of Kespa went to Protoss. So naming random players means nothing. "Most of Kespa" did not go protoss rofl. Do you even math? Yea, totally: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/KeSPA_Cup Holy shit please tell me you're joking. Kespa cup does not equal Kespa as a whole. it indicates the portion of players (SOME KESPA SOME NOT) that qualified for this tournament. If anything, this is an argument for protoss being too strong. The strongest Kespa players chose Protoss and I'll stand by that. Almost all of the Kespa players chose the race they played in brood war...only Classic switched to Protoss and had a huge increase in success...Are you saying the Brood War protoss players were better than the terranes and zeros all along? Well Jangbi was, but he quit.
True that. RIP jangbi 
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On September 22 2014 01:35 TheDwf wrote:
KeeN still has nightmares about that Whirlwind game vs Bomber.
Was that the perfect game? That was amazing.
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On September 22 2014 01:35 TheDwf wrote:
KeeN still has nightmares about that Whirlwind game vs Bomber.
oh god that game was retarded
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On September 22 2014 01:35 [PkF] Wire wrote:
I think we could agree to say that arguing about balance for the time being is preposterous at best and enjoy the games ?
as long as they let go of the there are more kespa protoss arguments.
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On September 22 2014 01:35 usopsama wrote:
I can't wait to see Polt get rekted. I am so excited.
I wouldn't be surprised if he got shut out without even winning a game.
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On September 22 2014 01:36 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2014 01:35 [PkF] Wire wrote:
I think we could agree to say that arguing about balance for the time being is preposterous at best and enjoy the games ? as long as they let go of the there are more kespa protoss arguments.
"We can stop arguing as long as you admit I was right."
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Surprised Bomber went mech :/
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On September 22 2014 01:36 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2014 01:36 stuchiu wrote:On September 22 2014 01:35 [PkF] Wire wrote:
I think we could agree to say that arguing about balance for the time being is preposterous at best and enjoy the games ? as long as they let go of the there are more kespa protoss arguments. "We can stop arguing as long as you admit I was right."
The numbers are right there though.
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I LOVE YOUUUU THAT WAS SO GOOD
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Dayumm Polt just got cleaned up.
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On September 22 2014 01:36 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2014 01:36 stuchiu wrote:On September 22 2014 01:35 [PkF] Wire wrote:
I think we could agree to say that arguing about balance for the time being is preposterous at best and enjoy the games ? as long as they let go of the there are more kespa protoss arguments. "We can stop arguing as long as you admit I was right."
"We can stop arguing as long as you realize that my argument is supported by facts" is what he's saying. Seriously the numbers don't lie, you can't argue against Stuchiu's position here
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On September 22 2014 01:33 Yorkie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2014 01:30 pigmanbear wrote:On September 22 2014 01:30 Yorkie wrote:On September 22 2014 01:28 pigmanbear wrote:On September 22 2014 01:28 Yorkie wrote:On September 22 2014 01:24 pigmanbear wrote:On September 22 2014 01:23 TheDwf wrote:On September 22 2014 01:21 pigmanbear wrote:
Toss dominance has to consider that most of Kespa chose Protoss. Look at the racial composition of the Kespa cup. So, you have most of the best players using one race and it's going to make Protoss look OP. Yes, meanwhile Terran and Zergs only received scrubs like Bogus, Flash, Soulkey, soO, Jaedong! Numbers are numbers. Most of Kespa went to Protoss. So naming random players means nothing. "Most of Kespa" did not go protoss rofl. Do you even math? Yea, totally: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/KeSPA_Cup Holy shit please tell me you're joking. Kespa cup does not equal Kespa as a whole. it indicates the portion of players (SOME KESPA SOME NOT) that qualified for this tournament. If anything, this is an argument for protoss being too strong. The strongest Kespa players chose Protoss and I'll stand by that. Almost all of the Kespa players chose the race they played in brood war...only Classic switched to Protoss and had a huge increase in success...Are you saying the Brood War protoss players were better than the terranes and zeros all along?
It's plain that the best SC2 Kespa players are Protoss (herO, Zest, Trap, sOs, Classic). Zerg has ... JD and Soulkey, maybe soO. Terran has ... Innovation, maybe Flash.
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Sweden471 Posts
On September 22 2014 01:34 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2014 01:34 Varroth wrote:On September 22 2014 01:23 TheDwf wrote:On September 22 2014 01:21 pigmanbear wrote:
Toss dominance has to consider that most of Kespa chose Protoss. Look at the racial composition of the Kespa cup. So, you have most of the best players using one race and it's going to make Protoss look OP. Yes, meanwhile Terran and Zergs only received scrubs like Bogus, Flash, Soulkey, soO, Jaedong! That's not at all what he's saying... It's simply that let's say there 15 really good players in a thousand in korea terran has 1000 players zerg 2000 and protoss 5000 there's simply going to be alot more good tosses than zergs and terran. Show nested quote +On September 22 2014 01:30 stuchiu wrote:On September 22 2014 01:29 stuchiu wrote:
Jin Air: 2 P 2 T 1 Z
SKT: 4 P 3 Z 3 T
KT: 3 P 3 T 2 Z
CJ: 4 P 3 T 1 z
Khan: 3 P 5 Z 3 T
Total: 16 P 12 Z 14 T
MY GOD SO MANY MORE PROTOSS PLAYERS THAN TERRAN IN KESPA??? Oh wait sorry, I guess we should count players that left. So Hyun, Jaedong, Sacsri, Impact and Journey. 16 P 16 Z 15 T Or in this case there are 16 P 16 Z and 15
I'm not saying what he's saying is correct I'm simply explaining what he meant.
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