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TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
September 20 2014 16:08 GMT
#541
On September 21 2014 01:07 Superbanana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2014 01:03 TheDwf wrote:
On September 21 2014 00:59 Yorkie wrote:
On September 21 2014 00:58 TheDwf wrote:
On September 21 2014 00:55 KaneMX wrote:
On September 21 2014 00:51 Superbanana wrote:
On September 21 2014 00:48 KaneMX wrote:
On September 21 2014 00:46 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
And that's why you need to punish bomber early

or use baneling landmines


Or use Swarmhosts. I think Snute is right, going ling/bling/muta is out of date.

Bomber is not going for hellbat pushes or mine heavy play, mutaling bane is supposed to work vs this


But it doesn't work against decent Terrans anymore. Atleast if they do not make crucial mistakes. They got to the point where cost efficiency of bio/mine/medivac has become ridiciolous. The only unit in Zerg's arsenal to keep up in terms of cost efficiency is the swarmhost.

Bla, bla, bla. Lings/banes/mutas has zero trouble competing against 4M.

What a well supported and convincing argument!

Why would I need to elaborate when the composition is the undisputed standard since 18 months regardless of what low level Zergs think about it...

Its not as standard anymore, and terran was patched recently...Some top koreans agree that its an outdated composition and just play roach hydra, cheese or try to get a hive o_O

Who/where?
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
September 20 2014 16:09 GMT
#542
On September 21 2014 01:08 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2014 01:05 Darkhorse wrote:
On September 21 2014 01:04 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On September 21 2014 01:02 Lorning wrote:
On September 21 2014 01:01 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On September 21 2014 00:59 AWalker9 wrote:
On September 21 2014 00:58 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Oh, did I miss anything interesting so far?


Happy Birthday!
You arrived just in time for the PvP


It's just my TL birthday, real one's tomorrow

And yeah I know, I was watching Rain until now :D

Why would you want to see Rain getting rekt by Zest again

Watch MKP win the olimoleague instead
http://www.twitch.tv/basetradetv


Again? I didn't see it yesterday, I was out with 39+ degrees fever

Could barely keep myself awake D:

Wow and regular body temp is 98.6. 39 degrees is pretty cold!


Sorry, I meant the temperature measurement system that isn't exclusively used by silly people D:

:D I play the part of the dumb American pretty well
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
September 20 2014 16:09 GMT
#543
On September 21 2014 01:08 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2014 01:05 Darkhorse wrote:
On September 21 2014 01:04 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On September 21 2014 01:02 Lorning wrote:
On September 21 2014 01:01 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On September 21 2014 00:59 AWalker9 wrote:
On September 21 2014 00:58 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Oh, did I miss anything interesting so far?


Happy Birthday!
You arrived just in time for the PvP


It's just my TL birthday, real one's tomorrow

And yeah I know, I was watching Rain until now :D

Why would you want to see Rain getting rekt by Zest again

Watch MKP win the olimoleague instead
http://www.twitch.tv/basetradetv


Again? I didn't see it yesterday, I was out with 39+ degrees fever

Could barely keep myself awake D:

Wow and regular body temp is 98.6. 39 degrees is pretty cold!


Sorry, I meant the temperature measurement system that isn't exclusively used by silly people D:

dunno, 39 degree kelvin is pretty cold too
TL+ Member
juvenal
Profile Joined July 2013
2448 Posts
September 20 2014 16:09 GMT
#544
Sos is like "you newbs gimme that"
Michael Probu
babobbyj
Profile Joined June 2013
636 Posts
September 20 2014 16:09 GMT
#545
omg so hungover today, watching this is a great cure
Bad Ass Bobby Johnson, a.k.a. Valiante
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
September 20 2014 16:10 GMT
#546
On September 21 2014 01:08 Noonius wrote:
a move has been confirmed

b move is blink but what is c move?
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Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
September 20 2014 16:10 GMT
#547
Doesn't the desk hide the screen (at least a portion) for the spectators in the first row ?
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10093 Posts
September 20 2014 16:10 GMT
#548
On September 21 2014 01:10 Undead1993 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2014 01:08 Noonius wrote:
a move has been confirmed

b move is blink but what is c move?

forCe field
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
September 20 2014 16:10 GMT
#549
On September 21 2014 01:08 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2014 01:05 Darkhorse wrote:
On September 21 2014 01:04 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On September 21 2014 01:02 Lorning wrote:
On September 21 2014 01:01 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On September 21 2014 00:59 AWalker9 wrote:
On September 21 2014 00:58 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Oh, did I miss anything interesting so far?


Happy Birthday!
You arrived just in time for the PvP


It's just my TL birthday, real one's tomorrow

And yeah I know, I was watching Rain until now :D

Why would you want to see Rain getting rekt by Zest again

Watch MKP win the olimoleague instead
http://www.twitch.tv/basetradetv


Again? I didn't see it yesterday, I was out with 39+ degrees fever

Could barely keep myself awake D:

Wow and regular body temp is 98.6. 39 degrees is pretty cold!


Sorry, I meant the temperature measurement system that isn't exclusively used by silly people D:


Yeah, that's what they were using.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
September 20 2014 16:10 GMT
#550
On September 21 2014 01:09 babobbyj wrote:
omg so hungover today, watching this is a great cure

Nono Cure plays later. These are his two teammates!
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Tamagoshi
Profile Joined September 2012
Brazil981 Posts
September 20 2014 16:10 GMT
#551
On September 21 2014 01:09 Paljas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2014 01:08 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On September 21 2014 01:05 Darkhorse wrote:
On September 21 2014 01:04 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On September 21 2014 01:02 Lorning wrote:
On September 21 2014 01:01 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On September 21 2014 00:59 AWalker9 wrote:
On September 21 2014 00:58 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Oh, did I miss anything interesting so far?


Happy Birthday!
You arrived just in time for the PvP


It's just my TL birthday, real one's tomorrow

And yeah I know, I was watching Rain until now :D

Why would you want to see Rain getting rekt by Zest again

Watch MKP win the olimoleague instead
http://www.twitch.tv/basetradetv


Again? I didn't see it yesterday, I was out with 39+ degrees fever

Could barely keep myself awake D:

Wow and regular body temp is 98.6. 39 degrees is pretty cold!


Sorry, I meant the temperature measurement system that isn't exclusively used by silly people D:

dunno, 39 degree kelvin is pretty cold too

Kevin does not use "degree” actually
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
September 20 2014 16:10 GMT
#552
On September 21 2014 01:09 babobbyj wrote:
omg so hungover today, watching this is a great cure


Cure is playing, not watching!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
KaneMX
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany151 Posts
September 20 2014 16:10 GMT
#553
On September 21 2014 01:07 Superbanana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2014 01:03 TheDwf wrote:
On September 21 2014 00:59 Yorkie wrote:
On September 21 2014 00:58 TheDwf wrote:
On September 21 2014 00:55 KaneMX wrote:
On September 21 2014 00:51 Superbanana wrote:
On September 21 2014 00:48 KaneMX wrote:
On September 21 2014 00:46 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
And that's why you need to punish bomber early

or use baneling landmines


Or use Swarmhosts. I think Snute is right, going ling/bling/muta is out of date.

Bomber is not going for hellbat pushes or mine heavy play, mutaling bane is supposed to work vs this


But it doesn't work against decent Terrans anymore. Atleast if they do not make crucial mistakes. They got to the point where cost efficiency of bio/mine/medivac has become ridiciolous. The only unit in Zerg's arsenal to keep up in terms of cost efficiency is the swarmhost.

Bla, bla, bla. Lings/banes/mutas has zero trouble competing against 4M.

What a well supported and convincing argument!

Why would I need to elaborate when the composition is the undisputed standard since 18 months regardless of what low level Zergs think about it...

Its not as standard anymore, and terran was patched recently...Some top koreans agree that its an outdated composition and just play roach hydra, cheese or try to get a hive o_O


I dont build mutas in 2 out of 3 ZvTs I play. Going with roach-allins, straight up hive or swarmhosts. Works way better for me, especially since Terrans seem to have trouble to get used to it.
TokO: "Starcraft 2 is after all a game of 'being the bigger dick' to the opponent."
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
September 20 2014 16:11 GMT
#554
On September 21 2014 01:10 Undead1993 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2014 01:08 Noonius wrote:
a move has been confirmed

b move is blink but what is c move?

Maybe the new way Zergs depict Cannon rushes? haha
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10093 Posts
September 20 2014 16:11 GMT
#555
Glorious MKP pulling the boys vs roach hydra
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
September 20 2014 16:11 GMT
#556
On September 21 2014 01:10 Undead1993 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2014 01:08 Noonius wrote:
a move has been confirmed

b move is blink but what is c move?


We should be able to chronoboost units for additional movement/attack speed

Like stim for protoss
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Wasaru
Profile Joined September 2014
United States91 Posts
September 20 2014 16:11 GMT
#557
why would Red Bull make it so a PvP is the second match of the day. really kills the hype
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
September 20 2014 16:11 GMT
#558
On September 21 2014 01:10 KaneMX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2014 01:07 Superbanana wrote:
On September 21 2014 01:03 TheDwf wrote:
On September 21 2014 00:59 Yorkie wrote:
On September 21 2014 00:58 TheDwf wrote:
On September 21 2014 00:55 KaneMX wrote:
On September 21 2014 00:51 Superbanana wrote:
On September 21 2014 00:48 KaneMX wrote:
On September 21 2014 00:46 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
And that's why you need to punish bomber early

or use baneling landmines


Or use Swarmhosts. I think Snute is right, going ling/bling/muta is out of date.

Bomber is not going for hellbat pushes or mine heavy play, mutaling bane is supposed to work vs this


But it doesn't work against decent Terrans anymore. Atleast if they do not make crucial mistakes. They got to the point where cost efficiency of bio/mine/medivac has become ridiciolous. The only unit in Zerg's arsenal to keep up in terms of cost efficiency is the swarmhost.

Bla, bla, bla. Lings/banes/mutas has zero trouble competing against 4M.

What a well supported and convincing argument!

Why would I need to elaborate when the composition is the undisputed standard since 18 months regardless of what low level Zergs think about it...

Its not as standard anymore, and terran was patched recently...Some top koreans agree that its an outdated composition and just play roach hydra, cheese or try to get a hive o_O


I dont build mutas in 2 out of 3 ZvTs I play. Going with roach-allins, straight up hive or swarmhosts. Works way better for me, especially since Terrans seem to have trouble to get used to it.

I have waaaaaaayyyyyy more trouble against mutas/banes but maybe that's just me.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Superbanana
Profile Joined May 2014
2369 Posts
September 20 2014 16:11 GMT
#559
On September 21 2014 01:08 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2014 01:07 Superbanana wrote:
On September 21 2014 01:03 TheDwf wrote:
On September 21 2014 00:59 Yorkie wrote:
On September 21 2014 00:58 TheDwf wrote:
On September 21 2014 00:55 KaneMX wrote:
On September 21 2014 00:51 Superbanana wrote:
On September 21 2014 00:48 KaneMX wrote:
On September 21 2014 00:46 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
And that's why you need to punish bomber early

or use baneling landmines


Or use Swarmhosts. I think Snute is right, going ling/bling/muta is out of date.

Bomber is not going for hellbat pushes or mine heavy play, mutaling bane is supposed to work vs this


But it doesn't work against decent Terrans anymore. Atleast if they do not make crucial mistakes. They got to the point where cost efficiency of bio/mine/medivac has become ridiciolous. The only unit in Zerg's arsenal to keep up in terms of cost efficiency is the swarmhost.

Bla, bla, bla. Lings/banes/mutas has zero trouble competing against 4M.

What a well supported and convincing argument!

Why would I need to elaborate when the composition is the undisputed standard since 18 months regardless of what low level Zergs think about it...

Its not as standard anymore, and terran was patched recently...Some top koreans agree that its an outdated composition and just play roach hydra, cheese or try to get a hive o_O

Who/where?

At least Hyun but roach hydra is much more common, outdated was a harsh word but my point is that zerg is trying different stuff specifically because mutaling bane is not as efficient anymore. Most zergs are doing it.
In PvZ the zerg can make the situation spire out of control but protoss can adept to the situation.
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
September 20 2014 16:12 GMT
#560
On September 21 2014 01:11 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2014 01:10 Undead1993 wrote:
On September 21 2014 01:08 Noonius wrote:
a move has been confirmed

b move is blink but what is c move?


We should be able to chronoboost units for additional movement/attack speed

Like stim for protoss

LOTV pls. a great idea
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