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usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
September 13 2014 06:15 GMT
#581
Kespa Cup Semifinals = Kespa only.

This is only expected.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
September 13 2014 06:15 GMT
#582
On September 13 2014 15:14 orvinreyes wrote:
So guys did Kespa prove anything?


That Rain should come back to the zoo?
Moderator
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16849 Posts
September 13 2014 06:16 GMT
#583
On September 13 2014 15:13 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2014 15:09 bo1b wrote:
On September 13 2014 15:08 stuchiu wrote:
On September 13 2014 15:06 bo1b wrote:
On September 13 2014 15:03 stuchiu wrote:
On September 13 2014 15:02 bo1b wrote:
On September 13 2014 15:01 stuchiu wrote:
On September 13 2014 14:58 bo1b wrote:
On September 13 2014 14:57 stuchiu wrote:
On September 13 2014 14:56 usopsama wrote:
[quote]
Yeah..... I will probably continue to cheer for Rain, Hydra, and Effort (But not Parting).


the fuck did parting do?

He wasn't an elephant I'm guessing.


But none of those other guys were elephants. Maybe Effort if you're really stretching.

By.Sun and Hydra most certainly were veteran broodwar players


the article was talking about only the greatest BW players as elephants.

Wasn't it talking about A-teamers?




Among this group there are a notable few that CRUSH any other players in terms of raw talent and/or work ethic and/or ability to learn. This knowledge cheapens any form of competition I see right now, no matter how much I try to enjoy the games.


I hate that I'm he only one who read the article.

The first three fucking words dude

elephantception

Show nested quote +

You see IM.Mvp and think he's the best Terran. But he's the only legitimate A-team pro (and a mediocre one at that) to transfer over. Nobody else has. Imagine there are hundreds of guys like him, with the same raw ability and mindset. They could be worse, or better, or exactly the same. Now imagine there are two, maybe three, that are just flat out better than Mvp at speed, precision, multitasking, and raw ability. Not just "a little better" but way better. But that's not what separates them from him. Flash and Jaedong, when motivated, have a mindset and work ethic that is unmatched by any other RTS professional.

Maybe Leta or Sea or Best or Zero won't come into SC2 and be ultra-successful if they switch. But Jaedong and Flash? They are outliers. They do not conform to the normal rules, and everyone who has followed Brood War knows that if they switch, it's not a question of if they will dominate and win, but when.

The "different game" argument applies to 99.9% of progamers, but not for special players like Jaedong and Flash. The game doesn't matter.


The article isn't about Kespa's superior training regime. Everyone knows that if you practice 16 hour a day with a support team and a regimented schedule, you'll be better. It's about the bonjwas, the greats, the outliers of BW coming in to kill SC2 competition. Flash, Jaedong, Bisu, Jangbi, Fantays, Stork

It's ok, man. The term has evolved because of incorrect usage.
The Bomber boy
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17750 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-13 06:16:32
September 13 2014 06:16 GMT
#584
On September 13 2014 15:13 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2014 15:09 bo1b wrote:
On September 13 2014 15:08 stuchiu wrote:
On September 13 2014 15:06 bo1b wrote:
On September 13 2014 15:03 stuchiu wrote:
On September 13 2014 15:02 bo1b wrote:
On September 13 2014 15:01 stuchiu wrote:
On September 13 2014 14:58 bo1b wrote:
On September 13 2014 14:57 stuchiu wrote:
On September 13 2014 14:56 usopsama wrote:
[quote]
Yeah..... I will probably continue to cheer for Rain, Hydra, and Effort (But not Parting).


the fuck did parting do?

He wasn't an elephant I'm guessing.


But none of those other guys were elephants. Maybe Effort if you're really stretching.

By.Sun and Hydra most certainly were veteran broodwar players


the article was talking about only the greatest BW players as elephants.

Wasn't it talking about A-teamers?




Among this group there are a notable few that CRUSH any other players in terms of raw talent and/or work ethic and/or ability to learn. This knowledge cheapens any form of competition I see right now, no matter how much I try to enjoy the games.


I hate that I'm he only one who read the article.

The first three fucking words dude

elephantception

Show nested quote +

You see IM.Mvp and think he's the best Terran. But he's the only legitimate A-team pro (and a mediocre one at that) to transfer over. Nobody else has. Imagine there are hundreds of guys like him, with the same raw ability and mindset. They could be worse, or better, or exactly the same. Now imagine there are two, maybe three, that are just flat out better than Mvp at speed, precision, multitasking, and raw ability. Not just "a little better" but way better. But that's not what separates them from him. Flash and Jaedong, when motivated, have a mindset and work ethic that is unmatched by any other RTS professional.

Maybe Leta or Sea or Best or Zero won't come into SC2 and be ultra-successful if they switch. But Jaedong and Flash? They are outliers. They do not conform to the normal rules, and everyone who has followed Brood War knows that if they switch, it's not a question of if they will dominate and win, but when.

The "different game" argument applies to 99.9% of progamers, but not for special players like Jaedong and Flash. The game doesn't matter.


The article isn't about Kespa's superior training regime. Everyone knows that if you practice 16 hour a day with a support team and a regimented schedule, you'll be better. It's about the bonjwas, the greats, the outliers of BW coming in to kill SC2 competition. Flash, Jaedong, Bisu, Jangbi, Fantays, Stork

lol it's so funny to read that again now, was funny then too, but even funnier now
"Expert" mods4ever.com
orvinreyes
Profile Joined June 2007
577 Posts
September 13 2014 06:16 GMT
#585
On September 13 2014 15:15 usopsama wrote:
Kespa Cup Semifinals = Kespa only.

This is only expected.


Even Rain got eliminated just when he quit Kespa. Lol
http://youtu.be/LfmrHTdXgK4
DMXD
Profile Joined February 2008
United States4064 Posts
September 13 2014 06:16 GMT
#586
suck to see a terran fall but I like CJ.Hero
so that is ok I guess
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5617 Posts
September 13 2014 06:16 GMT
#587
On September 13 2014 15:11 Lunareste wrote:
Do you guys think Maru would have been a top 2 Terran in Brood War?

I think he would have had retardedly good TvZ, but I don't think his heavy offensive style would have worked as well in TvP or TvT

Ita impossible to say how he would handle macro stuff that arent in the game anymore but he is incredibly smart, got good timing, micro and mindset. Maybe he would have been a new upmagic or leta <3
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
Lunareste
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3596 Posts
September 13 2014 06:16 GMT
#588
On September 13 2014 15:11 Lunareste wrote:
Do you guys think Maru would have been a top 2 Terran in Brood War?

I think he would have had retardedly good TvZ, but I don't think his heavy offensive style would have worked as well in TvP or TvT


I know it got lost in the cheese, but cmon guys =/ Let's hear some answers
KT FlaSh FOREVER
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
September 13 2014 06:17 GMT
#589
On September 13 2014 15:13 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2014 15:09 bo1b wrote:
On September 13 2014 15:08 stuchiu wrote:
On September 13 2014 15:06 bo1b wrote:
On September 13 2014 15:03 stuchiu wrote:
On September 13 2014 15:02 bo1b wrote:
On September 13 2014 15:01 stuchiu wrote:
On September 13 2014 14:58 bo1b wrote:
On September 13 2014 14:57 stuchiu wrote:
On September 13 2014 14:56 usopsama wrote:
[quote]
Yeah..... I will probably continue to cheer for Rain, Hydra, and Effort (But not Parting).


the fuck did parting do?

He wasn't an elephant I'm guessing.


But none of those other guys were elephants. Maybe Effort if you're really stretching.

By.Sun and Hydra most certainly were veteran broodwar players


the article was talking about only the greatest BW players as elephants.

Wasn't it talking about A-teamers?




Among this group there are a notable few that CRUSH any other players in terms of raw talent and/or work ethic and/or ability to learn. This knowledge cheapens any form of competition I see right now, no matter how much I try to enjoy the games.


I hate that I'm he only one who read the article.

The first three fucking words dude

elephantception

Show nested quote +

You see IM.Mvp and think he's the best Terran. But he's the only legitimate A-team pro (and a mediocre one at that) to transfer over. Nobody else has. Imagine there are hundreds of guys like him, with the same raw ability and mindset. They could be worse, or better, or exactly the same. Now imagine there are two, maybe three, that are just flat out better than Mvp at speed, precision, multitasking, and raw ability. Not just "a little better" but way better. But that's not what separates them from him. Flash and Jaedong, when motivated, have a mindset and work ethic that is unmatched by any other RTS professional.

Maybe Leta or Sea or Best or Zero won't come into SC2 and be ultra-successful if they switch. But Jaedong and Flash? They are outliers. They do not conform to the normal rules, and everyone who has followed Brood War knows that if they switch, it's not a question of if they will dominate and win, but when.

The "different game" argument applies to 99.9% of progamers, but not for special players like Jaedong and Flash. The game doesn't matter.


The article isn't about Kespa's superior training regime. Everyone knows that if you practice 16 hour a day with a support team and a regimented schedule, you'll be better. It's about the bonjwas, the greats, the outliers of BW coming in to kill SC2 competition. Flash, Jaedong, Bisu, Jangbi, Fantays, Stork

Are you serious? The whole article is stating the competition is a farce, and hinging it on mvp being the only kespa a teamer to transfer across, and the player to be doing very well.

The fact it then says Jaedong/flash logically would dominate even harder is irrelevant, it's also why the article is completely wrong, as it's been proven time and again that the players who should have dominated harder then others simply haven't. Doesn't mean rain/effort/hydra aren't elephants though, especially as the zeitgeist on teamliquid is broodwar a-teamers=elephants.
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16849 Posts
September 13 2014 06:17 GMT
#590
my feelings right now. herO is a good player. This was the only way I'd accept him losing, and this way, we might even see some cooler players at BlizzCon. I like herO as well.
The Bomber boy
Loccstana
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
United States833 Posts
September 13 2014 06:17 GMT
#591
Flash vs Zest finals, Im calling it.
[url]http://i.imgur.com/lw2yN.jpg[/url]
Thrillz
Profile Joined May 2012
4313 Posts
September 13 2014 06:17 GMT
#592
On September 13 2014 15:13 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2014 15:09 bo1b wrote:
On September 13 2014 15:08 stuchiu wrote:
On September 13 2014 15:06 bo1b wrote:
On September 13 2014 15:03 stuchiu wrote:
On September 13 2014 15:02 bo1b wrote:
On September 13 2014 15:01 stuchiu wrote:
On September 13 2014 14:58 bo1b wrote:
On September 13 2014 14:57 stuchiu wrote:
On September 13 2014 14:56 usopsama wrote:
[quote]
Yeah..... I will probably continue to cheer for Rain, Hydra, and Effort (But not Parting).


the fuck did parting do?

He wasn't an elephant I'm guessing.


But none of those other guys were elephants. Maybe Effort if you're really stretching.

By.Sun and Hydra most certainly were veteran broodwar players


the article was talking about only the greatest BW players as elephants.

Wasn't it talking about A-teamers?




Among this group there are a notable few that CRUSH any other players in terms of raw talent and/or work ethic and/or ability to learn. This knowledge cheapens any form of competition I see right now, no matter how much I try to enjoy the games.


I hate that I'm he only one who read the article.

The first three fucking words dude

elephantception

Show nested quote +

You see IM.Mvp and think he's the best Terran. But he's the only legitimate A-team pro (and a mediocre one at that) to transfer over. Nobody else has. Imagine there are hundreds of guys like him, with the same raw ability and mindset. They could be worse, or better, or exactly the same. Now imagine there are two, maybe three, that are just flat out better than Mvp at speed, precision, multitasking, and raw ability. Not just "a little better" but way better. But that's not what separates them from him. Flash and Jaedong, when motivated, have a mindset and work ethic that is unmatched by any other RTS professional.

Maybe Leta or Sea or Best or Zero won't come into SC2 and be ultra-successful if they switch. But Jaedong and Flash? They are outliers. They do not conform to the normal rules, and everyone who has followed Brood War knows that if they switch, it's not a question of if they will dominate and win, but when.

The "different game" argument applies to 99.9% of progamers, but not for special players like Jaedong and Flash. The game doesn't matter.


The article isn't about Kespa's superior training regime. Everyone knows that if you practice 16 hour a day with a support team and a regimented schedule, you'll be better. It's about the bonjwas, the greats, the outliers of BW coming in to kill SC2 competition. Flash, Jaedong, Bisu, Jangbi, Fantays, Stork


Elephant term died a long time ago. See how seldom it's being used now? Looking back at it is pretty funny lmao.
Itsraiiningpaper
Profile Joined November 2009
United States25 Posts
September 13 2014 06:18 GMT
#593
is the stream working for anybody else? the english one, i mean (sc2proleague)
inbox24
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia344 Posts
September 13 2014 06:18 GMT
#594
No IeSF players!

Woot
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
September 13 2014 06:18 GMT
#595
Flash vs herO as a rematch of the Shoutcraft Invitational finals. I hope Flash prevails but it'll be tough.

Another Flash vs Zest finals would be nice.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
ilikeredheads
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1995 Posts
September 13 2014 06:18 GMT
#596
On September 13 2014 15:18 Itsraiiningpaper wrote:
is the stream working for anybody else? the english one, i mean (sc2proleague)

stream has been fine, for me at least.
DMXD
Profile Joined February 2008
United States4064 Posts
September 13 2014 06:19 GMT
#597
On September 13 2014 15:17 Loccstana wrote:
Flash vs Zest finals, Im calling it.

no
team matches are terrible =(
MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
September 13 2014 06:19 GMT
#598
all streams for me not working /
Progamerpls no copy pasterino
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
September 13 2014 06:19 GMT
#599
That air horn rofl. Keep thinking theres a cod montage in the background
ChaseTheSun
Profile Joined May 2014
United States61 Posts
September 13 2014 06:19 GMT
#600
On September 13 2014 15:18 Itsraiiningpaper wrote:
is the stream working for anybody else? the english one, i mean (sc2proleague)


Isn't working for me right now either D:
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