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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
July 29 2014 20:03 GMT
#661
On July 30 2014 05:01 Undead1993 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2014 05:00 Darkhorse wrote:
On July 30 2014 04:59 HEADD wrote:
On July 30 2014 04:51 Darkhorse wrote:
On July 30 2014 04:50 HEADD wrote:
So i was right when i say when bunny beat scarlett he can beat every zerg

Yeah but you are blaming balance… also beating Sacsri means he can beat any zerg? You really don't like having good sample sizes do you?

Yeah but look at recent results.Masa win canada IEM and now bunny defeat DH champion.Both TvZ.

You aren't getting this sample size thing are you? Hitman beat Cure and Rogue beat TY last night in ZvT Zerg is overpowered oh the humanity!

See how uninformed that sounds? You are picking results that fit your narrative

are you trump

Not that I know of. Why?
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Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
July 29 2014 20:04 GMT
#662
No forge. Must be going for double in a bit.
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
July 29 2014 20:04 GMT
#663
On July 30 2014 05:03 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2014 05:01 Undead1993 wrote:
On July 30 2014 05:00 Darkhorse wrote:
On July 30 2014 04:59 HEADD wrote:
On July 30 2014 04:51 Darkhorse wrote:
On July 30 2014 04:50 HEADD wrote:
So i was right when i say when bunny beat scarlett he can beat every zerg

Yeah but you are blaming balance… also beating Sacsri means he can beat any zerg? You really don't like having good sample sizes do you?

Yeah but look at recent results.Masa win canada IEM and now bunny defeat DH champion.Both TvZ.

You aren't getting this sample size thing are you? Hitman beat Cure and Rogue beat TY last night in ZvT Zerg is overpowered oh the humanity!

See how uninformed that sounds? You are picking results that fit your narrative

are you trump

Not that I know of. Why?

i never heard someone say or write "oh the humanity" before i watched trump, and now you wrote this, coincidence? i think not
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
July 29 2014 20:06 GMT
#664
On July 30 2014 05:04 Undead1993 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2014 05:03 Darkhorse wrote:
On July 30 2014 05:01 Undead1993 wrote:
On July 30 2014 05:00 Darkhorse wrote:
On July 30 2014 04:59 HEADD wrote:
On July 30 2014 04:51 Darkhorse wrote:
On July 30 2014 04:50 HEADD wrote:
So i was right when i say when bunny beat scarlett he can beat every zerg

Yeah but you are blaming balance… also beating Sacsri means he can beat any zerg? You really don't like having good sample sizes do you?

Yeah but look at recent results.Masa win canada IEM and now bunny defeat DH champion.Both TvZ.

You aren't getting this sample size thing are you? Hitman beat Cure and Rogue beat TY last night in ZvT Zerg is overpowered oh the humanity!

See how uninformed that sounds? You are picking results that fit your narrative

are you trump

Not that I know of. Why?

i never heard someone say or write "oh the humanity" before i watched trump, and now you wrote this, coincidence? i think not

You got me I am secret Trump :D
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Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
July 29 2014 20:07 GMT
#665
On July 30 2014 05:02 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2014 05:00 Paljas wrote:
On July 30 2014 04:53 Darkhorse wrote:
On July 30 2014 04:52 Paljas wrote:
the mine buff and the thor buff looks very strong
kinda worried about TvZ but i'll wait a bit

Eh tbh 2 of Bunny's 3 wins didn't involve either unit really. Sacsri seemed able to deal with it in the first two games.

Sucks that we won't see both of these players in Premier but congrats Bunny!

mines and thors heavily played a role in game 3 and game 5

and sacsris faild roaches are proably due to hellbat pushes, something which didnt exist pre mine nerf

Game 3 Sacsri was so far behind from the 2 rax that it didn't really matter

Also Sacsri reacted to the potential hellbats with roaches but I don't see how the new patch affected that.

pretty sure that sacsri would have won both games pre patch. (dont saying that that would have been good)

also, many people regarded the TvZ as pretty balanced with the old mine.

than, mine got nerfed and terran buffs to compensate: better tanks, better upgrade system, stronger hellbat pushes.
now, they revert the mine nerf and buff the thor on top off it.
Terran being a little to strong seems very likely, considering that a balanced match up (old mine TvZ) got changed with nothing but terran buffs.

meanwhile, Zerg got better hydras
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Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
July 29 2014 20:10 GMT
#666
Wow StarNaN plays like me. A lot better of course, but everything he does reminds me of what I do. Maybe I should watch some more of his games.
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
July 29 2014 20:10 GMT
#667
On July 30 2014 05:07 Paljas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2014 05:02 Darkhorse wrote:
On July 30 2014 05:00 Paljas wrote:
On July 30 2014 04:53 Darkhorse wrote:
On July 30 2014 04:52 Paljas wrote:
the mine buff and the thor buff looks very strong
kinda worried about TvZ but i'll wait a bit

Eh tbh 2 of Bunny's 3 wins didn't involve either unit really. Sacsri seemed able to deal with it in the first two games.

Sucks that we won't see both of these players in Premier but congrats Bunny!

mines and thors heavily played a role in game 3 and game 5

and sacsris faild roaches are proably due to hellbat pushes, something which didnt exist pre mine nerf

Game 3 Sacsri was so far behind from the 2 rax that it didn't really matter

Also Sacsri reacted to the potential hellbats with roaches but I don't see how the new patch affected that.

pretty sure that sacsri would have won both games pre patch. (dont saying that that would have been good)

also, many people regarded the TvZ as pretty balanced with the old mine.

than, mine got nerfed and terran buffs to compensate: better tanks, better upgrade system, stronger hellbat pushes.
now, they revert the mine nerf and buff the thor on top off it.
Terran being a little to strong seems very likely, considering that a balanced match up (old mine TvZ) got changed with nothing but terran buffs.

meanwhile, Zerg got better hydras

I disagree on game 3 but we can agree to disagree. Terran may be a little strong atm but we'll have to wait and see. They've been weak for quite a while.
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Topdoller
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3860 Posts
July 29 2014 20:11 GMT
#668
On July 30 2014 05:07 Paljas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2014 05:02 Darkhorse wrote:
On July 30 2014 05:00 Paljas wrote:
On July 30 2014 04:53 Darkhorse wrote:
On July 30 2014 04:52 Paljas wrote:
the mine buff and the thor buff looks very strong
kinda worried about TvZ but i'll wait a bit

Eh tbh 2 of Bunny's 3 wins didn't involve either unit really. Sacsri seemed able to deal with it in the first two games.

Sucks that we won't see both of these players in Premier but congrats Bunny!

mines and thors heavily played a role in game 3 and game 5

and sacsris faild roaches are proably due to hellbat pushes, something which didnt exist pre mine nerf

Game 3 Sacsri was so far behind from the 2 rax that it didn't really matter

Also Sacsri reacted to the potential hellbats with roaches but I don't see how the new patch affected that.

pretty sure that sacsri would have won both games pre patch. (dont saying that that would have been good)

also, many people regarded the TvZ as pretty balanced with the old mine.

than, mine got nerfed and terran buffs to compensate: better tanks, better upgrade system, stronger hellbat pushes.
now, they revert the mine nerf and buff the thor on top off it.
Terran being a little to strong seems very likely, considering that a balanced match up (old mine TvZ) got changed with nothing but terran buffs.

meanwhile, Zerg got better hydras


Its a little early for posts like this, wait 6 months and see how it goes. Personally speaking its Protoss thats giving the 2 other races the worst troubles and i dont think this patch will alter that, although Fantasy did show some promise with heavy widow mine usages in Pro-league a few days ago
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
July 29 2014 20:12 GMT
#669
On July 30 2014 05:11 Topdoller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2014 05:07 Paljas wrote:
On July 30 2014 05:02 Darkhorse wrote:
On July 30 2014 05:00 Paljas wrote:
On July 30 2014 04:53 Darkhorse wrote:
On July 30 2014 04:52 Paljas wrote:
the mine buff and the thor buff looks very strong
kinda worried about TvZ but i'll wait a bit

Eh tbh 2 of Bunny's 3 wins didn't involve either unit really. Sacsri seemed able to deal with it in the first two games.

Sucks that we won't see both of these players in Premier but congrats Bunny!

mines and thors heavily played a role in game 3 and game 5

and sacsris faild roaches are proably due to hellbat pushes, something which didnt exist pre mine nerf

Game 3 Sacsri was so far behind from the 2 rax that it didn't really matter

Also Sacsri reacted to the potential hellbats with roaches but I don't see how the new patch affected that.

pretty sure that sacsri would have won both games pre patch. (dont saying that that would have been good)

also, many people regarded the TvZ as pretty balanced with the old mine.

than, mine got nerfed and terran buffs to compensate: better tanks, better upgrade system, stronger hellbat pushes.
now, they revert the mine nerf and buff the thor on top off it.
Terran being a little to strong seems very likely, considering that a balanced match up (old mine TvZ) got changed with nothing but terran buffs.

meanwhile, Zerg got better hydras


Its a little early for posts like this, wait 6 months and see how it goes. Personally speaking its Protoss thats giving the 2 other races the worst troubles and i dont think this patch will alter that, although Fantasy did show some promise with heavy widow mine usages in Pro-league a few days ago


Is Protoss giving zerg trouble atm?
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 29 2014 20:14 GMT
#670
On July 30 2014 05:07 Paljas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2014 05:02 Darkhorse wrote:
On July 30 2014 05:00 Paljas wrote:
On July 30 2014 04:53 Darkhorse wrote:
On July 30 2014 04:52 Paljas wrote:
the mine buff and the thor buff looks very strong
kinda worried about TvZ but i'll wait a bit

Eh tbh 2 of Bunny's 3 wins didn't involve either unit really. Sacsri seemed able to deal with it in the first two games.

Sucks that we won't see both of these players in Premier but congrats Bunny!

mines and thors heavily played a role in game 3 and game 5

and sacsris faild roaches are proably due to hellbat pushes, something which didnt exist pre mine nerf

Game 3 Sacsri was so far behind from the 2 rax that it didn't really matter

Also Sacsri reacted to the potential hellbats with roaches but I don't see how the new patch affected that.

pretty sure that sacsri would have won both games pre patch. (dont saying that that would have been good)

also, many people regarded the TvZ as pretty balanced with the old mine.

than, mine got nerfed and terran buffs to compensate: better tanks, better upgrade system, stronger hellbat pushes.
now, they revert the mine nerf and buff the thor on top off it.
Terran being a little to strong seems very likely, considering that a balanced match up (old mine TvZ) got changed with nothing but terran buffs.

meanwhile, Zerg got better hydras

eh since the patch went live Aligulac has TvZ as being 117-107 in Terran's favor. Doesn't seem like anything too drastic so far in tournaments
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Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
July 29 2014 20:15 GMT
#671
Wow so close. gg
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-29 20:15:53
July 29 2014 20:15 GMT
#672
On July 30 2014 05:12 Mozdk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2014 05:11 Topdoller wrote:
On July 30 2014 05:07 Paljas wrote:
On July 30 2014 05:02 Darkhorse wrote:
On July 30 2014 05:00 Paljas wrote:
On July 30 2014 04:53 Darkhorse wrote:
On July 30 2014 04:52 Paljas wrote:
the mine buff and the thor buff looks very strong
kinda worried about TvZ but i'll wait a bit

Eh tbh 2 of Bunny's 3 wins didn't involve either unit really. Sacsri seemed able to deal with it in the first two games.

Sucks that we won't see both of these players in Premier but congrats Bunny!

mines and thors heavily played a role in game 3 and game 5

and sacsris faild roaches are proably due to hellbat pushes, something which didnt exist pre mine nerf

Game 3 Sacsri was so far behind from the 2 rax that it didn't really matter

Also Sacsri reacted to the potential hellbats with roaches but I don't see how the new patch affected that.

pretty sure that sacsri would have won both games pre patch. (dont saying that that would have been good)

also, many people regarded the TvZ as pretty balanced with the old mine.

than, mine got nerfed and terran buffs to compensate: better tanks, better upgrade system, stronger hellbat pushes.
now, they revert the mine nerf and buff the thor on top off it.
Terran being a little to strong seems very likely, considering that a balanced match up (old mine TvZ) got changed with nothing but terran buffs.

meanwhile, Zerg got better hydras


Its a little early for posts like this, wait 6 months and see how it goes. Personally speaking its Protoss thats giving the 2 other races the worst troubles and i dont think this patch will alter that, although Fantasy did show some promise with heavy widow mine usages in Pro-league a few days ago


Is Protoss giving zerg trouble atm?

dont have the winrates right now, but at least torunement wise, protoss seem to be getting the better end of the stick

soo 0-3 vs toss in gsl final, lol
TL+ Member
Popkiller
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3415 Posts
July 29 2014 20:16 GMT
#673
did MMA not know about the 4th the whole time? haha
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
July 29 2014 20:16 GMT
#674
Poll: Recommend StarNaN vs MMA Game 1?

★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
 
0%

★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
 
0%

★★★- Good game (8)
 
100%

★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
 
0%

★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

8 total votes

Your vote: Recommend StarNaN vs MMA Game 1?

(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season

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HonorZ
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France858 Posts
July 29 2014 20:17 GMT
#675
MMA playing standard and not so bad versus protoss ! 1 - 0 ! yay!
"If you don't drop sweat today you'll drop tears tomorrow"
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
July 29 2014 20:17 GMT
#676
On July 30 2014 05:12 Mozdk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2014 05:11 Topdoller wrote:
On July 30 2014 05:07 Paljas wrote:
On July 30 2014 05:02 Darkhorse wrote:
On July 30 2014 05:00 Paljas wrote:
On July 30 2014 04:53 Darkhorse wrote:
On July 30 2014 04:52 Paljas wrote:
the mine buff and the thor buff looks very strong
kinda worried about TvZ but i'll wait a bit

Eh tbh 2 of Bunny's 3 wins didn't involve either unit really. Sacsri seemed able to deal with it in the first two games.

Sucks that we won't see both of these players in Premier but congrats Bunny!

mines and thors heavily played a role in game 3 and game 5

and sacsris faild roaches are proably due to hellbat pushes, something which didnt exist pre mine nerf

Game 3 Sacsri was so far behind from the 2 rax that it didn't really matter

Also Sacsri reacted to the potential hellbats with roaches but I don't see how the new patch affected that.

pretty sure that sacsri would have won both games pre patch. (dont saying that that would have been good)

also, many people regarded the TvZ as pretty balanced with the old mine.

than, mine got nerfed and terran buffs to compensate: better tanks, better upgrade system, stronger hellbat pushes.
now, they revert the mine nerf and buff the thor on top off it.
Terran being a little to strong seems very likely, considering that a balanced match up (old mine TvZ) got changed with nothing but terran buffs.

meanwhile, Zerg got better hydras


Its a little early for posts like this, wait 6 months and see how it goes. Personally speaking its Protoss thats giving the 2 other races the worst troubles and i dont think this patch will alter that, although Fantasy did show some promise with heavy widow mine usages in Pro-league a few days ago


Is Protoss giving zerg trouble atm?


I'm not, certainly.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
July 29 2014 20:17 GMT
#677
On July 30 2014 05:12 Mozdk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2014 05:11 Topdoller wrote:
On July 30 2014 05:07 Paljas wrote:
On July 30 2014 05:02 Darkhorse wrote:
On July 30 2014 05:00 Paljas wrote:
On July 30 2014 04:53 Darkhorse wrote:
On July 30 2014 04:52 Paljas wrote:
the mine buff and the thor buff looks very strong
kinda worried about TvZ but i'll wait a bit

Eh tbh 2 of Bunny's 3 wins didn't involve either unit really. Sacsri seemed able to deal with it in the first two games.

Sucks that we won't see both of these players in Premier but congrats Bunny!

mines and thors heavily played a role in game 3 and game 5

and sacsris faild roaches are proably due to hellbat pushes, something which didnt exist pre mine nerf

Game 3 Sacsri was so far behind from the 2 rax that it didn't really matter

Also Sacsri reacted to the potential hellbats with roaches but I don't see how the new patch affected that.

pretty sure that sacsri would have won both games pre patch. (dont saying that that would have been good)

also, many people regarded the TvZ as pretty balanced with the old mine.

than, mine got nerfed and terran buffs to compensate: better tanks, better upgrade system, stronger hellbat pushes.
now, they revert the mine nerf and buff the thor on top off it.
Terran being a little to strong seems very likely, considering that a balanced match up (old mine TvZ) got changed with nothing but terran buffs.

meanwhile, Zerg got better hydras


Its a little early for posts like this, wait 6 months and see how it goes. Personally speaking its Protoss thats giving the 2 other races the worst troubles and i dont think this patch will alter that, although Fantasy did show some promise with heavy widow mine usages in Pro-league a few days ago


Is Protoss giving zerg trouble atm?

Code A: Zerg 21% winrate in ZvP.
(Wiki)2014 Global StarCraft II League Season 3/Code A Statistics
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
July 29 2014 20:18 GMT
#678
On July 30 2014 05:17 Solar424 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2014 05:12 Mozdk wrote:
On July 30 2014 05:11 Topdoller wrote:
On July 30 2014 05:07 Paljas wrote:
On July 30 2014 05:02 Darkhorse wrote:
On July 30 2014 05:00 Paljas wrote:
On July 30 2014 04:53 Darkhorse wrote:
On July 30 2014 04:52 Paljas wrote:
the mine buff and the thor buff looks very strong
kinda worried about TvZ but i'll wait a bit

Eh tbh 2 of Bunny's 3 wins didn't involve either unit really. Sacsri seemed able to deal with it in the first two games.

Sucks that we won't see both of these players in Premier but congrats Bunny!

mines and thors heavily played a role in game 3 and game 5

and sacsris faild roaches are proably due to hellbat pushes, something which didnt exist pre mine nerf

Game 3 Sacsri was so far behind from the 2 rax that it didn't really matter

Also Sacsri reacted to the potential hellbats with roaches but I don't see how the new patch affected that.

pretty sure that sacsri would have won both games pre patch. (dont saying that that would have been good)

also, many people regarded the TvZ as pretty balanced with the old mine.

than, mine got nerfed and terran buffs to compensate: better tanks, better upgrade system, stronger hellbat pushes.
now, they revert the mine nerf and buff the thor on top off it.
Terran being a little to strong seems very likely, considering that a balanced match up (old mine TvZ) got changed with nothing but terran buffs.

meanwhile, Zerg got better hydras


Its a little early for posts like this, wait 6 months and see how it goes. Personally speaking its Protoss thats giving the 2 other races the worst troubles and i dont think this patch will alter that, although Fantasy did show some promise with heavy widow mine usages in Pro-league a few days ago


Is Protoss giving zerg trouble atm?

Code A: Zerg 21% winrate in ZvP.
(Wiki)2014 Global StarCraft II League Season 3/Code A Statistics


More good players play protoss... that's all :p
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Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
July 29 2014 20:18 GMT
#679
oh come on stop with this silly statistics picking
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9014 Posts
July 29 2014 20:18 GMT
#680
Bunny wow gj.
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