(Vote): Zest and Illusion (Vote): Zest and San (Vote): Zest and Jjakji (Vote): Illusion and San (Vote): Illusion and Jjakji (Vote): San and Jjakji
Poll: Group A - Heart
Zest and Jjakji (9)
33%
Zest and San (8)
30%
Illusion and Jjakji (5)
19%
Zest and Illusion (3)
11%
San and Jjakji (2)
7%
Illusion and San (0)
0%
27 total votes
Your vote: Group A - Heart
(Vote): Zest and Illusion (Vote): Zest and San (Vote): Zest and Jjakji (Vote): Illusion and San (Vote): Illusion and Jjakji (Vote): San and Jjakji
Poll: Group B - Head
Innovation and TRUE (13)
48%
Innovation and Snute (9)
33%
Stork and TRUE (3)
11%
Innovation and Stork (2)
7%
Snute and Stork (0)
0%
Snute and TRUE (0)
0%
27 total votes
Your vote: Group B - Head
(Vote): Innovation and Snute (Vote): Innovation and Stork (Vote): Innovation and TRUE (Vote): Snute and Stork (Vote): Snute and TRUE (Vote): Stork and TRUE
Poll: Group B - Heart
Innovation and Snute (11)
42%
Innovation and TRUE (6)
23%
Innovation and Stork (3)
12%
Snute and Stork (3)
12%
Stork and TRUE (3)
12%
Snute and TRUE (0)
0%
26 total votes
Your vote: Group B - Heart
(Vote): Innovation and Snute (Vote): Innovation and Stork (Vote): Innovation and TRUE (Vote): Snute and Stork (Vote): Snute and TRUE (Vote): Stork and TRUE
Poll: Greater Force?
North American Passion (11)
61%
Belgian Exhaustion (7)
39%
18 total votes
Your vote: Greater Force?
(Vote): North American Passion (Vote): Belgian Exhaustion
Circumstance, apprentice of Lorning, prepares his LR thread, gathering the black sorcery of the LR gods. BTW, thanks for the thread.
Also, I am super stoked for these groups. Normally I'd make a snide remark about Protoss, but Zest is just so fucking good at this game I'm going to watch him dismantle everything in his path before also praying at the shrine of Innovation, god of macro. Seriously, Zest, I want to see some absolutely fucking bananas Protoss play with 350 APM of Warp Prism harassment and Phoenix micro.
IEM Shenzhen Open Brackets - Life is at ~ 82.11 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 55.05 % of the time Life wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 90.78 %. ~ 44.95 % of the time Life loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 71.49 %. ------------------------------------------------- - Daisy is at ~ 0.01 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 44.95 % of the time Daisy wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 0.01 %. ~ 55.05 % of the time Daisy loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 0.01 %.
IEM Shenzhen - jjakji is at ~ 94.94 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 61.31 % of the time jjakji wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 97.47 %. ~ 38.69 % of the time jjakji loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 90.92 %. ------------------------------------------------- - San is at ~ 100 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 60.73 % of the time San wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 100 %. ~ 39.27 % of the time San loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 100 %. ------------------------------------------------- - Zest is at ~ 99.62 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 56.86 % of the time Zest wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 99.93 %. ~ 43.14 % of the time Zest loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 99.21 %. ------------------------------------------------- - Illusion is at ~ 0.02 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 21.1 % of the time Illusion wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 0.04 %. ~ 78.9 % of the time Illusion loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 0.02 %.
IEM Shenzhen - INnoVation is at ~ 11.6 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 66.54 % of the time INnoVation wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 12.71 %. ~ 33.46 % of the time INnoVation loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 9.39 %. ------------------------------------------------- - Snute is at ~ 22.03 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 55.32 % of the time Snute wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 26.71 %. ~ 44.68 % of the time Snute loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 16.24 %. ------------------------------------------------- - TRUE is at ~ 4.3 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 40.25 % of the time TRUE wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 5.73 %. ~ 59.75 % of the time TRUE loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 3.34 %. ------------------------------------------------- - Stork is at ~ 0.29 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 37.89 % of the time Stork wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 0.53 %. ~ 62.11 % of the time Stork loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 0.15 %.
IEM Shenzhen - Jaedong is at ~ 73.22 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 60.46 % of the time Jaedong wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 83.07 %. ~ 39.54 % of the time Jaedong loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 58.17 %. ------------------------------------------------- - Solar is at ~ 5.33 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 59.22 % of the time Solar wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 5.94 %. ~ 40.78 % of the time Solar loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 4.45 %. ------------------------------------------------- - HerO is at ~ 10.86 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 45.51 % of the time HerO wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 14.9 %. ~ 54.49 % of the time HerO loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 7.49 %. ------------------------------------------------- - puCK is at ~ 0.45 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 34.81 % of the time puCK wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 0.53 %. ~ 65.19 % of the time puCK loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 0.4 %.
IEM Shenzhen - TaeJa is at ~ 99.99 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 62.56 % of the time TaeJa wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 99.99 %. ~ 37.44 % of the time TaeJa loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 99.99 %. ------------------------------------------------- - MMA is at ~ 22.12 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 51.34 % of the time MMA wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 28.1 %. ~ 48.66 % of the time MMA loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 15.8 %. ------------------------------------------------- - Jim is at ~ 0.31 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 41.1 % of the time Jim wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 0.5 %. ~ 58.9 % of the time Jim loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 0.19 %.
On July 17 2014 10:09 Kimb3r wrote: Delay due to power issues they say...
And yeah I know about yesterday. Disgraceful! Let's watch WCS AM.. -.-
Not exactly like ESL is responsible for maintaining the electricity.
That's true - on the other hand, wasn't Shanghai last year also troubled with delays? Can anyone who has spent a lot of time in China or participated in hosting events there confirm whether this is a one-off or something about the way things 'are done' or set up?
On July 17 2014 10:09 Kimb3r wrote: Delay due to power issues they say...
And yeah I know about yesterday. Disgraceful! Let's watch WCS AM.. -.-
Not exactly like ESL is responsible for maintaining the electricity.
That's true - on the other hand, wasn't Shanghai last year also troubled with delays? Can anyone who has spent a lot of time in China or participated in hosting events there confirm whether this is a one-off or something about the way things 'are done' or set up?
Well Carmac commented yesterday, and it seems to be recurrent problem for every events in China
On July 17 2014 10:19 Kimb3r wrote: Why are they organizing events in China then? Then that is the first big mistake they make.
Because they want to bring events where there usually aren't a lot. Like Sao Paolo etc.
I know that.. but they should specifically prepare themselves and take all possibilities into account before preparing such an event and take precautions. If they want to bring eSports to those countries, they have to be able to manage it properly.
Aber kack drauf.. I hope it starts soon. Let's gooo!
did they test out the power..you know beforehand? like start turning on stuff and testing everything 5 hours before the scheduled start time or something...
On July 17 2014 10:28 mikumegurine wrote: did they test out the power..you know beforehand? like start turning on stuff and testing everything 5 hours before the scheduled start time or something...
I assume the power worked yesterday but the internet didn't. And now the internet works, but the power doesn't?
On July 17 2014 10:28 mikumegurine wrote: did they test out the power..you know beforehand? like start turning on stuff and testing everything 5 hours before the scheduled start time or something...
always count on LR thread to give tips on how to organize an event. especially to IEM...
On July 17 2014 10:28 mikumegurine wrote: did they test out the power..you know beforehand? like start turning on stuff and testing everything 5 hours before the scheduled start time or something...
always count on LR thread to give tips on how to organize an event. especially to IEM...
Indeed. If there's any organization I trust to run a proper SC2 event and get it right, it's Carmac and Co.
On July 17 2014 10:28 mikumegurine wrote: did they test out the power..you know beforehand? like start turning on stuff and testing everything 5 hours before the scheduled start time or something...
always count on LR thread to give tips on how to organize an event. especially to IEM...
Well somebody has to tell them what to do obviously.
On July 17 2014 10:28 mikumegurine wrote: did they test out the power..you know beforehand? like start turning on stuff and testing everything 5 hours before the scheduled start time or something...
always count on LR thread to give tips on how to organize an event. especially to IEM...
They do have a lot of experience in fucking it up, that's true.
On July 17 2014 10:28 mikumegurine wrote: did they test out the power..you know beforehand? like start turning on stuff and testing everything 5 hours before the scheduled start time or something...
always count on LR thread to give tips on how to organize an event. especially to IEM...
Well somebody has to tell them what to do obviously.
Love the time predictions on the OP. Aren't power outages somewhat common in tournaments over the last 2 years? I think I recall at least 3, but I can't remember which events.
I sincerely hope the first shot we get is of Apollo and Kaelaris staring straight into the camera wearing identical expression of weariness, bemusement, and simmering rage.
On July 17 2014 11:29 Jazzman88 wrote: I sincerely hope the first shot we get is of Apollo and Kaelaris staring straight into the camera wearing identical expression of weariness, bemusement, and simmering rage.
I sincerely hope the camera turns on to them passionately kissing, but I suppose we're men of different tastes
On July 17 2014 11:29 Jazzman88 wrote: I sincerely hope the first shot we get is of Apollo and Kaelaris staring straight into the camera wearing identical expression of weariness, bemusement, and simmering rage.
I sincerely hope the camera turns on to them passionately kissing, but I suppose we're men of different tastes
You know what, I'm from Canada. We're okay with that here. Let's ask for both?
On July 17 2014 11:29 Jazzman88 wrote: I sincerely hope the first shot we get is of Apollo and Kaelaris staring straight into the camera wearing identical expression of weariness, bemusement, and simmering rage.
I sincerely hope the camera turns on to them passionately kissing, but I suppose we're men of different tastes
You know what, I'm from Canada. We're okay with that here. Let's ask for both?
Okay. So the camera turns on, and they're staring with weary bemusement. Then they slowly turn to one another. Apollo's hand weaves its way into Kaelaris's hair. Their eyes meet. Tongues lock. The kiss is so intense it makes Tasteless passionate again. We're entirely drawn in. The stream breaks all time highest viewer records. Then they turn back to the camera and sigh and get on with the games.
On July 17 2014 11:29 Jazzman88 wrote: I sincerely hope the first shot we get is of Apollo and Kaelaris staring straight into the camera wearing identical expression of weariness, bemusement, and simmering rage.
I sincerely hope the camera turns on to them passionately kissing, but I suppose we're men of different tastes
You know what, I'm from Canada. We're okay with that here. Let's ask for both?
Okay. So the camera turns on, and they're staring with weary bemusement. Then they slowly turn to one another. Apollo's hand weaves its way into Kaelaris's hair. Their eyes meet. Tongues lock. The kiss is so intense it makes Tasteless passionate again. We're entirely drawn in. The stream breaks all time highest viewer records. Then they turn back to the camera and sigh and get on with the games.
On July 17 2014 11:29 Jazzman88 wrote: I sincerely hope the first shot we get is of Apollo and Kaelaris staring straight into the camera wearing identical expression of weariness, bemusement, and simmering rage.
I sincerely hope the camera turns on to them passionately kissing, but I suppose we're men of different tastes
You know what, I'm from Canada. We're okay with that here. Let's ask for both?
Okay. So the camera turns on, and they're staring with weary bemusement. Then they slowly turn to one another. Apollo's hand weaves its way into Kaelaris's hair. Their eyes meet. Tongues lock. The kiss is so intense it makes Tasteless passionate again. We're entirely drawn in. The stream breaks all time highest viewer records. Then they turn back to the camera and sigh and get on with the games.
Kaelaris gently puts his hand on Apollo's cheek. Their eyes meet, a slow smile brightens up Apollo's face. "Cheeky", he says as he leans in to meet Kaelaris' hungry lips with his own.
On July 17 2014 11:29 Jazzman88 wrote: I sincerely hope the first shot we get is of Apollo and Kaelaris staring straight into the camera wearing identical expression of weariness, bemusement, and simmering rage.
I sincerely hope the camera turns on to them passionately kissing, but I suppose we're men of different tastes
You know what, I'm from Canada. We're okay with that here. Let's ask for both?
Okay. So the camera turns on, and they're staring with weary bemusement. Then they slowly turn to one another. Apollo's hand weaves its way into Kaelaris's hair. Their eyes meet. Tongues lock. The kiss is so intense it makes Tasteless passionate again. We're entirely drawn in. The stream breaks all time highest viewer records. Then they turn back to the camera and sigh and get on with the games.
Kaelaris gently puts his hand on Apollo's cheek. Their eyes meet, a slow smile brightens up Apollo's face. "Cheeky", he says as he leans in to meet Kaelaris' hungry lips with his own.
On July 17 2014 12:00 Jazzman88 wrote: I would give so much to just be a fly on the wall watching what is doubtless an aggravating clusterfuck.
Random IEM Employee: Sir Carmac! We've done it we got the power online and the players are ready to go! Carmac: Finally, this clusterfuck is over, tweet it out to the world we're about to start!
3 minutes later
Random IEM Employee: Sir Carmac! We were about to start but the entire audio system has been sabotaged and the power is offline again. Carmac: SPIDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I just want my jjakji and then to go to bed.... i really should have taken tomorrow off work so i could be a true fan and stay up to watch jjakji win...
At this point, I am vehemently hoping that the problems are streaming related and not SC2/internet related, so that they can at least get the players going, as it does no good for the players to sit on their asses doing nothing for 4 hours when they were expecting to play.
On July 17 2014 12:03 Jazzman88 wrote: At this point, I am vehemently hoping that the problems are streaming related and not SC2/internet related, so that they can at least get the players going, as it does no good for the players to sit on their asses doing nothing for 4 hours when they were expecting to play.
It's been well-established that the problems have been the power at the venue. A circuit broke yesterday, in fact.
On July 17 2014 12:00 Jazzman88 wrote: I would give so much to just be a fly on the wall watching what is doubtless an aggravating clusterfuck.
It's probably just a chain of ESL workers complaining to Carmac and Redeye, and the 2 of them complaining to the convention's coordinators.
I like to think ESL have set up a thunderdome where Carmac and crew fight Spider and NASL Sound Guy to a fight to the death.
In this corner, the Shaper of Dreams! Titan of Esports Business! The legendary Carmac!
And in the other corner, the shadowy visage of audiological death himself! The Silencer! The Undisputed Sensei of White Noise! NASL SOUND GUY!
As the fight begins, the power goes out, and when it's restored, we see only Sundance standing over their bruised corpses, his laptop dented in one corner, and a single splash of blood across the MLG logo on his chest.
On July 17 2014 12:14 partydude89 wrote: is it really that big of a deal if the stream is up or not? either way, the games aren't starting.
I imagine the idea is something like "if the stream goes down, that's another thing they have to fix before the show can start, which gives everything else yet more opportunities to stop working. Again."
On July 17 2014 12:34 SNSeigifried wrote: illusion actually can cause upsets vs san illusion 3-0 jyp and 2-1ed trap recently!!!
I respect the theory there, but in actuality I suspect he's going to get destroyed by San and then Jjakji (after Jjakji unfortunately loses to Zest, god of Protoss T_T)
On July 17 2014 12:53 Lorning wrote: HOW ARE THE GAMES GUYS??!
Zest taking very heavy damage, loses first Colo and most of his army and lots of Probes at nat. Zest was being pretty greedy, small army and double Forge and Twilight researching Blink. Jjakji seems to have punished him for it.
edit: then loses 2 Medivacs half full of units for nothing. Such is Terran life.
On July 17 2014 12:59 Mozdk wrote: There's something odd about 150 supply. I see pro Protoss player get supply blocked there. I get supply blocked there. Illuminati?
It's the 3rd base finished > constant collosus production mark, when you see that you have loads of supply, build a collosus, use a warp in round and boom, supply blocked.
On July 17 2014 12:59 Mozdk wrote: There's something odd about 150 supply. I see pro Protoss player get supply blocked there. I get supply blocked there. Illuminati?
It's the 3rd base finished > constant collosus production mark, when you see that you have loads of supply, build a collosus, use a warp in round and boom, supply blocked.
On July 17 2014 13:09 Jazzman88 wrote: Yikes, trying to attack that Gateway unit ball and going greedy after the MSC was a big mistake. Jjakji is in the shit now.
Edit: Holy shit, that filthy sneak-in with the Medivacs.
Well with a late robo this is possible. Even though Zest placed a pylon and a probe over there. Map is very droppable in general.
Man it's nice to watch a super high level game after WCS AM qualifiers. Not that they weren't entertaining, for the most part (avilo) but this is just a joy to stay up for.
Jjakji played far too passive after getting a great upgrade lead. You cannot play that way versus a Korean Protoss like Zest - he will crush you with his python grip every time.
On July 17 2014 13:24 Foreverkul wrote: I just can't even stand watching these games anymore. Its like watching a tank run over a bicyclist. Utterly disgusting.
On July 17 2014 13:24 Foreverkul wrote: I just can't even stand watching these games anymore. Its like watching a tank run over a bicyclist. Utterly disgusting.
Maru vs Protoss.
Considering IEM is in China, that's a bit on the nose, isn't it?
On July 17 2014 13:24 Foreverkul wrote: I just can't even stand watching these games anymore. Its like watching a tank run over a bicyclist. Utterly disgusting.
Maru vs Protoss.
Considering IEM is in China, that's a bit on the nose, isn't it?
I thought he was purposely setting me up for that.
On July 17 2014 13:24 Foreverkul wrote: I just can't even stand watching these games anymore. Its like watching a tank run over a bicyclist. Utterly disgusting.
On July 17 2014 13:24 Foreverkul wrote: I just can't even stand watching these games anymore. Its like watching a tank run over a bicyclist. Utterly disgusting.
On July 17 2014 13:37 Popkiller wrote: he could have canceled the third, right? instead of going up that ramp...
He pulled all the SCVs, except one base. So there was no going home, no way to macro out of that. You either kill that army and crush the production to win, or you die.
On July 17 2014 13:37 Popkiller wrote: he could have canceled the third, right? instead of going up that ramp...
With SCV pull you want to kill, even killing the third would result in net loss, even ignoring the tech disadvantage.
Zest wasn't on templar tech yet. But otherwise you are right.
When it is metric fuckton of collosi and enough blink stalkers to deal with small groups of vikings (not to mention upgrades), that is essentially straight tech advantage against what jjakji had even without hts.
On July 17 2014 13:41 swag_bro wrote: I think Zest has this tournament in the bad. Nobody seems like they can stop him.
Especially since he's had time to prepare a counter to TRUE's Ling/Corruptor style. No one plays a better long-term game with big strategic goals than Zest.
Zest isn't 100% mathematically guaranteed until he wins this tournament (or at least places highly), but it's basically like "If he doesn't fail absolutely everything, he's in"
On July 17 2014 13:43 mikumegurine wrote: lol Susie putting him on the spot, Kespa vs "western" koreans
What did he say? Watching GSL.
not much he kinda changed the topic sorta by just saying that Kespa have strict practice schedules to adhere to whereas western koreans have freedom to set up their own practice regimes
On July 17 2014 13:49 NarutO wrote: They are playing winners and losers match at the same time according to Liquipedia now. At least for group A , right?
they should have, but stream just said there was an issue and they will stream illusion vs san
On July 17 2014 13:41 swag_bro wrote: I think Zest has this tournament in the bad. Nobody seems like they can stop him.
Zest is not that good in my opinion*. His history is not impressive, he didn't show up on the radar until this year because of... reasons.
*This means its an opinion, just in case you weren't sure it was an opinion
Destroying SKT in PL, GSL champ and GSL quarter finalist is a short history but it is a history. But of course you are entitled to that opinion.
Certainly impressive feats on their own and everyone can have their big moment, but hes been around for at least 3 years and as far as I know not much to show for it. In contrast, Jjakji has a long history of being a top level player in major tournaments throughout the world
At the very least, Illusion did get his best matchup. He loves his TvP. But if he loses to San, he gets his worst matchup, as his series against Masa in the qualifiers shows quite clearly.
On July 17 2014 13:49 NarutO wrote: They are playing winners and losers match at the same time according to Liquipedia now. At least for group A , right?
they should have, but stream just said there was an issue and they will stream illusion vs san
On July 17 2014 13:49 NarutO wrote: They are playing winners and losers match at the same time according to Liquipedia now. At least for group A , right?
they should have, but stream just said there was an issue and they will stream illusion vs san
On July 17 2014 13:49 NarutO wrote: They are playing winners and losers match at the same time according to Liquipedia now. At least for group A , right?
they should have, but stream just said there was an issue and they will stream illusion vs san
trololol. Initial plan.
Match A+B same time. Winners Losers Decider
3 hours delay.
A B Winners Losers Decider
?? D:
They just want you to collapse form exhaustion.
He survived ASUS ROG at northcon I believe Naruto will be fine
SCV pulls were strong when Protoss didn't expect it. But now its such a common timing in TvP, Protoss know its going to happen and its totally useless. Now what does Terran do?
On July 17 2014 14:02 Genome852 wrote: Worst doom drop of 2014.
Incidentally the worst doom drop of 2013 was I believe symbol vs SuNo(?) on Belshir vestige where he loaded up all his overlords with roaches and dropped them near but not on siege tanks. There were also buildings between where he put the roaches and the siege tanks
On July 17 2014 14:02 Genome852 wrote: Worst doom drop of 2014.
Incidentally the worst doom drop of 2013 was I believe symbol vs SuNo(?) on Belshir vestige where he loaded up all his overlords with roaches and dropped them near but not on siege tanks. There were also buildings between where he put the roaches and the siege tanks
On July 17 2014 14:02 Genome852 wrote: Worst doom drop of 2014.
Incidentally the worst doom drop of 2013 was I believe symbol vs SuNo(?) on Belshir vestige where he loaded up all his overlords with roaches and dropped them near but not on siege tanks. There were also buildings between where he put the roaches and the siege tanks
I thought it was Soulkey vs Inno when he let his 5 medivacs of units die to10 mutas.
On July 17 2014 14:02 Genome852 wrote: Worst doom drop of 2014.
Incidentally the worst doom drop of 2013 was I believe symbol vs SuNo(?) on Belshir vestige where he loaded up all his overlords with roaches and dropped them near but not on siege tanks. There were also buildings between where he put the roaches and the siege tanks
You're just saying that to pick on Symbol.
I love Symbol! TSL4LIFE!
But that roach drop was something else let me tell you
On July 17 2014 14:02 Genome852 wrote: Worst doom drop of 2014.
Incidentally the worst doom drop of 2013 was I believe symbol vs SuNo(?) on Belshir vestige where he loaded up all his overlords with roaches and dropped them near but not on siege tanks. There were also buildings between where he put the roaches and the siege tanks
I thought it was Soulkey vs Inno when he let his 5 medivacs of units die to10 mutas.
On July 17 2014 14:02 Genome852 wrote: Worst doom drop of 2014.
Incidentally the worst doom drop of 2013 was I believe symbol vs SuNo(?) on Belshir vestige where he loaded up all his overlords with roaches and dropped them near but not on siege tanks. There were also buildings between where he put the roaches and the siege tanks
Oh my god I remember that! xD That was so embarassing.
On July 17 2014 14:02 Genome852 wrote: Worst doom drop of 2014.
Incidentally the worst doom drop of 2013 was I believe symbol vs SuNo(?) on Belshir vestige where he loaded up all his overlords with roaches and dropped them near but not on siege tanks. There were also buildings between where he put the roaches and the siege tanks
Oh my god I remember that! xD That was so embarassing.
Like a true paragon of TSL, he was determined to get roaches in his opponents main by whatever means necessary
On July 17 2014 14:02 Genome852 wrote: Worst doom drop of 2014.
Incidentally the worst doom drop of 2013 was I believe symbol vs SuNo(?) on Belshir vestige where he loaded up all his overlords with roaches and dropped them near but not on siege tanks. There were also buildings between where he put the roaches and the siege tanks
Oh my god I remember that! xD That was so embarassing.
Like a true paragon of TSL, he was determined to get roaches in his opponents main by whatever means necessary
That was painful. It did NOT seem like Illusion's regular TvP at all. Might have just been because of how damn good San is, might be a nerve issue, I dunno. And now, of course, Jjakji will quite simply annihilate Illusion, whose TvT is quite subpar.
There is little entertainment value in these games because you are just seeing the same thing that always happen on ladder and in previous tournament games.
So is San's name with the long "A" sound or the short "A"? I hear Tastosis say San with the short "A" but Suzy and the casters pronounce it with the long "A" sound. Any clarification on which is right? Or is it preference?
On July 17 2014 14:22 swag_bro wrote: So is San's name with the long "A" sound or the short "A"? I hear Tastosis say San with the short "A" but Suzy and the casters pronounce it with the long "A" sound. Any clarification on which is right? Or is it preference?
On July 17 2014 14:24 GumBa wrote: INNOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! 4-0 please!! I am sadly at work so cheer hard for him for me guys!
I will try to cheer very hard for Inno and give good support, so please cheer for me.
Wait a minute didnt you lose a year long sigbet against me!
It wasn't year long, it was for a few (undisclosed number) of months. I would have never subjected you to a signature that would remind you of Innovation losing for an entire year. That's just cruel.
I changed it literally yesterday, the day Shellshock said you came back from the dead. It was meant to be.
On July 17 2014 14:24 GumBa wrote: INNOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! 4-0 please!! I am sadly at work so cheer hard for him for me guys!
I will try to cheer very hard for Inno and give good support, so please cheer for me.
Wait a minute didnt you lose a year long sigbet against me!
It wasn't year long, it was for a few (undisclosed number) of months. I would have never subjected you to a signature that would remind you of Innovation losing for an entire year. That's just cruel.
I changed it literally yesterday, the day Shellshock said you came back from the dead. It was meant to be.
On July 17 2014 14:39 GumBa wrote: DarkLordLichter would lose cause dolliw would try and play all fancy like HerO and die and lichter would just bane bust some rocks
On July 17 2014 14:50 Darkhorse wrote: Coach Ryu told TRUE he could only be good at two matchups and TRUE looked at the Code S lineup and answered, "ZvP and ZvZ please"
On July 17 2014 14:50 Darkhorse wrote: Coach Ryu told TRUE he could only be good at two matchups and TRUE looked at the Code S lineup and answered, "ZvP and ZvZ please"
On July 17 2014 14:50 Darkhorse wrote: Coach Ryu told TRUE he could only be good at two matchups and TRUE looked at the Code S lineup and answered, "ZvP and ZvZ please"
And Innovation looked down and whispered, "No."
I think you're using the reference wrong.
Innovation is the scourge of ZParCraft? Pretty legit to me!
Looks like Zest showing San who is boss in PvP. Calling Zest to 4-0 whoever he meets in the final, provided someone else knocks out Taeja, who is arguably the best Terran in the tournament and playing against Zest's worst match up.
On July 17 2014 14:59 swag_bro wrote: Looks like Zest showing San who is boss in PvP. Calling Zest to 4-0 whoever he meets in the final, provided someone else knocks out Taeja, who is arguably the best Terran in the tournament and playing against Zest's worst match up.
Seems like ESL just wasn't given the number of stages it needed by the convention. I know that last night, they were casting the Hearthstone from Susie's couch.
These interviews have been pretty great. Looking forward to seeing this tournament shape up in the next couple days, seems like there's just not many people so far. Still, despite all of the issues, it's been pretty enjoyable.
On July 17 2014 15:12 Lorning wrote: Hearthstone is already doing quarterfinals today (and finals tomorrow). Starcraft is just group stages at this point + it's till sunday
Ahh okay, didn't know that. Thanks for the clarification! :D
On July 17 2014 15:13 Circumstance wrote: Seems like ESL just wasn't given the number of stages it needed by the convention. I know that last night, they were casting the Hearthstone from Susie's couch.
they have a huuuuuuuuuuuuge delay, that's all, and hearthstone is the playoffs, so they have priority on stage over sc2 group stage
On July 17 2014 15:10 vult wrote: Though I respect Hearthstone and the pro scene, I cannot see it as a large live spectators sport.... just my two cents.
Sucks that it is kicking SC2 off of main stage.
I think a few of tournaments are getting 50+ k in viewers just from China alone with Hearthstone. It's massive in Asia.
On July 17 2014 15:13 Circumstance wrote: Seems like ESL just wasn't given the number of stages it needed by the convention. I know that last night, they were casting the Hearthstone from Susie's couch.
they have a huuuuuuuuuuuuge delay, that's all, and hearthstone is the playoffs, so they have priority on stage over sc2 group stage
Oh, I understand why they would shift it over at this point, I'm not disputing that. I just think that one of the venue issues might be why they need to shift around. I don't understand what the delay has to do with it.
On July 17 2014 15:13 Circumstance wrote: Seems like ESL just wasn't given the number of stages it needed by the convention. I know that last night, they were casting the Hearthstone from Susie's couch.
they have a huuuuuuuuuuuuge delay, that's all, and hearthstone is the playoffs, so they have priority on stage over sc2 group stage
Oh, I understand why they would shift it over at this point, I'm not disputing that. I just think that one of the venue issues might be why they need to shift around. I don't understand what the delay has to do with it.
you don't? group A should have been finished by now!
I have a weird question. Is bronze league a single MMR? Or can you be low bronze in MMR. All I want to know is, if I lose 1k games after I get to bronze (no wins), will it take me longer to get to silver or not?
On July 17 2014 15:13 Circumstance wrote: Seems like ESL just wasn't given the number of stages it needed by the convention. I know that last night, they were casting the Hearthstone from Susie's couch.
they have a huuuuuuuuuuuuge delay, that's all, and hearthstone is the playoffs, so they have priority on stage over sc2 group stage
Oh, I understand why they would shift it over at this point, I'm not disputing that. I just think that one of the venue issues might be why they need to shift around. I don't understand what the delay has to do with it.
you don't? group A should have been finished by now!
Oh, I get you now. You think they had it planned out with the existing stage setup, and the delay forced them to do more with less. Probably more reasonable than what I was thinking.
What do they feed these guys in Switzerland? Koreans can't win in Korea, they go to that house, they face Koreans who actually did stay in Korea, and they go toe-to-toe with them, often winning.
On July 17 2014 15:47 Circumstance wrote: What do they feed these guys in Switzerland? Koreans can't win in Korea, they go to that house, they face Koreans who actually did stay in Korea, and they go toe-to-toe with them, often winning.
Jjakji did fine when he was in Korea too. He was one of the last 4 surviving Terrans in Code S before the switch.
Watching snute play swarmhost, it feels like he is playing with them for the first time. His positioning throughout the game has been awful. He lost so many swarmhosts and vipers needlessly.
On July 17 2014 16:03 ptbl wrote: Watching snute play swarmhost, it feels like he is playing with them for the first time. His positioning throughout the game has been awful. He lost so many swarmhosts and vipers needlessly.
He is pretty vocal about not liking them, but SHs are good on Overgrowth.
San just succeeded in getting the most sponsorship exposure any player has done in a high-profile tournament that I've ever seen. Value Hair got their money's worth in their YFW sponsorship.
On July 17 2014 16:03 ptbl wrote: Watching snute play swarmhost, it feels like he is playing with them for the first time. His positioning throughout the game has been awful. He lost so many swarmhosts and vipers needlessly.
Snute is so good with SH, it's just that Stork is so good. In fact all the Koreans seem really good vs SH, I guess in the Kespa houses they really made a team effort to figure them out .
On July 17 2014 16:07 GumBa wrote: Breakfast break! How was INno!?
Hard to say which is more true - Inno was godlike or TRUE was scrublike.
Inno rolled him as though he was powered by Fantasy's Code A frustrations.
I take it as godlike INno
I wouldn't want to be in Snute's shoes right about now, let's put it that way. Snute turned to SH to beat Stork, and his reward for that will be going up against Innovation in ZvTerminator mode.
bleh, for a layman, it looks like Snute doing his best to throw this - 7k minerals, not making any spines to protect the mining bases, not taking new ones in the top right/bottom left .... does he want to remax on 300 zerglings later on or why is he saving those minerals and not spending ~3k ?
Good matches on day 2, But man are some of the mods uptight, get banned for asking why I had some issues with some lag spikes Kappa. Some of the mods like Infeza need stop banning people for asking legit tech issues on the stream.
I'm looking forward to day 3, hopefully chat wont be banned for asking tech questions. I loved when Rotti and Nathan streamed, much more helpful mods. To many people in chat perm banned for no reason, come on twitch mods get real like Nathan and Rottie.
On July 17 2014 16:36 Foreverkul wrote: So glad they kept swarm hosts and took away all the Terrans new toys. Clearly a golden age of exciting SC2 games -_-
Explains why you cursed the Terran in Group A to lose to a Toss.
Ehm... Firecake - Mana anyone. Once again it is proven. Once it gets to this stage, or even halfway. It cannot be beaten. Which is why 2 base is so popular in PvZ.
On July 17 2014 16:36 Foreverkul wrote: So glad they kept swarm hosts and took away all the Terrans new toys. Clearly a golden age of exciting SC2 games -_-
Explains why you cursed the Terran in Group A to lose to a Toss.
Leave me alone! Not my fault Jjakji can't resist the SCV pull ;^;
all i'm saying can we have Nathan and Rotti modding day 3 main stage stream? They are good people, mods today were banning people for no reason, asking tech questions. Please Twitch mods, banning people for no reason does not make you more of a man, thanks.
On July 17 2014 16:40 LingBlingBling wrote: all i'm saying can we have Nathan and Rotti modding day 3 main stage stream? They are good people, mods today were banning people for no reason, asking tech questions. Please Twitch mods, banning people for no reason does not make you more of a man, thanks.
The problem is there's no insanely microable unit that synergizes well with the SH. It's the exact same reason Tank + Raven is boring as shit, because there's no Vulture-equivalent that scales like crazy with great mechanical play and great multitasking.
On July 17 2014 16:58 NarutO wrote: Just a question. Dreamhack Valencia starts tomorrow 10AM CEST right? :o And the day will have groupstage 1-3? Saturday playoffs?
On July 17 2014 16:58 NarutO wrote: Just a question. Dreamhack Valencia starts tomorrow 10AM CEST right? :o And the day will have groupstage 1-3? Saturday playoffs?
On July 17 2014 16:58 NarutO wrote: Just a question. Dreamhack Valencia starts tomorrow 10AM CEST right? :o And the day will have groupstage 1-3? Saturday playoffs?
On July 17 2014 16:58 NarutO wrote: Just a question. Dreamhack Valencia starts tomorrow 10AM CEST right? :o And the day will have groupstage 1-3? Saturday playoffs?
On July 17 2014 16:58 NarutO wrote: Just a question. Dreamhack Valencia starts tomorrow 10AM CEST right? :o And the day will have groupstage 1-3? Saturday playoffs?
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