[MLG] Anaheim 2014 Day 3 - Page 37

Whining about Protoss or balance will be more harshly moderated from page 90 onwards.

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Ketch

Netherlands7285 Posts

June 22 2014 18:40 GMT

#721

On June 23 2014 03:40 phil.ipp wrote:
so is drg good in zvz?

Took out Life 2-1 earlier on

On June 23 2014 03:40 DJHelium wrote:
Are there some kind of notifcation sounds coming from the stream?

Yeah, weird

FrostedMiniWheats

United States30730 Posts

June 22 2014 18:40 GMT

#722

On June 23 2014 03:40 phil.ipp wrote:
so is drg good in zvz?

He can be. Already beat Life earlier this tournament.

panzercrusher

Poland457 Posts

June 22 2014 18:41 GMT

#723

I like those BW-esque doom shots

Squat

Sweden7978 Posts

June 22 2014 18:41 GMT

#724

On June 23 2014 03:38 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:

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Nothing against Scarlett she can win if she wants. But I cheer for Life and if the player I cheer for is out, there's no point for me in watching.

That's perfectly fine and I often do the same thing. I just don't get the "wrong player part". I've never felt that the wrong player won when SoS beat JD at Blizzcon, even though I was greatly disappointed, and I never blamed his fans for being happy. I congratulated him and moved on.

jakethesnake

Canada4948 Posts

June 22 2014 18:41 GMT

#725

On June 23 2014 03:40 DJHelium wrote:
Are there some kind of notifcation sounds coming from the stream?

ok, not just me. Yeah, some sort of two toned beep driving me nuts here.

Thrax

Canada1755 Posts

June 22 2014 18:41 GMT

#726

On June 23 2014 03:38 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:

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Nothing against Scarlett she can win if she wants. But I cheer for Life and if the player I cheer for is out, there's no point for me in watching.

You don't have to tell us that you're no longer watching, it's ok. Go watch the World Cup or something.

MosART

United States1899 Posts

June 22 2014 18:42 GMT

#727

So much hype that hype music needed to back up the casters

Darkhorse

United States23455 Posts

June 22 2014 18:42 GMT

#728

On June 23 2014 03:41 Thrax wrote:

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You don't have to tell us that you're no longer watching, it's ok. Go watch the World Cup or something.

Then he'll see Koreans losing again and be even more sad.

DJHelium

Sweden13480 Posts

June 22 2014 18:42 GMT

#729

On June 23 2014 03:41 Squat wrote:

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That was a well deserved victory if I've ever seen one!

jjakji getting protossed out of WCS on the other hand... !

stuchiu

Fiddler's Green42661 Posts

June 22 2014 18:42 GMT

#730

On June 23 2014 03:42 Darkhorse wrote:

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Then he'll see Koreans losing again and be even more sad.

But then he'll see the referees winning and yell KESPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Vindicare605

United States16129 Posts

June 22 2014 18:42 GMT

#731

On June 23 2014 03:40 Wintex wrote:

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"You know what aren't good against Mutalisks? Stalkers"
bro

Against as many as DRG had Stalkers alone are actually quite bad.

You need Archons or Phoenix vs that many. Pure Stalker gets demolished.

Jazzman88

Canada2228 Posts

June 22 2014 18:43 GMT

#732

On June 23 2014 03:39 Exarl25 wrote:

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On June 23 2014 03:32 Jazzman88 wrote:

On June 23 2014 03:28 Exarl25 wrote:

On June 23 2014 03:12 Jazzman88 wrote:

On June 23 2014 03:09 Exarl25 wrote:

On June 23 2014 03:08 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Why the hell isn't there DRG vs Seed on main stream or something?

MLG just don't care. I can't think of another explanation. Can they really be this incompetent after so many years of experience? SC2 was thrown in as filler because they couldn't get a moba and they give absolutely no fucks about it beyond that.

Wow, how quickly everybody turns. Everyone was so excited for another SC2 MLG. We really need to stop shooting ourselves in the foot by bitching about every single fucking thing that goes wrong in every tournament, especially ones that we don't pay for. Was it perfect? No. Is the company 'literally Hitler' for making mistakes? No. Are they going to want to keep investing in the NA scene if we bitch like this? OF COURSE THEY FUCKING WON'T. So if you have something to contribute, do it without sounding like MLG is the shit you're scraping off your shoes, and then maybe something will actually get improved instead of just dropped.

I'm sorry but this attitude is disgusting. We should shut up and accept the shit they shovel at us because if we don't they will be petty enough to pull out over some forum comments hurting their feelings? MLG are at this point so, so far behind every other tournament out there. They have a never ending stream of tech issues, all they have to do to redeem themselves is show good games but they can't even do that much. Not to mention the excuses and blatant lies, treating the community like morons. They deserve to be criticized. An optimist might say that it will encourage them to actually turn themselves around and put things right but history shows how unlikely that is, they have had more than enough opportunity for that already.

Of course they deserve to be criticized. No one should suggest they should not be criticized. However, the shit that the SC2 scene, particularly in NA, counter-shovels on anybody who fucks up even a little bit is equally awful. Criticism that is for the express purpose of saying how awful something is is NOT real criticism, that's just whining. And whining NEVER leads to good results. If people were to phrase their criticism constructively instead of talking about 'worst MLG ever' and how disgusted they are, not only is it more likely to have an effect, but it encourages people who maybe didn't care to get involved at first to get themselves into it, as opposed to the vitriol getting thrown around which actively discourages less-involved people from touching the rage-filled catfight that is pretty typical of complaints I've seen over the past few days.

Wow this is like traveling back in time. We had this debate over and over again in the days when SC2 was top dog and Sundance and co were happy to grovel and beg "Give us another chance, buy our shirts, we get it, we will improve!" Every event would be followed by gigantic lists of constructive criticism that would all be ignored. Then they dropped us without a word the moment it was convenient.

At this point, for people who have been around and paying attention, there are only two possible explanations.

1. MLG top brass are incompetent beyond saving
2. They simply don't care.

I was always defending MLG but my patience has long run dry. SC2 is only at this event because they needed something to fill the gap. They will drop us again without a second thought or a single word said. I'm enjoying the good games that actually get shown but my hopes and expectations for MLG go absolutely nowhere beyond that. They are a terrible organization who will never turn things around.

And I can understand how you can feel that way. My point is that feeling that way doesn't excuse the kind of crap that gets posted all the time. Period. Just because you have no patience for someone's excuses doesn't excuse treating them like shit. I teach for a living, and see excuses ALL THE TIME. However, if I run out of patience with the excuses of a grade 12 student and say, "You know what, this is literally the worst I've ever seen you do. You are fucking terrible for not doing this better. What a joke.", I GET FIRED. Because although my frustration is justified, being an asshole about it is not and makes the situation worse if it does anything.

Zealously

East Gorteau22261 Posts

June 22 2014 18:43 GMT

#733

On June 23 2014 03:41 Squat wrote:

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Every player is the wrong player when winning against Life. Is that unfair and rude to the player and his/her fans? Probably. Do I care? Life lost so no, screw everything

Slakter

Sweden1947 Posts

June 22 2014 18:43 GMT

#734

On June 23 2014 03:42 Darkhorse wrote:

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Then he'll see Koreans losing again and be even more sad.

If I could afford to gift you TL+ I would.

Squat

Sweden7978 Posts

June 22 2014 18:43 GMT

#735

On June 23 2014 03:40 Yorkie wrote:

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Oh it's been said hundreds of times. It's like Stephano basically

At one point she was legitimately competing with top Koreans and doing fairly well. So was Stephano. Again, where are the hordes of blind fans in this thread saying she's the best player in the world because she beat Life? She beat Life, it's a good win, nothing more.

Foreverkul

United States1649 Posts

June 22 2014 18:43 GMT

#736

On June 23 2014 03:38 Zealously wrote:

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On June 23 2014 03:36 Foreverkul wrote:

On June 23 2014 03:35 Zealously wrote:

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On June 23 2014 03:33 Shellshock wrote:

On June 23 2014 03:32 Foreverkul wrote:

On June 23 2014 03:31 jakethesnake wrote:

On June 23 2014 03:30 Foreverkul wrote:

On June 23 2014 03:28 Exarl25 wrote:

On June 23 2014 03:12 Jazzman88 wrote:
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Wow, how quickly everybody turns. Everyone was so excited for another SC2 MLG. We really need to stop shooting ourselves in the foot by bitching about every single fucking thing that goes wrong in every tournament, especially ones that we don't pay for. Was it perfect? No. Is the company 'literally Hitler' for making mistakes? No. Are they going to want to keep investing in the NA scene if we bitch like this? OF COURSE THEY FUCKING WON'T. So if you have something to contribute, do it without sounding like MLG is the shit you're scraping off your shoes, and then maybe something will actually get improved instead of just dropped.

Switch to an Invite only tournament featuring 16 players and do 4 round robin pools to seed a double elimination bracket. MLG gets the views they want without a massive set up and we get amazing games all weekend!

and remember the backlash last time MLG tried to do an invite only tourney?

No I dont? When was the last time they did that?

Start of hots. People raged about no open bracket

Really? Why were people mad at that? Was it really that many people?

A lot of people were upset about it, yes.

I mean, its not like we SAW any open bracket this MLG anyways, they might as well NOT have happened. So why did people get mad about not having open bracket? What is their reason?

That an invitational denies other players (American and otherwise) the chance to make a name for themselves.

It means they can invite the "Americans and otherwise." Basically invite the people that will get the most views at MLG. They can still have qualifiers to fill spots if they want. MLG is just catching a lot of crap so I think they should just simplify it. If they didn't screw up production so much with weird schedules and being unprepared, we wouldn't have so much to laugh at them for.

Just keep it simple.

KingofdaHipHop

United States25602 Posts

June 22 2014 18:44 GMT

#737

In the next round and onward, there'll be only two games going on at a time so things will hopefully be a lot smoother than what just happened.