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[SPL] Jin Air vs CJ Round 4 2014 - Page 16

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Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-10 13:36:15
June 10 2014 13:35 GMT
#301
MKP 4 - 1
Maru 1 - 4

I guess they can't be good at the same time. Maru won WCS Korea when MKP failed to get his tenth premier league / Code S in a row. And he also barely missed the nestea award the season after
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Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
June 10 2014 13:36 GMT
#302
CJ in a good shape, they could win this round if it goes well.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
June 10 2014 13:36 GMT
#303
On June 10 2014 22:33 ZenithM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2014 22:31 sharkie wrote:
I dont think any toss has experience vs mech

Yeah, that's the funny thing. They still deal with it quite simply.
And then we had sOs winning with carriers last time, although they're the most "jokish" unit Protoss has.


I think herO played that quite perfectly. Testing Maru's defenses with the Immortal/Archon timing, mutlipronging with zealots/DTs, Warp Prism, blink and eventually switching into an army that isn't practically undealable for mech.

Should have expanded more though.
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
June 10 2014 13:36 GMT
#304
On June 10 2014 22:30 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2014 22:23 Undead1993 wrote:
they should really stop sending maru in those ace matches

He has the most ace wins this season

i don't care i need those sos points :D:D
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
June 10 2014 13:36 GMT
#305
CJ to go 5-0 and secure a playoff spot next week ez
and all players can participate in GSL ss3
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18636 Posts
June 10 2014 13:36 GMT
#306
Cj hero is the most adaptive player in the world
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
June 10 2014 13:37 GMT
#307
On June 10 2014 22:36 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2014 22:33 ZenithM wrote:
On June 10 2014 22:31 sharkie wrote:
I dont think any toss has experience vs mech

Yeah, that's the funny thing. They still deal with it quite simply.
And then we had sOs winning with carriers last time, although they're the most "jokish" unit Protoss has.


I think herO played that quite perfectly. Testing Maru's defenses with the Immortal/Archon timing, mutlipronging with zealots/DTs, Warp Prism, blink and eventually switching into an army that isn't practically undealable for mech.

Should have expanded more though.

And not having Storm with Tempests was quite a mistake.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 10 2014 13:37 GMT
#308
On June 10 2014 22:36 sharkie wrote:
Cj hero is the most adaptive player in the world

unless he's getting proxy gated.
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
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gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2610 Posts
June 10 2014 13:38 GMT
#309
This was so frustrating to watch.
One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
June 10 2014 13:40 GMT
#310
On June 10 2014 22:33 ZenithM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2014 22:31 sharkie wrote:
I dont think any toss has experience vs mech

Yeah, that's the funny thing. They still deal with it quite simply.
And then we had sOs winning with carriers last time, although they're the most "jokish" unit Protoss has.

With some upgrade and some bank to remake the interceptors, they still have the best DPS. If u can afford them, vs mech they're never a bad choice.
gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2610 Posts
June 10 2014 13:42 GMT
#311
we need the goliath back, asap. Doesn't matter how they name that thing!
Goliaths vs carriers were so awesome to watch in bw!
One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
June 10 2014 13:43 GMT
#312
On June 10 2014 22:37 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2014 22:36 Big J wrote:
On June 10 2014 22:33 ZenithM wrote:
On June 10 2014 22:31 sharkie wrote:
I dont think any toss has experience vs mech

Yeah, that's the funny thing. They still deal with it quite simply.
And then we had sOs winning with carriers last time, although they're the most "jokish" unit Protoss has.


I think herO played that quite perfectly. Testing Maru's defenses with the Immortal/Archon timing, mutlipronging with zealots/DTs, Warp Prism, blink and eventually switching into an army that isn't practically undealable for mech.

Should have expanded more though.

And not having Storm with Tempests was quite a mistake.

The phoenix were good enough to protect the tempests. In this configuration I think he made the better choice.
AWalker9
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United Kingdom7229 Posts
June 10 2014 13:43 GMT
#313
On June 10 2014 22:35 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2014 22:33 RHoudini wrote:
herO best player in the world at the moment?

He is among better Protoss players, but not even the best Protoss, let alone the best player in the world.


So beating Innovation, Life, Zest and Flash in Bo3/Bo7 in the last week just means he's just a better Protoss player?
soOjwa has returned to smite all that stand in his way
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-10 13:48:15
June 10 2014 13:47 GMT
#314
On June 10 2014 22:43 AWalker9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2014 22:35 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On June 10 2014 22:33 RHoudini wrote:
herO best player in the world at the moment?

He is among better Protoss players, but not even the best Protoss, let alone the best player in the world.


So beating Innovation, Life, Zest and Flash in Bo3/Bo7 in the last week just means he's just a better Protoss player?

When I said among better Protoss players, I meant among the best. I guess I didn't express myself correctly.

I would call him top 5 Protoss, with Zest, Classic, Rain and sOs there, occasionally Parting, but they are constantly switching places from one week to another.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-10 13:49:09
June 10 2014 13:47 GMT
#315
On June 10 2014 22:40 samurai80 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2014 22:33 ZenithM wrote:
On June 10 2014 22:31 sharkie wrote:
I dont think any toss has experience vs mech

Yeah, that's the funny thing. They still deal with it quite simply.
And then we had sOs winning with carriers last time, although they're the most "jokish" unit Protoss has.

With some upgrade and some bank to remake the interceptors, they still have the best DPS. If u can afford them, vs mech they're never a bad choice.

What is a bad choice vs mech though?
PvMech is really this matchup where you have so many good options to pick from that it's confusing for Protoss himself.
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
June 10 2014 13:49 GMT
#316
On June 10 2014 22:43 samurai80 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2014 22:37 TheDwf wrote:
On June 10 2014 22:36 Big J wrote:
On June 10 2014 22:33 ZenithM wrote:
On June 10 2014 22:31 sharkie wrote:
I dont think any toss has experience vs mech

Yeah, that's the funny thing. They still deal with it quite simply.
And then we had sOs winning with carriers last time, although they're the most "jokish" unit Protoss has.


I think herO played that quite perfectly. Testing Maru's defenses with the Immortal/Archon timing, mutlipronging with zealots/DTs, Warp Prism, blink and eventually switching into an army that isn't practically undealable for mech.

Should have expanded more though.

And not having Storm with Tempests was quite a mistake.

The phoenix were good enough to protect the tempests. In this configuration I think he made the better choice.


The phoenix was a move after he had already won the game. He could have made VRs or Carrier or just more tempest instead, and would have still won, since Maru was already a dead fish in the water, mining only from 1.5bases and without the potential to do anything offensive.

Dwf is right. He should have had some storm templar with this. With the vikings kiting and therefore clumping like they did, and the way the aircontrol is all the Protoss needs to insta-win in that situation, even saccing multiple templar into ghost/tank for a single storm on that vikingcloud would be worth it.
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
June 10 2014 13:49 GMT
#317
On June 10 2014 22:47 ZenithM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2014 22:40 samurai80 wrote:
On June 10 2014 22:33 ZenithM wrote:
On June 10 2014 22:31 sharkie wrote:
I dont think any toss has experience vs mech

Yeah, that's the funny thing. They still deal with it quite simply.
And then we had sOs winning with carriers last time, although they're the most "jokish" unit Protoss has.

With some upgrade and some bank to remake the interceptors, they still have the best DPS. If u can afford them, vs mech they're never a bad choice.

What is a bad choice vs mech though?

Your army consisting mostly of Stalkers, Sentries and Colossi.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
June 10 2014 18:01 GMT
#318
VODs up
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Almtom
Profile Joined May 2009
Sweden132 Posts
June 12 2014 13:05 GMT
#319
They should know better than to put up 3 terrans.... terran just cant win at the moment so how can u field 3 terrans in a match?
WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3481 Posts
June 12 2014 15:01 GMT
#320
OMG I m 26th in the FPL thanks to CJ
Horang2 fan
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