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Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
June 06 2014 12:46 GMT
#1061
On June 06 2014 21:46 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 21:44 Wintex wrote:
On June 06 2014 21:41 Vindicare605 wrote:
On June 06 2014 21:39 FeyFey wrote:
I am happy to see my concerns come true, when they removed the servos completely. But its fun that the Terran has a Zerg like techswitch option and give them some of their own medicin.


It was a stupid fucking nerf from the get go.

They were too fucking stubborn to nerf the damage on Helbats when it was OBVIOUS that it made no sense for Helbats to do THAT much damage that fucking quickly. So they implement this whack fucking change that ends up gutting the unit when they eventually decide to fucking nerf the damage anyway.

Sometimes Blizzard's logic pisses me off. I'm glad they finally got this one right.

balancing around the issue makes for a better game tbh.

it's the way icefrog balances. pretty good


Dude you cannot balance Starcraft like you balance a MOBA. They are completely different games.

I didn't say that. I say that balancing around the issue is usually better. changes dynamics more than just killing a unit
The Bomber boy
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
June 06 2014 12:46 GMT
#1062
On June 06 2014 21:43 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 21:39 The_Templar wrote:
[image loading]

(Z)Soulkey vs (T)INnoVation
0-1


Map: Habitation Staion


Innovation spawns in the top left
Soulkey spawns in the top right

2:00
Hatchery first vs CC first.
Barracks followed by gas for Innovation.
Soulkey getting a spawning pool followed by an extractor.

4:00
Roach warren for Soulkey.
Innovation getting a factory.
Reactor on the barracks.

5:00
No zergling speed for Soulkey.
Soulkey getting 7 roaches.
Innovation getting a third CC.
Hellions on the way.

6:00
Roaches moving towards the natural, killing two hellions immediately.
Innovation pulls workers.
Innovation pulling and pulling back workers over and over to minimize damage.
Soulkey kills 9 workers and backs off.
Lair for Soulkey.
Hellions force Soulkey to not have drones in his natural.

8:00 (Z)Soulkey 65 vs (T)INnoVation 49
Soulkey getting a third base.
Soulkey researching roach speed.
Soulkey getting an evolution chamber.

9:00 (Z)Soulkey 67 vs (T)INnoVation 62
Soulkey building up his drone count.
Starport for Innovation.
Soulkey scouting with an overseer.
+1 ranged attack for Soulkey.
Innovation putting a tech lab on his factory.
Medivacs on the way.

10:00 (Z)Soulkey 92 vs (T)INnoVation 63
Zergling speed and spire on the way for Soulkey.
Innovation landing a CC at the gold.
Baneling nest for Soulkey.
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AWalker9
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United Kingdom7229 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-06 12:48:12
June 06 2014 12:47 GMT
#1063
On June 06 2014 21:45 Squat wrote:
Why is SK doing this? I mean I'm happy bout Inno winning, but I am a little disappointed at SK's apparent lack of confidence in his standard play. Innovation wanted to tango, but SK apparently doesn't feel like it.


I suppose he might not have practiced vs T a lot either that or he seems like he doesn't believe he can win in a macro game against Inno.
soOjwa has returned to smite all that stand in his way
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
June 06 2014 12:48 GMT
#1064
On June 06 2014 21:47 AWalker9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 21:45 Squat wrote:
Why is SK doing this? I mean I'm happy bout Inno winning, but I am a little disappointed at SK's apparent lack of confidence in his standard play. Innovation wanted to tango, but SK apparently doesn't feel like it.


I suppose he might not have practiced vs T a lot either that he seems like he doesn't believe he can win in a macro game against Inno.

Maybe also underestimation? Like "you're on a foreign team" or so? Dunno where Innovation is living/training currently
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
June 06 2014 12:48 GMT
#1065
On June 06 2014 21:45 Squat wrote:
Why is SK doing this? I mean I'm happy bout Inno winning, but I am a little disappointed at SK's apparent lack of confidence in his standard play. Innovation wanted to tango, but SK apparently doesn't feel like it.


Hendralisk said the new patch killed the old ling meta so we're at this strange awkward point where all the zergs have to open roaches to not die.
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Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
June 06 2014 12:48 GMT
#1066
On June 06 2014 21:46 Rainmansc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 21:45 Squat wrote:
Why is SK doing this? I mean I'm happy bout Inno winning, but I am a little disappointed at SK's apparent lack of confidence in his standard play. Innovation wanted to tango, but SK apparently doesn't feel like it.

You can't standard play at this current meta.

Why do people keep saying this? I've seen zergs beats terran straight up just fine post patch, plenty of times.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
June 06 2014 12:48 GMT
#1067
Were there 2 tank icons on the production tab for a moment?
Year of MaxPax
jakethesnake
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada4948 Posts
June 06 2014 12:48 GMT
#1068
Oh the pain of having to leave for work in the middle of this epic series

Go Soulkey!
Community Newsjjakji || jjakji || jjakji || jjakji || jjakji || jjakji || jjakji nshoseo.jpg
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 06 2014 12:50 GMT
#1069
On June 06 2014 21:48 sudete wrote:
Were there 2 tank icons on the production tab for a moment?


It happens when there is no space near factory that tank can pop out, so next one can't actually begin.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
djraphi23
Profile Joined August 2013
France2262 Posts
June 06 2014 12:50 GMT
#1070
4 scans in row right ?
Polt | Bomber | MMA | Taeja | Maru | TY | Byun | Innovation
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
June 06 2014 12:50 GMT
#1071
On June 06 2014 21:46 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 21:43 The_Templar wrote:
On June 06 2014 21:39 The_Templar wrote:
[image loading]

(Z)Soulkey vs (T)INnoVation
0-1


Map: Habitation Staion


Innovation spawns in the top left
Soulkey spawns in the top right

2:00
Hatchery first vs CC first.
Barracks followed by gas for Innovation.
Soulkey getting a spawning pool followed by an extractor.

4:00
Roach warren for Soulkey.
Innovation getting a factory.
Reactor on the barracks.

5:00
No zergling speed for Soulkey.
Soulkey getting 7 roaches.
Innovation getting a third CC.
Hellions on the way.

6:00
Roaches moving towards the natural, killing two hellions immediately.
Innovation pulls workers.
Innovation pulling and pulling back workers over and over to minimize damage.
Soulkey kills 9 workers and backs off.
Lair for Soulkey.
Hellions force Soulkey to not have drones in his natural.

8:00 (Z)Soulkey 65 vs (T)INnoVation 49
Soulkey getting a third base.
Soulkey researching roach speed.
Soulkey getting an evolution chamber.

9:00 (Z)Soulkey 67 vs (T)INnoVation 62
Soulkey building up his drone count.
Starport for Innovation.
Soulkey scouting with an overseer.
+1 ranged attack for Soulkey.
Innovation putting a tech lab on his factory.
Medivacs on the way.

10:00 (Z)Soulkey 92 vs (T)INnoVation 63
Zergling speed and spire on the way for Soulkey.
Innovation landing a CC at the gold.
Baneling nest for Soulkey.

11:00 (Z)Soulkey 113 vs (T)INnoVation 98
Innovation harasses with some hellions.
Baneling speed on the way.
Zergling speed finally about to finish.
+1 carapace for Soulkey.
Innovation building tanks.
Armory for Innovation.

12:00 (Z)Soulkey 132 vs (T)INnoVation 115
There was a contaminate on the factory?
Innovation walling his gold.
Fourth base for Soulkey.
+1 flier weapons for Soulkey.

13:00 (Z)Soulkey 137 vs (T)INnoVation 129
Mutalisks attempting to harass.
Soulkey scouts with a zergling and finds a tank and bunker position.

14:00 (Z)Soulkey 163 vs (T)INnoVation 159
Innovation scans the fourth base.
+2/2 for Innovation, +2/1 for Soulkey on the way.
Mutalisks sort of wandering around.
A small bio force is clearing creep.
Soulkey moving across the bottom of the map with his ground forces.

15:00 (Z)Soulkey 200 vs (T)INnoVation 200
Innovation moving out.
Innovation scanning EVERYWHERE, but misses a counterattack from Soulkey that is ready.
Innovation going for the attack.
Soulkey is still ready to counterattack.
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
June 06 2014 12:51 GMT
#1072
On June 06 2014 21:48 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 21:45 Squat wrote:
Why is SK doing this? I mean I'm happy bout Inno winning, but I am a little disappointed at SK's apparent lack of confidence in his standard play. Innovation wanted to tango, but SK apparently doesn't feel like it.


Hendralisk said the new patch killed the old ling meta so we're at this strange awkward point where all the zergs have to open roaches to not die.

Yeah but it was like that for a while before too, zerg would get 5-7 roaches and then just go ling/bling/muta after. I don't see the need to commit to a big roach push that the terran would see coming from a mile away every game.

I don't know, I think some smaller adjustments can keep zergs relatively safe early, I don't think they should just throw out the idea of a standard macro game.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
June 06 2014 12:51 GMT
#1073
On June 06 2014 21:44 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 21:44 deacon.frost wrote:
On June 06 2014 21:39 Wintex wrote:
Bomber won :D!

Spoilerz man, spoilerz :/ Sinec I am missing HSC from today's evening I was going to see vods on Monday... I wasn't expecting results in GSL thred...

sorry ;; it's only 1-0

Well, it's HSC, so i cannot be mad 'bout some1 because of the most relaxed tournament out there
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16097 Posts
June 06 2014 12:51 GMT
#1074
woooooooooow.

aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
PerSe
Profile Joined June 2013
United Kingdom550 Posts
June 06 2014 12:52 GMT
#1075
huuuge flank
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 06 2014 12:52 GMT
#1076
Inno in danger, SK is sick with his hive tech..
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
June 06 2014 12:52 GMT
#1077
these engagements.
The Bomber boy
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
June 06 2014 12:53 GMT
#1078
+ Show Spoiler [HSC SPOILER] +
BOMBERRR!!! 2-0!
The Bomber boy
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
June 06 2014 12:53 GMT
#1079
Soulkey is playing a great game though.
Moderator
polpot
Profile Joined April 2012
3002 Posts
June 06 2014 12:53 GMT
#1080
Sick play from Soulkey this game
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