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KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
April 30 2014 23:42 GMT
#221
On May 01 2014 08:40 Yorkie wrote:
For the last time, since it's been mentioned three or four times already, losing one series to a foreigner doesn't mean you have to retire. He got picked up by a super healthy team really recently, and it would make no sense for him to retire right now. I think he's far more likely to put his nose to the grindstone and practice than give up

ps they're joking
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
April 30 2014 23:43 GMT
#222
WCS AM: Challenger

(Z)Ian vs (Z)Check
0-1


Map: Overgrowth


Ian spawns in the bottom left
Check spawns in the top right
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Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
April 30 2014 23:43 GMT
#223
On May 01 2014 08:42 KristofferAG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2014 08:40 Yorkie wrote:
For the last time, since it's been mentioned three or four times already, losing one series to a foreigner doesn't mean you have to retire. He got picked up by a super healthy team really recently, and it would make no sense for him to retire right now. I think he's far more likely to put his nose to the grindstone and practice than give up

ps they're joking

Maybe the last guy was, but not all of them. Coupled with the fact that Nathanias called him "the teamless terran" twice in the broadcast I can never tell how informed people are TT
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
kaykoose
Profile Joined February 2014
United States2302 Posts
April 30 2014 23:44 GMT
#224
Suppy > Kespa
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 30 2014 23:44 GMT
#225
Wow alive got crushed? Anyone think he might have stopped practicing and is going to retire?
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-30 23:47:03
April 30 2014 23:46 GMT
#226
On May 01 2014 08:40 Yorkie wrote:
For the last time, since it's been mentioned three or four times already, losing one series to a foreigner doesn't mean you have to retire. He got picked up by a super healthy team really recently, and it would make no sense for him to retire right now. I think he's far more likely to put his nose to the grindstone and practice than give up


I can't tell if people are joking, but I think that has been the perpetual curse for aLive: He just cannot generate community hype for some reason. It's not like he has no personality (though he is admittedly not an extremely outgoing character like MC), he's done very well in several premier tournaments, demonstrated good play in the past, and was even signed on to fucking EG. When a player manages to do that, they should have attracted more attention, but alas.

But for some reason, he's always in the background and overlooked. Which is why people missed him going to MVP, and assume he's teamless and about to retire (since they just saw Genius and TheSTC go).
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
April 30 2014 23:46 GMT
#227
On May 01 2014 08:39 UberNuB wrote:
aLive to retire?

Congrats Suppy!

Please stop assuming this people
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
April 30 2014 23:47 GMT
#228
On May 01 2014 08:43 The_Templar wrote:
WCS AM: Challenger

(Z)Ian vs (Z)Check
0-1


Map: Overgrowth


Ian spawns in the bottom left
Check spawns in the top right

2:00
Spawning pool before hatchery for Check.
Ian going hatchery first.

3:00
Zergling speed for Ian, followed by no more gas mining.
Drones for both sides.

4:00
More drones.
Extra queens for Ian.
Check going for a small zergling poke which sees extra queens and no lair or gas.

5:00
Ian getting three gas, of which Check sees one.
Roach warren for Ian.
Check is half done with his third.
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KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
April 30 2014 23:49 GMT
#229
Feels like people are overvaluing a single drone kill. I don't see how it matters very much in this game.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
April 30 2014 23:51 GMT
#230
On May 01 2014 08:47 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2014 08:43 The_Templar wrote:
WCS AM: Challenger

(Z)Ian vs (Z)Check
0-1


Map: Overgrowth


Ian spawns in the bottom left
Check spawns in the top right

2:00
Spawning pool before hatchery for Check.
Ian going hatchery first.

3:00
Zergling speed for Ian, followed by no more gas mining.
Drones for both sides.

4:00
More drones.
Extra queens for Ian.
Check going for a small zergling poke which sees extra queens and no lair or gas.

5:00
Ian getting three gas, of which Check sees one.
Roach warren for Ian.
Check is half done with his third.

6:00
Two more gas for Check.
Evolution chamber for Check.
Ian starting his Lair.
Two zerglings get in Check's main and see some stuff.

7:00 (Z)Ian 59 vs (Z)Check 64
Check sees roaches and the third base of Ian.
Roach speed for Ian.
Check getting a roach warren.

8:00 (Z)Ian 77 vs (Z)Check 79
+1/1 for Ian, +1 ranged for Check.
Roach speed on the way for Check.

9:00 (Z)Ian 98vs (Z)Check 112
Ian and Check both grabbing more extractors.
Check killing the rocks outside his natural.
Ian going for an attack on the third but Check is ready.

10:00 (Z)Ian 141 vs (Z)Check 142
Ian runs roaches into the main and natural and kills queens.
Check immediately attacks and kills a bunch of roaches.
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
April 30 2014 23:51 GMT
#231
On May 01 2014 08:49 KristofferAG wrote:
Feels like people are overvaluing a single drone kill. I don't see how it matters very much in this game.

Queens died too.
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AWalker9
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United Kingdom7229 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-30 23:52:11
April 30 2014 23:51 GMT
#232
On the note of retirement does anyone know what Sage is doing? As far as I know he didnt' try to qualify for any WCS this Season.
soOjwa has returned to smite all that stand in his way
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
April 30 2014 23:52 GMT
#233
I feel this is going to be another 3-0. Check just seems better.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
April 30 2014 23:54 GMT
#234
On May 01 2014 08:51 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2014 08:47 The_Templar wrote:
On May 01 2014 08:43 The_Templar wrote:
WCS AM: Challenger

(Z)Ian vs (Z)Check
0-1


Map: Overgrowth


Ian spawns in the bottom left
Check spawns in the top right

2:00
Spawning pool before hatchery for Check.
Ian going hatchery first.

3:00
Zergling speed for Ian, followed by no more gas mining.
Drones for both sides.

4:00
More drones.
Extra queens for Ian.
Check going for a small zergling poke which sees extra queens and no lair or gas.

5:00
Ian getting three gas, of which Check sees one.
Roach warren for Ian.
Check is half done with his third.

6:00
Two more gas for Check.
Evolution chamber for Check.
Ian starting his Lair.
Two zerglings get in Check's main and see some stuff.

7:00 (Z)Ian 59 vs (Z)Check 64
Check sees roaches and the third base of Ian.
Roach speed for Ian.
Check getting a roach warren.

8:00 (Z)Ian 77 vs (Z)Check 79
+1/1 for Ian, +1 ranged for Check.
Roach speed on the way for Check.

9:00 (Z)Ian 98vs (Z)Check 112
Ian and Check both grabbing more extractors.
Check killing the rocks outside his natural.
Ian going for an attack on the third but Check is ready.

10:00 (Z)Ian 141 vs (Z)Check 142
Ian runs roaches into the main and natural and kills queens.
Check immediately attacks and kills a bunch of roaches.

12:00 (Z)Ian 154 vs (Z)Check 169
Roach tunneling and burrow for Ian.
Ian contaminates the evolution chamber.
Ian catches a bunch of roaches trying to kill rocks outside his natural and kills them all.
Check getting a bunch more roaches though and gets a good concave when Ian chases.

13:00 (Z)Ian 152 vs (Z)Check 150
A bunch of roaches go for the third of Check while Check is chasing a bunch of roaches towards his main.
Ian attacks the gold base but loses roaches while running away.

15:00 (Z)Ian 168 vs (Z)Check 199
Check charges into the third base and kills it outright.
Check going for the natural and kills the roach warren.
Ian is already banking money.
Ian going for a base trade.

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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-30 23:55:56
April 30 2014 23:54 GMT
#235
On May 01 2014 08:51 AWalker9 wrote:
On the note of retirement does anyone know what Sage is doing? As far as I know he didnt' try to qualify for any WCS this Season.


No matches since February of this year. I assume inactive at the very least. Best to ask Catz
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
April 30 2014 23:55 GMT
#236
On May 01 2014 08:52 Bagration wrote:
I feel this is going to be another 3-0. Check just seems better.


Agreed. Even after Ian got a perfect engagement, and before he overextended, his supply was still lower. Check isn't doing anything fancy and is outmacroing Ian. Ian might be a more creative player, but Check is more solid. In roach mirrors, more efficient build orders are king. If Ian wants to win I think he should try to get a non-mirror situation, such as going for mutas.

The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
April 30 2014 23:55 GMT
#237
On May 01 2014 08:54 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2014 08:51 The_Templar wrote:
On May 01 2014 08:47 The_Templar wrote:
On May 01 2014 08:43 The_Templar wrote:
WCS AM: Challenger

(Z)Ian vs (Z)Check
0-1


Map: Overgrowth


Ian spawns in the bottom left
Check spawns in the top right

2:00
Spawning pool before hatchery for Check.
Ian going hatchery first.

3:00
Zergling speed for Ian, followed by no more gas mining.
Drones for both sides.

4:00
More drones.
Extra queens for Ian.
Check going for a small zergling poke which sees extra queens and no lair or gas.

5:00
Ian getting three gas, of which Check sees one.
Roach warren for Ian.
Check is half done with his third.

6:00
Two more gas for Check.
Evolution chamber for Check.
Ian starting his Lair.
Two zerglings get in Check's main and see some stuff.

7:00 (Z)Ian 59 vs (Z)Check 64
Check sees roaches and the third base of Ian.
Roach speed for Ian.
Check getting a roach warren.

8:00 (Z)Ian 77 vs (Z)Check 79
+1/1 for Ian, +1 ranged for Check.
Roach speed on the way for Check.

9:00 (Z)Ian 98vs (Z)Check 112
Ian and Check both grabbing more extractors.
Check killing the rocks outside his natural.
Ian going for an attack on the third but Check is ready.

10:00 (Z)Ian 141 vs (Z)Check 142
Ian runs roaches into the main and natural and kills queens.
Check immediately attacks and kills a bunch of roaches.

12:00 (Z)Ian 154 vs (Z)Check 169
Roach tunneling and burrow for Ian.
Ian contaminates the evolution chamber.
Ian catches a bunch of roaches trying to kill rocks outside his natural and kills them all.
Check getting a bunch more roaches though and gets a good concave when Ian chases.

13:00 (Z)Ian 152 vs (Z)Check 150
A bunch of roaches go for the third of Check while Check is chasing a bunch of roaches towards his main.
Ian attacks the gold base but loses roaches while running away.

15:00 (Z)Ian 168 vs (Z)Check 199
Check charges into the third base and kills it outright.
Check going for the natural and kills the roach warren.
Ian is already banking money.
Ian going for a base trade.


16:00 (Z)Ian 98 vs (Z)Check 170
Spine crawlers in Check's main from Ian.
Check built a few zerglings in his main.
Check attacking his own natural which Ian has taken.

17:00 (Z)Ian 71 vs (Z)Check 100
Ian can't hold Check's natural and GG's.
Check takes a 2-0 lead!
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
April 30 2014 23:55 GMT
#238
Poll: Recommend Check vs Ian Game 2?

★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
 
0%

★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
 
0%

★★★- Good game (0)
 
0%

★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
 
0%

★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

0 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Check vs Ian Game 2?

(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season


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KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
April 30 2014 23:56 GMT
#239
On May 01 2014 08:51 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2014 08:49 KristofferAG wrote:
Feels like people are overvaluing a single drone kill. I don't see how it matters very much in this game.

Queens died too.

I'm not talking about that moment in particular.

Just in general.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
AWalker9
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United Kingdom7229 Posts
April 30 2014 23:56 GMT
#240
Check as always is just solid.
soOjwa has returned to smite all that stand in his way
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