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[WCS AM] Challenger Day 2 Season 2 2014 - Page 11

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AWalker9
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United Kingdom7229 Posts
April 30 2014 23:31 GMT
#201
On May 01 2014 08:31 Boucot wrote:
o_o Did aLive pull a Genius ?

Anyway happy for Suppy !


Not quite, Genius was a lot worse
soOjwa has returned to smite all that stand in his way
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
April 30 2014 23:32 GMT
#202
On May 01 2014 08:24 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2014 08:23 Yorkie wrote:
On May 01 2014 08:22 Shellshock wrote:
On May 01 2014 08:19 usethis2 wrote:
I don't think this is aLive. Seriously. There is no micro at all.

I've always found his tvz micro to be rather lackluster for a Korean Terran stretching back to WoL

He's never been THAT bad

Idk can't say cause I'm not able to watch but his splitting vs banes is typically poor for someone on his level. It sounds like it was completely absent this time though

he literally ran into them.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 30 2014 23:32 GMT
#203
I hope Ian holds for wcs americhinastraliazealandwan
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7798 Posts
April 30 2014 23:34 GMT
#204
On May 01 2014 08:31 usethis2 wrote:
Is this Check the same Check from WC3?

nope
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
April 30 2014 23:34 GMT
#205
On May 01 2014 08:30 The_Templar wrote:
WCS AM: Challenger

(Z)Ian vs (Z)Check
0-0


Map: King Sejong Station


Ian spawns in the bottom right
Check spawns in the top left

2:00
Hatchery first for both players, followed by spawning pools.
Gas for Check but not Ian.
Both players scout the opposing expansion.

3:00
Ian building a spore crawler?
Ian burrows the spore crawler and kills Check's scouting overlord.

4:00
Zergling speed for Check.
Ian still on no gas, but is getting two more queens.
Ian getting a few zerglings.

5:00
3 gas on the way for Ian.
Check is 7 workers ahead.
Speed about to finish, zerglings moving out for chef,
Ian loses a few zerglings.
Check taking a third.
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TL+ Member
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-30 23:34:49
April 30 2014 23:34 GMT
#206
On May 01 2014 08:31 RPR_Tempest wrote:
What are you guys yapping about, KR > NA ping isn't even that bad.

Obviously lag is not even close to the only factor, Suppy played really well. I may look up winrates to help my point, but online KR to NA series are way more prone to upsets. Everyone goes full "America holds!' and then the ro16 rolls around and suddenly there's only Koreans left and everyone goes "Wait i thought foreigners had improved."
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
April 30 2014 23:36 GMT
#207
This is a really well thought out build by Ian. The overlord snipe followed by the spore as part of the wall-off is pretty cool. Still have to favour Check overall; he just seems like the more well rounded player.
usethis2
Profile Joined December 2010
2164 Posts
April 30 2014 23:36 GMT
#208
On May 01 2014 08:34 RPR_Tempest wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2014 08:31 usethis2 wrote:
Is this Check the same Check from WC3?

nope

ty
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7798 Posts
April 30 2014 23:36 GMT
#209
On May 01 2014 08:34 Yorkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2014 08:31 RPR_Tempest wrote:
What are you guys yapping about, KR > NA ping isn't even that bad.

Obviously lag is not even close to the only factor, Suppy played really well. I may look up winrates to help my point, but online KR to NA series are way more prone to upsets. Everyone goes full "America holds!' and then the ro16 rolls around and suddenly there's only Koreans left and everyone goes "Wait i thought foreigners had improved."

Online series are more prone to upsets regardless of what server they're playing on. NA vs NA, EU vs KR, KR vs NA. KR vs KR. It's just how the game works, LAN Tournament > Online Tournament > Ladder > Practice Game. Beating someone at a LAN is how you prove you're better than someone :D
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
April 30 2014 23:38 GMT
#210
On May 01 2014 08:34 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2014 08:30 The_Templar wrote:
WCS AM: Challenger

(Z)Ian vs (Z)Check
0-0


Map: King Sejong Station


Ian spawns in the bottom right
Check spawns in the top left

2:00
Hatchery first for both players, followed by spawning pools.
Gas for Check but not Ian.
Both players scout the opposing expansion.

3:00
Ian building a spore crawler?
Ian burrows the spore crawler and kills Check's scouting overlord.

4:00
Zergling speed for Check.
Ian still on no gas, but is getting two more queens.
Ian getting a few zerglings.

5:00
3 gas on the way for Ian.
Check is 7 workers ahead.
Speed about to finish, zerglings moving out for chef,
Ian loses a few zerglings.
Check taking a third.

6:00
2 evolution chambers, roach warren, and Lair for Ian, who also walls off.
Roach warren on the way for Check.
Check gets into the main base of Ian and kills a bunch of zerglings and a drone.

7:00 (Z)Ian 59 vs (Z)Check 66
Lair for Check.
Check getting 22 workers.
Ian getting his third.
Ian has seen the third base for a while.
Roach speed for Ian.

8:00 (Z)Ian 70 vs (Z)Check 78
Zerglings cancel Ian's third base.
Roaches for both players.
+1/1 for Ian, just +1 ranged for Check.
Ian rebuilding his third base.

9:00 (Z)Ian 90 vs (Z)Check 117
Ian is protecting his third with a bunch of roaches.
+2/2 for Ian.
Spore crawler from the beginning of the game kills an overseer.

10:00 (Z)Ian 106 vs (Z)Check 142
Check going for the third but there are too many roaches so far.
Zerglings get into the natural and main of Ian.
+1 armor for Check.
+2/2 is half done for Ian already.
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TL+ Member
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
April 30 2014 23:38 GMT
#211
Really cute contaminates from Ian
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7798 Posts
April 30 2014 23:38 GMT
#212
On May 01 2014 08:38 KristofferAG wrote:
Really cute contaminates from Ian

At least in SEA, it's kinda become the meta in roach vs roach
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
April 30 2014 23:39 GMT
#213
On May 01 2014 08:36 RPR_Tempest wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2014 08:34 Yorkie wrote:
On May 01 2014 08:31 RPR_Tempest wrote:
What are you guys yapping about, KR > NA ping isn't even that bad.

Obviously lag is not even close to the only factor, Suppy played really well. I may look up winrates to help my point, but online KR to NA series are way more prone to upsets. Everyone goes full "America holds!' and then the ro16 rolls around and suddenly there's only Koreans left and everyone goes "Wait i thought foreigners had improved."

Online series are more prone to upsets regardless of what server they're playing on. NA vs NA, EU vs KR, KR vs NA. KR vs KR. It's just how the game works, LAN Tournament > Online Tournament > Ladder > Practice Game. Beating someone at a LAN is how you prove you're better than someone :D

Agreed, which is why i think the format of 1 single online bo5 to basically determine if you have any shot at decent earnings for the year, let alone a chance at Blizzcon is pretty harsh. But again, people who supported a region lock are probably happy about this and I'm not sure if my opinion is the majority or not haha
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
UberNuB
Profile Joined December 2010
United States365 Posts
April 30 2014 23:39 GMT
#214
aLive to retire?

Congrats Suppy!
the absence of evidence, is not the evidence of absence.
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-30 23:41:19
April 30 2014 23:40 GMT
#215
For the last time, since it's been mentioned three or four times already, losing one series to a foreigner doesn't mean you have to retire. He got picked up by a super healthy team really recently, and it would make no sense for him to retire right now. I think he's far more likely to put his nose to the grindstone and practice than give up
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
April 30 2014 23:41 GMT
#216
On May 01 2014 08:38 RPR_Tempest wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2014 08:38 KristofferAG wrote:
Really cute contaminates from Ian

At least in SEA, it's kinda become the meta in roach vs roach

Man, contaminates were a rarity when I followed the scene. Glad to hear they're being used a lot now :D

Ian getting crushed doe.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
AWalker9
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United Kingdom7229 Posts
April 30 2014 23:41 GMT
#217
Check going to take this game pretty easily after that failed attack by Ian
soOjwa has returned to smite all that stand in his way
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
April 30 2014 23:41 GMT
#218
On May 01 2014 08:38 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2014 08:34 The_Templar wrote:
On May 01 2014 08:30 The_Templar wrote:
WCS AM: Challenger

(Z)Ian vs (Z)Check
0-0


Map: King Sejong Station


Ian spawns in the bottom right
Check spawns in the top left

2:00
Hatchery first for both players, followed by spawning pools.
Gas for Check but not Ian.
Both players scout the opposing expansion.

3:00
Ian building a spore crawler?
Ian burrows the spore crawler and kills Check's scouting overlord.

4:00
Zergling speed for Check.
Ian still on no gas, but is getting two more queens.
Ian getting a few zerglings.

5:00
3 gas on the way for Ian.
Check is 7 workers ahead.
Speed about to finish, zerglings moving out for chef,
Ian loses a few zerglings.
Check taking a third.

6:00
2 evolution chambers, roach warren, and Lair for Ian, who also walls off.
Roach warren on the way for Check.
Check gets into the main base of Ian and kills a bunch of zerglings and a drone.

7:00 (Z)Ian 59 vs (Z)Check 66
Lair for Check.
Check getting 22 workers.
Ian getting his third.
Ian has seen the third base for a while.
Roach speed for Ian.

8:00 (Z)Ian 70 vs (Z)Check 78
Zerglings cancel Ian's third base.
Roaches for both players.
+1/1 for Ian, just +1 ranged for Check.
Ian rebuilding his third base.

9:00 (Z)Ian 90 vs (Z)Check 117
Ian is protecting his third with a bunch of roaches.
+2/2 for Ian.
Spore crawler from the beginning of the game kills an overseer.

10:00 (Z)Ian 106 vs (Z)Check 142
Check going for the third but there are too many roaches so far.
Zerglings get into the natural and main of Ian.
+1 armor for Check.
+2/2 is half done for Ian already.

12:00 (Z)Ian 126 vs (Z)Check 159
Contaminate on the evolution chamber slows down +1/2.
Hydralisk range for Check.
Ian just building roaches and getting upgrades.
Check adding in hydralisks.

13:00 (Z)Ian 176 vs (Z)Check 184
Roach/hydralisk defends a fourth from Check.
Ian moving out with +2/2 against 1/1 and a bit more army.
Ian gets a large concave but hydralisks do their work and Ian loses his army.

14:00 (Z)Ian 182 vs (Z)Check 132
Ian trying to secure his fourth.
Ian going for a baneling nest.
Check is already maxed.
Ian loses some overlords near the center.
Check charges into the third.

Ian GG's!
Check takes a 1-0 lead!
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
April 30 2014 23:41 GMT
#219
Poll: Recommend Check vs Ian Game 1?

★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
 
100%

★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
 
0%

★★★- Good game (0)
 
0%

★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
 
0%

★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

1 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Check vs Ian Game 1?

(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season


Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
usethis2
Profile Joined December 2010
2164 Posts
April 30 2014 23:41 GMT
#220
Too one-sided. Gonna log off.
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