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TheFlexN
Profile Joined March 2012
Israel472 Posts
April 27 2014 13:31 GMT
#1981
On April 27 2014 22:21 pure.Wasted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2014 22:18 TheFlexN wrote:
On April 27 2014 22:15 SpawnMoarOverlords wrote:
Any mapmaker here ever tried to make MU-specific map work ? Perhaps we could get a tournament open to unusual maps to try it.

You cant balance those kind of maps, if by design it is fitting a certain matchup, if the map is favoring one of the races somehow, the map will be vetoed by the other race, but then comes the problem that its a map that they must play because they now have a more restricted map pool


I'm not sure I understand what you're saying. They can't be balanced? The very point of them is that they would be much more balanced than a non-MU specific map ever can be. Are you just saying that that's difficult to do? Obviously, but so is making a good map in general, and that doesn't stop Blizzard from releasing shitty ones all the time.

What I am saying that you cant have a specific map pool (even with bans) for every MU separately because maps cant be balanced 100%, every map has some sort of feature that will favor a specific race, meaning that players will be forced to play on maps that their race might have a disadvantage playing on. All maps are balanced in mirror because a race cant get an advantage off the map if played against itself unless its a multiple spawn map and a certain spawn can give advantage (I cant find examples, but a position where one takes natural away from the opponent but the other takes it towards the opponent, making it more exposed to drops). So you cant really make specific map pools because maps arent 100% balanced for certain MUs, so they just implemented the ban system that allows players to remove maps they know they have disadvantage.
An Esports fan, playing SC2 and LoL because they are fun. Huge fan of mapmaking, Cloud Kingdom = best map ever made EVER.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28528 Posts
April 27 2014 13:31 GMT
#1982
On April 27 2014 22:30 Xoronius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2014 22:28 Penev wrote:
On April 27 2014 22:26 Xoronius wrote:
On April 27 2014 22:20 Varroth wrote:
On April 27 2014 22:17 Xoronius wrote:
On April 27 2014 22:15 Varroth wrote:
How tall is tod? 6'2? he looks 6'2

Your'e swedish, why don't you use the metric system?



Well since Starcraft is made by americans i thought i should use this instead =P but alright

How tall is tod? 188cm? He looks 188cm.

I don't really know, I guess, we could estimate it by putting him next to Artosis, since I'm fairly sure Artosis is somewhere between 1,9 and 2m.

Artosis and Tasteless are about 185cm they said once during a cast. Well, they said they were 6'1"..

Are you sure? I mean I'm about 186 and Artosis seems to be taller than me. He seems to be bigger than most of the guys around him.

I'm sure they said that yes.
I Protoss winner, could it be?
ne4aJIb
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation3209 Posts
April 27 2014 13:31 GMT
#1983
Is it over?
Bisu,Best,Stork,Jangbi and Flash, Fantasy, Leta, Light and Jaedong, Hydra, Zero, Soulkey assemble in ACE now!
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
April 27 2014 13:31 GMT
#1984
For those who missed a game

+ Show Spoiler [TY vs. MC] +
Game 1
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Game 3

+ Show Spoiler [Ryung vs. Impact] +
Game 1
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Game 3

+ Show Spoiler [Zanster vs. Jaedong] +
Game 1
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+ Show Spoiler [HyuN vs. Snute] +
Game 1
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+ Show Spoiler [INnoVation vs. Welmu] +
Game 1
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+ Show Spoiler [ToD vs. Bunny] +
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 27 2014 13:31 GMT
#1985
On April 27 2014 22:31 pmp10 wrote:
With Life advancing this might go to a protoss-less finals.
Can't recall last time that happened.

Life's ZvP isn't really that strong. There's a decent chance he will lose to StarDust
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Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
April 27 2014 13:32 GMT
#1986
On April 27 2014 22:31 ne4aJIb wrote:
Is it over?

Quarter finals start in 30 min
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
April 27 2014 13:32 GMT
#1987
On April 27 2014 22:31 pmp10 wrote:
With Life advancing this might go to a protoss-less finals.
Can't recall last time that happened.


Scarlett vs Jaedong last year.
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
April 27 2014 13:32 GMT
#1988
On April 27 2014 22:26 Xoronius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2014 22:20 Varroth wrote:
On April 27 2014 22:17 Xoronius wrote:
On April 27 2014 22:15 Varroth wrote:
How tall is tod? 6'2? he looks 6'2

Your'e swedish, why don't you use the metric system?



Well since Starcraft is made by americans i thought i should use this instead =P but alright

How tall is tod? 188cm? He looks 188cm.

I don't really know, I guess, we could estimate it by putting him next to Artosis, since I'm fairly sure Artosis is somewhere between 1,9 and 2m.

I'm 193cm, and I'm pretty sure I'm a lot taller than artosis
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
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ne4aJIb
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation3209 Posts
April 27 2014 13:33 GMT
#1989
On April 27 2014 22:32 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2014 22:31 ne4aJIb wrote:
Is it over?

Quarter finals start in 30 min


thanks!
Bisu,Best,Stork,Jangbi and Flash, Fantasy, Leta, Light and Jaedong, Hydra, Zero, Soulkey assemble in ACE now!
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
April 27 2014 13:33 GMT
#1990
On April 27 2014 22:31 Lorning wrote:
For those who missed a game

+ Show Spoiler [TY vs. MC] +
Game 1
Game 2
Game 3

+ Show Spoiler [Ryung vs. Impact] +
Game 1
Game 2
Game 3

+ Show Spoiler [Zanster vs. Jaedong] +
Game 1
Game 2
Game 3

+ Show Spoiler [HyuN vs. Snute] +
Game 1
Game 2
Game 3

+ Show Spoiler [INnoVation vs. Welmu] +
Game 1
Game 2
Game 3

+ Show Spoiler [ToD vs. Bunny] +
Game 1
Game 2
Game 3

+ Show Spoiler [Leenock vs. Life] +
Game 1
Game 2
Game 3

+ Show Spoiler [jjakji vs. StarDust] +
Game 1
Game 2
Game 3

You are amazing, I would cuddle you for eternity! <3
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
April 27 2014 13:33 GMT
#1991
On April 27 2014 22:31 pmp10 wrote:
With Life advancing this might go to a protoss-less finals.
Can't recall last time that happened.

MC vs StarDust finals into the Internet exploding.
TheFlexN
Profile Joined March 2012
Israel472 Posts
April 27 2014 13:34 GMT
#1992
On April 27 2014 22:31 Lorning wrote:
For those who missed a game

+ Show Spoiler [TY vs. MC] +
Game 1
Game 2
Game 3

+ Show Spoiler [Ryung vs. Impact] +
Game 1
Game 2
Game 3

+ Show Spoiler [Zanster vs. Jaedong] +
Game 1
Game 2
Game 3

+ Show Spoiler [HyuN vs. Snute] +
Game 1
Game 2
Game 3

+ Show Spoiler [INnoVation vs. Welmu] +
Game 1
Game 2
Game 3

+ Show Spoiler [ToD vs. Bunny] +
Game 1
Game 2
Game 3

+ Show Spoiler [Leenock vs. Life] +
Game 1
Game 2
Game 3

+ Show Spoiler [jjakji vs. StarDust] +
Game 1
Game 2
Game 3

Did I already told you that you are a LR god?
An Esports fan, playing SC2 and LoL because they are fun. Huge fan of mapmaking, Cloud Kingdom = best map ever made EVER.
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
April 27 2014 13:34 GMT
#1993
On April 27 2014 22:30 Xoronius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2014 22:28 Penev wrote:
On April 27 2014 22:26 Xoronius wrote:
On April 27 2014 22:20 Varroth wrote:
On April 27 2014 22:17 Xoronius wrote:
On April 27 2014 22:15 Varroth wrote:
How tall is tod? 6'2? he looks 6'2

Your'e swedish, why don't you use the metric system?



Well since Starcraft is made by americans i thought i should use this instead =P but alright

How tall is tod? 188cm? He looks 188cm.

I don't really know, I guess, we could estimate it by putting him next to Artosis, since I'm fairly sure Artosis is somewhere between 1,9 and 2m.

Artosis and Tasteless are about 185cm they said once during a cast. Well, they said they were 6'1"..

Are you sure? I mean I'm about 186 and Artosis seems to be taller than me. He seems to be bigger than most of the guys around him.


Nah no way Artosis is 6'6 (2m)

Him and tasteless are both 6'2 I'm preeeeeeeeeeetty sure
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
Varroth
Profile Joined April 2014
Sweden471 Posts
April 27 2014 13:34 GMT
#1994
So is TLO like inbetween 170-175? And then ToD should be around 190-192 cm right? if Artosis and Tasteless are 185
Top10 favorite players: 1. Jaedong 2. Naniwa 3. Maru 4. ThorZaIN 5. Taeja 6. HerO 7. MC 8. Hyun 9. Soulkey 10. herO
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
April 27 2014 13:34 GMT
#1995
On April 27 2014 22:31 Lorning wrote:
For those who missed a game

+ Show Spoiler [TY vs. MC] +
Game 1
Game 2
Game 3

+ Show Spoiler [Ryung vs. Impact] +
Game 1
Game 2
Game 3

+ Show Spoiler [Zanster vs. Jaedong] +
Game 1
Game 2
Game 3

+ Show Spoiler [HyuN vs. Snute] +
Game 1
Game 2
Game 3

+ Show Spoiler [INnoVation vs. Welmu] +
Game 1
Game 2
Game 3

+ Show Spoiler [ToD vs. Bunny] +
Game 1
Game 2
Game 3

+ Show Spoiler [Leenock vs. Life] +
Game 1
Game 2
Game 3

+ Show Spoiler [jjakji vs. StarDust] +
Game 1
Game 2
Game 3


Your contribution to this thread makes me shed more tears than MKP in 2011
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
April 27 2014 13:34 GMT
#1996
On April 27 2014 22:34 TheFlexN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2014 22:31 Lorning wrote:
For those who missed a game

+ Show Spoiler [TY vs. MC] +
Game 1
Game 2
Game 3

+ Show Spoiler [Ryung vs. Impact] +
Game 1
Game 2
Game 3

+ Show Spoiler [Zanster vs. Jaedong] +
Game 1
Game 2
Game 3

+ Show Spoiler [HyuN vs. Snute] +
Game 1
Game 2
Game 3

+ Show Spoiler [INnoVation vs. Welmu] +
Game 1
Game 2
Game 3

+ Show Spoiler [ToD vs. Bunny] +
Game 1
Game 2
Game 3

+ Show Spoiler [Leenock vs. Life] +
Game 1
Game 2
Game 3

+ Show Spoiler [jjakji vs. StarDust] +
Game 1
Game 2
Game 3

Did I already told you that you are a LR god?

Yes :3
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-27 13:35:01
April 27 2014 13:34 GMT
#1997
Lorning is ten times the LR bonjwa lichter is
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
FuRRie
Profile Joined February 2009
Belgium815 Posts
April 27 2014 13:35 GMT
#1998
Has this been posted yet ?

                      Win    Top 2    Top 4    Top 8    
--------------------------------------------------------
MC 30.01% 27.44% 24.07% 18.48%
INnoVation 24.24% 19.08% 32.57% 24.11%
StarDust 17.70% 10.70% 30.16% 41.44%
Jaedong 10.83% 13.80% 39.55% 35.81%
Life 7.80% 11.71% 21.93% 58.56%
Snute 5.09% 8.50% 22.22% 64.19%
Bunny 3.13% 5.64% 15.34% 75.89%
Impact 1.20% 3.12% 14.16% 81.52%
Median Outcome Bracket
+ Show Spoiler +
          MC 2 ┐ 
├────────── MC 2 ┐
Impact 0 ┘ │
├────────── MC 2 ┐
Jaedong 2 ┐ │ │
├───── Jaedong 1 ┘ │
Snute 1 ┘ │
├─ MC
INnoVation 2 ┐ │
├── INnoVation 2 ┐ │
Bunny 1 ┘ │ │
├── INnoVation 1 ┘
Life 1 ┐ │
├──── StarDust 1 ┘
StarDust 2 ┘

Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
April 27 2014 13:35 GMT
#1999
Ok guys, I give up, I have apperently overestimated Artosis height by quite a lot.
TheFlexN
Profile Joined March 2012
Israel472 Posts
April 27 2014 13:36 GMT
#2000
On April 27 2014 22:34 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2014 22:34 TheFlexN wrote:
On April 27 2014 22:31 Lorning wrote:
For those who missed a game

+ Show Spoiler [TY vs. MC] +
Game 1
Game 2
Game 3

+ Show Spoiler [Ryung vs. Impact] +
Game 1
Game 2
Game 3

+ Show Spoiler [Zanster vs. Jaedong] +
Game 1
Game 2
Game 3

+ Show Spoiler [HyuN vs. Snute] +
Game 1
Game 2
Game 3

+ Show Spoiler [INnoVation vs. Welmu] +
Game 1
Game 2
Game 3

+ Show Spoiler [ToD vs. Bunny] +
Game 1
Game 2
Game 3

+ Show Spoiler [Leenock vs. Life] +
Game 1
Game 2
Game 3

+ Show Spoiler [jjakji vs. StarDust] +
Game 1
Game 2
Game 3

Did I already told you that you are a LR god?

Yes :3

:3
An Esports fan, playing SC2 and LoL because they are fun. Huge fan of mapmaking, Cloud Kingdom = best map ever made EVER.
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