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ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
March 06 2014 10:33 GMT
#1121
On March 06 2014 19:32 Lazzi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 19:31 ssxsilver wrote:
On March 06 2014 19:29 robson1 wrote:
On March 06 2014 19:27 Fusilero wrote:
On March 06 2014 19:27 robson1 wrote:
I love how dear is just as good as 3-4 months ago, but people act like he's an underdog.

Ye dear since joining mouz has really dropped off, he's looking like an average Korean protoss rather than the back to back WCS champion.


No he has not. He had like one bad foreign tournament. And people say he's average all off a sudden.

Err what? He had a rough Assembly and a rough IEM Cologne. He went 5-3 in ro32 so he's not been dominate there either. Just because he owned SK there doesn't mean he hasn't been struggling.

I'd like to have rough assembly too. I mean second place ain't bad.

Yes but 20 - 14. The statement was that he's been just as good as he was 3-4 months ago, but that's not the case. Dear was freakin unstoppable at the end of 2013.
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
March 06 2014 10:33 GMT
#1122
On March 06 2014 19:32 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 19:31 Destructicon wrote:
On March 06 2014 19:31 GumBa wrote:
Is Dear looking more like champ dear or scrub Dear?


It kind of looks like scrub Dear, but for some reason SK isn't really playing at his top level either, so its kind of passable now.

SK will probably make the RO8 anyway, it's how he rolls


He's starting to look a lot like Curious, but... way more powerful.

The Gatekeeper of Semis hahaha.
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Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-06 10:33:58
March 06 2014 10:33 GMT
#1123
Soulkey all of sudden thinks that Hydras with 20% buff on attack speed are the best units in the Zerg arsenal, so he just mass them and... well, die...
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
March 06 2014 10:33 GMT
#1124
On March 06 2014 19:32 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 19:31 ssxsilver wrote:
On March 06 2014 19:29 robson1 wrote:
On March 06 2014 19:27 Fusilero wrote:
On March 06 2014 19:27 robson1 wrote:
I love how dear is just as good as 3-4 months ago, but people act like he's an underdog.

Ye dear since joining mouz has really dropped off, he's looking like an average Korean protoss rather than the back to back WCS champion.


No he has not. He had like one bad foreign tournament. And people say he's average all off a sudden.

Err what? He had a rough Assembly and a rough IEM Cologne. He went 5-3 in ro32 so he's not been dominate there either. Just because he owned SK there doesn't mean he hasn't been struggling.

He also lost twice to foreign zergs in bo3 since joining mouz. 0-2 to Bly and 1-2 to Starbuck

Starbuck drone pull is literally unstoppable though
Glorious SEA doto
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
March 06 2014 10:33 GMT
#1125
On March 06 2014 19:33 liberate71 wrote:
I tried watching House of Cards episode 1, and holy shit. I've never been more bored from a TV show in my life, and I love Kevin Spacey.

40 mins of the 55 min episode and my cbf-meter broke

wat, that show is amazing
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Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
March 06 2014 10:34 GMT
#1126
On March 06 2014 19:33 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 19:32 TheDwf wrote:
On March 06 2014 19:31 stuchiu wrote:
You could have 10 pooled..........................

They never learn.

Only Life is a believer.

Curious
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liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-06 10:35:43
March 06 2014 10:35 GMT
#1127
On March 06 2014 19:33 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 19:33 liberate71 wrote:
I tried watching House of Cards episode 1, and holy shit. I've never been more bored from a TV show in my life, and I love Kevin Spacey.

40 mins of the 55 min episode and my cbf-meter broke

wat, that show is amazing


Hearing things like this is why I wanted to give it a go. But urgh.

It reminded me of when youre a kid, and there are "adult shows"

Except now I'm 28, and I'm thinking "... so who watches THIS show?"
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
FakePseudo
Profile Joined January 2012
Belgium716 Posts
March 06 2014 10:35 GMT
#1128
triple double inc?
I am the 0.0007% /forum/viewpost.php?post_id=17208334|| Big Black Women Vocals Is Like Porn to my Ears ||San Antonio Spurs|Boston Celtics||#1EZToss Hater;
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
March 06 2014 10:35 GMT
#1129
On March 06 2014 19:33 robson1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 19:31 ssxsilver wrote:
On March 06 2014 19:29 robson1 wrote:
On March 06 2014 19:27 Fusilero wrote:
On March 06 2014 19:27 robson1 wrote:
I love how dear is just as good as 3-4 months ago, but people act like he's an underdog.

Ye dear since joining mouz has really dropped off, he's looking like an average Korean protoss rather than the back to back WCS champion.


No he has not. He had like one bad foreign tournament. And people say he's average all off a sudden.

Err what? He had a rough Assembly and a rough IEM Cologne. He went 5-3 in ro32 so he's not been dominate there either. Just because he owned SK there doesn't mean he hasn't been struggling.


Rough assembly. Second place finish. Won his games in Ro32. And got beaten by jjakji who some people consider a pretty good terran at IEM. A little bit of a funk sure, but not a slump at all. The only time he failed to get results when it coutend was at IEM.


Compare his Assembly to his double royal road run. He dropped 3 maps in his royal road run of GSL and season finals. He dropped more maps to Zerg,, Terran or Protoss than he did in his entire GSL/Season FInals run.
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Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
March 06 2014 10:35 GMT
#1130
On March 06 2014 19:33 Qwerty85 wrote:
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On March 06 2014 19:31 Destructicon wrote:
On March 06 2014 19:29 Qwerty85 wrote:
Infestors need a buff against protoss. Even when we saw them, they did absolutely nothing and zerg can't contest with protoss air units.


No, Infestors are supposed to be support casters, they are fine the way they are and there is no way in hell buffing them could be a good idea after all the suffering they caused in WoL.


A buff doesn't imply making them overpowered but they really are weak right now when game gets to late stages.
Even as a terran player and Mvp fanboy I must admit there was no way for Firecake to kill Mvp's fully upgraded BCs.
Same thing happens with late game PvZ when tempests are out.


Infestor is still a support caster, it isn't supposed to be able to kill fully upgraded BCs or Void Rays or Tempest, lets leave the fighting to the actual real fighting units.
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
March 06 2014 10:36 GMT
#1131
On March 06 2014 19:33 playa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 19:31 robson1 wrote:
On March 06 2014 19:30 playa wrote:
Dude... why would you morph all of your corrupters. Trying to throw. I wish people would do that versus me. Lucky.


tbh. 5-6 corruptors would have just insta-died against the voidrays.


You can't just rely on that amount of hydras as anti air. You have to keep some corrupters. What are 13 broodlords going to do? Eventually they're going to have enough to kill that. So much wasted gas. Have to have some free supply for anti air...


yup. You have to rely on corruptors instead of hydras. Corruptors are 150/100 and hydras 100/50, both with 2supply. So at the max it is clear that Corruptors are still better than hydras. Thing is, they also cost more, so he cannot engage like that at that time because he doesn't have as much army if he goes corruptors. So he cannot do that BL timing, but later on BLs are worthless because even more VRs and Tempests just rape them. So he shouldn't go BL at all. But if he doesn't go BL, how does he combat that deathball?
--> SH turtle with Viper/Corruptor harassing the army is the only way to play that lategame
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
March 06 2014 10:36 GMT
#1132
dear going for a two base collossus all in?
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
March 06 2014 10:36 GMT
#1133
On March 06 2014 19:35 liberate71 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 19:33 Lorning wrote:
On March 06 2014 19:33 liberate71 wrote:
I tried watching House of Cards episode 1, and holy shit. I've never been more bored from a TV show in my life, and I love Kevin Spacey.

40 mins of the 55 min episode and my cbf-meter broke

wat, that show is amazing


Hearing things like this is why I wanted to give it a go. But urgh.

It reminded me of when youre a kid, and there are "adult shows"

Except now I'm 28, and I'm thinking "... so who watches THIS show?"


You have to watch Usual Suspects first. And then assume Frank is Keyzer Soze's new identity.
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
March 06 2014 10:37 GMT
#1134
TRIPL DOUBLE KILL THIS 10 POOL BETRAYER
Moderator
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
March 06 2014 10:37 GMT
#1135
does anyone want to LR the next few games/series?
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
sibs
Profile Joined July 2012
635 Posts
March 06 2014 10:37 GMT
#1136
On March 06 2014 19:33 playa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 19:31 robson1 wrote:
On March 06 2014 19:30 playa wrote:
Dude... why would you morph all of your corrupters. Trying to throw. I wish people would do that versus me. Lucky.


tbh. 5-6 corruptors would have just insta-died against the voidrays.


You can't just rely on that amount of hydras as anti air. You have to keep some corrupters. What are 13 broodlords going to do? Eventually they're going to have enough to kill that. So much wasted gas. Have to have some free supply for anti air...


Corruptors would have evaporated to that amount of Voidrays, there really isn't a way to fight that army head on.
robson1
Profile Joined March 2013
3632 Posts
March 06 2014 10:37 GMT
#1137
On March 06 2014 19:35 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 19:33 robson1 wrote:
On March 06 2014 19:31 ssxsilver wrote:
On March 06 2014 19:29 robson1 wrote:
On March 06 2014 19:27 Fusilero wrote:
On March 06 2014 19:27 robson1 wrote:
I love how dear is just as good as 3-4 months ago, but people act like he's an underdog.

Ye dear since joining mouz has really dropped off, he's looking like an average Korean protoss rather than the back to back WCS champion.


No he has not. He had like one bad foreign tournament. And people say he's average all off a sudden.

Err what? He had a rough Assembly and a rough IEM Cologne. He went 5-3 in ro32 so he's not been dominate there either. Just because he owned SK there doesn't mean he hasn't been struggling.


Rough assembly. Second place finish. Won his games in Ro32. And got beaten by jjakji who some people consider a pretty good terran at IEM. A little bit of a funk sure, but not a slump at all. The only time he failed to get results when it coutend was at IEM.


Compare his Assembly to his double royal road run. He dropped 3 maps in his royal road run of GSL and season finals. He dropped more maps to Zerg,, Terran or Protoss than he did in his entire GSL/Season FInals run.


Well yeah I'm not saying that he's unstoppable, but I think his "slump" is way overplayed. He has failed to get results at IEM. So once. That's not enough to call him "average korean toss" for me. I think he was ahead of the meta for the while (especially his PvZ) and now people catched up a little.
Genius is that funny scientist who no one takes seriously until he kills you with a flame throwing trumpet. - stuchiu 2013
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
March 06 2014 10:37 GMT
#1138
wow sick engage by soulkey
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
March 06 2014 10:38 GMT
#1139
On March 06 2014 19:35 Destructicon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 19:33 Qwerty85 wrote:
On March 06 2014 19:31 Destructicon wrote:
On March 06 2014 19:29 Qwerty85 wrote:
Infestors need a buff against protoss. Even when we saw them, they did absolutely nothing and zerg can't contest with protoss air units.


No, Infestors are supposed to be support casters, they are fine the way they are and there is no way in hell buffing them could be a good idea after all the suffering they caused in WoL.


A buff doesn't imply making them overpowered but they really are weak right now when game gets to late stages.
Even as a terran player and Mvp fanboy I must admit there was no way for Firecake to kill Mvp's fully upgraded BCs.
Same thing happens with late game PvZ when tempests are out.


Infestor is still a support caster, it isn't supposed to be able to kill fully upgraded BCs or Void Rays or Tempest, lets leave the fighting to the actual real fighting units.


No it is not. Where does it say it is a support caster? It does not have support spells, it has 3 attack oriented spells. The only support effect is the hold down of fungal, the damage part is not a support skill, nor is IT, nor is NP.
robson1
Profile Joined March 2013
3632 Posts
March 06 2014 10:38 GMT
#1140
DO. NOT. ALLIN. SOULKEY. when will they ever learn.
Genius is that funny scientist who no one takes seriously until he kills you with a flame throwing trumpet. - stuchiu 2013
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