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Poll: Recommend Loser's Match Game 1?★ - Do not see this game no matter what (8) 50% ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4) 25% ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (3) 19% ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (1) 6% ★★★ - Good game (0) 0% 16 total votes Your vote: Recommend Loser's Match Game 1? (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
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On January 16 2014 15:25 Darkhoarse wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2014 15:24 Ben... wrote:On January 16 2014 15:23 Darkhoarse wrote:
To say keen is behind would be a minor understatement. Barracks half done with the core nearing completion. Looks about even to me. + Show Spoiler + God I wish I could proxy rax, cancel, and still be even.
I wish I could have my proxy gates scouted and still win.
Oh wait, that just worked for Myungsik.
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On January 16 2014 15:25 herMan wrote:
Keen is just gonna die to blink. gg
gg before a single stalker was blunk
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Keen looked very good in long TvP in proleague
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37072 Posts
People voting 5 stars: Stop trolling. People really depend on these recommended games polls.
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On January 16 2014 15:27 Ben... wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2014 15:25 Darkhoarse wrote:On January 16 2014 15:24 Ben... wrote:On January 16 2014 15:23 Darkhoarse wrote:
To say keen is behind would be a minor understatement. Barracks half done with the core nearing completion. Looks about even to me. + Show Spoiler + God I wish I could proxy rax, cancel, and still be even. I wish I could have my proxy gates scouted and still win. Oh wait, that just worked for Myungsik.
It's a testament to protoss cheese strength that it can still win even though being scouted immediately.
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On January 16 2014 15:28 Seeker wrote:
People voting 5 stars: Stop trolling. People really depend on these recommended games polls.
Wouldn't it be easier if the OP just put which games were recommended instead of relying on polls?
Dictatorship > democracy.
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On January 16 2014 15:28 herMan wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2014 15:27 Ben... wrote:On January 16 2014 15:25 Darkhoarse wrote:On January 16 2014 15:24 Ben... wrote:On January 16 2014 15:23 Darkhoarse wrote:
To say keen is behind would be a minor understatement. Barracks half done with the core nearing completion. Looks about even to me. + Show Spoiler + God I wish I could proxy rax, cancel, and still be even. I wish I could have my proxy gates scouted and still win. Oh wait, that just worked for Myungsik. It's a testament to protoss cheese strength that it can still win even though being scouted immediately. Or a testament to Symbol's decision making, or lack thereof, in that game.
It should have been a free win.
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On January 16 2014 15:28 herMan wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2014 15:27 Ben... wrote:On January 16 2014 15:25 Darkhoarse wrote:On January 16 2014 15:24 Ben... wrote:On January 16 2014 15:23 Darkhoarse wrote:
To say keen is behind would be a minor understatement. Barracks half done with the core nearing completion. Looks about even to me. + Show Spoiler + God I wish I could proxy rax, cancel, and still be even. I wish I could have my proxy gates scouted and still win. Oh wait, that just worked for Myungsik. It's a testament to protoss cheese strength that it can still win even though being scouted immediately.
Doesn't that make it an all-in, not cheese?
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On January 16 2014 15:30 Ben... wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2014 15:28 herMan wrote:On January 16 2014 15:27 Ben... wrote:On January 16 2014 15:25 Darkhoarse wrote:On January 16 2014 15:24 Ben... wrote:On January 16 2014 15:23 Darkhoarse wrote:
To say keen is behind would be a minor understatement. Barracks half done with the core nearing completion. Looks about even to me. + Show Spoiler + God I wish I could proxy rax, cancel, and still be even. I wish I could have my proxy gates scouted and still win. Oh wait, that just worked for Myungsik. It's a testament to protoss cheese strength that it can still win even though being scouted immediately. Or a testament to Symbol's decision making, or lack thereof, in that game. It should have been a free win.
Would you stop using logic, this is a TL LR thread for crying out loud!
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On January 16 2014 15:30 Ben... wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2014 15:28 herMan wrote:On January 16 2014 15:27 Ben... wrote:On January 16 2014 15:25 Darkhoarse wrote:On January 16 2014 15:24 Ben... wrote:On January 16 2014 15:23 Darkhoarse wrote:
To say keen is behind would be a minor understatement. Barracks half done with the core nearing completion. Looks about even to me. + Show Spoiler + God I wish I could proxy rax, cancel, and still be even. I wish I could have my proxy gates scouted and still win. Oh wait, that just worked for Myungsik. It's a testament to protoss cheese strength that it can still win even though being scouted immediately. Or a testament to Symbol's decision making, or lack thereof, in that game. It should have been a free win.
That game isn't really an argument for Protoss imba. Like Ben says, symbol should've easily had it
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On January 16 2014 15:18 StutteR wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2014 15:15 Grumbels wrote:On January 16 2014 15:12 vthree wrote:On January 16 2014 15:09 Grumbels wrotematch.:On January 16 2014 15:02 ETisME wrote:On January 16 2014 15:01 Grumbels wrote:
Awful casting aside, I hope people will remember this game in the 2014 games of the year overview. It's not often you see a game that challenges the players' decision making in this fashion. how was the casting awful @ @ Constantly saying that the game was over and that players were making bad decisions and that attacks were going to fail, and also silly overhype in the final battle. Did you watch the game? Both players DID make bad calls which allowed the other to get back into the game. It's nice having full map vision being able to call players bad. For me personally constantly drawing attention to mistakes puts me in the wrong mood for enjoying the game. I don't think anyone thinks Symbol or Myungsik are bad. But they did make bad decisions.
I called him out on ONE major mistake. Not getting those spines, even though he had the resources and drones, lost him the game.and there was absolutely no reason to not get them. He had the info he needed and was simply a bit too confident. And I think it should be mentioned. Sorry if you disagree
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On January 16 2014 15:30 Ben... wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2014 15:28 herMan wrote:On January 16 2014 15:27 Ben... wrote:On January 16 2014 15:25 Darkhoarse wrote:On January 16 2014 15:24 Ben... wrote:On January 16 2014 15:23 Darkhoarse wrote:
To say keen is behind would be a minor understatement. Barracks half done with the core nearing completion. Looks about even to me. + Show Spoiler + God I wish I could proxy rax, cancel, and still be even. I wish I could have my proxy gates scouted and still win. Oh wait, that just worked for Myungsik. It's a testament to protoss cheese strength that it can still win even though being scouted immediately. Or a testament to Symbol's decision making, or lack thereof, in that game. It should have been a free win.
It's easy to say that from the outside, though. Decisions aren't made in a vacuum.
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On January 16 2014 15:30 StutteR wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2014 15:28 herMan wrote:On January 16 2014 15:27 Ben... wrote:On January 16 2014 15:25 Darkhoarse wrote:On January 16 2014 15:24 Ben... wrote:On January 16 2014 15:23 Darkhoarse wrote:
To say keen is behind would be a minor understatement. Barracks half done with the core nearing completion. Looks about even to me. + Show Spoiler + God I wish I could proxy rax, cancel, and still be even. I wish I could have my proxy gates scouted and still win. Oh wait, that just worked for Myungsik. It's a testament to protoss cheese strength that it can still win even though being scouted immediately. Doesn't that make it an all-in, not cheese?
The cheesy aspect comes from proxying, like the proxy oracles we see in pvt. And I did not see symbol v myungsik
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On January 16 2014 15:31 Khaldor wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2014 15:18 StutteR wrote:On January 16 2014 15:15 Grumbels wrote:On January 16 2014 15:12 vthree wrote:On January 16 2014 15:09 Grumbels wrotematch.:On January 16 2014 15:02 ETisME wrote:On January 16 2014 15:01 Grumbels wrote:
Awful casting aside, I hope people will remember this game in the 2014 games of the year overview. It's not often you see a game that challenges the players' decision making in this fashion. how was the casting awful @ @ Constantly saying that the game was over and that players were making bad decisions and that attacks were going to fail, and also silly overhype in the final battle. Did you watch the game? Both players DID make bad calls which allowed the other to get back into the game. It's nice having full map vision being able to call players bad. For me personally constantly drawing attention to mistakes puts me in the wrong mood for enjoying the game. I don't think anyone thinks Symbol or Myungsik are bad. But they did make bad decisions. I called him out on ONE major mistake. Not getting those spines, even though he had the resources and drones, lost him the game.and there was absolutely no reason to not get them. He had the info he needed and was simply a bit too confident. And I think it should be mentioned. Sorry if you disagree
You called the game correctly. It's perfectly fine and necessary to mention when players make mistakes.
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On January 16 2014 15:31 Khaldor wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2014 15:18 StutteR wrote:On January 16 2014 15:15 Grumbels wrote:On January 16 2014 15:12 vthree wrote:On January 16 2014 15:09 Grumbels wrotematch.:On January 16 2014 15:02 ETisME wrote:On January 16 2014 15:01 Grumbels wrote:
Awful casting aside, I hope people will remember this game in the 2014 games of the year overview. It's not often you see a game that challenges the players' decision making in this fashion. how was the casting awful @ @ Constantly saying that the game was over and that players were making bad decisions and that attacks were going to fail, and also silly overhype in the final battle. Did you watch the game? Both players DID make bad calls which allowed the other to get back into the game. It's nice having full map vision being able to call players bad. For me personally constantly drawing attention to mistakes puts me in the wrong mood for enjoying the game. I don't think anyone thinks Symbol or Myungsik are bad. But they did make bad decisions. I called him out on ONE major mistake. Not getting those spines, even though he had the resources and drones, lost him the game.and there was absolutely no reason to not get them. He had the info he needed and was simply a bit too confident. And I think it should be mentioned. Sorry if you disagree
Why you gotta be quoting me -_- I'm not the one criticizing you... I like your casting... Also I think making drones in the middle of the battle was a mistake.
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Baiting out a Photon overcharge? Trust says no.
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On January 16 2014 15:32 herMan wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2014 15:30 StutteR wrote:On January 16 2014 15:28 herMan wrote:On January 16 2014 15:27 Ben... wrote:On January 16 2014 15:25 Darkhoarse wrote:On January 16 2014 15:24 Ben... wrote:On January 16 2014 15:23 Darkhoarse wrote:
To say keen is behind would be a minor understatement. Barracks half done with the core nearing completion. Looks about even to me. + Show Spoiler + God I wish I could proxy rax, cancel, and still be even. I wish I could have my proxy gates scouted and still win. Oh wait, that just worked for Myungsik. It's a testament to protoss cheese strength that it can still win even though being scouted immediately. Doesn't that make it an all-in, not cheese? The cheesy aspect comes from proxying, like the proxy oracles we see in pvt. And I did not see symbol v myungsik
Ah. Good. Good. Let the hate flow through you.
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On January 16 2014 15:34 StutteR wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2014 15:31 Khaldor wrote:On January 16 2014 15:18 StutteR wrote:On January 16 2014 15:15 Grumbels wrote:On January 16 2014 15:12 vthree wrote:On January 16 2014 15:09 Grumbels wrotematch.:On January 16 2014 15:02 ETisME wrote:On January 16 2014 15:01 Grumbels wrote:
Awful casting aside, I hope people will remember this game in the 2014 games of the year overview. It's not often you see a game that challenges the players' decision making in this fashion. how was the casting awful @ @ Constantly saying that the game was over and that players were making bad decisions and that attacks were going to fail, and also silly overhype in the final battle. Did you watch the game? Both players DID make bad calls which allowed the other to get back into the game. It's nice having full map vision being able to call players bad. For me personally constantly drawing attention to mistakes puts me in the wrong mood for enjoying the game. I don't think anyone thinks Symbol or Myungsik are bad. But they did make bad decisions. I called him out on ONE major mistake. Not getting those spines, even though he had the resources and drones, lost him the game.and there was absolutely no reason to not get them. He had the info he needed and was simply a bit too confident. And I think it should be mentioned. Sorry if you disagree Why you gotta be quoting me -_- I'm not the one criticizing you... I like your casting... Also I think making drones in the middle of the battle was a mistake.
You're on Khaldors list. Watch out for bald buff Germans.
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On January 16 2014 15:32 Darkhoarse wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2014 15:31 Khaldor wrote:On January 16 2014 15:18 StutteR wrote:On January 16 2014 15:15 Grumbels wrote:On January 16 2014 15:12 vthree wrote:On January 16 2014 15:09 Grumbels wrotematch.:On January 16 2014 15:02 ETisME wrote:On January 16 2014 15:01 Grumbels wrote:
Awful casting aside, I hope people will remember this game in the 2014 games of the year overview. It's not often you see a game that challenges the players' decision making in this fashion. how was the casting awful @ @ Constantly saying that the game was over and that players were making bad decisions and that attacks were going to fail, and also silly overhype in the final battle. Did you watch the game? Both players DID make bad calls which allowed the other to get back into the game. It's nice having full map vision being able to call players bad. For me personally constantly drawing attention to mistakes puts me in the wrong mood for enjoying the game. I don't think anyone thinks Symbol or Myungsik are bad. But they did make bad decisions. I called him out on ONE major mistake. Not getting those spines, even though he had the resources and drones, lost him the game.and there was absolutely no reason to not get them. He had the info he needed and was simply a bit too confident. And I think it should be mentioned. Sorry if you disagree You called the game correctly. It's perfectly fine and necessary to mention when players make mistakes.
I remember Khaldor saying that Symbol had an overlord and zergling see that there was no expansion when switching to Symbol's vision clearly showed that Symbol didn't see the cancel. Other than that he called it correctly, and there were other clues for Symbol to build spines.
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