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On January 12 2014 04:53 Waise wrote:
sc2 is the only competitive scene (video game or otherwise) i know of where new names working their way up through qualifiers and winning for the first time are treated like unworthy garbage who aren't worth watching just because they aren't well known yet. lol
Unfortunately this is exactly what is actually happening, people (even players) cry balance but a nice chunk of that is because they don't know who these players are.
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On January 12 2014 04:57 NovaMB wrote:He didnt have enough energy
Didn't he use two time warps?
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On January 12 2014 04:59 Darkhoarse wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2014 04:58 BlackCompany wrote:On January 12 2014 04:56 Darkhoarse wrote:On January 12 2014 04:53 Waise wrote:
sc2 is the only competitive scene (video game or otherwise) i know of where new names working their way up through qualifiers and winning for the first time are treated like unworthy garbage who aren't worth watching just because they aren't well known yet. lol I think most people aren't treating them like unworthy garbage. I thought so aswell, a lot of people were quite happy Marinelord/Lambo etc made it this far.. feeling sad that for example Marinelord lost doesnt mean we hate his opponent.. Yeah I mean I'm sad some of their accomplishments are being belittled because they're protoss, but I don't think that's a majority.
Well based on how we treated the so-called "patchzergs", you're wrong.
I still think it's one of the biggest travesties of 2012.
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On January 12 2014 04:59 Xoronius wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2014 04:57 Aeromi wrote:
MarineLorD stats : 3 qualifiers, one RO16 and two RO8. 13 wins, 5 defeats with 4 against Protoss...
So, what you are saying is: KTMarineLorD incoming?
More about #protossed but KTMarineLorD fits him well too.
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On January 12 2014 05:00 Larkin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2014 04:57 NovaMB wrote:On January 12 2014 04:57 Larkin wrote:
Why didn't Fraer recall? He didnt have enough energy Didn't he use two time warps?
I guess that would explain why he didnt lol. Guess its either bad decision making or a misclick. Maybe he didnt know about the Vipers
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On January 12 2014 04:59 Darkhoarse wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2014 04:58 BlackCompany wrote:On January 12 2014 04:56 Darkhoarse wrote:On January 12 2014 04:53 Waise wrote:
sc2 is the only competitive scene (video game or otherwise) i know of where new names working their way up through qualifiers and winning for the first time are treated like unworthy garbage who aren't worth watching just because they aren't well known yet. lol I think most people aren't treating them like unworthy garbage. I thought so aswell, a lot of people were quite happy Marinelord/Lambo etc made it this far.. feeling sad that for example Marinelord lost doesnt mean we hate his opponent.. Yeah I mean I'm sad some of their accomplishments are being belittled because they're protoss, but I don't think that's a majority.
it's not a protoss thing or a wcs eu thing, it's a sc2 thing. sc2 fans want to watch infinite amounts of content (qualifiers, minor events, etc.) but they expect every player in all of them to be wcs champion level. 90% of the people watching will never make master league, but they'll still watch a low master game and call it "wood league". i wasn't singling out anyone in this thread
also i didn't say anything about a majority, but toxic attitudes tend to be louder than reasonable ones
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On January 12 2014 04:51 NovaMB wrote:Btw messioso/Shawn any idea how  LucifroN will be replaced?
I asked them earlier on on twitter:
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Also that viper play by Lambo was sick.
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On January 12 2014 05:02 Waise wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2014 04:59 Darkhoarse wrote:On January 12 2014 04:58 BlackCompany wrote:On January 12 2014 04:56 Darkhoarse wrote:On January 12 2014 04:53 Waise wrote:
sc2 is the only competitive scene (video game or otherwise) i know of where new names working their way up through qualifiers and winning for the first time are treated like unworthy garbage who aren't worth watching just because they aren't well known yet. lol I think most people aren't treating them like unworthy garbage. I thought so aswell, a lot of people were quite happy Marinelord/Lambo etc made it this far.. feeling sad that for example Marinelord lost doesnt mean we hate his opponent.. Yeah I mean I'm sad some of their accomplishments are being belittled because they're protoss, but I don't think that's a majority. it's not a protoss thing or a wcs eu thing, it's a sc2 thing.
What it really is is a fanboy thing.
People are watching for names they are familiar with not the game itself.
You could throw in a top tier player on a smurf in here and he would be shat on all the way to the finals.
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On January 12 2014 05:00 Nebuchad wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2014 04:59 Darkhoarse wrote:On January 12 2014 04:58 BlackCompany wrote:On January 12 2014 04:56 Darkhoarse wrote:On January 12 2014 04:53 Waise wrote:
sc2 is the only competitive scene (video game or otherwise) i know of where new names working their way up through qualifiers and winning for the first time are treated like unworthy garbage who aren't worth watching just because they aren't well known yet. lol I think most people aren't treating them like unworthy garbage. I thought so aswell, a lot of people were quite happy Marinelord/Lambo etc made it this far.. feeling sad that for example Marinelord lost doesnt mean we hate his opponent.. Yeah I mean I'm sad some of their accomplishments are being belittled because they're protoss, but I don't think that's a majority. Well based on how we treated the so-called "patchzergs", you're wrong. I still think it's one of the biggest travesties of 2012.
Patchzerg was to a minor extend justified, but in my view there is no reason to start a patchtoss thing. #protossed is more of a joke for me because of how suddenly they can turn fights arround  . I dont think the Protoss players today qualified because they played Protoss but rather because they played good.
Some people just cannot win vs a certain race, see Innovations TvT, MMAs PvT. Then they work hard on that matchup and become better..
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Sweden7978 Posts
On January 12 2014 05:00 Nebuchad wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2014 04:59 Darkhoarse wrote:On January 12 2014 04:58 BlackCompany wrote:On January 12 2014 04:56 Darkhoarse wrote:On January 12 2014 04:53 Waise wrote:
sc2 is the only competitive scene (video game or otherwise) i know of where new names working their way up through qualifiers and winning for the first time are treated like unworthy garbage who aren't worth watching just because they aren't well known yet. lol I think most people aren't treating them like unworthy garbage. I thought so aswell, a lot of people were quite happy Marinelord/Lambo etc made it this far.. feeling sad that for example Marinelord lost doesnt mean we hate his opponent.. Yeah I mean I'm sad some of their accomplishments are being belittled because they're protoss, but I don't think that's a majority. Well based on how we treated the so-called "patchzergs", you're wrong. I still think it's one of the biggest travesties of 2012.
Scarlett and Stephano were patchzergs according to TL 2012-2013. It seems somewhat comical in retrospect.
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On January 12 2014 05:07 Squat wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2014 05:00 Nebuchad wrote:On January 12 2014 04:59 Darkhoarse wrote:On January 12 2014 04:58 BlackCompany wrote:On January 12 2014 04:56 Darkhoarse wrote:On January 12 2014 04:53 Waise wrote:
sc2 is the only competitive scene (video game or otherwise) i know of where new names working their way up through qualifiers and winning for the first time are treated like unworthy garbage who aren't worth watching just because they aren't well known yet. lol I think most people aren't treating them like unworthy garbage. I thought so aswell, a lot of people were quite happy Marinelord/Lambo etc made it this far.. feeling sad that for example Marinelord lost doesnt mean we hate his opponent.. Yeah I mean I'm sad some of their accomplishments are being belittled because they're protoss, but I don't think that's a majority. Well based on how we treated the so-called "patchzergs", you're wrong. I still think it's one of the biggest travesties of 2012. Scarlett and Stephano were patchzergs according to TL 2012-2013. It seems somewhat comical in retrospect.
As well as Nerchio and Life and probably everyone else.
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Sweden7978 Posts
Fraer needs to whip the guy pedaling the bicycle in his basement some more, his interwebs is failing.
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Wow poor Lambo. This must be insanely frustrating.
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On January 12 2014 05:06 BlackCompany wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2014 05:00 Nebuchad wrote:On January 12 2014 04:59 Darkhoarse wrote:On January 12 2014 04:58 BlackCompany wrote:On January 12 2014 04:56 Darkhoarse wrote:On January 12 2014 04:53 Waise wrote:
sc2 is the only competitive scene (video game or otherwise) i know of where new names working their way up through qualifiers and winning for the first time are treated like unworthy garbage who aren't worth watching just because they aren't well known yet. lol I think most people aren't treating them like unworthy garbage. I thought so aswell, a lot of people were quite happy Marinelord/Lambo etc made it this far.. feeling sad that for example Marinelord lost doesnt mean we hate his opponent.. Yeah I mean I'm sad some of their accomplishments are being belittled because they're protoss, but I don't think that's a majority. Well based on how we treated the so-called "patchzergs", you're wrong. I still think it's one of the biggest travesties of 2012. Patchzerg was to a minor extend justified
It was perfectly justified.
Accomplishments of many players were owed purely to Blizzards refusal to do their job and balancing the game.
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On January 12 2014 05:11 pmp10 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2014 05:06 BlackCompany wrote:On January 12 2014 05:00 Nebuchad wrote:On January 12 2014 04:59 Darkhoarse wrote:On January 12 2014 04:58 BlackCompany wrote:On January 12 2014 04:56 Darkhoarse wrote:On January 12 2014 04:53 Waise wrote:
sc2 is the only competitive scene (video game or otherwise) i know of where new names working their way up through qualifiers and winning for the first time are treated like unworthy garbage who aren't worth watching just because they aren't well known yet. lol I think most people aren't treating them like unworthy garbage. I thought so aswell, a lot of people were quite happy Marinelord/Lambo etc made it this far.. feeling sad that for example Marinelord lost doesnt mean we hate his opponent.. Yeah I mean I'm sad some of their accomplishments are being belittled because they're protoss, but I don't think that's a majority. Well based on how we treated the so-called "patchzergs", you're wrong. I still think it's one of the biggest travesties of 2012. Patchzerg was to a minor extend justified It was perfectly justified. Accomplishments of many players were owed purely to Blizzards refusal to do their job and balancing the game.
So, why are these players all still around, when they were just "patchzergs"?
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On January 12 2014 05:11 pmp10 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2014 05:06 BlackCompany wrote:On January 12 2014 05:00 Nebuchad wrote:On January 12 2014 04:59 Darkhoarse wrote:On January 12 2014 04:58 BlackCompany wrote:On January 12 2014 04:56 Darkhoarse wrote:On January 12 2014 04:53 Waise wrote:
sc2 is the only competitive scene (video game or otherwise) i know of where new names working their way up through qualifiers and winning for the first time are treated like unworthy garbage who aren't worth watching just because they aren't well known yet. lol I think most people aren't treating them like unworthy garbage. I thought so aswell, a lot of people were quite happy Marinelord/Lambo etc made it this far.. feeling sad that for example Marinelord lost doesnt mean we hate his opponent.. Yeah I mean I'm sad some of their accomplishments are being belittled because they're protoss, but I don't think that's a majority. Well based on how we treated the so-called "patchzergs", you're wrong. I still think it's one of the biggest travesties of 2012. Patchzerg was to a minor extend justified It was perfectly justified. Accomplishments of many players were owed purely to Blizzards refusal to do their job and balancing the game.
And how is that a justification?
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On January 12 2014 05:11 pmp10 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2014 05:06 BlackCompany wrote:On January 12 2014 05:00 Nebuchad wrote:On January 12 2014 04:59 Darkhoarse wrote:On January 12 2014 04:58 BlackCompany wrote:On January 12 2014 04:56 Darkhoarse wrote:On January 12 2014 04:53 Waise wrote:
sc2 is the only competitive scene (video game or otherwise) i know of where new names working their way up through qualifiers and winning for the first time are treated like unworthy garbage who aren't worth watching just because they aren't well known yet. lol I think most people aren't treating them like unworthy garbage. I thought so aswell, a lot of people were quite happy Marinelord/Lambo etc made it this far.. feeling sad that for example Marinelord lost doesnt mean we hate his opponent.. Yeah I mean I'm sad some of their accomplishments are being belittled because they're protoss, but I don't think that's a majority. Well based on how we treated the so-called "patchzergs", you're wrong. I still think it's one of the biggest travesties of 2012. Patchzerg was to a minor extend justified It was perfectly justified. Accomplishments of many players were owed purely to Blizzards refusal to do their job and balancing the game.
Well every Zerg that ever won a series was called a patch-zerg. People who went muta/ling/bane were patch-zergs. Aggressive ling players were patch-zergs.
yes there were some people who just turtle on 3 bases, get BL/Infestor and win. But that hasnt been done by everone
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Russian Federation210 Posts
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On January 12 2014 05:13 Xoronius wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2014 05:11 pmp10 wrote:On January 12 2014 05:06 BlackCompany wrote:On January 12 2014 05:00 Nebuchad wrote:On January 12 2014 04:59 Darkhoarse wrote:On January 12 2014 04:58 BlackCompany wrote:On January 12 2014 04:56 Darkhoarse wrote:On January 12 2014 04:53 Waise wrote:
sc2 is the only competitive scene (video game or otherwise) i know of where new names working their way up through qualifiers and winning for the first time are treated like unworthy garbage who aren't worth watching just because they aren't well known yet. lol I think most people aren't treating them like unworthy garbage. I thought so aswell, a lot of people were quite happy Marinelord/Lambo etc made it this far.. feeling sad that for example Marinelord lost doesnt mean we hate his opponent.. Yeah I mean I'm sad some of their accomplishments are being belittled because they're protoss, but I don't think that's a majority. Well based on how we treated the so-called "patchzergs", you're wrong. I still think it's one of the biggest travesties of 2012. Patchzerg was to a minor extend justified It was perfectly justified. Accomplishments of many players were owed purely to Blizzards refusal to do their job and balancing the game. So, why are these players all still around, when they were just "patchzergs"?
"Those" players may be around but their patch-zerg era results are not.
And no - I don't mean Stephano/Scarlett/Nerchio.
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