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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
December 14 2013 23:02 GMT
#1021
On December 15 2013 08:01 Firlefanz wrote:
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On December 15 2013 07:57 Hider wrote:
On December 15 2013 07:56 BakedButters wrote:
On December 15 2013 07:54 TheDwf wrote:
On December 15 2013 07:53 TotalBiscuit wrote:
that was sad

It's unfortunate, but I'm fairly sure Ryung would have won pre-patch.


No pre-patch she was giving all Terrans a run for their money, including Bomber. She said she barely lost to any Koreans T when she was in Korea


Yeh im not sure. Prepatch mass Mutalisks was also ridiclously strong, and thus I was very surprised that Blizzard didn't nerf Mutalisks along with the Mine-nerf, becasue the current "meta" we are seeing now was very much expected.

I'm not up to date with the current ZvP, but nerfing mutas would influence ZvP and ZvZ way too much imo. As a terran player i would handle this situation with a slight buff to the Thor anti-air attack, because i really can't see a situation where this would break the any matchup (maybe Thors become a bit more useful against skyterran/toss).

Very rare that Thors are built against Skytoss, just mainly add in a few for mech compositions. That probably wouldn't be a gamebreaking change as long as it was small.
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
December 14 2013 23:02 GMT
#1022
On December 15 2013 08:01 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Acer just need a really strong protoss player now

Hitman?
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10146 Posts
December 14 2013 23:03 GMT
#1023
Grubby speaking on third person. He must be really tired already.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
December 14 2013 23:03 GMT
#1024
On December 15 2013 08:02 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2013 08:01 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Acer just need a really strong protoss player now

Hitman?


Dear
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
December 14 2013 23:03 GMT
#1025
On December 15 2013 07:57 Hider wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2013 07:56 BakedButters wrote:
On December 15 2013 07:54 TheDwf wrote:
On December 15 2013 07:53 TotalBiscuit wrote:
that was sad

It's unfortunate, but I'm fairly sure Ryung would have won pre-patch.


No pre-patch she was giving all Terrans a run for their money, including Bomber. She said she barely lost to any Koreans T when she was in Korea


Yeh im not sure. Prepatch mass Mutalisks was also ridiclously strong, and thus I was very surprised that Blizzard didn't nerf Mutalisks along with the Mine-nerf, becasue the current "meta" we are seeing now was very much expected.

Not sure about what? She was beating Korean terrans per patch, there is nothing to be sure or unsure about, it happened.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
December 14 2013 23:03 GMT
#1026
On December 15 2013 08:03 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2013 08:02 Darkhoarse wrote:
On December 15 2013 08:01 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Acer just need a really strong protoss player now

Hitman?


Dear

Does Acer have that much cash?
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
December 14 2013 23:03 GMT
#1027
On December 15 2013 08:01 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Acer just need a really strong protoss player now


Them tosses are not welcome to the team. So racist.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
December 14 2013 23:04 GMT
#1028
lol teabag throwing
Bellygareth
Profile Joined October 2010
France512 Posts
December 14 2013 23:04 GMT
#1029
On December 15 2013 08:03 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2013 08:02 Darkhoarse wrote:
On December 15 2013 08:01 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Acer just need a really strong protoss player now

Hitman?


Dear


I hear OZ is free!
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
December 14 2013 23:04 GMT
#1030
On December 15 2013 08:03 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2013 08:03 Bagration wrote:
On December 15 2013 08:02 Darkhoarse wrote:
On December 15 2013 08:01 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Acer just need a really strong protoss player now

Hitman?


Dear

Does Acer have that much cash?

Not sure if serious.
Refer to my post.
-niL
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada1131 Posts
December 14 2013 23:05 GMT
#1031
On December 15 2013 08:03 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2013 08:02 Darkhoarse wrote:
On December 15 2013 08:01 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Acer just need a really strong protoss player now

Hitman?


Dear

If that happens they will be the strongest team both inside and outside of Korea.
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10146 Posts
December 14 2013 23:05 GMT
#1032
So it seems that MMA is better at teabagging.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
December 14 2013 23:05 GMT
#1033
On December 15 2013 08:03 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2013 08:03 Bagration wrote:
On December 15 2013 08:02 Darkhoarse wrote:
On December 15 2013 08:01 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Acer just need a really strong protoss player now

Hitman?


Dear

Does Acer have that much cash?


Acer does. Acer eSport might not. But then again, who know? I didn't expect them to pick up Innovation either
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
December 14 2013 23:05 GMT
#1034
On December 15 2013 08:04 Bellygareth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2013 08:03 Bagration wrote:
On December 15 2013 08:02 Darkhoarse wrote:
On December 15 2013 08:01 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Acer just need a really strong protoss player now

Hitman?


Dear


I hear OZ is free!


If you think that, Oz will challenge you and beat you!
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XtreMe_au
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia412 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-14 23:06:18
December 14 2013 23:05 GMT
#1035
Acer please get Dear and join Proleaguerrrr
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
December 14 2013 23:05 GMT
#1036
On December 15 2013 08:05 -niL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2013 08:03 Bagration wrote:
On December 15 2013 08:02 Darkhoarse wrote:
On December 15 2013 08:01 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Acer just need a really strong protoss player now

Hitman?


Dear

If that happens they will be the strongest team both inside and outside of Korea.

SKT maybe.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
December 14 2013 23:05 GMT
#1037
On December 15 2013 08:00 Zenbrez wrote:
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On December 15 2013 07:57 Qwerty85 wrote:
On December 15 2013 07:52 StutteR wrote:
Scarlett is INSANE


At abusing mutas. Yes. Her whole TvZ resolves around getting 40 mutalisks and with the health regen and speed buff, there is no good way to handle them. Thor shots are not nearly as frightening, marines can't catch them. They buy infinite amount of time, they can challenge drops directly without even using lings and no amount of turrets stop them from harassing all over the map.

Don't get me wrong, she is good but mutas play a huge role in her wins. Ryung cleared creep like a boss, denied her 3rd a couple of times but mutas saved the day.

And? It's not easy, otherwise everybody would be that good at the matchup.


Well that is typical over generalization. I never said it is easy in a sense everyone can do it, but it is easier to harass with mutas than defend against them, similar to how it is easier to drop against slower zerg army like ultralisk or broodlord based army than defend those drops. Yes you must be good player to use them constantly but what I am saying is that there is no good response to mutas since the WM nerf.

Marines dont stop them unless mutas fly over 20 marines, thors can't remove them from a fight for a longer period of time, turrets don't scare them away anymore and mines do nothing when mutas are paired with overseers.



imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
December 14 2013 23:06 GMT
#1038
On December 15 2013 08:05 -niL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2013 08:03 Bagration wrote:
On December 15 2013 08:02 Darkhoarse wrote:
On December 15 2013 08:01 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Acer just need a really strong protoss player now

Hitman?


Dear

If that happens they will be the strongest team both inside and outside of Korea.


how can you say that with a SKT T1 tag lol.
Zest fanboy.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
December 14 2013 23:06 GMT
#1039
On December 15 2013 08:04 Zenbrez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2013 08:03 Darkhoarse wrote:
On December 15 2013 08:03 Bagration wrote:
On December 15 2013 08:02 Darkhoarse wrote:
On December 15 2013 08:01 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Acer just need a really strong protoss player now

Hitman?


Dear

Does Acer have that much cash?

Not sure if serious.

Not sure what you mean.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
December 14 2013 23:06 GMT
#1040
Lol, gratz to MMA for getting to the semifinals of the teabag throwing tournament!
jjakji fan
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