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On December 07 2013 09:10 StarVe wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2013 09:03 Xoronius wrote:On December 07 2013 08:59 Yorkie wrote:On December 07 2013 08:56 Xoronius wrote:On December 07 2013 08:55 Yorkie wrote:On December 07 2013 08:53 Squat wrote:On December 07 2013 08:51 Yorkie wrote:On December 07 2013 08:44 ImperialFist wrote:On December 07 2013 08:43 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
If Elfi is the low APM king of P, and Goody is the low APM king of terran, who is the foreign zerg equivalent? I am not sure you can have low apm with zerg, it would actually be difficult. I think that Lowely plays at sub-200 APM iirc And we can see the results that have yielded. I can't really see anything sub 200 APM working in TvZ vs someone who knows how to drop. Lowely has achieved almost the same amount of success as Goody though. (Goody won $16,000 Lowely won $12,000) so I wouldn't say he hasn't had success. GoOdy won 24k though: http://aligulac.com/players/193-GoOdy/earnings/ Hmm I guess SC2 earnings has failed me. I'm assuming the rest of the money must come from small weekly tournaments and such. Trying to decide if it's worth it to research but I know Lowely has taken games and even series' off of top players. He doesn't spam and plays at the bare minimum (almost all of his APM is effective). I'm not saying he's this incredible top foreigner or that faster play wouldn't help him I was just pointing out that he is the closest thing to a zerg equivalent to Goody and Elfi. Yeah, sc2earnings gives you a general idea, but it ignores a lot of small tournies, so that players often participating in them (GoOdy, Nerchio, etc.) are losing a lot of money there (>10k for Nerchio). I´d recommned aligulac for tatistics regarding money. But you are right, Lowely has had his successes in the past, I remember him eliminating Yonghwa and MKP at WCG 2012 and he also knocked out Gumiho in some RSL, IIRC. In RSL 2 he beat Gumiho in the 3rd place match and in the next season he beat Naniwa, Oz, Bly, VortiX and MMA in consecutive Bo5s.
BOOM knowledge bombs
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You and me baby ain't nothin but mammals so let's do it like they do on the discovery channel
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Grubby best casting, best analyzing, best music
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On December 07 2013 09:10 Hypertension wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2013 09:09 Boucot wrote:
The bottom bracket is the half bracket of death. It is not like Scarlett, Stardust and Life make the top bracket easy to live through.
Well, the way the playoff bracket looks, it could be San's big chance if he can just fight through to face Life.
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Scarlett advancing means no complaints of her losing due to being tired due to tournament delays! :D In all seriousness though she played extremely well
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For the love of god (elfi) I don't care who wins let's just make this quick. I've been doing this for 12 hours.
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khaldor looks like he is about to kill some nerds
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On December 07 2013 09:14 Darkhoarse wrote:
For the love of god (elfi) I don't care who wins let's just make this quick. I've been doing this for 12 hours.
Yeah you've been active in this topic from the start, dat passion is much appreciated <3
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On December 07 2013 09:15 Neemi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2013 09:14 Darkhoarse wrote:
For the love of god (elfi) I don't care who wins let's just make this quick. I've been doing this for 12 hours. Yeah you've been active in this topic from the start, dat passion is much appreciated <3
Because I have to update the OP and I refuse to be silent for the whole time while I do it 
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Talk into the microphone, Welmu. I can barely hear you.
Or just turn it on.
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On December 07 2013 09:10 Hypertension wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2013 09:09 Boucot wrote:
The bottom bracket is the half bracket of death. It is not like Scarlett, Stardust and Life make the top bracket easy to live through.
Of course not but I don't see Life having a very hard time until the finals compared to what it would have been if he was in the other one.
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On December 07 2013 09:11 Yorkie wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2013 09:10 StarVe wrote:On December 07 2013 09:03 Xoronius wrote:On December 07 2013 08:59 Yorkie wrote:On December 07 2013 08:56 Xoronius wrote:On December 07 2013 08:55 Yorkie wrote:On December 07 2013 08:53 Squat wrote:On December 07 2013 08:51 Yorkie wrote:On December 07 2013 08:44 ImperialFist wrote:On December 07 2013 08:43 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
If Elfi is the low APM king of P, and Goody is the low APM king of terran, who is the foreign zerg equivalent? I am not sure you can have low apm with zerg, it would actually be difficult. I think that Lowely plays at sub-200 APM iirc And we can see the results that have yielded. I can't really see anything sub 200 APM working in TvZ vs someone who knows how to drop. Lowely has achieved almost the same amount of success as Goody though. (Goody won $16,000 Lowely won $12,000) so I wouldn't say he hasn't had success. GoOdy won 24k though: http://aligulac.com/players/193-GoOdy/earnings/ Hmm I guess SC2 earnings has failed me. I'm assuming the rest of the money must come from small weekly tournaments and such. Trying to decide if it's worth it to research but I know Lowely has taken games and even series' off of top players. He doesn't spam and plays at the bare minimum (almost all of his APM is effective). I'm not saying he's this incredible top foreigner or that faster play wouldn't help him I was just pointing out that he is the closest thing to a zerg equivalent to Goody and Elfi. Yeah, sc2earnings gives you a general idea, but it ignores a lot of small tournies, so that players often participating in them (GoOdy, Nerchio, etc.) are losing a lot of money there (>10k for Nerchio). I´d recommned aligulac for tatistics regarding money. But you are right, Lowely has had his successes in the past, I remember him eliminating Yonghwa and MKP at WCG 2012 and he also knocked out Gumiho in some RSL, IIRC. In RSL 2 he beat Gumiho in the 3rd place match and in the next season he beat Naniwa, Oz, Bly, VortiX and MMA in consecutive Bo5s. BOOM knowledge bombs
I think Lowely was actually (and surprisingly) quite good when WoL ended and he played it longer than anyone else in the pro scene, I think, so he ended up quite behind when others had already switched to the beta.
You can say what you want about the balance at that stage, but just objectively looking at results, I think one of the most unfair things of WCS Season 1 was the fact that Lowely didn't get a seed while others who hadn't done jackshit in a while still got a spot.
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Welmu is making me giggle hysterically, in a good way
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Money scout by jjakji. I hope he mops the floor with elfi.
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On December 07 2013 09:17 StarVe wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2013 09:11 Yorkie wrote:On December 07 2013 09:10 StarVe wrote:On December 07 2013 09:03 Xoronius wrote:On December 07 2013 08:59 Yorkie wrote:On December 07 2013 08:56 Xoronius wrote:On December 07 2013 08:55 Yorkie wrote:On December 07 2013 08:53 Squat wrote:On December 07 2013 08:51 Yorkie wrote:On December 07 2013 08:44 ImperialFist wrote:
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I am not sure you can have low apm with zerg, it would actually be difficult. I think that Lowely plays at sub-200 APM iirc And we can see the results that have yielded. I can't really see anything sub 200 APM working in TvZ vs someone who knows how to drop. Lowely has achieved almost the same amount of success as Goody though. (Goody won $16,000 Lowely won $12,000) so I wouldn't say he hasn't had success. GoOdy won 24k though: http://aligulac.com/players/193-GoOdy/earnings/ Hmm I guess SC2 earnings has failed me. I'm assuming the rest of the money must come from small weekly tournaments and such. Trying to decide if it's worth it to research but I know Lowely has taken games and even series' off of top players. He doesn't spam and plays at the bare minimum (almost all of his APM is effective). I'm not saying he's this incredible top foreigner or that faster play wouldn't help him I was just pointing out that he is the closest thing to a zerg equivalent to Goody and Elfi. Yeah, sc2earnings gives you a general idea, but it ignores a lot of small tournies, so that players often participating in them (GoOdy, Nerchio, etc.) are losing a lot of money there (>10k for Nerchio). I´d recommned aligulac for tatistics regarding money. But you are right, Lowely has had his successes in the past, I remember him eliminating Yonghwa and MKP at WCG 2012 and he also knocked out Gumiho in some RSL, IIRC. In RSL 2 he beat Gumiho in the 3rd place match and in the next season he beat Naniwa, Oz, Bly, VortiX and MMA in consecutive Bo5s. BOOM knowledge bombs You can say what you want about the balance at that stage, but just objectively looking at results, I think one of the most unfair things of WCS Season 1 was the fact that Lowely didn't get a seed while others who hadn't done jackshit in a while still got a spot.
Yeah most people who were knowledgeable were quite perplexed by that.
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Omg I can't listen to Welmu.
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GODS WORKS WERE MEANT TO BE SEEN, ALL ACCORDING TO PLAN
#elfiisgod
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