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Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
October 25 2013 23:25 GMT
#3481
On October 26 2013 08:23 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 08:22 mememolly wrote:
On October 26 2013 08:21 Assirra wrote:
Forcefields are so frustrating to watch.


yeah, easily the worst thing about this game and unnerfable unless you want to completely break the game


But you have to admit that an engagement like that was beautiful. Not anyone can pull that off


well once you are in that position the forcefields are very obvious and can really only be put where they need to be. The skill was more in the way duckdeok knew exactly what he needed to do to win and what kind of fight he needed to take.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
October 25 2013 23:26 GMT
#3482
The way Byul played that out was infuriating honestly. The engage was dreadful and he hit a horrible supply block just before the fight. duckdeok didn't win that one, Byul simply butchered that into a loss that should never have happened.
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
October 25 2013 23:26 GMT
#3483
On October 26 2013 08:24 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 08:23 Weavel wrote:
On October 26 2013 08:22 stuchiu wrote:
On October 26 2013 08:21 Weavel wrote:
On October 26 2013 08:21 SoSexy wrote:
Gretorp has NO IDEA at all when predicting battles. NO IDEA.
Much like day9 and mr.bitter. Sad but true.


Tod, Grubby... SAVE US!
I'd actually like if idra got some more casting jobs. He was really good at Asus rog.


Me too. He mentioned that he picked a bad time to retire because a lot of casting positions for upcoming tournaments at the time had been filled, but it's been nearly 5 months and I believe he's only really casted ASUS

Yeah... I really wonder what's going on with him not getting additional work. (Unless he's turning things down)
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
October 25 2013 23:26 GMT
#3484
On October 26 2013 08:23 Knorre wrote:
What would have happened if Byul burrowed his units?

duckdeok had an observer.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
October 25 2013 23:26 GMT
#3485
On October 26 2013 08:19 unigolyn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 08:16 andrewlt wrote:
On October 26 2013 08:14 unigolyn wrote:
On October 26 2013 08:14 andrewlt wrote:
On October 26 2013 08:08 unigolyn wrote:
On October 26 2013 08:07 andrewlt wrote:
On October 26 2013 08:02 unigolyn wrote:
On October 26 2013 07:59 Assirra wrote:
On October 26 2013 07:56 unigolyn wrote:
On October 26 2013 07:55 Waise wrote:
[quote]
yes, i like it, that doesn't mean maintaining it is my responsibility or that i would care a lot if it became less available

i would simply invest my time in other interests. you can't really tell me what is or isn't a drawback for me, lol


What a petulant attitude.

And your attitude of trying to blame people about stuff you got no business about is goddam annoying.


I'm trying to explain to you why disabling adblock helps these tournaments that you're watching. You're welcome to subscribe instead.

If you want to be a freeloader, be a freeloader. But don't expect to not get called on it when you start soapboxing about it.


Advertisers only make money when people actually buy the products they're advertising. You're pretty much asking viewers to hurt the advertisers by having them pay tournaments for useless ad impressions.


Quick, name a brand of washing detergent.

Now, think of the kinds of ads that brand shows on TV. 10 bucks says they're really really really annoying and you switch the channel every time you see them.


Yes, I switch the channel. And the advertisers don't fucking care that I do. If you're not buying the product, it doesn't matter whether you watch the ad or not.



Whoosh.

edit: you missed the point, which was that it was the first brand that came to mind. Which is exactly what the advertising is for.


Sorry, that would be Kirkland, which is the brand I buy.


Let's drop this, you seem constitutionally incapable of comprehending my point.


That's because your point is useless. Advertisers know that there are consumers that their ads won't reach effectively. They know there's a certain amount of people who will tune out, change the channel or otherwise block their ads. They try to measure that and incorporate those estimates when deciding which ads to buy and how much to pay for them.

All you're really advocating is for people to cheat those metrics on behalf of the content providers they follow.
Merilwen
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
72 Posts
October 25 2013 23:26 GMT
#3486
Can I just say I really do think Goswser's casting is improving. Having seen him when he started for NASL, he is getting a lot more charismatic and into his casts. While in my opinion he still lacks a bit of the flair and energy that comes from a history in the field, he should be commended for his strong and resolute progression; His knowledge of the game really evident. Here's to hoping he just gets better and better! c: Thanks Goswser c:
The key to all knowledge is a loving heart.
Heavenlee
Profile Joined April 2012
United States966 Posts
October 25 2013 23:27 GMT
#3487
On October 26 2013 08:25 mememolly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 08:23 Bagration wrote:
On October 26 2013 08:22 mememolly wrote:
On October 26 2013 08:21 Assirra wrote:
Forcefields are so frustrating to watch.


yeah, easily the worst thing about this game and unnerfable unless you want to completely break the game


But you have to admit that an engagement like that was beautiful. Not anyone can pull that off


it just sucks that the zerg can't do anything once the ice-cubes go down, everything depends on the Protoss's FFs


Don't put yourself into such a terrible position in the first place then.
groms
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1017 Posts
October 25 2013 23:27 GMT
#3488
Lol i can't believe people think that forcefields being broken won that engagement. Byul had poor positioning and let duckdeok walk up to his 3rd without doing any pressure so his sentries had full ff energy. That's called shitty play.

Then he decides to engage anyways while his roaches do zero damage behind good forcefields.

I am a fan of byul and that was pathetic...
I have a recurring dream that I'm running away from a terran player but the marauders keep slowing me down. - Artosis
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 25 2013 23:27 GMT
#3489
[WCS Finals] Day 1 Season 3 2013 Group D
[image loading] (P)duckdeok vs. [image loading] (Z)ByuL
Game 2 (1-0)
Map: Akilon Wastes

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duckdeok spawns in the bottom right
ByuL spawns in the top left
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mememolly
Profile Joined December 2011
4765 Posts
October 25 2013 23:27 GMT
#3490
On October 26 2013 08:26 y0su wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 08:24 Bagration wrote:
On October 26 2013 08:23 Weavel wrote:
On October 26 2013 08:22 stuchiu wrote:
On October 26 2013 08:21 Weavel wrote:
On October 26 2013 08:21 SoSexy wrote:
Gretorp has NO IDEA at all when predicting battles. NO IDEA.
Much like day9 and mr.bitter. Sad but true.


Tod, Grubby... SAVE US!
I'd actually like if idra got some more casting jobs. He was really good at Asus rog.


Me too. He mentioned that he picked a bad time to retire because a lot of casting positions for upcoming tournaments at the time had been filled, but it's been nearly 5 months and I believe he's only really casted ASUS

Yeah... I really wonder what's going on with him not getting additional work. (Unless he's turning things down)


he mentioned on stream that a lot of casters are working for cheap or nothing at all and it's hard getting work because of that
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
October 25 2013 23:27 GMT
#3491
Thanks for the reminder about ad-block, moved to my no-adblock browser #savethecheerleadersavetheworld

PvZ my least favorite to watch =[
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
October 25 2013 23:27 GMT
#3492
On October 26 2013 08:25 mememolly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 08:23 Bagration wrote:
On October 26 2013 08:22 mememolly wrote:
On October 26 2013 08:21 Assirra wrote:
Forcefields are so frustrating to watch.


yeah, easily the worst thing about this game and unnerfable unless you want to completely break the game


But you have to admit that an engagement like that was beautiful. Not anyone can pull that off


it just sucks that the zerg can't do anything once the ice-cubes go down, everything depends on the Protoss's FFs


Maybe that's not a bad thing necessarily if it rewards better army positioning prior to the battle. For example, it would be been nice if Byul had sent a flank around to the backside.

I think that was one of the reasons why Stephano had been so successful. He set up his engagements prior to the battles beautifully.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Knorre
Profile Joined June 2011
Austria151 Posts
October 25 2013 23:27 GMT
#3493
On October 26 2013 08:26 Boucot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 08:23 Knorre wrote:
What would have happened if Byul burrowed his units?

duckdeok had an observer.


Thank you, I missed that.
purgerinho
Profile Joined June 2008
Croatia919 Posts
October 25 2013 23:28 GMT
#3494
On October 26 2013 08:24 dainbramage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 08:21 purgerinho wrote:
omg, this is so hard to watch... 170 to 108 and he losses... cmon! :D :D :D

The race with an automatically superior economy and units that cost half as much per supply has a higher supply.

In other news, water is wet.



oh please, if there is such a difference it is an automatic win.. this crap happens once in 100 games..
SUMMARIZED (by DeMu): You CANNOT surprise a top level Protoss with a build
ClueClueClue
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Sweden1203 Posts
October 25 2013 23:28 GMT
#3495
It would have been so sick if Byul 1. Got the flank off, 2. Killed his own hatchery off and got some freaking surface area in the fight.... but hindsight is a bitch.
Cogito, ergo toss.
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
October 25 2013 23:28 GMT
#3496
On October 26 2013 08:26 y0su wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 08:24 Bagration wrote:
On October 26 2013 08:23 Weavel wrote:
On October 26 2013 08:22 stuchiu wrote:
On October 26 2013 08:21 Weavel wrote:
On October 26 2013 08:21 SoSexy wrote:
Gretorp has NO IDEA at all when predicting battles. NO IDEA.
Much like day9 and mr.bitter. Sad but true.


Tod, Grubby... SAVE US!
I'd actually like if idra got some more casting jobs. He was really good at Asus rog.


Me too. He mentioned that he picked a bad time to retire because a lot of casting positions for upcoming tournaments at the time had been filled, but it's been nearly 5 months and I believe he's only really casted ASUS

Yeah... I really wonder what's going on with him not getting additional work. (Unless he's turning things down)

It's because it's far too easy to keep your job as a caster even if you are bad at it and there are several more qualified people available.

Casting has basically become a country club of nepotism, if I could make a clean sweep of the whole casting scene and refill with people who are actually the best candidates, I would in a heartbeat.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
TaishiCi
Profile Joined September 2013
Korea (South)211 Posts
October 25 2013 23:28 GMT
#3497
On October 26 2013 08:24 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 08:16 TaishiCi wrote:
On October 26 2013 08:14 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On October 26 2013 08:11 TaishiCi wrote:
On October 26 2013 08:08 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On October 26 2013 08:05 TaishiCi wrote:
On October 26 2013 08:04 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On October 26 2013 08:03 Schelim wrote:
On October 26 2013 08:02 stuchiu wrote:
Just a straight boo.

that's a bit rude. they are just doing a job they are getting paid for. but i don't think this combo is a particularly smart move on NASL's part.


Yeah, people have continuously expressed disappointment.

Btw, do Koreans have designated casters for this? If so, anywhere I can watch?

http://player.afreeca.com/afgame02


Thank you very much!

I have no idea if you can watch or not.
Like many Korean sites the registration needs a Korean SSN.


I am able to, the only issue is I don't know how I can full screen it, mute it, or pause the video. If I exit the window I have to refresh the page. It's not a big deal though, full screen would be nice though.

Try double clicking on the stream.


Nope... It's okay. I'll watch like this. Thanks again for the help (:

Afreeca is the central location for BW and Sc2 streams in Korean.
Basically Korean twitch.
They have this thing where you buy points and give points to streamers.
Not sure how much they get but if you give large enough donation, people thank you personally on stream.

Dae Han Min Gook Man Sae!!!
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
October 25 2013 23:29 GMT
#3498
10 pool for sure. I used this build all of the time.
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Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
October 25 2013 23:29 GMT
#3499
On October 26 2013 08:26 Merilwen wrote:
Can I just say I really do think Goswser's casting is improving. Having seen him when he started for NASL, he is getting a lot more charismatic and into his casts. While in my opinion he still lacks a bit of the flair and energy that comes from a history in the field, he should be commended for his strong and resolute progression; His knowledge of the game really evident. Here's to hoping he just gets better and better! c: Thanks Goswser c:


Im not exactly a fan of Goswser but I agree with you. And I like that he speaks his mind when he disagrees with Gretorp
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
October 25 2013 23:29 GMT
#3500
On October 26 2013 08:28 Zackeva wrote:
It would have been so sick if Byul 1. Got the flank off, 2. Killed his own hatchery off and got some freaking surface area in the fight.... but hindsight is a bitch.


Killing off your own hatchery would have been stupid though. It's a ton of wasted dps, and it cripples your economy, only to create a gap that can be filled with 2 forcefields anyways.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
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