• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 15:28
CEST 21:28
KST 04:28
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Holding On6Maestros of the Game: Live Finals Preview (RO4)5TL.net Map Contest #21 - Finalists4Team TLMC #5: Vote to Decide Ladder Maps!0[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Mile High15
Community News
5.0.15 Balance Patch Notes (Live version)58$2,500 WardiTV TL Map Contest Tournament 151Stellar Fest: StarCraft II returns to Canada10Weekly Cups (Sept 22-28): MaxPax double, Zerg wins, PTR12BSL Season 217
StarCraft 2
General
5.0.15 Balance Patch Notes (Live version) Stellar Fest: StarCraft II returns to Canada SC2 5.0.15 PTR Patch Notes + Sept 22nd update Had to smile :) Weekly Cups (Sept 22-28): MaxPax double, Zerg wins, PTR
Tourneys
$2,500 WardiTV TL Map Contest Tournament 15 Stellar Fest Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament LANified! 37: Groundswell, BYOC LAN, Nov 28-30 2025 Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 493 Quick Killers Mutation # 492 Get Out More Mutation # 491 Night Drive Mutation # 490 Masters of Midnight
Brood War
General
Flash On JaeDongs ASL Struggles & Perseverance ASL20 General Discussion Thoughts on rarely used units BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Any rep analyzer that shows resources situation?
Tourneys
[ASL20] Ro8 Day 4 Small VOD Thread 2.0 [ASL20] Ro8 Day 3 3D!Community Brood War Super Cup №3
Strategy
Current Meta I am doing this better than progamers do. Simple Questions, Simple Answers Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy)
Other Games
General Games
Dawn of War IV Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Liquipedia App: Now Covering SC2 and Brood War!
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Games Industry And ATVI Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List BarCraft in Tokyo Japan for ASL Season5 Final
Blogs
Mental Health In Esports: Wo…
TrAiDoS
[AI] Sorry, Chill, My Bad :…
Peanutsc
Try to reverse getting fired …
Garnet
[ASL20] Players bad at pi…
pullarius1
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1508 users

[Code S] Semi-Finals WCS Korea GSL Season 3 2013 - Page 24

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 22 23 24 25 26 74 Next
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
October 09 2013 09:55 GMT
#461
Once again Maru goes for the really quick +1 and only 2 barracks before factory. Not a good build vs blink stalker imo, Maru might be in trouble.
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 09 2013 09:55 GMT
#462
On October 09 2013 18:52 Latto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2013 18:28 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 09 2013 18:20 Latto wrote:
On October 09 2013 18:08 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 09 2013 18:05 Latto wrote:
I really wish Artosis and Tasteless would abandon their idea that if you win code S that automatically makes you the best player in the world.
Actually, even going further I wish they would stop constantly labeling players as (He is the best player in the world) followed by whatever player losing making them sound kinda dumb...
No one player is the clear best like Flash was in BW, so can we all just stop being so persistent about having to have a "best player"


Just let the hype building happen, it is more entertaining to hear "This guy is the best in the world!" rather than "well at the moment this guy is doing quite well but it is hard to be consistent so let's wait and see"


Don't get me wrong I'm not being some sour puss, I understand their intentions and all i.e. just kinda being fun, building hype and what not but it had just gotten so old to hear by now. I think it's been pretty clear in the past that the winner of code S really doesn't translate to he's the best player. SC2 is far too... hmm volatile? where any decent player can take out a player far more skilled than them just because of how the game is designed.
And on another point, if people want SC2 to be taken more seriously and all it just doesn't sound very intelligent(maybe wrong word) or unprofessional to keep harping on BEST PLAYER IN TEH WORLDZ... and that title of best player in teh worldz just somehow seems to change from player to player every few months. Someone comes around and dominates for a bit then falls back.
It's just an annoyance to me, especially when they are saying player X is the best player when everyone that has a clue about the SC2 scene knows damn well that player X isn't the best player... You don't see other sports saying irrational shit like that every game..
I think the only way to give a title like that respectfully and actually have it Mean something is the player that wins world finals or blizzcon or something. but each time they harp on some new best player they discredit the title of best player.
Going by how often they dish out best player in teh world awards it sure seems like SC2 is a volatile game that shouldn't be taken seriously.
K gonna stop now before people bitch and moan at me and throw pitchforks.. Not trying to insult your favorite or should I say BEST casters in teh worldz!@
Code S time~!


I can see your point and for some people, like yourself, it is probably annoying to hear that so and so is the best in the world when you know differently. Probably Tastosis know this too but it is their job to hype up the game.

I have to disagree with your point that other sports don't say irrational shit like that.

I watch NFL pretty much every Sunday, Monday and Thursday and every game you will hear that one of the players is the best in the league at his position, or one of the teams has the best defence in the league etc.
A lot of this will go against stats or even the play from the past few weeks but it is a hell of a lot more exciting to hear "Possibly the greatest NFL QB going up against the world's best pass rusher" When in reality it is some middle of the road QB up against some guy who has faced weak OL for the past few weeks.

It is part of the entertainment


Heh, I thought my reply was going to not get seen and skipped but alas!

I definitely see your point and for the most part of my sc2 experience I have had the same opinions on the matter and still do to a point. I don't know if I'm just kinda irritated tonight or whatever but that phrase "Best player in the world" is brought up so often by them specifically and most of the time they're saying it about a player who is clearly not the best in the world... It's just annoying to hear it now.
Looking back to BW and the great fun part of watching it were the stories behind the matches and what not, that is something that I personally think is severely lacking in the sc2 scene making it just not as fun to watch. I think it would add to the viewing experience if the title of Best player in the world was rarely attributed to a player. So when you hear "X player is the best in the world" it actually means something, like "wow this player has done this and this and won this many tournys in a short amount of time they really do deserve to be called the best, they worked for it" ~ I want to be able to say that when I hear that phrase, it should be prestigious in the SC2 scene... you can only have one #1 best player.
Flash was the best player
Jaedong was the best zerg
Those players truly deserved a title like that, but it just wouldn't mean anything if you would hear casters saying other zergs or just other players in general are the best in the world or their respective races just because they happened to end up winning one tournament.
TL;DR I think it would add a lot to the viewing experience if the community/casters would actually hold the title of 'Best player in the world' in high regard only given to a player that truly deserves it and has shown that they are the best over a longer period of time... like re-evaluating who the best are at the end of the year, once a year.
Right now they toss around best in the world titles like it means nothing, like just throwing candy into a crowd of kids or something.
Give me more of a storyline. Sorry for typing so much... Adderall blues.


I see what you mean and because you were a BW follower hearing the title get tossed around must be frustrating because none of the current "best in the world" were even close to the dominance that Flash or JD had.
But using the title is a great way to build hype for a match so I can forgive them for that.
I long for the day that starcraft 2 gets fully figured out and the great players rise to the very top and truly earn the best player in the world spot beyond dispute.
Zerg for Life
samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
October 09 2013 09:55 GMT
#463
On October 09 2013 18:51 y0su wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2013 18:46 aZealot wrote:
On October 09 2013 18:44 Doublemint wrote:
On October 09 2013 18:41 SlixSC wrote:
On October 09 2013 18:38 y0su wrote:
and we see why unit clumping is something for skill to fix, not blizzard. such an amazing game to watch!


This. People constantly arguing that unit clumping is making SC2 less skillful seem to miss the important fact that, with micro like maru's, you can actually do so much more with your units.

Almost nobody is capable of spliting units that well, which is a testament to the high skill cap in this game.


And you need to be Terran - or Zerg to some degree. For Protoss such micro opportunities don't really exist -_-


Hmm, not comparably, no. :-/

I'd like to be able to manually control and direct charge in these small scale engagements. Than have to rely on Colossi.

I actually saw some of the players at ASUS ROG talking about / testing auto vs manual charge (some - I won't name any - didn't realize you could manually charge). There's a lot micro (and positioning) that can really raise the skill cap higher than people think.

(yes, sc2 has different mechanical skill preference than either BW or WC3, wow)

Unfortunaltely this kind of micro in protoss race is not really APM effcicient imo. Of course there is also some very APM efficient micro in protoss too, but in less cases than terrans/zergs.
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
October 09 2013 09:56 GMT
#464
sick blink
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
Dark.Carnival
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5095 Posts
October 09 2013 09:56 GMT
#465
haha nice blink Dear
@QxGDarkCell ._.
aZealot
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
New Zealand5447 Posts
October 09 2013 09:56 GMT
#466
On October 09 2013 18:51 TheOne26 wrote:
artosis "big crowd out there today"
tasteless "its packed in here"

i thought that picture earlier in the thread showed a tiny crowd lol


Might have been before the start of the day's games.
KT best KT ~ 2014
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
October 09 2013 09:56 GMT
#467
bleh, blink stalkers lol
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
October 09 2013 09:56 GMT
#468
Ouch....
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
October 09 2013 09:56 GMT
#469
Guess he saved the blink for this map. Onto game 4.
Moderator
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8585 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-09 09:57:05
October 09 2013 09:56 GMT
#470
very nice tech choice by Dear for this map, and the execution great as well

//edit: ohhh dat dance :D
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
October 09 2013 09:56 GMT
#471
Poll: Recommend Dear vs. Maru Game 3?

★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (19)
 
37%

★★★★★- One of the best games this season (12)
 
23%

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (8)
 
15%

★★★- Good game (7)
 
13%

★★★★- Highly recommended game (6)
 
12%

52 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Dear vs. Maru Game 3?

(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what

ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
October 09 2013 09:57 GMT
#472
missclick win?
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
October 09 2013 09:57 GMT
#473
that next level failblink causing maru to become overconfident.

IT'S GENIUS.
artrea
Profile Joined March 2011
Latvia3560 Posts
October 09 2013 09:57 GMT
#474
ack that was sort of expected besides the cool reaper opening
TheOne26
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia142 Posts
October 09 2013 09:57 GMT
#475
boring
NightOfTheDead
Profile Joined August 2009
Lithuania1711 Posts
October 09 2013 09:57 GMT
#476
MKP gg timing.
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
October 09 2013 09:57 GMT
#477
Dear's blink stalker micro isn't even that good...
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
October 09 2013 09:57 GMT
#478
Too much greed from Maru.
The curse is real
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
October 09 2013 09:57 GMT
#479
Community News
TL+ Member
TeeTS
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany2762 Posts
October 09 2013 09:57 GMT
#480
Can´t do anything against this on that map. nothing to blame you for maru.
Prev 1 22 23 24 25 26 74 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 3h 32m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 676
UpATreeSC 173
JuggernautJason72
StarCraft: Brood War
Larva 281
firebathero 162
Dewaltoss 160
sSak 71
BRAT_OK 46
Aegong 35
Mong 30
NaDa 5
Dota 2
capcasts15
Counter-Strike
fl0m2020
ScreaM694
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu495
Other Games
FrodaN2714
Beastyqt613
mouzStarbuck210
KnowMe161
C9.Mang0141
ArmadaUGS102
NeuroSwarm60
QueenE55
Mew2King46
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV52
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 19 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 45
• davetesta32
• Kozan
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• IndyKCrew
• intothetv
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21278
• Ler110
• lizZardDota254
League of Legends
• Nemesis3341
Other Games
• imaqtpie1280
• WagamamaTV346
• Shiphtur242
Upcoming Events
Online Event
3h 32m
Wardi Open
15h 32m
Online Event
21h 32m
Online Event
1d 15h
[BSL 2025] Weekly
1d 22h
Safe House 2
1d 22h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
BSL Team Wars
2 days
Team Bonyth vs Team Dewalt
Dewalt vs kogeT
JDConan vs Tarson
RaNgeD vs DragOn
StRyKeR vs Bonyth
Aeternum vs Hejek
Replay Cast
3 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-09-25
Maestros of the Game
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
Acropolis #4 - TS2
EC S1
ESL Pro League S22
Frag Blocktober 2025
Urban Riga Open #1
FERJEE Rush 2025
Birch Cup 2025
DraculaN #2
LanDaLan #3
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1

Upcoming

IPSL Winter 2025-26
SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
WardiTV TLMC #15
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.