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InfamousOne
Profile Joined April 2013
United States110 Posts
September 12 2013 15:54 GMT
#981
On September 12 2013 21:48 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2013 21:47 machokj wrote:
When are ro16 groups drawn ?

Tomorrow group selection ceremony.
I believe pickers are:
A. Soulkey
B. Maru
C. Bogus/Rain
D. Rain/Bogus (not sure which one has more GSL ranking points, since Bogus was more consistent but decay).


Wait the players get to pick who is in their group? Does it work like this in all the regions? It cant becuz no way polt would have selected his group
dark1882
Profile Joined October 2012
Ireland529 Posts
September 12 2013 16:00 GMT
#982
they choose first person in their group i think
forge fast expand or die trying~Naniwa
InfamousOne
Profile Joined April 2013
United States110 Posts
September 12 2013 16:02 GMT
#983
Oh they get one pick each and then the rest random? Do u know if its like that in every regions
myminerals
Profile Joined August 2013
560 Posts
September 12 2013 16:04 GMT
#984
On September 13 2013 00:39 Darkhoarse wrote:
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On September 12 2013 23:38 myminerals wrote:
On September 12 2013 22:37 Darkhoarse wrote:
On September 12 2013 22:32 myminerals wrote:
On September 12 2013 22:24 Kasaraki wrote:
Meh, Bomber is Bomber, that will never change. People thinking he'd ever escape the law were delusional. The worst part is that he goes out with completely uninspired play, both in WCS KR and Season Finals last season he showed great, innovative, intelligent play, with a lot of variety and clever build-orders. Today, he falls flat with predictable and vapid play. :s

And apart from Bomber, bad season for IM. For reasons beyond me, Losira is once again our strongest player in WCS Korea. :o


A player with inspired play is called a class player, such are Bogus, Rain, sOs and others. The way how ppl put so many expectations on Bomber and the likes does not stop to amuse.

Yeah because sOs always plays with such inspiring play. Oh and the part where bogus and rain both struggled at the tourney that bomber won. Your vague and misguided comments do not stop to amuse.

Would you like to argue about who was more consistent Rain or Bomber, Bogus or Bomber?
Maybe I should just pick somebody less notable.
But you're right in the end, I'm jumping on him because I was jelly he won the damn thing not the player I like

I was a little quick to jump on you like that. Bogus and Rain are more consistent than Bomber, but remember that everyone can have these sorts of moments. Bogus did at the world finals, and Rain was unceremoniously ousted from GSL season 5 (he did forfeit his code S games but being 2-0'd by MVPDream in Code A was a bit of a flop).

Bomber may have these struggles with consistency, but everyone does.

I actually think that there is noone who clearly dominates SC2 scene right now and this is quite interesting.
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
September 12 2013 16:04 GMT
#985
On September 13 2013 01:02 InfamousOne wrote:
Oh they get one pick each and then the rest random? Do u know if its like that in every regions


They get to choose first, that player gets to choose the next player of the group and so on. EU and AM just draws the groups
DinoToss
Profile Joined August 2013
Poland507 Posts
September 12 2013 16:07 GMT
#986
At least he didnt go down to a foreigner
My wrist really started to flare up. My colossi number started to pile up and with the last of my concentration I prepared for a win.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
September 12 2013 16:22 GMT
#987
Bomber is out? Bomber's law is back in full effect! XD
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Figgy
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1788 Posts
September 12 2013 16:47 GMT
#988
On September 13 2013 01:22 BigFan wrote:
Bomber is out? Bomber's law is back in full effect! XD


Not until he gets knocked out of Code A 2-0 and then gets mauled in the up and downs.

It's coming guys
Bug Fixes Fixed an issue where, when facing a SlayerS terran, completing a hatchery would cause a medivac and 8 marines to randomly spawn nearby and attack it.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 12 2013 17:01 GMT
#989
On September 13 2013 00:54 InfamousOne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2013 21:48 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 12 2013 21:47 machokj wrote:
When are ro16 groups drawn ?

Tomorrow group selection ceremony.
I believe pickers are:
A. Soulkey
B. Maru
C. Bogus/Rain
D. Rain/Bogus (not sure which one has more GSL ranking points, since Bogus was more consistent but decay).


Wait the players get to pick who is in their group? Does it work like this in all the regions? It cant becuz no way polt would have selected his group

Yes, for Ro16 group there is(or was T_T) dedicated group ceremony, and it is hilarious (especially considering that we will not have Innovation there in person, so probably he will be replaced by someone else). No, other regions are using random draw, and so does GSL for Ro32 (except for right of finalists to select their 1st opponent).
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 12 2013 17:02 GMT
#990
On September 13 2013 01:47 Figgy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2013 01:22 BigFan wrote:
Bomber is out? Bomber's law is back in full effect! XD


Not until he gets knocked out of Code A 2-0 and then gets mauled in the up and downs.

It's coming guys

Then he wins Blizzcon and proceeds to get knocked out of GSL by sniper (since Blizzard will be fed up and will buff infestors HAHAHAHAH)
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
September 12 2013 17:03 GMT
#991
On September 12 2013 17:52 Caihead wrote:
bomber fails after valiant display while soO advances with completely uninspired play.


welp....
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5599 Posts
September 12 2013 17:09 GMT
#992
On September 12 2013 23:47 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2013 23:29 bo1b wrote:
On September 12 2013 23:02 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 12 2013 23:01 bo1b wrote:
On September 12 2013 22:47 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 12 2013 22:45 bo1b wrote:
On September 12 2013 22:43 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 12 2013 22:42 Darkhoarse wrote:
On September 12 2013 22:37 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 12 2013 22:37 Darkhoarse wrote:
[quote]
Yeah because sOs always plays with such inspiring play. Oh and the part where bogus and rain both struggled at the tourney that bomber won. Your vague and misguided comments do not stop to amuse.

His builds are inspiringly hilarious in PvP though. And every player gets hot at some point, while others choke. After all, bogus and rain are Maru-approved chokers :D

He seemed to suggest that players like innovation and rain are above choking, whereas that is typical Bomber. I just don't agree with him jumping in to bash bomber at an opportune moment.

Yeah, for some reason Bomber chokes are more notable, while pretty much every player in korean scene chokes at one point or another. Except Mvp during said period, but still.

Mvp wasn't unstoppable for his period of dominance.

At least he was placing consistently high during it, and not going out of Ro32 the next season he placed top 4 in GSL (2012 is out of this period, it does not count :d)

He won the first gsl of 2011 then bombed out in ro32 the very next one.

During period of dominance, not early 2011. Read attentively.

He won 2 gsls in three months, how was that not a period of his dominance?

He placed in top 4 in 3 GSLs + Blizzcup in a row, won Blizzcon, MLG Anaheim, WCG and few major tournaments. Now that's a period of dominance.

it was before the KeSPA switch, so the competition was bad.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
September 12 2013 17:11 GMT
#993
On September 13 2013 02:09 Elroi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2013 23:47 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 12 2013 23:29 bo1b wrote:
On September 12 2013 23:02 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 12 2013 23:01 bo1b wrote:
On September 12 2013 22:47 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 12 2013 22:45 bo1b wrote:
On September 12 2013 22:43 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 12 2013 22:42 Darkhoarse wrote:
On September 12 2013 22:37 lolfail9001 wrote:
[quote]
His builds are inspiringly hilarious in PvP though. And every player gets hot at some point, while others choke. After all, bogus and rain are Maru-approved chokers :D

He seemed to suggest that players like innovation and rain are above choking, whereas that is typical Bomber. I just don't agree with him jumping in to bash bomber at an opportune moment.

Yeah, for some reason Bomber chokes are more notable, while pretty much every player in korean scene chokes at one point or another. Except Mvp during said period, but still.

Mvp wasn't unstoppable for his period of dominance.

At least he was placing consistently high during it, and not going out of Ro32 the next season he placed top 4 in GSL (2012 is out of this period, it does not count :d)

He won the first gsl of 2011 then bombed out in ro32 the very next one.

During period of dominance, not early 2011. Read attentively.

He won 2 gsls in three months, how was that not a period of his dominance?

He placed in top 4 in 3 GSLs + Blizzcup in a row, won Blizzcon, MLG Anaheim, WCG and few major tournaments. Now that's a period of dominance.

it was before the KeSPA switch, so the competition was bad.

Not this shit again
AdministratorBreak the chains
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 12 2013 17:16 GMT
#994
On September 13 2013 02:09 Elroi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2013 23:47 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 12 2013 23:29 bo1b wrote:
On September 12 2013 23:02 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 12 2013 23:01 bo1b wrote:
On September 12 2013 22:47 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 12 2013 22:45 bo1b wrote:
On September 12 2013 22:43 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 12 2013 22:42 Darkhoarse wrote:
On September 12 2013 22:37 lolfail9001 wrote:
[quote]
His builds are inspiringly hilarious in PvP though. And every player gets hot at some point, while others choke. After all, bogus and rain are Maru-approved chokers :D

He seemed to suggest that players like innovation and rain are above choking, whereas that is typical Bomber. I just don't agree with him jumping in to bash bomber at an opportune moment.

Yeah, for some reason Bomber chokes are more notable, while pretty much every player in korean scene chokes at one point or another. Except Mvp during said period, but still.

Mvp wasn't unstoppable for his period of dominance.

At least he was placing consistently high during it, and not going out of Ro32 the next season he placed top 4 in GSL (2012 is out of this period, it does not count :d)

He won the first gsl of 2011 then bombed out in ro32 the very next one.

During period of dominance, not early 2011. Read attentively.

He won 2 gsls in three months, how was that not a period of his dominance?

He placed in top 4 in 3 GSLs + Blizzcup in a row, won Blizzcon, MLG Anaheim, WCG and few major tournaments. Now that's a period of dominance.

it was before the KeSPA switch, so the competition was bad.

You mean before Bisu switched :D?
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5599 Posts
September 12 2013 17:29 GMT
#995
On September 13 2013 02:11 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2013 02:09 Elroi wrote:
On September 12 2013 23:47 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 12 2013 23:29 bo1b wrote:
On September 12 2013 23:02 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 12 2013 23:01 bo1b wrote:
On September 12 2013 22:47 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 12 2013 22:45 bo1b wrote:
On September 12 2013 22:43 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 12 2013 22:42 Darkhoarse wrote:
[quote]
He seemed to suggest that players like innovation and rain are above choking, whereas that is typical Bomber. I just don't agree with him jumping in to bash bomber at an opportune moment.

Yeah, for some reason Bomber chokes are more notable, while pretty much every player in korean scene chokes at one point or another. Except Mvp during said period, but still.

Mvp wasn't unstoppable for his period of dominance.

At least he was placing consistently high during it, and not going out of Ro32 the next season he placed top 4 in GSL (2012 is out of this period, it does not count :d)

He won the first gsl of 2011 then bombed out in ro32 the very next one.

During period of dominance, not early 2011. Read attentively.

He won 2 gsls in three months, how was that not a period of his dominance?

He placed in top 4 in 3 GSLs + Blizzcup in a row, won Blizzcon, MLG Anaheim, WCG and few major tournaments. Now that's a period of dominance.

it was before the KeSPA switch, so the competition was bad.

Not this shit again

ok 'bad' is probably not the right word. but it was much worse. of course it would be without 50% of the top players.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
sigm
Profile Joined December 2010
192 Posts
September 12 2013 17:30 GMT
#996
Looks like Bomber did indeed fight the law, and the law won. Too bad that Artosis wasn't around, maybe he could've used his powers to curse one of his opponents.
Like a Boss
Profile Joined January 2011
502 Posts
September 12 2013 18:03 GMT
#997
Psyduck!? Psy? Psyduck????
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
September 12 2013 18:14 GMT
#998
On September 13 2013 00:43 Darkhoarse wrote:
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On September 13 2013 00:34 never_Nal wrote:
This thread became a dominance thing? Congrats to the players that got through, and maybe now people will see the true over hyped Bomber i've always seen

*sigh* He went ro8, ro4, and then won the world finals. How can you not hype him up?


People like to hate, yo.

OT: How were the games ? Classic bomber throw or that was actually disputed ? (I'd prefer the "not-hurting-esport" objective recap' :D)
LiquipediaWanderer
Yoshirou_Iba
Profile Joined January 2013
Paraguay37 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-12 18:34:09
September 12 2013 18:19 GMT
#999
omg, the Bomber Law is fucking real. He is worse than promising stock market total collapse or the big depression, suddenly and with no apparent reason, just smashes face first, face plants on the ground any time greater than usual expectation is by his side. The law is consistent with bomber, it has never never failed ever as long ive been his fan.
Let me make stupid analogy, he is like the kid in the group who want to say something, he reallly want to say something but the other kids talk louder and nobody listen, and he is desperate for attention and suddenly he gets attention, and he gets really excited, but then he says, "I fogot what i wanted to say" and chuckles while scratching his head while all kids look strange confused look at him, and all the kids forget him again lol. bomber for you
edgeOut
Profile Joined February 2013
United States945 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-12 18:30:03
September 12 2013 18:25 GMT
#1000
On September 13 2013 02:11 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2013 02:09 Elroi wrote:
On September 12 2013 23:47 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 12 2013 23:29 bo1b wrote:
On September 12 2013 23:02 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 12 2013 23:01 bo1b wrote:
On September 12 2013 22:47 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 12 2013 22:45 bo1b wrote:
On September 12 2013 22:43 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 12 2013 22:42 Darkhoarse wrote:
[quote]
He seemed to suggest that players like innovation and rain are above choking, whereas that is typical Bomber. I just don't agree with him jumping in to bash bomber at an opportune moment.

Yeah, for some reason Bomber chokes are more notable, while pretty much every player in korean scene chokes at one point or another. Except Mvp during said period, but still.

Mvp wasn't unstoppable for his period of dominance.

At least he was placing consistently high during it, and not going out of Ro32 the next season he placed top 4 in GSL (2012 is out of this period, it does not count :d)

He won the first gsl of 2011 then bombed out in ro32 the very next one.

During period of dominance, not early 2011. Read attentively.

He won 2 gsls in three months, how was that not a period of his dominance?

He placed in top 4 in 3 GSLs + Blizzcup in a row, won Blizzcon, MLG Anaheim, WCG and few major tournaments. Now that's a period of dominance.

it was before the KeSPA switch, so the competition was bad.

Not this shit again


Zealously always shitting on players and fans is worse though.

Fuck you Zealously! For the fuck you give to those players.
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