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eurTsItniH
Profile Joined January 2012
887 Posts
August 10 2013 14:29 GMT
#881
On August 10 2013 23:28 NovaMB wrote:
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Dan Stemkoski ‏@Artosis 52m
Excited to watch @NrSWelmu's PvP again.


I know what happened to Welmu


Ah that is unfortunate.
Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
August 10 2013 14:29 GMT
#882
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Vertigro
Profile Joined October 2012
United Kingdom261 Posts
August 10 2013 14:29 GMT
#883
On August 10 2013 23:28 Sated wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 23:28 NovaMB wrote:
Dan Stemkoski ‏@Artosis 52m
Excited to watch @NrSWelmu's PvP again.


I know what happened

GOD DAMN IT ARTOSIS!!!


i just know he's going to curse every single one of my favourites
"..." - Greg 'IdrA' Fields +++ DeMuslim, Naniwa, Jaedong, Hero, Suppy! <3 <3
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-10 14:30:13
August 10 2013 14:29 GMT
#884
I've never seen hallucinated duel Phoenix shoot at each other before.

GG GO MC!
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
August 10 2013 14:30 GMT
#885
On August 10 2013 23:28 NovaMB wrote:
Show nested quote +
Dan Stemkoski ‏@Artosis 52m
Excited to watch @NrSWelmu's PvP again.


I know what happened


Come on Artosis... Can't you just curse all the Koreans for once? ONCE?
What about: "I think every single WCS win in 2013 will go to a Korean."
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
August 10 2013 14:30 GMT
#886
On August 10 2013 23:26 Crownlol wrote:
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On August 10 2013 23:23 Rollora wrote:
On August 10 2013 23:16 Sated wrote:
On August 10 2013 23:12 Rollora wrote:
On August 10 2013 22:57 FSKi wrote:
I wonder if the PvPlayoffs are possibly driving away a few viewers. Hopefully not.

of course they are. I switched off and went to work on something as soon as I saw the PvP beginning. I would not watch a PvP finale AT ALL.
From all the mirror matchups PvP is the most boring.
Generally to me, Protoss is the most boring race to watch. Also to play (tried it so often now, cannot motivate me - i don't like the mechanics behind it, its not like Zerg or Terran, where I feel much more "controlling" the game during I play it, but maybe thats because with protoss many players stay defensive until they have this one death ball and then go for it, which isn't as fun to play or watch then to really wear your opponent down through aggression, harassement, summing up minor advantages to a big one...

Meanwhile, if the final is a TvZ, I won't bother watching. It's almost as if people prefer watching their own race...

well...yes... and no.
TvZ has for a long time been considered the best/most entertaining MU to watch. If you make a survey this will be the MU way in front of PvZ or PvT. Not counting the mirror matchups.
Of course the "my own race that i understand" thing comes into play. But I play random and still P is compared to the other races less exciting to play and watch for me, although I try to bring the skills in, i learned from playing the other races (constant harassement throughout the games, several warp prisms 3+ working on different places around the map and even EVACUATE the warped in units (a thing you have to learn as terran very soon, but after 3 years of SC2, protoss still didn't learn to evacuate their ~1k ressources warpin, guess it's not required yet, but shows, that there is still room for improvement throughout the players and that it is not the race alone, that protoss isn't considered OP ATM).
And of course, if people watch only the race they play, PvP finals would lead to lower viewer counts, as there is only one of the 3 races played (and because of the mirror builds, it is even less exciting...)



The mamacore and nexuscannon have completely changed the matchup. People need to stop crying like its still 4gate vs 4gate every game... it's a deeper MU than ZvZ by far.

I agree completely with you. I didn't say it didn't improve.
Plus, these 4v4 Gateway games where at least short ^^. No srsly it has improved a lot, but i still don't like the lack of harassement and army control, and that it FEELS sometimes (not saying it IS or it is all the time) that the toss players wait till they have this 1 huge army and then a-move. Which doesn't sound skillful or exciting at all.
But again: I agree it has improved, I still don't feel to excited about it. I still feel the warpin mechanics took much away from the protoss race, as I don't see too many army control groups any more that do damage on different places on the map at the same time, like in a TvZ or TvP or in Brood War.
But maybe that is yet to come - still waiting since release of sc2
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
August 10 2013 14:30 GMT
#887
On August 10 2013 23:30 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 23:28 NovaMB wrote:
Dan Stemkoski ‏@Artosis 52m
Excited to watch @NrSWelmu's PvP again.


I know what happened


Come on Artosis... Can't you just curse all the Koreans for once? ONCE?
What about: "I think every single WCS win in 2013 will go to a Korean."

His curse would need to charge it's power for a while before it would take effect.
Moderatorlickypiddy
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12371 Posts
August 10 2013 14:31 GMT
#888
On August 10 2013 22:53 Rollora wrote:
2x PvP BO5.
I will enjoy the break from SC2 watching, as NA Finals are there tonight as well...
Thank you Protoss, that 6 of you made it to the RO8


Glad that you're using this break well, explaining to us why your taste in watching video games is better than ours.
No will to live, no wish to die
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33495 Posts
August 10 2013 14:31 GMT
#889
im gonna fill in and say what monk would say: you can't go colossi straight up anymore because it's too weak to immortal-archon-chargelot before it hits critical mass
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
August 10 2013 14:31 GMT
#890
Oh cool MC is in the lead

Did he proxy oracle yet?
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
August 10 2013 14:31 GMT
#891
On August 10 2013 23:27 The_Templar wrote:
Quarterfinals
(P)Welmu vs (P)MC
0-2

Map: Newkirk Precinct

MC spawns in the bottom right
Welmu spawns in the bottom left

1:00
Both players opening gateway and scouting for proxies.

2:00
Both players making probes, mining gas, and getting a cybernetics core

3:00
Welmu getting a second gateway

4:00
MC about to pressure a bunch with his first units.

5:00
MC killing a sentry and a stalker and loses just a zealot.
Welmu forces a retreat and expands

6:00 (P)MC 32 vs (P)Welmu 33
MC attacking the natural and killing sentries.

7:00 (P)MC 48 vs (P)Welmu 41
MC kills more sentries and forces a cancel on the nexus of Welmu.
MC taking an expansion.
MC still hanging out in the natural.

8:00 (P)MC 55 vs (P)Welmu 42
Welmu getting colossus tech.
MC getting a robotics facility.
Welmu moving a warp prism towards the main of MC.
MC retreating.

9:00 (P)MC 64 vs (P)Welmu 59
Welmu retakes his natural.
Welmu about to do a zealot drop in MC's main.

10:00 (P)MC 76 vs (P)Welmu 67
MC reacts to the drop.
Welmu has been supply blocked.
MC getting a twilight council.

11:00 (P)MC 84 vs (P)Welmu 78
MC hallucinating 3 phoenixes and sending them all towards Welmu's base.
MC sees everything.
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
jonich0n
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1982 Posts
August 10 2013 14:31 GMT
#892
On August 10 2013 23:28 Sated wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 23:28 NovaMB wrote:
Dan Stemkoski ‏@Artosis 52m
Excited to watch @NrSWelmu's PvP again.


I know what happened

GOD DAMN IT ARTOSIS!!!

bahaha Artosis strikes again

I wasn't a true believer but after the way the OSL went down I think that turned me 100%
(>'.')>
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
August 10 2013 14:32 GMT
#893
Damn, Artosis has destroyed so many nerds recently, and just keep doing it.
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Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
August 10 2013 14:32 GMT
#894
On August 10 2013 23:30 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 23:30 Big J wrote:
On August 10 2013 23:28 NovaMB wrote:
Dan Stemkoski ‏@Artosis 52m
Excited to watch @NrSWelmu's PvP again.


I know what happened


Come on Artosis... Can't you just curse all the Koreans for once? ONCE?
What about: "I think every single WCS win in 2013 will go to a Korean."

His curse would need to charge it's power for a while before it would take effect.


I'm sure there is a travel version of it. You know, just in case you really, really need a curse RIGHT NOW!
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-10 14:33:14
August 10 2013 14:32 GMT
#895
Templar archives with blink seems like a blink/archon timing to me

third doesn't though. This is weird, he should start getting aggressive with those stalkers then
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
August 10 2013 14:32 GMT
#896
On August 10 2013 23:30 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 23:30 Big J wrote:
On August 10 2013 23:28 NovaMB wrote:
Dan Stemkoski ‏@Artosis 52m
Excited to watch @NrSWelmu's PvP again.


I know what happened


Come on Artosis... Can't you just curse all the Koreans for once? ONCE?
What about: "I think every single WCS win in 2013 will go to a Korean."

His curse would need to charge it's power for a while before it would take effect.

sometimes I think it needs a List where Artosis called out a Winner or something and cursed him.
List would be long right now, but it is different when we say it FEELS long or we actually have prove.

So, which Artosis curses do you remember guys?
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
August 10 2013 14:34 GMT
#897
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
August 10 2013 14:34 GMT
#898
On August 10 2013 23:30 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 23:28 NovaMB wrote:
Dan Stemkoski ‏@Artosis 52m
Excited to watch @NrSWelmu's PvP again.


I know what happened


Come on Artosis... Can't you just curse all the Koreans for once? ONCE?
What about: "I think every single WCS win in 2013 will go to a Korean."


He'd get sued for discrimination
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-10 14:35:34
August 10 2013 14:34 GMT
#899
Oh so it was actually a blink/archon timing after the third

but he suicided all his stalkers so I don't think he can do that

EDIT: well unless Welmu is way out of position, lol
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
August 10 2013 14:35 GMT
#900
On August 10 2013 23:31 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 23:27 The_Templar wrote:
Quarterfinals
(P)Welmu vs (P)MC
0-2

Map: Newkirk Precinct

MC spawns in the bottom right
Welmu spawns in the bottom left

1:00
Both players opening gateway and scouting for proxies.

2:00
Both players making probes, mining gas, and getting a cybernetics core

3:00
Welmu getting a second gateway

4:00
MC about to pressure a bunch with his first units.

5:00
MC killing a sentry and a stalker and loses just a zealot.
Welmu forces a retreat and expands

6:00 (P)MC 32 vs (P)Welmu 33
MC attacking the natural and killing sentries.

7:00 (P)MC 48 vs (P)Welmu 41
MC kills more sentries and forces a cancel on the nexus of Welmu.
MC taking an expansion.
MC still hanging out in the natural.

8:00 (P)MC 55 vs (P)Welmu 42
Welmu getting colossus tech.
MC getting a robotics facility.
Welmu moving a warp prism towards the main of MC.
MC retreating.

9:00 (P)MC 64 vs (P)Welmu 59
Welmu retakes his natural.
Welmu about to do a zealot drop in MC's main.

10:00 (P)MC 76 vs (P)Welmu 67
MC reacts to the drop.
Welmu has been supply blocked.
MC getting a twilight council.

11:00 (P)MC 84 vs (P)Welmu 78
MC hallucinating 3 phoenixes and sending them all towards Welmu's base.
MC sees everything.

12:00 (P)MC 94 vs (P)Welmu 86
MC getting a Templar archives.
MC doing an immortal drop which kills a few probes and costs nothing.

13:00 (P)MC 102 vs (P)Welmu 92
MC taking a third base.
Welmu getting colossus range an a twilight council.

14:00 (P)MC 116 vs (P)Welmu 108
MC getting lots of gateways.
Welmu going for an attack.

15:00 (P)MC 128 vs (P)Welmu 116
MC moving out and loses a few stalkers.
MC forces a recall.
Welmu taking a third base.
Welmu doing a zealot drop in the main of MC but there are cannons there.

16:00 (P)MC 149 vs (P)Welmu 125
MC getting charge.
Welmu getting a Templar archives.
MC moving toward the third base
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