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[WCS AM] RO32 Group B Premier Season 2 2013 - Page 11

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Jacmert
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada1709 Posts
July 22 2013 23:36 GMT
#201
On July 23 2013 08:30 rshawer wrote:
THese casters aren't much better than the MLG ones

How DARE you criticize Gretorp and Frodan?! :O

But seriously, I really like Gretorp and Frodan. I think they've really improved since NASL Season 2 or whenever I started watching them. I hope you grow to like them, too :D
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
July 22 2013 23:37 GMT
#202
On July 23 2013 08:36 Jacmert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 08:30 rshawer wrote:
THese casters aren't much better than the MLG ones

How DARE you criticize Gretorp and Frodan?! :O

But seriously, I really like Gretorp and Frodan. I think they've really improved since NASL Season 2 or whenever I started watching them. I hope you grow to like them, too :D

I find the NASL casters better than Axslav/Axeltoss even though I'm not a huge hater of the Ax's. The NASL casters are all very entertaining.
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Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
July 22 2013 23:37 GMT
#203
there's just nooooo way for xy to advance here.
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
Aunvilgod
Profile Joined December 2011
2653 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-22 23:39:46
July 22 2013 23:38 GMT
#204
On July 23 2013 08:24 LlamaNamedOsama wrote:
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On July 23 2013 08:20 Aunvilgod wrote:
On July 23 2013 08:17 Darkhoarse wrote:
On July 23 2013 08:14 Aunvilgod wrote:
On July 23 2013 08:12 Darkhoarse wrote:
Very back and forth again. I'm really enjoying this series. I can't help but feel that no matter who wins this series, they will both make it out.


All I am seeing is people not managing to make their marines hold position.

Marine Tank TvT is a tricky dance


It is. However I thought Polt & Taeja were better at it - they certainly were the last time I watched them play it.

On July 23 2013 08:18 plogamer wrote:
Aunvil hasn't seen marine-tank in a while.


That too. Maybe they forgot how to play proper TvT during hellbat(tle).
And before anyone says it, I am aware that this is criticizing on the highest level.


Both players have been very sharp and aggressive with marine hit squads sniping tanks that are exposed, holding position your army in a particular push from the other player could be game ending if you lose all your tanks in the blink of an eye.


But for example when Taeja almost sieged Polts natural he let his marines run off and get eaten by Polts retreating army so his tanks ended up without support. That is a rather big mistake. I think Taeja could have taken 10 or maybe 20 more marines out if his force had fought as one.

On July 23 2013 08:36 Jacmert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 08:30 rshawer wrote:
THese casters aren't much better than the MLG ones

How DARE you criticize Gretorp and Frodan?! :O

But seriously, I really like Gretorp and Frodan. I think they've really improved since NASL Season 2 or whenever I started watching them. I hope you grow to like them, too :D


Sadly most casters are either good at the game or good at talking. The ones who are good at both are Day9, Apollo and Artosis.
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dr.fahrenheit
Profile Joined January 2013
Austria101 Posts
July 22 2013 23:38 GMT
#205
TvT best mirror matchup
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 22 2013 23:38 GMT
#206
[WCS AM] Group B Premier Season 2 2013
[image loading] (Z)mOOnGLaDe vs. [image loading] (T)XY
Game 1
Map: Akilon Wastes

0:00
mOOnGLaDe spawns in the top left
XY spawns in the bottom right
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
July 22 2013 23:39 GMT
#207
On July 23 2013 08:37 Undead1993 wrote:
there's just nooooo way for xy to advance here.

I feel like the collective will of fans for such favorites as Polt, Taeja, and Moonglade would keep him from advancing, let alone the fact that it is unlikely he can beat either of the two other terrans in the group.
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
July 22 2013 23:41 GMT
#208
HOTS came out in China recently didn't it? We'll have to see how XY will play this out.

Does anyone know how good XY was when he last played? TLPD shows some games but I don't recall ever having seen him.
kiss kiss fall in love
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
July 22 2013 23:41 GMT
#209
tornado inc in my area
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Markwerf
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands3728 Posts
July 22 2013 23:41 GMT
#210
On July 23 2013 08:21 Darkhoarse wrote:
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On July 23 2013 08:20 Markwerf wrote:
I really would love to see more lategame raven usage in TvT now. Marine/tank you see the usual gas buildups lategame and just 1 techlab starport for some ravens and the occasional banshee seems awesome here. Tanks can't escape hunter seeker missile so it seems like an easy way to pick off some tanks, especially against clumped siege tanks just 2 hsm's allows you to bust through there..

I think you're about to get your wish, Polt style.


Yeah he gave a nice try at it but I think the battecruisers were a mistake imo. Transitioning from marine/tank you'll have 0-0 BCs against 3-3 marines and planet S is too hard to split the map where BCs shine. The ravens did alright for him. It should just be a very light addition I think, just 1 starport basically
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
July 22 2013 23:41 GMT
#211
On July 23 2013 08:36 Jacmert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 08:30 rshawer wrote:
THese casters aren't much better than the MLG ones

How DARE you criticize Gretorp and Frodan?! :O

But seriously, I really like Gretorp and Frodan. I think they've really improved since NASL Season 2 or whenever I started watching them. I hope you grow to like them, too :D


I haven't stayed awake to watch/listen to much NA casting but I have to say I'm very much enjoying the cast (the games them selves aren't hurting things either!).
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 22 2013 23:42 GMT
#212
On July 23 2013 08:38 Shellshock1122 wrote:
[WCS AM] Group B Premier Season 2 2013
[image loading] (Z)mOOnGLaDe vs. [image loading] (T)XY
Game 1
Map: Akilon Wastes

0:00
mOOnGLaDe spawns in the top left
XY spawns in the bottom right

1:40
rax first for XY
Drone scout from mOOnGLaDe
gas for XY

2:00
Hatch first for mOOnGLaDe
drone scout sees everything and escapes
pool for mOOnGLaDe

3:00
gas for mOOnGLaDe
reaper for XY
CC on the low ground for XY

4:00
reaper scouts the bases of mOOnGLaDe
ling speed for mOOnGLaDe
queens come out and chase the reaper away

5:00
Factory finishes up for XY
reactor for XY
2nd gas for XY
mOOnGLaDe pulled drones out of gas after starting speed
2 reapers out for XY now
siege tank for XY
bunker in the natural for XY
overlord scouts the base of XY
armory for XY
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 22 2013 23:43 GMT
#213
On July 23 2013 08:41 NovemberstOrm wrote:
tornado inc in my area

be safe. gl
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 22 2013 23:43 GMT
#214
On July 23 2013 08:42 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 08:38 Shellshock1122 wrote:
[WCS AM] Group B Premier Season 2 2013
[image loading] (Z)mOOnGLaDe vs. [image loading] (T)XY
Game 1
Map: Akilon Wastes

0:00
mOOnGLaDe spawns in the top left
XY spawns in the bottom right

1:40
rax first for XY
Drone scout from mOOnGLaDe
gas for XY

2:00
Hatch first for mOOnGLaDe
drone scout sees everything and escapes
pool for mOOnGLaDe

3:00
gas for mOOnGLaDe
reaper for XY
CC on the low ground for XY

4:00
reaper scouts the bases of mOOnGLaDe
ling speed for mOOnGLaDe
queens come out and chase the reaper away

5:00
Factory finishes up for XY
reactor for XY
2nd gas for XY
mOOnGLaDe pulled drones out of gas after starting speed
2 reapers out for XY now
siege tank for XY
bunker in the natural for XY
overlord scouts the base of XY
armory for XY

6:00
3rd base for mOOnGLaDe
factory switches to reactor after siege tank
marauder for XY
stim research for XY

7:00 56 vs 43
Starport for XY
double evo for mOOnGLaDe
hellbats for XY
3 more gas for mOOnGLaDE
game paused
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 22 2013 23:44 GMT
#215
On July 23 2013 08:41 IntoTheheart wrote:
HOTS came out in China recently didn't it? We'll have to see how XY will play this out.

Does anyone know how good XY was when he last played? TLPD shows some games but I don't recall ever having seen him.

He had some impressive marine splits in TvZ in the qualifiers but he didn't play very well in his TvT vs Demuslim
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TL+ Member
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
July 22 2013 23:45 GMT
#216
On July 23 2013 08:41 NovemberstOrm wrote:
tornado inc in my area

Duck and cover mate be safe.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
July 22 2013 23:45 GMT
#217
On July 23 2013 08:44 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 08:41 IntoTheheart wrote:
HOTS came out in China recently didn't it? We'll have to see how XY will play this out.

Does anyone know how good XY was when he last played? TLPD shows some games but I don't recall ever having seen him.

He had some impressive marine splits in TvZ in the qualifiers but he didn't play very well in his TvT vs Demuslim

Thanks for the LR!

So he might be able to take out Moonglade but his TvT against a Korean might be his failing? Last I checked, Polt and TaeJa were both pretty good (by Korean standards) at TvT.

kiss kiss fall in love
mikumegurine
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada3145 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-22 23:47:49
July 22 2013 23:47 GMT
#218
Btw How long is the stream delay for these online games?

Was just thinking, but isnt it possible to stream cheat, by PP Pausing the game and waiting a bit until you can see your opponents entire build from the stream?
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
July 22 2013 23:47 GMT
#219
Wow WTF is this build lol
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 22 2013 23:47 GMT
#220
On July 23 2013 08:43 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 08:42 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 23 2013 08:38 Shellshock1122 wrote:
[WCS AM] Group B Premier Season 2 2013
[image loading] (Z)mOOnGLaDe vs. [image loading] (T)XY
Game 1
Map: Akilon Wastes

0:00
mOOnGLaDe spawns in the top left
XY spawns in the bottom right

1:40
rax first for XY
Drone scout from mOOnGLaDe
gas for XY

2:00
Hatch first for mOOnGLaDe
drone scout sees everything and escapes
pool for mOOnGLaDe

3:00
gas for mOOnGLaDe
reaper for XY
CC on the low ground for XY

4:00
reaper scouts the bases of mOOnGLaDe
ling speed for mOOnGLaDe
queens come out and chase the reaper away

5:00
Factory finishes up for XY
reactor for XY
2nd gas for XY
mOOnGLaDe pulled drones out of gas after starting speed
2 reapers out for XY now
siege tank for XY
bunker in the natural for XY
overlord scouts the base of XY
armory for XY

6:00
3rd base for mOOnGLaDe
factory switches to reactor after siege tank
marauder for XY
stim research for XY

7:00 56 vs 43
Starport for XY
double evo for mOOnGLaDe
hellbats for XY
3 more gas for mOOnGLaDE
game paused

8:00 67 vs 60
1-1 ling upgrades for mOOnGLaDe
medivac for XY
baneling nest for mOOnGLaDe
Lair for mOOnGLaDe

9:00 77 vs 82
Hellion marauder marine 1 tank medivac push from XY
3rd CC for XY
mOOnGLaDe scouts it moving out and makes a bunch of lings
defensive banes morphing for mOOnGLaDe
XY taking out a bunch of creep tumors
tank sieges up on the natural ramp of mOOnGLaDE

10:00 73 vs 84
banelings hit marauders and tanks
XY pushes into the natural
queen in the natural is killed
drones fleeting from hellbats
4th CC for XY
+1 attack started for XY
more lings rallying out for mOOnGLaDe
natural of mOOnGLaDe is killed off
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