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TTOMZ
Profile Joined August 2009
United Kingdom156 Posts
June 30 2013 01:07 GMT
#4161
On June 30 2013 10:05 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2013 10:04 TTOMZ wrote:
On June 30 2013 10:03 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
On June 30 2013 10:01 TTOMZ wrote:
I think this Catz thing is silly and people are being silly, is Catz even considered a pro player anymore? I see him more as an acting manager you could say, playing for moral support

Coach Park is playing in this MLG right? So imagine if he'd got paired with an EG or TL player in his first game. Do you think he would have played vs them? No he's of forfeited his place. He's playing for fun and if he ever ran into an EG or TL player he would simple give them the bye

I see Catz as being in the same situation


Of course he would have played. This also does not even attempt to evaluate the actual issue. Just "its fine because Catz sucks"? That is not a good reason.


When did i say Catz sucks? I said he's not seen as a pro player anymore. He doesn't play to win major tournements be plays for moral support for his team

And its the exact same situation


Again no actual points here. Catz isnt a pro therefore its ok. That is NOT RELEVANT.


I made my point and you ignored it, Catz is most likely (i don't want to speak for him) but he most likely is not playing to win. He's playing for his team and for the enjoyment of it. When he runs into a team mate who has more chance, he gives it to them because he has no ambition to win the tournement.

But whatever you're being pathetic
9 pool you say?
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
June 30 2013 01:07 GMT
#4162
Proxy SG for sage.

Oracle bust incoming.
_SpiRaL_
Profile Joined December 2012
Afghanistan1636 Posts
June 30 2013 01:07 GMT
#4163
For the people defending Catz. What do you say to my LG-IM example.

They get all 4 semi finalists and forfeit all the rest of the games to give MVP victory? Are you ok with this? If not explain the difference.

Imagine if this started happening in tournaments regularly. Any time there was a team kill they forfeit to the better player.

This is a big deal. If its true.
Red and yellow are all I see
Darpa
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada4413 Posts
June 30 2013 01:08 GMT
#4164
Jeez, Demuslim gets the worst stage fright. There is no reason for him to lose to Theognis
"losers always whine about their best, Winners go home and fuck the prom queen"
DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
June 30 2013 01:08 GMT
#4165
On June 30 2013 10:05 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2013 10:04 TTOMZ wrote:
On June 30 2013 10:03 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
On June 30 2013 10:01 TTOMZ wrote:
I think this Catz thing is silly and people are being silly, is Catz even considered a pro player anymore? I see him more as an acting manager you could say, playing for moral support

Coach Park is playing in this MLG right? So imagine if he'd got paired with an EG or TL player in his first game. Do you think he would have played vs them? No he's of forfeited his place. He's playing for fun and if he ever ran into an EG or TL player he would simple give them the bye

I see Catz as being in the same situation


Of course he would have played. This also does not even attempt to evaluate the actual issue. Just "its fine because Catz sucks"? That is not a good reason.


When did i say Catz sucks? I said he's not seen as a pro player anymore. He doesn't play to win major tournements be plays for moral support for his team

And its the exact same situation


Again no actual points here. Catz isnt a pro therefore its ok. That is NOT RELEVANT.

Why is it a problem? Or rather, in what world is "throwing matches" avoidable?

People say rushing probes is unacceptable. I think how we handled the NaNi incident was bad. You can't force someone to try.

You say it "hurts the integrity of the tournament." How? What's the impact? What harm does it do to the tournament? There will not be sudden rash of people throwing games--there are a fairly unique set of circumstances where it's beneficial to both parties.
Liquid | SKT
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
June 30 2013 01:08 GMT
#4166
On June 30 2013 10:06 Laryleprakon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2013 10:05 Boucot wrote:
On June 30 2013 10:04 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
On June 30 2013 10:02 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
On June 30 2013 10:01 simmeh wrote:
hmm disappointed with the kane/catz situation... not good for the integrity of competition :\


Exactly. I hope someone clarifies the situation soon. If it turns out to be true. Man it looks bad for Root. Wonder what MLG will do about it? Seems an obvious disqualification scenario.


MLG won't do shit about it, they'll avoid any kind of controversy

Go ARAM


That didn't end well for them


the fuck is aram <_>
Terran & Potato Salad.
cLAN.Anax
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States2847 Posts
June 30 2013 01:08 GMT
#4167
I thought NonY retired? O_o
┬─┬___(ツ)_/¯ 彡┻━┻ I am the 4%. "I cant believe i saw ANAL backwards before i saw the word LAN." - Capped
Hryul
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Austria2609 Posts
June 30 2013 01:08 GMT
#4168
On June 30 2013 10:06 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
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On June 30 2013 10:04 Musicus wrote:
Bubbles defeated Coach Park, a 13yo and Nony... what is his plan?


To join the Dark Council with Hyvaa, Shine, Sniper, and soO.

let's not forget the dark master savior!

+ Show Spoiler +
too early?
Countdown to victory: 1 200!
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
June 30 2013 01:08 GMT
#4169
Hero scouting with MSC - does not know about the proxy SG.
smOOthMayDie
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States997 Posts
June 30 2013 01:08 GMT
#4170
why did kane walkover catz?
twitch.tv/TKSaga twitter.com/TKSagaTV YT: Tinyurl.com/TKSaga
Sein
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1811 Posts
June 30 2013 01:08 GMT
#4171
On June 30 2013 10:06 LighT. wrote:
Bubble's hitlist:
- The Fan favorite coach of EG-TL
- a 14 year old boy.
- A person who has inexplicitable groin problems.
- A fan favorite player who's competing in his first LAN in ages

Up next: The only "random" player remaining in the tournament!


Hahahahaha, this is too good.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 30 2013 01:08 GMT
#4172
On June 30 2013 10:08 cLAN.Anax wrote:
I thought NonY retired? O_o

no he only left Liquid but still plays
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sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5524 Posts
June 30 2013 01:08 GMT
#4173
Does anyone know which meaning of the word "sage" Sage's name refers to? Just out of curiosity...
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
June 30 2013 01:08 GMT
#4174
On June 30 2013 10:08 cLAN.Anax wrote:
I thought NonY retired? O_o

No. He continued training after leaving TL.
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-30 01:09:33
June 30 2013 01:08 GMT
#4175
On June 30 2013 10:06 Hopelessnoob wrote:
I Hope that Liquid or another team picks NonY up again. He played quite solidly this week. He needs some more motivation.
I believe NonY!!!

Liquid has an open-door agreement with NonY. He mentioned it in his Slasher interview.
The Rise and Fall of SlayerS -- a timeline: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=378097
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
June 30 2013 01:08 GMT
#4176
On June 30 2013 10:08 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2013 10:06 Laryleprakon wrote:
On June 30 2013 10:05 Boucot wrote:
On June 30 2013 10:04 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
On June 30 2013 10:02 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
On June 30 2013 10:01 simmeh wrote:
hmm disappointed with the kane/catz situation... not good for the integrity of competition :\


Exactly. I hope someone clarifies the situation soon. If it turns out to be true. Man it looks bad for Root. Wonder what MLG will do about it? Seems an obvious disqualification scenario.


MLG won't do shit about it, they'll avoid any kind of controversy

Go ARAM


That didn't end well for them


the fuck is aram <_>

All random, middle only.
It's a LoL thing.
Facultyadjutant
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Sweden1876 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-30 01:09:54
June 30 2013 01:09 GMT
#4177
On June 30 2013 10:06 LighT. wrote:
Bubble's hitlist:
- The Fan favorite coach of EG-TL
- a 14 year old boy.
- A person who has inexplicitable groin problems.
- A fan favorite player who's competing in his first LAN in ages

Up next: The only "random" player remaining in the tournament!


My nony T.T

bubbles man.. I can't remember someone else having gotten so many haters off the bat
#1 FAN OF TERRY THE INTERN - NONY AND IDRA NUMBER #1, EVERY DAY. AXIOM MANOR - Axiom: Ryung, Alicia, Heart and Crank under the Don TotalBiscuit and the Donnesa Genna Bain- Join the family http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=396090#2
_SpiRaL_
Profile Joined December 2012
Afghanistan1636 Posts
June 30 2013 01:09 GMT
#4178
On June 30 2013 10:07 TTOMZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2013 10:05 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
On June 30 2013 10:04 TTOMZ wrote:
On June 30 2013 10:03 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
On June 30 2013 10:01 TTOMZ wrote:
I think this Catz thing is silly and people are being silly, is Catz even considered a pro player anymore? I see him more as an acting manager you could say, playing for moral support

Coach Park is playing in this MLG right? So imagine if he'd got paired with an EG or TL player in his first game. Do you think he would have played vs them? No he's of forfeited his place. He's playing for fun and if he ever ran into an EG or TL player he would simple give them the bye

I see Catz as being in the same situation


Of course he would have played. This also does not even attempt to evaluate the actual issue. Just "its fine because Catz sucks"? That is not a good reason.


When did i say Catz sucks? I said he's not seen as a pro player anymore. He doesn't play to win major tournements be plays for moral support for his team

And its the exact same situation


Again no actual points here. Catz isnt a pro therefore its ok. That is NOT RELEVANT.


I made my point and you ignored it, Catz is most likely (i don't want to speak for him) but he most likely is not playing to win. He's playing for his team and for the enjoyment of it. When he runs into a team mate who has more chance, he gives it to them because he has no ambition to win the tournement.

But whatever you're being pathetic


He is not playing to win he is playing for fun is not a good enough reason I am sorry. This is completely unacceptable.

You guys are being pathetic. Giving someone doing something so unethical a pass "just because".
Red and yellow are all I see
Loxley
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Netherlands2480 Posts
June 30 2013 01:09 GMT
#4179
Grubby vs TheStc on MLG-B stream now.
월요 날 재미있
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5219 Posts
June 30 2013 01:09 GMT
#4180
I can't decide which game to watch... Grubby or Sage?
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