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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
June 30 2013 00:46 GMT
#3881
On June 30 2013 09:45 Daralii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2013 09:44 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Kawaiirice 2-0 Incontrol

Kawaiirice is still alive?

yea he faces winner of Nony and Bubbles next
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12535 Posts
June 30 2013 00:46 GMT
#3882
On June 30 2013 09:43 Qwyn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2013 09:41 Exarl25 wrote:
On June 30 2013 09:35 BronzeKnee wrote:
On June 30 2013 09:34 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Did anyone ever say/find out why CatZ forfeited?


Probably because Kane is his teammate and he thought Kane would have a better chance to advance?


On June 30 2013 09:37 c0ldfusion wrote:
On June 30 2013 09:35 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
On June 30 2013 09:34 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Did anyone ever say/find out why CatZ forfeited?


???

Wow. Forfeit at this stage?


Makes sense. When I saw the he was gonna be up against Kane, I figure he was just gonna throw it.

Forfeit is even more efficient - gives Kane more time to rest/prepare for the next round.



How can people say this so casually? Isn't that essentially matchfixing?


No...Because in match-fixing the match is already pre-decided and so that betters can rig profits.

If you forfeit, no matter the reason, you forfeit. That isn't rigging the system because CatZ cannot control who Kane plays next. It is up to Kane's skill. Either way Kane probably would have won so CatZ didn't waste his time.


Well he denied my joy at seeing him lose :/
No will to live, no wish to die
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
June 30 2013 00:46 GMT
#3883
On June 30 2013 09:45 Daralii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2013 09:44 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Kawaiirice 2-0 Incontrol

Kawaiirice is still alive?


Playing random too apparently.
_SpiRaL_
Profile Joined December 2012
Afghanistan1636 Posts
June 30 2013 00:46 GMT
#3884
On June 30 2013 09:45 Nick! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2013 09:44 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
Actually if CatZ really just 'let' Kane through I believe that is a really big deal and he should be banned.


Then we are thankful you have absolutely no control over the rules


Imagine an all LG-IM semi finals. They forfeit all the games and let MVP win the tournament. Is that acceptable? Why is this any different?

If it was deliberate it is really a big deal and absolutely horrendous on CatZ behalf.
Red and yellow are all I see
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 30 2013 00:46 GMT
#3885
On June 30 2013 09:44 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Kawaiirice 2-0 Incontrol

Fuck I didn't see it -_-.
I had a good night of sleep.
Qwyn
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2781 Posts
June 30 2013 00:46 GMT
#3886
Fast swarm host, gogo! Stephano style turtle! Do it, Tyrant! Alright, go for quick vipers instead.
"Think of the hysteria following the realization that they consciously consume babies and raise the dead people from their graves" - N0
MaxField
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2386 Posts
June 30 2013 00:46 GMT
#3887
argggg, that void was dead!
"Zerg, so bad it loses to hydras" IdrA.
Exarl25
Profile Joined November 2010
1887 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-30 00:47:03
June 30 2013 00:46 GMT
#3888
On June 30 2013 09:43 Qwyn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2013 09:41 Exarl25 wrote:
On June 30 2013 09:35 BronzeKnee wrote:
On June 30 2013 09:34 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Did anyone ever say/find out why CatZ forfeited?


Probably because Kane is his teammate and he thought Kane would have a better chance to advance?


On June 30 2013 09:37 c0ldfusion wrote:
On June 30 2013 09:35 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
On June 30 2013 09:34 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Did anyone ever say/find out why CatZ forfeited?


???

Wow. Forfeit at this stage?


Makes sense. When I saw the he was gonna be up against Kane, I figure he was just gonna throw it.

Forfeit is even more efficient - gives Kane more time to rest/prepare for the next round.



How can people say this so casually? Isn't that essentially matchfixing?


No...Because in match-fixing the match is already pre-decided and so that betters can rig profits.

If you forfeit, no matter the reason, you forfeit. That isn't rigging the system because CatZ cannot control who Kane plays next. It is up to Kane's skill. Either way Kane probably would have won so CatZ didn't waste his time.


Match fixing is not always to do with gambling. There are plenty of other problems with it.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
June 30 2013 00:47 GMT
#3889
On June 30 2013 09:46 c0ldfusion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2013 09:45 Daralii wrote:
On June 30 2013 09:44 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Kawaiirice 2-0 Incontrol

Kawaiirice is still alive?


Playing random too apparently.

race picking T or Z, not playing random
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TL+ Member
Qwyn
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2781 Posts
June 30 2013 00:47 GMT
#3890
On June 30 2013 09:46 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2013 09:43 Qwyn wrote:
On June 30 2013 09:41 Exarl25 wrote:
On June 30 2013 09:35 BronzeKnee wrote:
On June 30 2013 09:34 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Did anyone ever say/find out why CatZ forfeited?


Probably because Kane is his teammate and he thought Kane would have a better chance to advance?


On June 30 2013 09:37 c0ldfusion wrote:
On June 30 2013 09:35 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
On June 30 2013 09:34 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Did anyone ever say/find out why CatZ forfeited?


???

Wow. Forfeit at this stage?


Makes sense. When I saw the he was gonna be up against Kane, I figure he was just gonna throw it.

Forfeit is even more efficient - gives Kane more time to rest/prepare for the next round.



How can people say this so casually? Isn't that essentially matchfixing?


No...Because in match-fixing the match is already pre-decided and so that betters can rig profits.

If you forfeit, no matter the reason, you forfeit. That isn't rigging the system because CatZ cannot control who Kane plays next. It is up to Kane's skill. Either way Kane probably would have won so CatZ didn't waste his time.


Well he denied my joy at seeing him lose :/


Wowowow, manner up! Gogogo CatZ .
"Think of the hysteria following the realization that they consciously consume babies and raise the dead people from their graves" - N0
Erraa93
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia891 Posts
June 30 2013 00:47 GMT
#3891
Everyone trying to find a reason to pin it on catz. Let it be, wait for his answer if he gives one. And leave it at that
Nick!
Profile Joined March 2011
Scotland701 Posts
June 30 2013 00:47 GMT
#3892
TB just questioned him using it vs overlords? Oh god.
deus.machinarum
Profile Joined September 2011
Austria658 Posts
June 30 2013 00:47 GMT
#3893
On June 30 2013 09:45 Nick! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2013 09:44 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
Actually if CatZ really just 'let' Kane through I believe that is a really big deal and he should be banned.


Then we are thankful you have absolutely no control over the rules


Agreed. A team manager forfeiting to let an actual team member advance is not a big deal at all.

CatZ wouldn't be doing it if it had been in the (semi)finals.
Nothing worth having comes easy.
Bibbit
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada5377 Posts
June 30 2013 00:47 GMT
#3894
Overlords are armored or no?
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
June 30 2013 00:47 GMT
#3895
Good to see Stats winning.
Looks like Stats vs Suppy is a incoming match up in a few hours.
Go Stats!!
HotGlueGun
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1409 Posts
June 30 2013 00:47 GMT
#3896
Collosi vs Hydra R.I.P JD
Don't hoot with the Owls at night if you cant soar with the Eagles at dawn.
Facultyadjutant
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Sweden1876 Posts
June 30 2013 00:47 GMT
#3897
On June 30 2013 09:44 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Kawaiirice 2-0 Incontrol


Incontrol had a great run so far tough, but PvZ is PvZ
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Nick!
Profile Joined March 2011
Scotland701 Posts
June 30 2013 00:47 GMT
#3898
On June 30 2013 09:47 Bibbit wrote:
Overlords are armored or no?


Yeah lol
_SpiRaL_
Profile Joined December 2012
Afghanistan1636 Posts
June 30 2013 00:47 GMT
#3899
On June 30 2013 09:46 Exarl25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2013 09:43 Qwyn wrote:
On June 30 2013 09:41 Exarl25 wrote:
On June 30 2013 09:35 BronzeKnee wrote:
On June 30 2013 09:34 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Did anyone ever say/find out why CatZ forfeited?


Probably because Kane is his teammate and he thought Kane would have a better chance to advance?


On June 30 2013 09:37 c0ldfusion wrote:
On June 30 2013 09:35 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
On June 30 2013 09:34 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Did anyone ever say/find out why CatZ forfeited?


???

Wow. Forfeit at this stage?


Makes sense. When I saw the he was gonna be up against Kane, I figure he was just gonna throw it.

Forfeit is even more efficient - gives Kane more time to rest/prepare for the next round.



How can people say this so casually? Isn't that essentially matchfixing?


No...Because in match-fixing the match is already pre-decided and so that betters can rig profits.

If you forfeit, no matter the reason, you forfeit. That isn't rigging the system because CatZ cannot control who Kane plays next. It is up to Kane's skill. Either way Kane probably would have won so CatZ didn't waste his time.


Match fixing is not always to do with gambling. There are plenty of other problems with it.


Of course its not only to do with gambling. its do with the integrity of the tournament/sport.
Red and yellow are all I see
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
June 30 2013 00:47 GMT
#3900
On June 30 2013 09:46 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2013 09:44 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Kawaiirice 2-0 Incontrol

Fuck I didn't see it -_-.


Not sure if Kawaiirice was practicing all three races seriously, but his performance is pretty impressive so far.

He even dropped T-funk in winners.
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