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Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
June 25 2013 17:56 GMT
#621
On June 26 2013 02:55 ntssauce wrote:
imagine tefel now wins in the most amazing macro games

how bout no?
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
June 25 2013 17:56 GMT
#622
On June 26 2013 02:55 Grumbels wrote:
what? I looked away for ten minutes after Mvp had 5 scv's and 50 less supply.


Missed the throw of the century
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Waise
Profile Joined June 2013
3165 Posts
June 25 2013 17:56 GMT
#623
MVP definitely deserves a lot of credit for game 1. it was a horrible throw, but MVP still made it a point to keep his mechanics clean and make the right decisions. it's not like the throw happened all at once - it was more like tefel messes up, MVP takes advantage, tefel messes up more (probably because of nerves from MVP's confident play in the face of defeat), MVP takes advantage again, rinse and repeat

in short - tefel's mistakes are obviously the only reason MVP was able to win, but a lesser player than MVP wouldn't have been able to snowball it like he did
arkedos
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1426 Posts
June 25 2013 17:56 GMT
#624
hmm what already began at WCS season 1 seems to be confirming itself, Mvp seems on a rise again.
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packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
June 25 2013 17:56 GMT
#625
On June 26 2013 02:55 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2013 02:54 packrat386 wrote:
wats happening. I was going to do LR and now in a stange twist of fate I'm the one that needs it

5 scvs to 50 drones, 3 bases to 1, tefel spent 10 minutes slamming roaches into marauder/tank and successfully lost from that position.


nono I meant game 2. Thanks though
dreaming of a sunny day
Clazziquai10
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore1949 Posts
June 25 2013 17:56 GMT
#626
I think this is a bigger throw than Innovation vs Soulkey. In fact, I think this is probably a bigger throw than any game I've seen in my 3+ years of SC2 and 2000+ ladder games XD
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
June 25 2013 17:56 GMT
#627
Are there dates for the european and global finals yet?
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
June 25 2013 17:57 GMT
#628
So from what I understand, Tefel was up 50 drones to 5 scvs and mass roaches on top of mvp with double the supply. Apollo doubted Mvp, and therefore Mvp won.
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
June 25 2013 17:57 GMT
#629
does tefel even get ling speed? Oo;
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
June 25 2013 17:57 GMT
#630
On June 26 2013 02:56 arkedos wrote:
hmm what already began at WCS season 1 seems to be confirming itself, Mvp seems on a rise again.

MVP don't need to rise, he's always at the top. He just grows tried of winning occasionally and lets someone else have some money because it'd be boring if it was just him.
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Ph4ZeD
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom753 Posts
June 25 2013 17:58 GMT
#631
On June 26 2013 02:56 Clazziquai10 wrote:
I think this is a bigger throw than Innovation vs Soulkey. In fact, I think this is probably a bigger throw than any game I've seen in my 3+ years of SC2 and 2000+ ladder games XD


Lol lets not get too excited. Innovation had to win one game out of four, plus actually has the natural ability to be the very best player. Tefel is fundamentally a worse player than MVP and threw away a huge lead in one game.
Glubschauge
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria1216 Posts
June 25 2013 17:58 GMT
#632
On June 26 2013 02:57 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2013 02:56 arkedos wrote:
hmm what already began at WCS season 1 seems to be confirming itself, Mvp seems on a rise again.

MVP don't need to rise, he's always at the top. He just grows tried of winning occasionally and lets someone else have some money because it'd be boring if it was just him.


i think you mistake mvp for nestea
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
June 25 2013 17:58 GMT
#633
On June 26 2013 02:54 A_J_K wrote:
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On June 26 2013 02:54 Ph4ZeD wrote:
On June 26 2013 02:52 petrox wrote:
On June 26 2013 02:50 Panckaes wrote:
toss or zerg could not possibly comeback from that no matter how good they are. gogo mules


How many other terrans have pulled off comebacks like Mvp has against Innovation and now Tefel


I'm sorry, that wasn't an amazing "comeback". It was an amazing throw. If you get really far behind, then your opponent donates armies to you, its a throw, not a comeback.



Why not both???


100% agree, Tefel's brain farting alowed for MVP to make his comeback.
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
June 25 2013 17:58 GMT
#634
On June 26 2013 02:57 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2013 02:56 arkedos wrote:
hmm what already began at WCS season 1 seems to be confirming itself, Mvp seems on a rise again.

MVP don't need to rise, he's always at the top. He just grows tried of winning occasionally and lets someone else have some money because it'd be boring if it was just him.

MVP understands that for him to be able to make money in the future there needs to be at least the suggestion of actual competition.
Panckaes
Profile Joined April 2013
United States5 Posts
June 25 2013 17:58 GMT
#635
On June 26 2013 02:56 BlackCompany wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2013 02:53 Panckaes wrote:
On June 26 2013 02:51 FeyFey wrote:
On June 26 2013 02:50 Panckaes wrote:
toss or zerg could not possibly comeback from that no matter how good they are. gogo mules


Zerg and toss usually never go down to 5 workers in the first place, so they don't need to comeback from something they never end up in.



True, I've never seen a blue flame run by wipeout most of the drones/probes, or a hell bat drop during a professional game.


Someone is really butt-hurt about his losses in bronze league to some terran players


Not at all, MVP traded perfectly and tefel just walked units into tanks. What bothers me is wiping out someone's econ and it not actually wiping out their econ. It's a bit broken, like say...prenerf infestors.
ref4
Profile Joined March 2012
2933 Posts
June 25 2013 17:58 GMT
#636
damn Tefel should go try out for the New York Yankees

he got dem goooood throwin' arms
revoN
Profile Joined February 2010
Japan804 Posts
June 25 2013 17:58 GMT
#637
On June 26 2013 02:53 Zane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2013 02:52 Assirra wrote:
On June 26 2013 02:50 revoN wrote:
No need to praise MVP since it was Tefel's game to lose. Had it been against a Code S calibre player it would be a different story.

Yea it's not like he did the same against the winner of the WCS finals or anything.

Yeah, Mvp definitely isn't known for this kind of comebacks. It's probably just luck.

There's a difference between a semi-decent EU player and a Code S player (and a champion at that). MVP doesn't look as good here as when he played Bogus. Noone said anything about MVP being lucky or that he is not capable of a comeback...
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Rainfall7711
Profile Joined December 2011
329 Posts
June 25 2013 17:59 GMT
#638
On June 26 2013 02:52 Assirra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2013 02:50 revoN wrote:
No need to praise MVP since it was Tefel's game to lose. Had it been against a Code S calibre player it would be a different story.

Yea it's not like he did the same against the winner of the WCS finals or anything.


Which is not only totally irrelevant to this game, Innovation also threw it by playing an inferior composition and getting cocky. Then MVP wins a big fight late on. It was Tefel and Innovations to lose, and they both did.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
June 25 2013 17:59 GMT
#639
That guy sure likes his roaches.
garbanzo
Profile Joined October 2009
United States4046 Posts
June 25 2013 17:59 GMT
#640
On June 26 2013 02:55 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2013 02:54 Ph4ZeD wrote:
On June 26 2013 02:52 petrox wrote:
On June 26 2013 02:50 Panckaes wrote:
toss or zerg could not possibly comeback from that no matter how good they are. gogo mules


How many other terrans have pulled off comebacks like Mvp has against Innovation and now Tefel


I'm sorry, that wasn't an amazing "comeback". It was an amazing throw. If you get really far behind, then your opponent donates armies to you, its a throw, not a comeback.


Just the fact that Mvp played absolutely PERFECTLY is extremely impressive. Tefel threw, yes. But the way Mvp played was absolutely mindblowing. If he hadn't, he'd have lost.

I don't find anything impressive with how Mvp just continued playing. He didn't do anything special. I am significantly more impressed with how Tefel refused to reconsider the situation he was in.
Even during difficult times, when I sat down to play the game, there were times where it felt like god has descended down and played [for me].
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