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Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
May 23 2013 09:48 GMT
#621
On May 23 2013 18:46 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2013 18:45 Big J wrote:
disappointed in that series. Two BO-wins so far

What?? How on earth the first game was a "build order win"?


3CC with a drop and no defense at all gave Innovation a 20-40supply lead in the midgame. It was just a 10min death animation, as Symbol refused to make a mistake.
StarscreamG1
Profile Joined February 2011
Portugal1653 Posts
May 23 2013 09:48 GMT
#622
Since when 2 rax vs 6 pool is a build order win?! I can't believe I read this...
las91
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States5080 Posts
May 23 2013 09:48 GMT
#623
On May 23 2013 18:46 baeric wrote:
What the heck happend? already 2-0? is Innovation a wizard? can somebody please give me a quick recap


Game 1: Innovation outmacro's in a macro game, constant aggression once he hit about 160 supply.
Game 2: 6 pool vs proxy 12-12 rax on star station, excellent barracks placement + poor decision making from symbol.
2-0 for Innovation atm.
In Inca we trust
bluQ
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany1724 Posts
May 23 2013 09:48 GMT
#624
On May 23 2013 18:46 blade55555 wrote:
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On May 23 2013 18:45 Qikz wrote:
Just imagine if for one second Symbol had checked that watch tower. He would have killed the rax.


He should have been suspicious of it considering his drone went by the scv that early. No good terran scouts that early with an scv was a huge giveaway imo that it was a proxy 2 rax or proxy rax at least.

This.
www.twitch.tv/bluquh (PoE, Starbow, HS)
greatZERG
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia755 Posts
May 23 2013 09:48 GMT
#625
Give build order to drone = build order loss

Only way to win is to afk
stu >)
Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
May 23 2013 09:48 GMT
#626
hmm, maybe if Bogus uses the break to drink a bottle of Vodka...
Draconicfire
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2562 Posts
May 23 2013 09:48 GMT
#627
What song is this?
@Drayxs | Drayxs.221 | Drayxs#1802
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
May 23 2013 09:48 GMT
#628
On May 23 2013 18:48 tozi wrote:
Regardless, this series sucks so far.


It's already better than the other semi!
gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
May 23 2013 09:48 GMT
#629
On May 23 2013 18:45 Big J wrote:
disappointed in that series. Two BO-wins so far

Bad Austrian, bad :D.
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kubiks
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1328 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-23 09:50:27
May 23 2013 09:49 GMT
#630
On May 23 2013 18:46 DJHelium wrote:
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On May 23 2013 18:44 Khaldor wrote:
Innovation got a build order win, game 2 is not nearly as big of a deal as people in here make it out to be


If Symbol realizes that Innovation is going 2 rax, he can deny the production and just win. It's not a sure BO win.


Indeed not a Bo win, but once symbol made the mistake to send his ling across, it was over. Innovation didn't sweat too much in this game
And that's funny that people think he's not cheesable because he holded that. I want to see him holding the usual TSL zerg bull**it, with roaches, nyuds, drops and banelings :p
Juanald you're my hero I miss you -> best troll ever on TL <3
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
May 23 2013 09:49 GMT
#631
On May 23 2013 18:47 negativedge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2013 18:46 TheDwf wrote:
On May 23 2013 18:45 Big J wrote:
disappointed in that series. Two BO-wins so far

What?? How on earth the first game was a "build order win"?


easy. macro build against bogus = auto loss. ergo, build order win ^_^

OK, this explanation makes sense. (;
DustbinBieber
Profile Joined April 2013
France276 Posts
May 23 2013 09:49 GMT
#632
On May 23 2013 18:43 Jerom wrote:
The scary thing is that Innovation doesn't just look OP when playing macro, he also is invincible when cheesing.

I think he might be the best player ever (yes, I'm sorry for that :D)


Wow, chill out.
Though it's true I haven't seen such utter domination in one match-up by anyone on SC2 yet.
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
May 23 2013 09:49 GMT
#633
On May 23 2013 18:47 TheDwf wrote:
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On May 23 2013 18:45 Breach_hu wrote:
On May 23 2013 18:44 Kreb wrote:
On May 23 2013 18:41 Breach_hu wrote:
he decides to send the drones inot the main and lings to the rax. lol even a lowmaster knows, send back drones to mine and kill terrans economy. what the heck.

Well, he could fly his CC to the bunker location if he allows it to get up. He'll get some SCVs killed but mineralwalking SCVs takes a long time to kill for slowlings. He'd lose a lot mining time having to fly the CC across the map though, not sure who'd come out ahead then.


If Symbol would send his drones back to home asap, then he will be ahead for sure.

Not at all. If he suicides his lings on SCVs he then loses to Marines because he has nothing at home (or he's stuck on 6 drones building lings while Terran has the MULE working). He had only bad moves to make because it was a build order loss.


Say he scouts the SCV going to build rax. He then sends a couple of lings to deal with the building SCVs while the rest attacks the main base of Innovation. Does he win? (honest question)
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5356 Posts
May 23 2013 09:49 GMT
#634
On May 23 2013 18:48 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2013 18:46 TheDwf wrote:
On May 23 2013 18:45 Big J wrote:
disappointed in that series. Two BO-wins so far

What?? How on earth the first game was a "build order win"?


3CC with a drop and no defense at all gave Innovation a 20-40supply lead in the midgame. It was just a 10min death animation, as Symbol refused to make a mistake.

Lol Symbol made 90 drones on 4 bases.
¯\_(シ)_/¯
ThomasR
Profile Joined January 2012
764 Posts
May 23 2013 09:49 GMT
#635
On May 23 2013 18:48 greatZERG wrote:
Give build order to drone = build order loss

Only way to win is to afk

can someone translate?
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-23 09:50:05
May 23 2013 09:49 GMT
#636
On May 23 2013 18:45 Big J wrote:
disappointed in that series. Two BO-wins so far

lol bo win.... first game was macro game and second it wasnt bo win aswell, it was his perfect placement of the 2 raxes also the i go cc first mindgame ....


u cant hold 6pool with 2 rax without this gosu placement
yo
bluQ
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany1724 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-23 09:50:12
May 23 2013 09:49 GMT
#637
On May 23 2013 18:48 StarscreamG1 wrote:
Since when 2 rax vs 6 pool is a build order win?! I can't believe I read this...

Since ... ever?
edit: so many ppl try to get into innovations pants ... i doubt he is gay guys, dont try so hard.
www.twitch.tv/bluquh (PoE, Starbow, HS)
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50110 Posts
May 23 2013 09:49 GMT
#638
On May 23 2013 18:47 EpiK wrote:
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On May 23 2013 18:44 mememolly wrote:
was Innovation good in BW?

he was inconsistent in proleague with a few memorable tvz games but he never did well in individual leagues. NO one would've predicted him to dominate after the transition to sc2.


I did, so did a few others, also he had more memorable TvTs than TvZs and his rivalry with stats was also notable.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
May 23 2013 09:49 GMT
#639
On May 23 2013 18:48 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2013 18:46 TheDwf wrote:
On May 23 2013 18:45 Big J wrote:
disappointed in that series. Two BO-wins so far

What?? How on earth the first game was a "build order win"?


3CC with a drop and no defense at all gave Innovation a 20-40supply lead in the midgame. It was just a 10min death animation, as Symbol refused to make a mistake.


He even build tanks because he wanted to be save against roaches/roachbusts. Don't be silly. Symbol was equally greedy and it went very well for him. BoguS outplayed him and broodlords were a bad choice.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
ppshchik
Profile Joined September 2010
United States862 Posts
May 23 2013 09:49 GMT
#640
On May 23 2013 18:45 RowdierBob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2013 18:44 mememolly wrote:
was Innovation good in BW?


He was good without being great. A solid A team player but no star.


Probably 3rd best Terran towards the end of Broodwar. No shame when you're the best after Fantasy and Flash. Leta and Sea are overrated by their fans in TL.
Legends never die... they end up working in McDonalds.
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