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Poll: Head?Mvp & Socke (29) 43% Mvp & DIMAGA (22) 32% Mvp & Siw (12) 18% Socke & DIMAGA (2) 3% Socke & Siw (2) 3% DIMAGA & Siw (1) 1% 68 total votes Your vote: Head? (Vote): Mvp & Socke
(Vote): Mvp & Siw
(Vote): Mvp & DIMAGA
(Vote): Socke & DIMAGA
(Vote): Socke & Siw
(Vote): DIMAGA & Siw
Poll: Heart?Mvp & DIMAGA (27) 36% Mvp & Socke (21) 28% Socke & DIMAGA (21) 28% Mvp & Siw (6) 8% Socke & Siw (0) 0% 75 total votes Your vote: Heart? (Vote): Mvp & Socke
(Vote): Mvp & Siw
(Vote): Mvp & DIMAGA
(Vote): Socke & DIMAGA
(Vote): Socke & Siw
Poll: Best Match-up?Mvp & Siw (20) 63% DIMAGA & Socke (12) 38% 32 total votes Your vote: Best Match-up? (Vote): Mvp & Siw
(Vote): DIMAGA & Socke
Poll: Will the King of Wings advance?Yes! (42) 82% No! (9) 18% 51 total votes Your vote: Will the King of Wings advance? (Vote): Yes!
(Vote): No!
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MVP's got it.
Socke probably in 2nd, hoping for Dimaga though
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I think people is going to be very surprised by Siw
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Havn't seen Mvp play in HotS at all, how is he doing?
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On May 01 2013 05:45 Ammoth wrote:
Havn't seen Mvp play in HotS at all, how is he doing?
his last games were 2-0 vs MarineKing and 1-2 vs BBoongBBoong in the Asian Indoor games qualifiers but they were off stream so not 100% sure.
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go MVP , our EU hope
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On May 01 2013 05:45 Ammoth wrote:
Havn't seen Mvp play in HotS at all, how is he doing?
Looking good, probably could have powered back into code S if he stayed in Korea. However, not good enough to the point where I'd expect him to make another deep run in code S. Then again, MVP has won the gsl before when he didn't really look like he'd make the ro8. The guy just knows how to win.
It could be hard for him with the lag in this group, but I'd still consider him the favorite.
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MVP is playing from Korea right? If so then I expect him to lose
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Expecting some heavy mech play from Mvp, people will most likely use and abuse the fact that Mvp is playing from Korea with high latency, against him. Hopefully Mvp has figured out really safe and solid builds to hold any possible weird all-in or micro intensive strat.
Cheering for Mvp and Dimaga to win.
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Mvp playing from Korea is probably going result in him being knocked out of this. The EU guys are already capable of taking games off him and the latency issue is significant.
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Someone official please tell me if Mvp is playing from Korea. Now! I still can't believe he's trying this.
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Mvp going dooooown 
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Well, at least with this group format Socke can't get super unlucky ties. Now he should just not mess up force fields and he makes it
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Predictions
Mvp 2 - 0 Siw
DIMAGA 2 - 1 Socke
Mvp 2 - 0 DIMAGA
Siw 0 - 2 Socke
DIMAGA 2 - 1 Socke
Mvp and Socke advance!
Let's go Mvp!!
The King cannot fall here!!
The King will win EU!!
Go Mvp!! :D
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I wish they'd show the players more often i had to look it up on liquipedia to see if this tourney was online or offline
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On May 01 2013 07:54 blagoonga123 wrote:
I wish they'd show the players more often i had to look it up on liquipedia to see if this tourney was online or offline
It's online until the ro16 I think?
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On May 01 2013 07:56 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2013 07:54 blagoonga123 wrote:
I wish they'd show the players more often i had to look it up on liquipedia to see if this tourney was online or offline It's online until the ro16 I think?
yep. ro16+ is at their studio but ro32 all online
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Funnily enough, I think Siw might have a chance of beating Mvp, but I don't think he can beat either Socke or Dimaga =)
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ohh and even after checking liquipedia i still got it wrong lmao
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Someone said in the other thread he is in Germany with MC for these games, not sure how accurate that is but hopefully true!
Gogo Mvp staying up all night for this!
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Do we know for sure if Mvp is in Europe or in Korea for this one ?
He should take first place anyway. Would be a pretty big upset if he didn't.
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if mvp doesn't lose here he'll win wcs eu
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On May 01 2013 17:24 Laryleprakon wrote:
Someone said in the other thread he is in Germany with MC for these games, not sure how accurate that is but hopefully true!
Gogo Mvp staying up all night for this!
I hope this is true. I really don't give him much of a chance if he is playing from Korea. 
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On May 01 2013 19:33 Ysellian wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2013 17:24 Laryleprakon wrote:
Someone said in the other thread he is in Germany with MC for these games, not sure how accurate that is but hopefully true!
Gogo Mvp staying up all night for this! I hope this is true. I really don't give him much of a chance if he is playing from Korea.
I don't know which thread he is speaking about, but I have not heard of anything like this. It's speculated whether Mvp will move to where MC is staying once the Ro16 starts.
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I cant believe Mvp is playing from Korea. How can such a smart player make such a bad decision?
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On May 01 2013 19:50 Bowzar wrote:I cant believe Mvp is playing from Korea. How can such a smart player make such a bad decision?
I don't think he is
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On May 01 2013 19:56 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2013 19:50 Bowzar wrote:I cant believe Mvp is playing from Korea. How can such a smart player make such a bad decision? I don't think he is
do you have any info? there was a post before but no source
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On May 01 2013 20:02 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2013 19:56 Dodgin wrote:On May 01 2013 19:50 Bowzar wrote:I cant believe Mvp is playing from Korea. How can such a smart player make such a bad decision? I don't think he is do you have any info? there was a post before but no source
nope no source, just going off of what was posted.
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i have a feeling the poster may have mistaken Mvp for MMA (who will be in germany) since i've seen nowhere else that Mvp will be in EU hrmm
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I doubt it matters if Mvp has lag for this group, it looks very easy for him.
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On May 01 2013 19:50 Bowzar wrote:I cant believe Mvp is playing from Korea. How can such a smart player make such a bad decision?
Even if he loses he can still play in challenger and go back up to premier.
It is a risk but not as much consequences as it maybe should be.
I'll hope that "Europe holds".
And that would reiterate the statement that there is no easy grab of points or money to be gained in Europe.
Commitments need to be forced on teams and players - and already started with MC and MMA.
Granted koreans need to play at like 1-4 am but that is not stopping a proper gaming nerd.
I wish the same for WCS america .. maybe we need to send some players over 
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On May 01 2013 20:03 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2013 20:02 opterown wrote:On May 01 2013 19:56 Dodgin wrote:On May 01 2013 19:50 Bowzar wrote:I cant believe Mvp is playing from Korea. How can such a smart player make such a bad decision? I don't think he is do you have any info? there was a post before but no source nope no source, just going off of what was posted.
I feel like if he was in Cologne with MC there would have been at least a tweet about it or something and from what I know there is nothing.
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Is MVP playing from korea aka with lag?
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Gonna predict MVP and Socke to advance. I do think this group is pretty closely matched it really depends on if anyone can beat MVP, that will change a lot about the how the group goes.
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If Mvp isn't playing from EU, then he'll lose.
Calling it now, I don't want to be, but Mvp won't advance if he's playing from Korea.
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If MVP is truly playing from KR, anything can happen here. At the very least he should have prepared builds/starts that are less micro intensive.
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Mvp is playing from germany.
Anyway, hes done as far as being mechanically the best player or being top 5 in the world but he still should make ro4 minimum in wcs eu.
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Mvp will not play his Ro32 matches from Germany. He is currently still in Korea.
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On May 02 2013 00:41 Shawngood wrote:
Mvp will not play his Ro32 matches from Germany. He is currently still in Korea.
On May 02 2013 00:33 LighT. wrote:
Mvp is playing from germany.
Anyway, hes done as far as being mechanically the best player or being top 5 in the world but he still should make ro4 minimum in wcs eu.
So who is right?
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On May 02 2013 00:42 Benjamin99 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 00:41 Shawngood wrote:
Mvp will not play his Ro32 matches from Germany. He is currently still in Korea. Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 00:33 LighT. wrote:
Mvp is playing from germany.
Anyway, hes done as far as being mechanically the best player or being top 5 in the world but he still should make ro4 minimum in wcs eu.
So who is right?
Well, Shawn is the ESL admin, while Light is Light.
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My bet is on the "Headadmin Intel Extreme Masters SC2 & LoL", who is also from/living in Germany.
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Looking forward what kind of cheeses/alli-ins Mvp is gonna do!
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On May 02 2013 00:43 grs wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 00:42 Benjamin99 wrote:On May 02 2013 00:41 Shawngood wrote:
Mvp will not play his Ro32 matches from Germany. He is currently still in Korea. On May 02 2013 00:33 LighT. wrote:
Mvp is playing from germany.
Anyway, hes done as far as being mechanically the best player or being top 5 in the world but he still should make ro4 minimum in wcs eu.
So who is right? Well, Shawn is the ESL admin, while Light is Light.
hehe ok:D
Anyway Siw going to surprise you all. Go Siw!
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Mvp probably won't be able to pull it off from Korea. :d But I'd love to be pleasantly surprised.
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Belgica34432 Posts
King needs another championship
gogo Mvp
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The delay latency from Europe to Korea is overrated, it's a second maximum and I don't think the other 3 players are actually good enough to take full advantage of that.
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On May 02 2013 00:59 Mackus wrote:
The delay latency from Europe to Korea is overrated, it's a second maximum and I don't think the other 3 players are actually good enough to take full advantage of that.
lol, a second is overrated? a second latency is ridiculously difficult to micro with.
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On May 02 2013 01:04 droppanda wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 00:59 Mackus wrote:
The delay latency from Europe to Korea is overrated, it's a second maximum and I don't think the other 3 players are actually good enough to take full advantage of that. lol, a second is overrated? a second latency is ridiculously difficult to micro with.
Hellbats and Widow mines require micro? :D
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Dimaga taking on MVP?
You'd sooner see incontrol win WCS.
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rooting for 3 non-koreans. Hope mvp loses.
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rottis predictions are very fucking ballsy (read stupid).
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Mvp's only merit? "Took a game off Flash in BW". C'mon WCS EU people, c'mon!
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On May 02 2013 00:59 Mackus wrote:
The delay latency from Europe to Korea is overrated, it's a second maximum and I don't think the other 3 players are actually good enough to take full advantage of that.
In-battle micro becomes nigh impossible and its just a huge distraction overall, making it difficult to focus on your game.
Proper planning and just getting used to the delay can make up for a lot though.
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On May 02 2013 01:07 namste wrote:
Mvp's only merit? "Took a game off Flash in BW". C'mon WCS EU people, c'mon!
I snorted a bit at that. >_>
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On May 02 2013 01:07 namste wrote:
Mvp's only merit? "Took a game off Flash in BW". C'mon WCS EU people, c'mon!
There is humour, and then there is blasphemy!
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OMG I WON WITH BCS IN A 55 MIN GAME JUST IN TIME FOR THE GAMES YES!
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In TvP 1sec delay is deadly. No chance againts decent EU toss.
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The player card has frozen haha.
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On May 02 2013 01:11 Arceus wrote:
no in-game sound?
Doesn't seem like it. TT
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On May 02 2013 01:11 Arceus wrote:
no in-game sound?
Yeah i hate this =/
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ESL we want in game sound ! :d
ToD is mindgaming himself with the mindgames btw haha
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aww i was hoping for colossus drops
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Siw should've let the drop start, instead of just scaring it away there.
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lag obviously impacting mvp's play :/
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Mvp clearly suffering from the lag, but he got the 3rd so who cares? Heh.
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mvp is playing from germany ^^
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On May 02 2013 01:19 Tsubbi wrote:
mvp is playing from germany ^^
any source?
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On May 02 2013 01:19 Tsubbi wrote:
mvp is playing from germany ^^
wut?!
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On May 02 2013 01:19 Tsubbi wrote:
mvp is playing from germany ^^
You know for sure? That would be cool.
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god this observing is not optimal.
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The macro cannot be stopped
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On May 02 2013 01:19 Tsubbi wrote:
mvp is playing from germany ^^
Then standing in a storm for its full duration was just plain bad :D
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Mvp is NOT playing from Germany, he is playing from Korea.
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Poll: Recommend Mvp vs Siw Game 1?Yes! (11) 79% If you have time. (2) 14% Nope! (1) 7% 14 total votes Your vote: Recommend Mvp vs Siw Game 1? (Vote): Yes!
(Vote): If you have time.
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M
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Though observor speed was interesting.
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MVP is just sooo much better
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Not a good map for Protoss. Siw playing well. MVP just a bit better
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MMA is playing from germany, nothing was said about Mvp
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Storms are so dangerous with this delay.
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On May 02 2013 01:23 Benjamin99 wrote:
Not a good map for Protoss. Siw playing well. MVP just a bit better
A bit?
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It just doesn't feel the same when he is not playing some big korean name...
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On May 02 2013 01:07 namste wrote:
Mvp's only merit? "Took a game off Flash in BW". C'mon WCS EU people, c'mon!
It was "Took a map off Flash in BW with Battlecruisers". It's humor obviously.
Concerning the game : obs speed was a nice little touch. But, as anticipated, mvp is on another level.
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I love how people are saying "MVP is in Germany", "He's in Korea" but never follow up with any proof.
Which one is it now?
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where on earth does MVP play this game? MVP in EU right now? Korean should suffer great delay problem when playing on EU server.
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On May 02 2013 01:26 Bagi wrote:
I love how people are saying "MVP is in Germany", "He's in Korea" but never follow up with any proof.
Which one is it now?
 LG-IMMvp
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So one sided the first game.
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On May 02 2013 01:26 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 01:26 Bagi wrote:
I love how people are saying "MVP is in Germany", "He's in Korea" but never follow up with any proof.
Which one is it now? LG-IMMvp
he should be from an EU country though
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Why does everyone let them koreans do their macro into GG
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On May 02 2013 01:26 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 01:26 Bagi wrote:
I love how people are saying "MVP is in Germany", "He's in Korea" but never follow up with any proof.
Which one is it now? LG-IMMvp
You sure he's not German?
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On May 02 2013 01:28 Yunarc wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 01:26 Shellshock1122 wrote:On May 02 2013 01:26 Bagi wrote:
I love how people are saying "MVP is in Germany", "He's in Korea" but never follow up with any proof.
Which one is it now? LG-IMMvp he should be from an EU country though
Australia!
Mvp could crash on my couch for free if he'd represent Austria in return.
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No wait, he's obviously Polish as Tarson adopted him.
Edit: And by "adopted" I mean abducted.
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On May 02 2013 01:26 Bagi wrote:
I love how people are saying "MVP is in Germany", "He's in Korea" but never follow up with any proof.
Which one is it now?
ESLshawn staff member confirmed MVP is playing from korea as far i know.
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On May 02 2013 01:28 Yunarc wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 01:26 Shellshock1122 wrote:On May 02 2013 01:26 Bagi wrote:
I love how people are saying "MVP is in Germany", "He's in Korea" but never follow up with any proof.
Which one is it now? LG-IMMvp he should be from an EU country though
 LG-IMMvp
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On May 02 2013 01:30 YoungTyTy wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 01:28 Yunarc wrote:On May 02 2013 01:26 Shellshock1122 wrote:On May 02 2013 01:26 Bagi wrote:
I love how people are saying "MVP is in Germany", "He's in Korea" but never follow up with any proof.
Which one is it now? LG-IMMvp he should be from an EU country though LG-IMMvp
EU EU EU EU
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On May 02 2013 01:30 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Mvp gonna win the game.
He's gonna beat multiplayer, you mean.
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On May 02 2013 01:31 Godwrath wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 01:30 YoungTyTy wrote:On May 02 2013 01:28 Yunarc wrote:On May 02 2013 01:26 Shellshock1122 wrote:On May 02 2013 01:26 Bagi wrote:
I love how people are saying "MVP is in Germany", "He's in Korea" but never follow up with any proof.
Which one is it now? LG-IMMvp he should be from an EU country though LG-IMMvp EU EU EU EU
I'm gonna sing the EU national anthem if Mvp wins!
Edit: Also https://twitter.com/Ethan_Ahn/status/329634356110974976
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Leading with the Collo. >_<
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Agh, take should really have a serious talk with his cable company... @.@
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On May 02 2013 01:36 Wintex wrote:
I BROKE THE OP. TT
hahahaha. Indeed you did.
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Yeah Mvp just can't micro in these engagements. zzz
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On May 02 2013 01:32 namste wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 01:31 Godwrath wrote:On May 02 2013 01:30 YoungTyTy wrote:On May 02 2013 01:28 Yunarc wrote:On May 02 2013 01:26 Shellshock1122 wrote:On May 02 2013 01:26 Bagi wrote:
I love how people are saying "MVP is in Germany", "He's in Korea" but never follow up with any proof.
Which one is it now? LG-IMMvp he should be from an EU country though LG-IMMvp EU EU EU EU I'm gonna sing the EU national anthem if Mvp wins! Edit: Also https://twitter.com/Ethan_Ahn/status/329634356110974976
Start practicing:
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On May 02 2013 01:36 Wintex wrote:
I BROKE THE OP. TT
i'm gonna have to ask you to turn in your badge and your gun
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On May 02 2013 01:38 Kasaraki wrote:
Yeah Mvp just can't micro in these engagements. zzz
I'd say he doesn't care,that army was meant to buy time for vikings to be remade, he had to take out zealots and stalkers to prevent Siw from attacking any time soon so he'll have vikings when the next engagement comes
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SIW really needs to harrass, but in moments like these, you realize just how expensive dark templars really are (even though they are incredibly strong).
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Poll: Recommend Mvp vs Siw Game 2?If you have time. (6) 60% Nope! (3) 30% Yes! (1) 10% 10 total votes Your vote: Recommend Mvp vs Siw Game 2? (Vote): Yes!
(Vote): If you have time.
(Vote): Nope!
Poll: Recommend Mvp vs Siw Game 3?Yes! (7) 70% Nope! (2) 20% If you have time. (1) 10% 10 total votes Your vote: Recommend Mvp vs Siw Game 3? (Vote): Yes!
(Vote): If you have time.
(Vote): Nope!
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Those were some lazy Zealots.
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MVP making it look easy. Can't wait for him to come to EU.
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On May 02 2013 01:39 WIllBIll wrote:
Those were some lazy Zealots.
lol just my thoughts :D
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Fuck yeah Mvp. Siw not a match in any way, thanksfully.
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On May 02 2013 01:39 WIllBIll wrote:
Those were some lazy Zealots.
Don't blame them, they know once they charge they have a lifespan of less than 5 seconds.
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On May 02 2013 01:38 Kasaraki wrote:
Yeah Mvp just can't micro in these engagements. zzz
His micro was good but it was 3/2 vs 1/1 for half the fight
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On May 02 2013 01:36 Wintex wrote:
I BROKE THE OP. TT
you should just copy and paste the template in again. it's only the first series
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Solid win for Mvp. Lets see who will be his next opponent
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how to you stab mvp's space marines in the back? what if you miss?
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On May 02 2013 01:40 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
Zealots on strike
We're not gonna charge in there until you get us our own medivacs. We're supposed to be the technologically advanced race.
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On May 02 2013 01:40 Mambo wrote:
MVP making it look easy. Can't wait for him to come to EU.
It was easy.
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So far as expected. I predict Socke to meet Mvp in winners match.
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On May 02 2013 01:36 Wintex wrote:
I BROKE THE OP. TT
Probably easiest to just take the original one from opterown's LR resources thread and just edit it again a bit for the first match results.
+ Show Spoiler [original thread] +
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My head says Socke, my heart says DIMAGA.
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Yes Socke should prevails but we'll see. It should be a lot closer than the previous match.
How is Dimaga doing since HotS ?
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damn i missed first match of MvP ;((
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On May 02 2013 01:40 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 01:38 Kasaraki wrote:
Yeah Mvp just can't micro in these engagements. zzz His micro was good but it was 3/2 vs 1/1 for half the fight
That's true, he didn't lose engagements due to lag this game really, but he was just doing some really lazy stutterstepping, heh (In that engagement). :p Or it looked like that to me anyway.
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I heard Mvp is playing from the colony of German Korea. Case solved everyone
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(1630) Socke 0-0 DIMAGA (1327)
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39.77% 2-0 0-2 13.64%
29.38% 2-1 1-2 17.21%
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69.15% 30.85%
Median outcome: Socke 2-1 DIMAGA
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Ah, some good series today!
Don't expect Mvp to drop any maps.
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Wintex, did you TLPD-ize the whole op? Looked like it replaced every /starcraft/ in the image links with a tlpd-link to a player called starcraft which broke all the image links ^.^
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On May 02 2013 01:50 Yello wrote:
Wintex, did you TLPD-ize the whole op? Looked like it replaced every /starcraft/ in the image links with a tlpd-link to a player called starcraft which broke all the image links ^.^
Yeah, misclicked TT fixing it now.
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The great zergling suicide, holy shit.
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I feel like dimaga overcommited to the lings feels like he harmed himself more than socke did.
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It's fun to see how much impact Dreamhack had on the metagame. Socke using Nani's build and Dimaga using Leenock's build.
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If anyone wants to LR to help the poor souls who can't watch, volunteer!
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Missed the mvp match. How did MVP play?
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On May 02 2013 01:54 Ysellian wrote:
Missed the mvp match. How did MVP play?
siw played quite well, but it's mvp i don't thin kit was hard for him. he played very standard in my opinion.
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On May 02 2013 01:54 Ysellian wrote:
Missed the mvp match. How did MVP play?
Masterfully. The lag showed when he was struggling to move out of storms, but he split and multitasked well. Like a King.
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meh Socke why you did not recall -.-
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What did I just see, haha. Awesome.
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That was so cool with all those lings
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terrible play from socke there, total crap forcefields.
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Damn, what happened? I just tuned in to watch Socke's army to be overrun by the swarm... -.-
Also quick question: does time warp slow the attack speed?
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Socke looks doomed in this game, those Ultras on the way are going to carve him to bits
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if u wanna see some horrible play by protoss, this is probably the game to watch O.o
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Zerglings > Colossi, who would have thought it?
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Poll: Recommend DIMAGA vs Socke Game 1?Yes! (11) 85% If you have time. (1) 8% Nope! (1) 8% 13 total votes Your vote: Recommend DIMAGA vs Socke Game 1? (Vote): Yes!
(Vote): If you have time.
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Yeaaah DIMAGA ! DIMAGA ! DIMAGA !
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Socke forgetting quirks of Dimagas play.
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dimaga played great wow, great flank, incoming Mvp vs dimaga rematch ??
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2 times is the charm. Socke not playing well in game 1. Poor army positioning and micro
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Wow dimaga is always fun to watch. Mvp vs Dimaga will be awesome.
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~15 minutes of pure speedling
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Lings only, the doctor ordered. Pretty fun game. ^^
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Every protoss at DH recalls home after denying zerg 4th but Socke is like noooooo I got this.
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On May 02 2013 01:57 JustPassingBy wrote:
Damn, what happened? I just tuned in to watch Socke's army to be overrun by the swarm... -.-
Also quick question: does time warp slow the attack speed?
I'm pretty sure it doesn't
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On May 02 2013 01:58 Emzeeshady wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 01:57 {ToT}ColmA wrote:
if u wanna see some horrible play by protoss, this is probably the game to watch O.o Don't be too hard on Socke. Dimaga was just way better this match.
yeah, i liquibeted him thinking he's been doing really good recently, even though i love dimaga
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On May 02 2013 02:00 Ryps wrote:
Every protoss at DH recalls home after denying zerg 4th but Socke is like noooooo I got this.
Well he is German:D
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Dimaga only needs one Ultra to show off his collector edition.
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On May 02 2013 02:00 Ryps wrote:
Every protoss at DH recalls home after denying zerg 4th but Socke is like noooooo I got this.
Don't those protos usually have a 3rd base or atleast one on the way?
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On May 02 2013 02:00 Ryps wrote:
Every protoss at DH recalls home after denying zerg 4th but Socke is like noooooo I got this.
Didn't he waste energy on panic time-stops?
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On May 02 2013 01:56 Wintex wrote:Masterfully. The lag showed when he was struggling to move out of storms, but he split and multitasked well. Like a King.
On May 02 2013 01:55 Undead1993 wrote:siw played quite well, but it's mvp i don't thin kit was hard for him. he played very standard in my opinion.
Thanks for the info guys! I hope MVP maintains this level of play
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Dimaga must have put that bottle of his at the down left corner of his keyboard.
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Does time warp reduces the attack?
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dimaga crushes socke
MVP crushes dimaga
socke crushes siw
dimaga crushes socke 2nd time
every game 2-0 
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why is mvp playing the eu qualifiers but still playing from korea? (hes not european and not playing in europe, i dont get it)
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On May 02 2013 02:03 Tiaraju9 wrote:
Does time warp reduces the attack?
No
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On May 02 2013 02:03 TSORG wrote:
why is mvp playing the eu qualifiers but still playing from korea? (hes not european and not playing in europe, i dont get it)
why couldn't he?
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On May 02 2013 02:03 TSORG wrote:
why is mvp playing the eu qualifiers but still playing from korea? (hes not european and not playing in europe, i dont get it)
The King does not care about ping.
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On May 02 2013 02:03 TSORG wrote:
why is mvp playing the eu qualifiers but still playing from korea? (hes not european and not playing in europe, i dont get it)
Because home is, where your heart is. And MVPs heart is in EU!
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On May 02 2013 02:00 Benjamin99 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 02:00 Ryps wrote:
Every protoss at DH recalls home after denying zerg 4th but Socke is like noooooo I got this. Well he is German:D
well played sir
Yes gogo dimaga make my liquidbet 2/2! (mvp/dimaga advance)
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On May 02 2013 01:56 Wintex wrote:Masterfully. The lag showed when he was struggling to move out of storms, but he split and multitasked well. Like a King.
Great to hear. Gonna have to go back and watch the VOD's just because its Mvp
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i heard tarson offered to share his room
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On May 02 2013 02:07 DOUDOU wrote:
i heard tarson offered to share his room
They married
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Why colossus tech ? Templar tech is so much better to deal with ultras/lings .
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Having an army consisting only of mineral units provides you with a lot of gas for techs and upgrades.
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Socke is just taking beyond horrible engagements.
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Lings very good unit hehe!
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United States97276 Posts
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So disappointed with Socke's play. That was just bad.
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I don't even know what I am watching. What am I watching?
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The zealot harass Socke is doing is so suboptimal. I like NaNi's way better.
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mvp dimaga rematch, dis gun b gud
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On May 02 2013 02:12 redviper wrote:
I don't even know what I am watching. What am I watching?
EU finest pro-players.
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On May 02 2013 02:12 redviper wrote:
I don't even know what I am watching. What am I watching?
Zergling rape
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I don't know why he's moving out with one Colossus against 100 zerglings. How should that ever work out? :/
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I love the period where the wounded protoss returns to try and take a third after losing a horrible engagement.
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United States97276 Posts
Boo no collectors editions skin
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His ultralisks no longer revive upon death
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On May 02 2013 02:12 redviper wrote:
I don't even know what I am watching. What am I watching?
leenock played the same style, JD aswell, current korean ZvP meta it seems
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and suddenly, zealots evaporate :D
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On May 02 2013 02:13 Nomzter wrote:His ultralisks no longer revive upon death
They just do not die at all!
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Why did he not attack the natural?
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On May 02 2013 02:13 Killmouse wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 02:12 redviper wrote:
I don't even know what I am watching. What am I watching? leenock played the same style, JD aswell, current korean ZvP meta it seems
11 minute hive?
And now he attacks without lings and without 3-3.
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Amazing positioning and use of hallucinations. Wow
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I can imagine 'the walk of the valkyrie' playing when those queens are marching off creep pushing the ultras.
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Now Dimaga with a no brainer move, oh lord. :D
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Attacking up that ramp was either optimistic or retarded.
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This is just bad play from both players.
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Why didn't he go for the natural and bait Socke's army there??
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"Don't do it, DIMAGA, I have the high ground!"
Kidding aside, nice use of hallucinated immortals.
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Noooooooooooo don't move out wtf are you doing Socke omg wtf lol?!
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Oh socke had a chance if he didn't move out. Why move out now. He really should ahve waited.
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these guys giving their armies away to each other again and again.
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On May 02 2013 02:16 redviper wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 02:13 Killmouse wrote:On May 02 2013 02:12 redviper wrote:
I don't even know what I am watching. What am I watching? leenock played the same style, JD aswell, current korean ZvP meta it seems 11 minute hive? And now he attacks without lings and without 3-3.
im talking bout the same composition ling ultra queens,
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Decision making not very good in this match
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Poll: Recommend DIMAGA vs Socke Game 2?Yes! (10) 59% Nope! (5) 29% If you have time. (2) 12% 17 total votes Your vote: Recommend DIMAGA vs Socke Game 2? (Vote): Yes!
(Vote): If you have time.
(Vote): Nope!
Poll: Recommend DIMAGA vs Socke Game 3?If you have time. (6) 43% Yes! (5) 36% Nope! (3) 21% 14 total votes Your vote: Recommend DIMAGA vs Socke Game 3? (Vote): Yes!
(Vote): If you have time.
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Now I am surprised. Positively though.
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This looks good for Mvp so far. ^_^ Hope he can take out Dimaga as easily as he did Siw.
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ugh socke, either do a GOOD 2 base timing or get a fast third. Failed timings into thirds don't work..
Fast third is not that hard against zerg, even against ling style. Just use the mothership core well
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Dimaga always plays like that...he used to play ling baneling upgrades in wol with drops when ultras sucked.
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Guess I need to check Dimaga vs Mvp now. Hopefully Dima can put up a good show for us.
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Phoenix opening... not very good against mass zerglings.
Dimaga throw his whole army ? Doesn't care and still win.
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I really want to see mvp plays some mech TvZ
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Yesterday Titan and today Socke.
Something is wrong with decision making of euro toss.
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On May 02 2013 02:18 Markwerf wrote:
ugh socke, either do a GOOD 2 base timing or get a fast third. Failed timings into thirds don't work..
Fast third is not that hard against zerg, even against ling style. Just use the mothership core well
He seems a bit stuck in WoL, haha.
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Now DIMAGA, I want you to crush the korean invader. Beacause you're awesome. :3
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On May 02 2013 02:19 Darkthorn wrote:
Dimaga always plays like that...he used to play ling baneling upgrades in wol with drops when ultras sucked.
ling bane into broods mass spine 1H camp haha
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Huh. Didn't think Dimaga would win this series. Socke is usually really solid and Dima have been quiet for a long time (or I might have just missed him).
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Its funny how the Code A games are far superior to EU or AM premier games in general.
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On May 02 2013 02:20 Boucot wrote:
Now DIMAGA, I want you to crush the korean invader. Beacause you're awesome. :3
time to defense europe?
great games incoming anyway
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Around 30k viewers, not bad.
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Kaelaris with that gosu french. :p
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gogo Mvp show us the old domination style
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I'm a dumbass... should've bet on DIMAGA! >_<;;
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Would like to see a BFH build from Mvp, seems good vs Dima's ling heavy style.
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On May 02 2013 02:29 DJHelium wrote:
Would like to see a BFH build from Mvp, seems good vs Dima's ling heavy style.
And Mvp loves hellion builds.
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Did mvp goes 14CC or 1 Rax gasless FE ? I messed up with the stream in early game
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On May 02 2013 02:30 Porishan wrote:
Did mvp goes 14CC or 1 Rax gasless FE ? I messed up with the stream in early game
CC first.
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Mvp = 94,83% percentage for the Head? predictions atm.
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On May 02 2013 02:30 Porishan wrote:
Did mvp goes 14CC or 1 Rax gasless FE ? I messed up with the stream in early game
Was CC first.
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On May 02 2013 02:25 Boucot wrote:
Around 30k viewers, not bad.
Still a significant drop from last week (-10k). Maybe Dreamhack quenched the sc2 thirst for some time.
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On May 02 2013 02:32 AlternativeEgo wrote:Still a significant drop from last week (-10k). Maybe Dreamhack quenched the sc2 thirst for some time.
1st of May is a day of hangovers and slacking in Norway at least... Might be why.
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Yeah.
Good luck splitting with lag.
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Yeah that should be game.
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Hmm Mvp will die here, no?
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On May 02 2013 02:33 Wintex wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 02:32 AlternativeEgo wrote:On May 02 2013 02:25 Boucot wrote:
Around 30k viewers, not bad. Still a significant drop from last week (-10k). Maybe Dreamhack quenched the sc2 thirst for some time. 1st of May is a day of hangovers and slacking in Norway at least... Might be why.
Sounds like ideal sc2 watching conditions. :p
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Dimaga has won unless he manages to go full foreigner here.
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On May 02 2013 02:34 Kasaraki wrote:
Hmm Mvp will die here, no?
Unless DIMAGA drops the ball, then yes, he should die.
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Mvp still in good position, will have 2/2 vs 0/0.
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Mvp is gonna be 2-2 against 0-0, IT AINT OVER TILL ITS OVER
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Also, when will terrans build some tanks in TvZ again? I'm really not sure widow mines are much better.
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On May 02 2013 02:35 Swords wrote:
Dimaga has won unless he manages to go full foreigner here.
errrr no
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Dimaga doubling the supply of mvp now.
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Mvp is in a sick position, pretty good.
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Lorning
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So every zerg now just goes for a roach/ling or roach/bane all-ins. Like 2/3 of TvZ we see shit like this O_o
Zergs became so cheesy...
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MVP 2-2, it will still be difficult for dima
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On May 02 2013 02:35 Swords wrote:
Dimaga has won unless he manages to go full foreigner here.
Yeah, definitely went full foreigner.
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Dimaga ain't going full foriegner MVP is going full MVP XD
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On May 02 2013 02:37 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
MVP 2-2, it will still be difficult for dima
Against 0-1, his bio's never going to die. Don't care for DIMAGA's position here.
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On May 02 2013 02:35 Swords wrote:
Dimaga has won unless he manages to go full foreigner here.
Yep
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On May 02 2013 02:36 Strela wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 02:35 Swords wrote:
Dimaga has won unless he manages to go full foreigner here. errrr no
Yes, he did massive damage with that first bust and then kept overextending for no reason, despite being up bases and workers.
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Dimaga should have transitioned after the first attack. Mvp is still in this!
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Mvp's splits and willingness to sac the SCVs to not lose the whole army is why I believe he is in a sick position. A widow mine shot helped, but damn.
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3-3 almost half way for Mvp
rip dimaga
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On May 02 2013 02:38 wozzot wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 02:35 Swords wrote:
Dimaga has won unless he manages to go full foreigner here. Yep
Not at all, his attack was all-in. Mvp is in a very good position.
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Mvp come back. Like a boss. He makes it seem easy.
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Russian Federation949 Posts
Can someone tell me why in the hell dimaga threw this???? how was going with lings vs mines and 2-2 marauders was a good idea????????? if he didnt do the last attack he could have finished this game the moment he maxed out
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love to see marine tanks playstyle back in TvZ
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On May 02 2013 02:38 wozzot wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 02:35 Swords wrote:
Dimaga has won unless he manages to go full foreigner here. Yep
Your sig is a dance party. So awesome.
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On May 02 2013 02:38 Swords wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 02:36 Strela wrote:On May 02 2013 02:35 Swords wrote:
Dimaga has won unless he manages to go full foreigner here. errrr no Yes, he did massive damage with that first bust and then kept overextending for no reason, despite being up bases and workers.
he didn't do enough damage and fell behind in other areas.
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On May 02 2013 02:39 sitromit wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 02:38 wozzot wrote:On May 02 2013 02:35 Swords wrote:
Dimaga has won unless he manages to go full foreigner here. Yep Not at all, his attack was all-in. Mvp is in a very good position.
His attack was all-in, but it did the damage he needed to do. He killed 33 workers, got a base up behind it, and could've gotten a good amount of tech too, instead he threw away thousands of resources in roachs/lings/banes when he already had an advantage.
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Someone please tell Dimaga that banelings don't morph for free. He's throwing them away willy nilly.
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Russian Federation949 Posts
On May 02 2013 02:40 Strela wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 02:38 Swords wrote:On May 02 2013 02:36 Strela wrote:On May 02 2013 02:35 Swords wrote:
Dimaga has won unless he manages to go full foreigner here. errrr no Yes, he did massive damage with that first bust and then kept overextending for no reason, despite being up bases and workers. he didn't do enough damage and fell behind in other areas.
after 2nd attack he did MORE than enough damage, 45 supply up with a good bank. 23 scv vs 65 drones. easy win if fall back, take 4rth and 5th base. do upgrades, push with max
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Dimaga playing very well.
That was a great engagement.
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Mvp must kill him here. Too few bases and his upgrades aren't going to be more advantageous than they already are.
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On May 02 2013 02:40 Strela wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 02:38 Swords wrote:On May 02 2013 02:36 Strela wrote:On May 02 2013 02:35 Swords wrote:
Dimaga has won unless he manages to go full foreigner here. errrr no Yes, he did massive damage with that first bust and then kept overextending for no reason, despite being up bases and workers. he didn't do enough damage and fell behind in other areas.
He killed 26 scvs for the first bust, but tried to bust again time after time without getting a single SCV down, overextended and fell behind
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Netherlands15103 Posts
That was beautiful by Dimaga <3
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Wow that was an impressive engagement by Dimaga!
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very nice engagement by Dimaga! Hes back in a good position right now
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On May 02 2013 02:42 Porishan wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 02:40 Strela wrote:On May 02 2013 02:38 Swords wrote:On May 02 2013 02:36 Strela wrote:On May 02 2013 02:35 Swords wrote:
Dimaga has won unless he manages to go full foreigner here. errrr no Yes, he did massive damage with that first bust and then kept overextending for no reason, despite being up bases and workers. he didn't do enough damage and fell behind in other areas. He killed 26 scvs for the first bust, but tried to bust again time after time without getting a single SCV down, overextended and fell behind
Yea first bust was good
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Good ol' swarm death wave. It always looks so cool.
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Beautiful engagement. And now he is catching up on upgrades.
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i think mvp could've been more aggressive when he was 2/2, at least clear the creep and deny one base
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Dimaga messing with my liquibets Nice to see EU defending more though!
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Dimaga doubling the supply once again.
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gg Dimaga! Lets see if Mvp can come back
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On May 02 2013 02:44 netherDrake wrote:
i think mvp could've been more aggressive when he was 2/2, at least clear the creep and deny one base
I'm surprised he wasn't, his upgrade lead was significant but he just sat around when he was in a pretty good spot to go on the offensive.
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One more Dima, one more !
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The fact that Mvp survived for this long is why he is so awesome
Poll: Recommend Winner's Match Game 1?Yes! (43) 96% Nope! (2) 4% If you have time. (0) 0% 45 total votes Your vote: Recommend Winner's Match Game 1? (Vote): Yes!
(Vote): If you have time.
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How is Dimaga still teamless?
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Really well played by Dimaga
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"Just fucking baneling bust them"
JP McDaniel
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On May 02 2013 02:45 peeeky wrote:
How is Dimaga still teamless?
Didn't he quit being an sc2 progamer? That's my last memory of him (which may not even be correct)
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I think Mvp could've gone for an attack as he got his 2/2. Also I don't know why he went for tanks over widow mines, the first 2 is ok to hold the bane bust, but late game they're just worse imo.
Now he let Dimaga catch up in upgrades, as well as macro freely.
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why is this guy teamless? oO
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MVP definitely sacrificed his upgrade lead there - he needed to hit a 3/3 timing really bad, but he just sat there.
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On May 02 2013 02:46 Zenbrez wrote:Didn't he quit being an sc2 progamer? That's my last memory of him (which may not even be correct)
Nop he never quit
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On May 02 2013 02:45 Benjamin99 wrote:
Really well played by Dimaga
Apart from the almost throwing the game after getting an enormous lead part.
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Beautiful play by Dimaga. Crazy nice flanks. He looks so good.
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That flank that Dimaga did when MVP moved out was really impressive, completely crushed that army.
Ultras are really strong too, and I feel like Terran needs Marauders to handle them, Siege Tanks aren't enough at all.
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United States97276 Posts
Did not expect DIMAGA to do this well today. shows how much I know about the foreign scene D:
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Dimaga must not be forgotten as a foreigner who could compete against korean at his prime in WoL, hopefully this game proves that he can still do it in HotS, it was great play.
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On May 02 2013 02:46 DJHelium wrote:
I think Mvp could've gone for an attack as he got his 2/2. Also I don't know why he went for tanks over widow mines, the first 2 is ok to hold the bane bust, but late game they're just worse imo.
Now he let Dimaga catch up in upgrades, as well as macro freely.
Maybe he thought Dimaga would max with lings/banes/roaches afterwards.
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Mvp is playing so fucking bad. I dont even wanna watch this anymore
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On May 02 2013 02:46 Zenbrez wrote:Didn't he quit being an sc2 progamer? That's my last memory of him (which may not even be correct)
That's incorrect. Dunno how's he's still teamless though.
Impressive play from Dimaga, recovering from such a bad position after holding the lead.
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Its hard to predict what Dimage will appear. He can play so good and so bad.
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On May 02 2013 02:28 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
I'm a dumbass... should've bet on DIMAGA! >_<;;
Damn... Oo;
So strong.
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On May 02 2013 02:46 Zenbrez wrote:Didn't he quit being an sc2 progamer? That's my last memory of him (which may not even be correct)
he married his wife. thats my last memory
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On May 02 2013 02:46 DJHelium wrote:
I think Mvp could've gone for an attack as he got his 2/2. Also I don't know why he went for tanks over widow mines, the first 2 is ok to hold the bane bust, but late game they're just worse imo.
Because of ultras/roaches.
Honestly I'm more surprised he decided to play bio.
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Please tell us what map is next TT
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On May 02 2013 02:47 Bowzar wrote:Mvp is playing so fucking bad. I dont even wanna watch this anymore
? His play was good considering the horrible position in which he was after the first bust.
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People should remember that Mvp is playing with a ton of lag and at 3am.
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On May 02 2013 02:47 Bowzar wrote:Mvp is playing so fucking bad. I dont even wanna watch this anymore
Well he can't micro against banes. Dunno why he chose to play on EU from KR.. Should've flown to visit Reis for these games imo.
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On May 02 2013 02:47 fastr wrote:
Dimaga must not be forgotten as a foreigner who could compete against korean at his prime in WoL, hopefully this game proves that he can still do it in HotS, it was great play.
Both Dimaga and Socke are players that always seems to take games off even the best players in the world. Never count them out!
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On May 02 2013 02:47 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 02:46 DJHelium wrote:
I think Mvp could've gone for an attack as he got his 2/2. Also I don't know why he went for tanks over widow mines, the first 2 is ok to hold the bane bust, but late game they're just worse imo.
Now he let Dimaga catch up in upgrades, as well as macro freely. Maybe he thought Dimaga would max with lings/banes/roaches afterwards.
Those units are shit against bio when the upgrade lead for bio is that big.
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Now if only I had hopes of either Socke or SiW knocking out MVP after Dimaga advances...
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On May 02 2013 02:45 forsooth wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 02:44 netherDrake wrote:
i think mvp could've been more aggressive when he was 2/2, at least clear the creep and deny one base I'm surprised he wasn't, his upgrade lead was significant but he just sat around when he was in a pretty good spot to go on the offensive.
scary to drop vs mutas and dem map control,also to micro the drops is hard with lag
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On May 01 2013 07:52 Entirety wrote:
Predictions
Mvp 2 - 0 Siw
DIMAGA 2 - 1 Socke
Mvp 2 - 0 DIMAGA
Siw 0 - 2 Socke
DIMAGA 2 - 1 Socke
Mvp and Socke advance!
Let's go Mvp!!
The King cannot fall here!!
The King will win EU!!
Go Mvp!! :D
lol.. That prediction XDD
DIMAGA wins but Socke advances... lol
In other news.... DIMAGA!!!!!!!!!
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On May 02 2013 02:48 Wintex wrote:
Please tell us what map is next TT
Starstation is what they said.
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On May 02 2013 02:48 Exarl25 wrote:
People should remember that Mvp is playing with a ton of lag and at 3am.
Yeah. Don't forget the black toe he got from playing rugby either.
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On May 02 2013 02:48 JustPassingBy wrote:
Now if only I had hopes of either Socke or SiW knocking out MVP after Dimaga advances...
i hope not, mvp is awesome
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On May 02 2013 02:48 forsooth wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 02:47 TheDwf wrote:On May 02 2013 02:46 DJHelium wrote:
I think Mvp could've gone for an attack as he got his 2/2. Also I don't know why he went for tanks over widow mines, the first 2 is ok to hold the bane bust, but late game they're just worse imo.
Now he let Dimaga catch up in upgrades, as well as macro freely. Maybe he thought Dimaga would max with lings/banes/roaches afterwards. Those units are shit against bio when the upgrade lead for bio is that big.
Once you have the critical mass, yes. But not before.
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On May 02 2013 02:48 Exarl25 wrote:
People should remember that Mvp is playing with a ton of lag and at 3am.
He could've chosen KR then. These excuses shouldn't fly here.
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On May 02 2013 02:48 pmp10 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 02:46 DJHelium wrote:
I think Mvp could've gone for an attack as he got his 2/2. Also I don't know why he went for tanks over widow mines, the first 2 is ok to hold the bane bust, but late game they're just worse imo. Because of ultras/roaches. Honestly I'm more surprised he decided to play bio.
Unless in a defensive position, I think widow mines are much better versus ultras. Roaches is about the same.
It's just so hard to stay aggressive with tanks. It creates sort of a death ball, and makes drops weaken your main army extra much.
What I'm trying to say is that I think it's less flexible There's a reason why Flash/Innovation are using mines over tanks, even vs ultras or even roach/hydra
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On May 02 2013 02:46 namste wrote:Apart from the almost throwing the game after getting an enormous lead part.
?? almost throwing the game? MVP got his 3rd up at 16.50. Dimaga was in total control from start to finish
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I can see Dima fistpumping and screaming at home after that win while the wife smiles and shakes her head, thinking "boys".
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On May 02 2013 02:48 Exarl25 wrote:
People should remember that Mvp is playing with a ton of lag and at 3am.
He's actually in Germany I believe.
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Starstation is very open. We could see more flanks coming from every side...
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On May 02 2013 02:50 Lazzi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 02:48 Exarl25 wrote:
People should remember that Mvp is playing with a ton of lag and at 3am. He's actually in Germany I believe.
He's not according to Ethan Ahn.
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On May 02 2013 02:50 Vadrigar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 02:48 Exarl25 wrote:
People should remember that Mvp is playing with a ton of lag and at 3am. He could've chosen KR then. These excuses shouldn't fly here.
It's not an excuse, it's just a fact. *shrugs*
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On May 02 2013 02:48 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 02:47 Bowzar wrote:Mvp is playing so fucking bad. I dont even wanna watch this anymore ? His play was good considering the horrible position in which he was after the first bust.
He just sat there and then moved out and got crushed thats not how Korean terrans play.
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On May 02 2013 02:50 Vadrigar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 02:48 Exarl25 wrote:
People should remember that Mvp is playing with a ton of lag and at 3am. He could've chosen KR then. These excuses shouldn't fly here.
Exactly. He decide to not play on the Korean WCS. So stop with this lag noncence.
On May 02 2013 02:51 Kasaraki wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 02:50 Vadrigar wrote:On May 02 2013 02:48 Exarl25 wrote:
People should remember that Mvp is playing with a ton of lag and at 3am. He could've chosen KR then. These excuses shouldn't fly here. It's not an excuse, it's just a fact. *shrugs*
No its an excuse. And MVP obviously thought he could deal with it or else he wouldn't have decided to play EU WCS. So yea I don't feel sorry for MVP at all he got lag it was his choice
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ESL should just use the screen to show us player cards, or show the map visually and talk about it. Would like that wayyy more. The splash screen with the logo is meh after a while.
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On May 02 2013 02:50 Vadrigar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 02:48 Exarl25 wrote:
People should remember that Mvp is playing with a ton of lag and at 3am. He could've chosen KR then. These excuses shouldn't fly here.
Yeah he should've probably, or NA like everyone else. But nonetheless, he is severely handicapped in these matches.
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On May 02 2013 02:48 Exarl25 wrote:
People should remember that Mvp is playing with a ton of lag and at 3am.
lol the excuses people use once a foreigner beats one of their big korean heroes...
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On May 02 2013 02:50 Benjamin99 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 02:46 namste wrote:On May 02 2013 02:45 Benjamin99 wrote:
Really well played by Dimaga Apart from the almost throwing the game after getting an enormous lead part. ?? almost throwing the game? MVP got his 3rd up at 16.50. Dimaga was in total control from start to finish
ehm no
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On May 02 2013 02:50 AlternativeEgo wrote:
I can see Dima fistpumping and screaming at home after that win while the wife smiles and shakes her head, thinking "boys".
rofl, sounds sooo true :p
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On May 02 2013 02:50 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 02:48 forsooth wrote:On May 02 2013 02:47 TheDwf wrote:On May 02 2013 02:46 DJHelium wrote:
I think Mvp could've gone for an attack as he got his 2/2. Also I don't know why he went for tanks over widow mines, the first 2 is ok to hold the bane bust, but late game they're just worse imo.
Now he let Dimaga catch up in upgrades, as well as macro freely. Maybe he thought Dimaga would max with lings/banes/roaches afterwards. Those units are shit against bio when the upgrade lead for bio is that big. Once you have the critical mass, yes. But not before.
Critical mass? He knew Dimaga had just expended an insane amount of larvae on all those lings and roaches, there's no way he'd have had enough left over to do something as crazy as remax. He had a good opportunity to attack and I'm surprised he sat back.
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On May 02 2013 02:52 Strela wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 02:48 Exarl25 wrote:
People should remember that Mvp is playing with a ton of lag and at 3am. lol the excuses people use once a foreigner beats one of their big korean heroes...
You really don't think either of those factors will affect his play? It's just a fact that Koreans are handicapped in these matches, now that's fine because they made that decision but you have to take it into account when judging a players performance. You can't treat a victory over Mvp here with as much prestige as it would hold at a LAN.
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On May 02 2013 02:51 DJHelium wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 02:50 Lazzi wrote:On May 02 2013 02:48 Exarl25 wrote:
People should remember that Mvp is playing with a ton of lag and at 3am. He's actually in Germany I believe. He's not according to Ethan Ahn.
OK, I was not sure, I saw that somewhere, but it might be wrong!
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On May 02 2013 02:50 AlternativeEgo wrote:
I can see Dima fistpumping and screaming at home after that win while the wife smiles and shakes her head, thinking "boys".
Nah, she's screaming "Bring home the money Dima!!!"
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On May 02 2013 02:51 Bowzar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 02:48 TheDwf wrote:On May 02 2013 02:47 Bowzar wrote:Mvp is playing so fucking bad. I dont even wanna watch this anymore ? His play was good considering the horrible position in which he was after the first bust. He just sat there and then moved out and got crushed thats not how Korean terrans play.
If that's your analysis, I don't suggest you go into commentary.
DIMAGA all-in'd him with a roach-ling-bane bust off of lair tech. Mvp lost about 30 workers, but continued to upgrade to 2-2. Mvp moved out then, and after DIMAGA continued to throw small bunches of ineffective units at him in an attempt to finish Mvp off, Mvp managed to get his third down and secure. He didn't press his supply equality and upgrade advantage, instead massing an army off of three base, allowing to DIMAGA to take the map. He could have moved out, but be it out of fear or whatever, he didn't recognize his edge, and failed to utilize it.
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On May 02 2013 02:51 Bowzar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 02:48 TheDwf wrote:On May 02 2013 02:47 Bowzar wrote:Mvp is playing so fucking bad. I dont even wanna watch this anymore ? His play was good considering the horrible position in which he was after the first bust. He just sat there and then moved out and got crushed thats not how Korean terrans play.
Maybe you can consider how the game went before that point?
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It's obvious MVP will relocate in the later rounds but has massive confidence himself to progress with the lag for now.
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On May 02 2013 02:54 Ippo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 02:50 AlternativeEgo wrote:
I can see Dima fistpumping and screaming at home after that win while the wife smiles and shakes her head, thinking "boys". Nah, she's screaming "Bring home the money Dima!!!"
I need new shoooeesss!!
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6hp medivac... at least if dimage wins this now, we cannot claim that he did it out of sheer luck. :p
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On May 02 2013 02:50 Lazzi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 02:48 Exarl25 wrote:
People should remember that Mvp is playing with a ton of lag and at 3am. He's actually in Germany I believe.
That's what I heard too (I believe Take said it?). He does not have an excure, I'm afraid.
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Bio again.
MVP is playing with fire here.
If he goes to meet Socke in the final match he may end his premiere run today.
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That ling is pretty gross 0_0 lol ewwwww
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Mvp has been supply blocking himself really badly and frequently these last two games, wonder what's up.
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Either he's playing from Korea or his micro's gotten significantly worse in the past month. 
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On May 02 2013 02:56 AlternativeEgo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 02:54 Ippo wrote:On May 02 2013 02:50 AlternativeEgo wrote:
I can see Dima fistpumping and screaming at home after that win while the wife smiles and shakes her head, thinking "boys". Nah, she's screaming "Bring home the money Dima!!!" I need new shoooeesss!!
Or maybe she is under his desk. She is a super booster!!!
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On May 02 2013 02:57 ACrow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 02:50 Lazzi wrote:On May 02 2013 02:48 Exarl25 wrote:
People should remember that Mvp is playing with a ton of lag and at 3am. He's actually in Germany I believe. That's what I heard too (I believe Take said it?). He does not have an excure, I'm afraid.
He is in Korea. I asked on twitter and Ethan, the korean sc2 journalist dude confirmed it.
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Source for Mvp's location is in OP. TT
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Ugh, with so many mines, I see a bad future for dimaga's mass ling/bling style... O.o
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Is MVP playing from Korea?
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On May 02 2013 03:00 Liara wrote:
Is MVP playing from Korea?
On May 02 2013 02:59 Wintex wrote:
Source for Mvp's location is in OP. TT
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Feels like Dimaga will probably take out Mvp either this or the next game, hopefully he can beat the next protoss he plays.
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Dimage needs more overseers, one alone can be sniped too easily (it's not as if he's lacking resources)!
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if dimaga doesnt go through, I will T_T
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MVP's pre splitting is really excessive. It's a way to deal with lag but it lets too many Zerg units live.
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Man, Dima playing so well in this game.
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MVP still lives in the world of WoL
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TVZ splitting with lag , looks like impossible to me
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You can actually see the delay MVP is getting just by watching how late he boosts medivacs and splitting his bio. So very unforgiving against banelings.
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That looked pretty ugly early for DIMAGA but he controlled well throughout the fight. C'mon DIMAGA!
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On May 02 2013 03:03 m0ck wrote:
MVP still lives in the world of WoL
Hence the Mines?
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On May 02 2013 03:03 m0ck wrote:
MVP still lives in the world of WoL
You make no sense at all.
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On May 02 2013 03:02 Clefairy wrote:
MVP's pre splitting is really excessive. It's a way to deal with lag but it lets too many Zerg units live.
I'd say that mech is a better strategy when it comes to coping with lag.
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On May 02 2013 03:03 m0ck wrote:
MVP still lives in the world of WoL
? And what you suggest to make vs Ultra/Infestor instead of MMMM ? Helbats? lol
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There's no way Mvp isn't playing in Korea. His reaction time has never been anywhere near this bad.
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on one hand, its too bad that MVP is going to lose. On the other hand, if this keeps Koreans from trying to play cross servers then good.
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This matchup is pretty much impossible with the lag.
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40k viewers (all streams ofc)
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I wonder if DiMAGA has a team yet ...
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Mvp playing with lag but I guess that's the price Koreans pay when they choose to play in a different region.
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On May 02 2013 03:04 Huragius wrote:? And what you suggest to make vs Ultra/Infestor instead of MMMM ? Helbats? lol
Of course, few hellbats mixed in would definitely help in this composition (to tank banelings and against zerglings).
Also hellbat drops are great, considering the zerg has mainly zerglings to defend.
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MVP should of played in NA.
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Must be nice to live in this happy place where Koreans have lag and your pros are actually good....sigh.
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wtf, no drop/no scout/ no early aggression is this mvp?
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a brood lord switch would cripple mvp. hes getting more marauders.
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That was really good for Mvp.
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I love that Dimaga still use Infestors.
A few of them to keep bio from kitting is so important
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I dont think broodlords work on this map ..
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Oh man if Mvp comes back from that...
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Wow this deifying of MVP is ridiculous. He is probably playing with a bit of lack, but other Korean pros play much better on EU. Also he chose to play EU, so you can't really feel sorry for him.
I know his wrists are literally on fire, he has jetlag, it is late in Korea, he has lag, wrong hotkeys and JYP is distracting him, but this let's just say that Dimaga is playing very well.
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On May 02 2013 03:07 vultdylan wrote:
a brood lord switch would cripple mvp. hes getting more marauders.
Please no, SC2 has been so much more fun since that e-sports murdering unit disappeared.
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On May 02 2013 03:06 DeathProfessor wrote:
Must be nice to live in this happy place where Koreans have lag and your pros are actually good....sigh.
Have you taken a look at the actual game itself? If you have the gift of eyesight you can pretty much see the delay.
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Not sure why Dimaga chose to go down the ramp with all the mines. He could have flanked too...
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On May 02 2013 03:07 Wintex wrote:
That was really good for Mvp.
I suppose, but I think at this point he's only prolonging his death. If DIMAGA finds any way to get mins (sitting on like 2k+ bank of gas!), he's gonna just swarm him to death.
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How is he in this tho, he has lost his army like 15 times already :S
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On May 02 2013 03:06 JustPassingBy wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:04 Huragius wrote:On May 02 2013 03:03 m0ck wrote:
MVP still lives in the world of WoL ? And what you suggest to make vs Ultra/Infestor instead of MMMM ? Helbats? lol Of course, few hellbats mixed in would definitely help in this composition (to tank banelings and against zerglings). Also hellbat drops are great, considering the zerg has mainly zerglings to defend.
Please, don't make yourself look silly. Dimaga had way to little zerglings for helbats to be effective, so don't try to come up with false arguments why MVP lost. You can go helbats against Multa/ling/bane, infestor/ling or when you are thinking that zerg is going to remax on lings. Not against almost pure Ultra/Infestor.
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ridiculously strong army from dimaga.
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3 marauders could take hatch down fast
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MVP needs a 2nd starport but doesn't have the Mineral income to support it.
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Viewer count is looking good to be honest.
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Would love to see some nydus action from Dimaga, but sadly he doesn't float enough resources to allocate funds for it...
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On May 02 2013 03:05 Yhamm wrote:40k viewers (all streams ofc)
Mvp brings in the viewers ^^
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On May 02 2013 03:08 AgentW wrote:I suppose, but I think at this point he's only prolonging his death. If DIMAGA finds any way to get mins (sitting on like 2k+ bank of gas!), he's gonna just swarm him to death.
True. That snipe helped.
Baserace?
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terran should stop using ines as tankreplacement. mines aren't nearly as good as tanks for engaging the enemy directly.
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On May 02 2013 03:07 rasnj wrote:
Wow this deifying of MVP is ridiculous.
You mean Flash?
all jokes aside you gotta forgive ppl for wanting things to be excited about -_~
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On May 02 2013 03:07 namste wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:06 DeathProfessor wrote:
Must be nice to live in this happy place where Koreans have lag and your pros are actually good....sigh. Have you taken a look at the actual game itself? If you have the gift of eyesight you can pretty much see the delay.
I think he's talking about NA where Koreans don't have lag and the pros are bad. EU has it pretty good.
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oh god dimaga please dont throw this.
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On May 02 2013 03:09 eurTsItniH wrote:
Viewer count is looking good to be honest.
The stream numbers for any Sc2 tournament have been pretty damn good for a while now, really a nice thing to see.
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On May 02 2013 03:09 Waxangel wrote:You mean Flash?
FlaSh is a bonjwa though. :S
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LOL ToD, "Good luck, have fun"
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On May 02 2013 03:09 Wintex wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:08 AgentW wrote:On May 02 2013 03:07 Wintex wrote:
That was really good for Mvp. I suppose, but I think at this point he's only prolonging his death. If DIMAGA finds any way to get mins (sitting on like 2k+ bank of gas!), he's gonna just swarm him to death. True. That snipe helped. Baserace?
Yeah... I don't like this call from DIMAGA. Just defend and choke him out. I'd be such a boring pro
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Why not kill the spire first you can't blame that on lag
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On May 02 2013 03:11 jalstar wrote:
Why not kill the spire first you can't blame that on lag
Nono, all Mvp's mistakes are due to lag!
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Why didn't lift his Barracks/Factories/Starport ? That was so sloppy.
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On May 02 2013 03:10 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:09 Waxangel wrote:On May 02 2013 03:07 rasnj wrote:
Wow this deifying of MVP is ridiculous.
You mean Flash? FlaSh is a bonjwa though. :S
He said the B-word! Everyone, get in the bunkers!
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mvp should just load up into trollivacs and snipe hatcheries
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On May 02 2013 03:10 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:09 Waxangel wrote:On May 02 2013 03:07 rasnj wrote:
Wow this deifying of MVP is ridiculous.
You mean Flash? FlaSh is a bonjwa though. :S
is that a frown and a smile at the same time o_O
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Yes DIMAGA, so happy for him !
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On May 02 2013 03:10 namste wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:09 eurTsItniH wrote:
Viewer count is looking good to be honest. The stream numbers for any Sc2 tournament have been pretty damn good for a while now, really a nice thing to see.
HotS is still somewhat fresh and WCS is incredibly new so viewer number are expected to be very high.
But the call is now on blizzard or the tournament organisers to make enough new original maps to prevent it from going stale.
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bla bla bla korea, mvp should have won
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Yes Dimaga back to old glory!
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Dima
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lol yeahh dimaga.
this is europe! lol xD
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Holy shit. Dimaga comes out of fucking nowhere and takes the group. :O :D
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On May 02 2013 03:12 ChemBroTron wrote:
Europe holds!!
...for now.
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Yeah Dimaga!! Such a great result for him!
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DIMAGA pooping on my liquibet gg
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wowwwww, dimaga out first, the hell.
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dimaga!! congratz!
happy to see mvp play more in fact
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DIMAGA!!
Nice to see him playing at this kind of level again
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On May 02 2013 03:11 Huragius wrote:
Why didn't lift his Barracks/Factories/Starport ? That was so sloppy.
Yes, that would have made so much difference...
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Omg! Dimaga you glorious beast! I’m not even mad that my liqubets are completely shot to hell :D
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Terran OP!
Seriously though, well done Dimaga!
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That was pretty disappointing.
I guess playing with lag is not in the curriculum of Korean terrans.
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Wow. I must say I am a man of little faith. Never predicted Dima to win here. GG, nicely played.
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What are teams waiting to pick up this guy.
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why is dimaga still teamless?
gg sick win
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DI-MA-GA DI-MA-GA DI-MA-GA DI-MA-GA
DI
MA
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Dimaga has always been destroying all of LG-IM. Remember Dimaga vs Nestea? First televised ZvZ that Nestea lost xD
And I seem to remember him doing very well vs MVP as well, back in the day, although I can't quite recall the exact circumstance there.
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First zerg advancing to Ro16 by taking mvp 2-0. Now that's something...
Congratz Dimaga.
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Pretty nice result for Dimaga.
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On May 02 2013 03:11 AgentW wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:10 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On May 02 2013 03:09 Waxangel wrote:On May 02 2013 03:07 rasnj wrote:
Wow this deifying of MVP is ridiculous.
You mean Flash? FlaSh is a bonjwa though. :S He said the B-word! Everyone, get in the bunkers!
The times where it was disputed are past us.
On May 02 2013 03:12 Waxangel wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:10 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On May 02 2013 03:09 Waxangel wrote:On May 02 2013 03:07 rasnj wrote:
Wow this deifying of MVP is ridiculous.
You mean Flash? FlaSh is a bonjwa though. :S is that a frown and a smile at the same time o_O
It's a shifty face! For when I'm all shifty!!! :O
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There are many players who are skilled, and there are many players who are popular, but there are only few players who are both. One of them is Dimaga!
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MVP has always had a weak spot against foreign zergs.
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On May 02 2013 03:13 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:11 Huragius wrote:
Why didn't lift his Barracks/Factories/Starport ? That was so sloppy. Yes, that would have made so much difference...
If he killed the hive/spire and lifted his buildings the best DIMAGA could have done would have been a draw. At the beginning of the base race he had 0 corruptors and Mvp didn't even try to punish that.
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and now i want to see socke winning over siw and mvp and it will be a good day ; )
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On May 02 2013 03:13 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:11 Huragius wrote:
Why didn't lift his Barracks/Factories/Starport ? That was so sloppy. Yes, that would have made so much difference...
It wouldn't. But when you base race, you always want to get as much as advantage as you can as a Terran. And letting half of his production facilities to die for absolutely nothing is really sloppy for a player of this caliber.
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memories of GSL World Championships where Dimaga also defeated MVP. And after a D/C as well.
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On May 02 2013 03:13 pmp10 wrote:
That was pretty disappointing.
I guess playing with lag is not in the curriculum of Korean terrans.
Mech would have been worthwhile.
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i think that if Socke wins the losers match that he has a slight chance of beating mvp. mvp looks a little shaky and it may be due to lag, but doesnt he still have an injury as well?
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On May 02 2013 03:13 pmp10 wrote:
That was pretty disappointing.
I guess playing with lag is not in the curriculum of Korean terrans.
If they choose to play in other regions than their own they really can't use that as an argument.
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On May 02 2013 03:13 Shellshock1122 wrote:
DIMAGA pooping on my liquibet gg
1/2 for me...time for MVP to advance...and I'm good to go
You should have watched dimaga's play lately he's on a roll
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Was not expecting that, but GG Dimaga, hope he goes far!
I'm sad we now will not have both Socke and MVP advance, let's see how this pans out!
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On May 02 2013 03:14 JustPassingBy wrote:
There are many players who are skilled, and there are many players who are popular, but there are only few players who are both. One of them is Dimaga!
And kind too! I remember he wished all of his fans "a big health" after winning Assembly! :D
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MVP played poorly, but.. dimaga executed perfectly!
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On May 02 2013 03:15 jalstar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:13 TheDwf wrote:On May 02 2013 03:11 Huragius wrote:
Why didn't lift his Barracks/Factories/Starport ? That was so sloppy. Yes, that would have made so much difference... If he killed the hive/spire and lifted his buildings the best DIMAGA could have done would have been a draw. At the beginning of the base race he had 0 corruptors and Mvp didn't even try to punish that.
He did lift some of his buildings, and your draw scenario assumes Dimaga had no drone left, which was not the case.
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On May 02 2013 03:15 jalstar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:13 TheDwf wrote:On May 02 2013 03:11 Huragius wrote:
Why didn't lift his Barracks/Factories/Starport ? That was so sloppy. Yes, that would have made so much difference... If he killed the hive/spire and lifted his buildings the best DIMAGA could have done would have been a draw. At the beginning of the base race he had 0 corruptors and Mvp didn't even try to punish that.
Except Dimaga still had drones and mining bases. Would've just postponed the inevitable.
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On May 02 2013 03:14 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:11 AgentW wrote:On May 02 2013 03:10 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On May 02 2013 03:09 Waxangel wrote:On May 02 2013 03:07 rasnj wrote:
Wow this deifying of MVP is ridiculous.
You mean Flash? FlaSh is a bonjwa though. :S He said the B-word! Everyone, get in the bunkers! The times where it was disputed are past us. Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:12 Waxangel wrote:On May 02 2013 03:10 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On May 02 2013 03:09 Waxangel wrote:On May 02 2013 03:07 rasnj wrote:
Wow this deifying of MVP is ridiculous.
You mean Flash? FlaSh is a bonjwa though. :S is that a frown and a smile at the same time o_O It's a shifty face! For when I'm all shifty!!! :O
I dunno if I approve :ʃ
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THIS IS DIMAGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
*Kicks MVP in a deep hole and screams*
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Come on now Socke! If you manage to win this series, you still have a chance of one-basing your way to the ro16!!!
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Dimaga has the Naniwa syndrome I feel.
He plays a lot better when he's not the favorite but sometimes have a hard time when it's obvious he should win.
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Meh. Go Mvp. Slay the dirty tosses.
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On May 02 2013 03:16 Waxangel wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:14 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On May 02 2013 03:11 AgentW wrote:On May 02 2013 03:10 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On May 02 2013 03:09 Waxangel wrote:On May 02 2013 03:07 rasnj wrote:
Wow this deifying of MVP is ridiculous.
You mean Flash? FlaSh is a bonjwa though. :S He said the B-word! Everyone, get in the bunkers! The times where it was disputed are past us. On May 02 2013 03:12 Waxangel wrote:On May 02 2013 03:10 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On May 02 2013 03:09 Waxangel wrote:On May 02 2013 03:07 rasnj wrote:
Wow this deifying of MVP is ridiculous.
You mean Flash? FlaSh is a bonjwa though. :S is that a frown and a smile at the same time o_O It's a shifty face! For when I'm all shifty!!! :O I dunno if I approve :ʃ
Why are you not in the MajOr thread dropping knowledge bombs on scrubs?
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On May 02 2013 03:15 Huragius wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:13 TheDwf wrote:On May 02 2013 03:11 Huragius wrote:
Why didn't lift his Barracks/Factories/Starport ? That was so sloppy. Yes, that would have made so much difference... It wouldn't. But when you base race, you always want to get as much as advantage as you can as a Terran. And letting half of his production facilities to die for absolutely nothing is really sloppy for a player of this caliber.
Or he had already lost and knew it, so saving one extra fact and a few rax wouldn't have mattered at all.
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I demand reaction video from wife
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On May 02 2013 03:15 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:13 pmp10 wrote:
That was pretty disappointing.
I guess playing with lag is not in the curriculum of Korean terrans. Mech would have been worthwhile.
That's kinda the point - MVP pretty much given up on mech in HotS.
Maybe he expects hellbat nerfs.
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Aaaand there is the reddit thread...
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Watching Mvp is like watching those old soccer stars who go to play in Japan and such before they retire.
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On May 02 2013 03:17 pmp10 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:15 TheDwf wrote:On May 02 2013 03:13 pmp10 wrote:
That was pretty disappointing.
I guess playing with lag is not in the curriculum of Korean terrans. Mech would have been worthwhile. That's kinda the point - MVP pretty much given up on mech in HotS. Maybe he expects hellbat nerfs.
have we seen much Mvp at all in HotS?
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Wow, Strelok 4-0, Dimaga 4-0; Ukraine is on a rampage.
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On May 02 2013 03:17 pmp10 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:15 TheDwf wrote:On May 02 2013 03:13 pmp10 wrote:
That was pretty disappointing.
I guess playing with lag is not in the curriculum of Korean terrans. Mech would have been worthwhile. That's kinda the point - MVP pretty much given up on mech in HotS. Maybe he expects hellbat nerfs.
Haven't seen any terran beat any decent zerg with mech in a long time. I recall Maru tried mech in gsl and got slapped.
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don't worry, mvp could 2-0 the last toss in this group
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On May 02 2013 03:17 pmp10 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:15 TheDwf wrote:On May 02 2013 03:13 pmp10 wrote:
That was pretty disappointing.
I guess playing with lag is not in the curriculum of Korean terrans. Mech would have been worthwhile. That's kinda the point - MVP pretty much given up on mech in HotS. Maybe he expects hellbat nerfs.
Not sure I like mech in TvZ. If you don't do a Ret and actually make the right units you can easily take it head on.
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On May 02 2013 03:15 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:13 pmp10 wrote:
That was pretty disappointing.
I guess playing with lag is not in the curriculum of Korean terrans. Mech would have been worthwhile.
Mech is never worthwhile.
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can people stop argue "meh lag" ?? they knew it they accepted it ... MC is going to germany for WCS EU as far as i heared so what hindered the rest of them ? why they choose EU ? easy money ? well here you go !
its just dima was great and won but NO people have to find WHY he won ... fuck that hes gosu
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Yes, please no more terrans, from only 3 groups that have been played we already got 5/16 players as terrans =/. For sure TvT is the best mirror but I whould rather watch any other non-mirror. Europe stay classy!
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On May 02 2013 03:18 sitromit wrote:
Watching Mvp is like watching those old soccer stars who go to play in Japan and such before they retire.
People has said that about MVP for so long and then he goes on and win another GSL
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On May 02 2013 03:18 Xoronius wrote:
Wow, Strelok 4-0, Dimaga 4-0; Ukraine is on a rampage.
And it's Kas time tomorrow
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On May 02 2013 03:18 Porishan wrote:
don't worry, mvp could 2-0 the last toss in this group
That's the basket my eggs are in, knew he wouldn't advance first if he was to advance. Did a cointoss inbetween socke and dimaga on my liquibet, and socke won.
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On May 02 2013 03:15 Darkthorn wrote:1/2 for me...time for MVP to advance...and I'm good to go You should have watched dimaga's play lately he's on a roll
Yeah i'll admit I'm rather clueless about most of the EU scene outside of the major events so I figured since I haven't seen Dimaga in a while that Socke might be better now :/
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you can just hear the dima smile through skype and its damn impossible not to smile as well listening to him :D
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On May 02 2013 03:19 Clefairy wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:15 TheDwf wrote:On May 02 2013 03:13 pmp10 wrote:
That was pretty disappointing.
I guess playing with lag is not in the curriculum of Korean terrans. Mech would have been worthwhile. Mech is never worthwhile.
If delay prevents you from microing efficiently your units in a unit composition reliant on micro, why not?
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Dimaga with the trademark Violet "I'm so exciting".
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On May 02 2013 03:19 CoR wrote:
can people stop argue "meh lag" ?? they knew it they accepted it ... MC is going to germany for WCS EU as far as i heared so what hindered the rest of them ? why they choose EU ? easy money ? well here you go !
its just dima was great and won but NO people have to find WHY he won ... fuck that hes gosu
It is by far the easiest of the 3 WCS tournaments but not so easy that you can play with that amount of lag and expect to win.
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"I talking with... somebody, OK :-)?"
<3 Dima
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DIMAGA! Wow! I used to watch his stream a lot back when I wanted to learn how to play zerg (don't know why lol it was always there).
Good to see him doing well!
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On May 02 2013 03:20 Tsubbi wrote:
you can just hear the dima smile through skype and its damn impossible not to smile as well listening to him :D
Anyone who can fathom hating on DIMAGA is lacking either a soul or a developed brain. <3
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On May 02 2013 03:18 sitromit wrote:
Watching Mvp is like watching those old soccer stars who go to play in Japan and such before they retire.
Should have gone to play in MLS like NesTea
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Congrats to Dimaga he looked really strong
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On May 02 2013 03:18 75 wrote:dimaga such a beast :D
nvr forget that moment, saw it live!
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On May 02 2013 03:20 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:15 Darkthorn wrote:On May 02 2013 03:13 Shellshock1122 wrote:
DIMAGA pooping on my liquibet gg 1/2 for me...time for MVP to advance...and I'm good to go You should have watched dimaga's play lately he's on a roll Yeah i'll admit I'm rather clueless about most of the EU scene outside of the major events so I figured since I haven't seen Dimaga in a while that Socke might be better now :/
Never bet on Socke. He either makes you scratch your head, bowing out to someone of perceived lower skill, or he's gone godlike and is killing your favorite Korean.
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On May 02 2013 03:21 jalstar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:19 CoR wrote:
can people stop argue "meh lag" ?? they knew it they accepted it ... MC is going to germany for WCS EU as far as i heared so what hindered the rest of them ? why they choose EU ? easy money ? well here you go !
its just dima was great and won but NO people have to find WHY he won ... fuck that hes gosu It is by far the easiest of the 3 WCS tournaments but not so easy that you can play with that amount of lag and expect to win.
what!? eu is harder than am for sure lol
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DIMAGA happy with Ultralisk.
Man, that man is so cool.
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On May 02 2013 03:21 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:18 sitromit wrote:
Watching Mvp is like watching those old soccer stars who go to play in Japan and such before they retire. Should have gone to play in MLS like NesTea
Or play in CA like KingKong.
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On May 02 2013 03:20 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:19 Clefairy wrote:On May 02 2013 03:15 TheDwf wrote:On May 02 2013 03:13 pmp10 wrote:
That was pretty disappointing.
I guess playing with lag is not in the curriculum of Korean terrans. Mech would have been worthwhile. Mech is never worthwhile. If delay prevents you from microing efficiently your units in a unit composition reliant on micro, why not?
Pre-splitting bio like MVP did isn't very effective but it's probably more effective than mech will ever be. It would be terrifying to move out with siege tanks with lag.
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On May 02 2013 03:19 CoR wrote:
can people stop argue "meh lag" ?? they knew it they accepted it ... MC is going to germany for WCS EU as far as i heared so what hindered the rest of them ? why they choose EU ? easy money ? well here you go !
its just dima was great and won but NO people have to find WHY he won ... fuck that hes gosu
mc is alread here and streamed a bit yesterday. some hillarious games on eu ladder where he danced his stalkers in the enemy base while dancing himself :D
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On May 02 2013 03:22 Tsubbi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:21 jalstar wrote:On May 02 2013 03:19 CoR wrote:
can people stop argue "meh lag" ?? they knew it they accepted it ... MC is going to germany for WCS EU as far as i heared so what hindered the rest of them ? why they choose EU ? easy money ? well here you go !
its just dima was great and won but NO people have to find WHY he won ... fuck that hes gosu It is by far the easiest of the 3 WCS tournaments but not so easy that you can play with that amount of lag and expect to win. what!? eu is harder than am for sure lol
not with 13 other koreans playing in AM
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On May 02 2013 03:23 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:22 Tsubbi wrote:On May 02 2013 03:21 jalstar wrote:On May 02 2013 03:19 CoR wrote:
can people stop argue "meh lag" ?? they knew it they accepted it ... MC is going to germany for WCS EU as far as i heared so what hindered the rest of them ? why they choose EU ? easy money ? well here you go !
its just dima was great and won but NO people have to find WHY he won ... fuck that hes gosu It is by far the easiest of the 3 WCS tournaments but not so easy that you can play with that amount of lag and expect to win. what!? eu is harder than am for sure lol not with 13 other koreans playing in AM
and Sen!
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On May 02 2013 03:18 namste wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:17 pmp10 wrote:On May 02 2013 03:15 TheDwf wrote:On May 02 2013 03:13 pmp10 wrote:
That was pretty disappointing.
I guess playing with lag is not in the curriculum of Korean terrans. Mech would have been worthwhile. That's kinda the point - MVP pretty much given up on mech in HotS. Maybe he expects hellbat nerfs. Haven't seen any terran beat any decent zerg with mech in a long time. I recall Maru tried mech in gsl and got slapped.
Strelok has been going mech pretty much all the time.
It's all about hellbat drops but clearly works for him so...
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On May 02 2013 03:19 CoR wrote:
can people stop argue "meh lag" ?? they knew it they accepted it ... MC is going to germany for WCS EU as far as i heared so what hindered the rest of them ? why they choose EU ? easy money ? well here you go !
its just dima was great and won but NO people have to find WHY he won ... fuck that hes gosu
Calm down, man. Dimaga played great but Mvp played like shit. Its more about finding out the reason why Mvp played so bad.
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On May 02 2013 03:22 Tsubbi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:21 jalstar wrote:On May 02 2013 03:19 CoR wrote:
can people stop argue "meh lag" ?? they knew it they accepted it ... MC is going to germany for WCS EU as far as i heared so what hindered the rest of them ? why they choose EU ? easy money ? well here you go !
its just dima was great and won but NO people have to find WHY he won ... fuck that hes gosu It is by far the easiest of the 3 WCS tournaments but not so easy that you can play with that amount of lag and expect to win. what!? eu is harder than am for sure lol
With the amount of Koreans in NA, I wouldn't be so sure.
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Tod English has improved a lot! It's nice to see him finding a good job, he used to be one of my favorite in TFT and I was a bit worried to not see him perform well in SC2.
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Feels so weird to want Dimaga to beat Mvp.
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Wait these games are live? Oh man it's brutal for MVP..
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Dimaga's English is actually pretty good.
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On May 02 2013 03:22 Tsubbi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:21 jalstar wrote:On May 02 2013 03:19 CoR wrote:
can people stop argue "meh lag" ?? they knew it they accepted it ... MC is going to germany for WCS EU as far as i heared so what hindered the rest of them ? why they choose EU ? easy money ? well here you go !
its just dima was great and won but NO people have to find WHY he won ... fuck that hes gosu It is by far the easiest of the 3 WCS tournaments but not so easy that you can play with that amount of lag and expect to win. what!? eu is harder than am for sure lol
HerO alone has stomped all the best EU players twice and then you have Polt, Violet, Oz, Alive, Ryung, NesTea..., it's not even close.
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I just realized that Mvp's next series is probably going to be starting at about 4:30 AM local time now. It really stings for him that he dropped that one. Fatigue has to be a factor.
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wow congratz dimaga, pretty solid êrformance here !
eu > kor ez ^^
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On May 02 2013 03:24 Bowzar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:19 CoR wrote:
can people stop argue "meh lag" ?? they knew it they accepted it ... MC is going to germany for WCS EU as far as i heared so what hindered the rest of them ? why they choose EU ? easy money ? well here you go !
its just dima was great and won but NO people have to find WHY he won ... fuck that hes gosu Calm down, man. Dimaga played great but Mvp played like shit. Its more about finding out the reason why Mvp played so bad.
Everybody just loves MVP and want him to him to win.
I dont hate Dimage, but i wish MVP was the first guy to advance today
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On May 02 2013 03:23 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:22 Tsubbi wrote:On May 02 2013 03:21 jalstar wrote:On May 02 2013 03:19 CoR wrote:
can people stop argue "meh lag" ?? they knew it they accepted it ... MC is going to germany for WCS EU as far as i heared so what hindered the rest of them ? why they choose EU ? easy money ? well here you go !
its just dima was great and won but NO people have to find WHY he won ... fuck that hes gosu It is by far the easiest of the 3 WCS tournaments but not so easy that you can play with that amount of lag and expect to win. what!? eu is harder than am for sure lol not with 13 other koreans playing in AM
How do you actually judge that?
Like, assuming all Koreans advance in AM, but all Koreans fail in EU (I know, fOrGG too stronk, but still), what metric do you use to judge the harder one?
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On May 02 2013 03:22 Tsubbi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:21 jalstar wrote:On May 02 2013 03:19 CoR wrote:
can people stop argue "meh lag" ?? they knew it they accepted it ... MC is going to germany for WCS EU as far as i heared so what hindered the rest of them ? why they choose EU ? easy money ? well here you go !
its just dima was great and won but NO people have to find WHY he won ... fuck that hes gosu It is by far the easiest of the 3 WCS tournaments but not so easy that you can play with that amount of lag and expect to win. what!? eu is harder than am for sure lol
not with all the Koreans in WCS NA :/
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On May 02 2013 03:23 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:22 Tsubbi wrote:On May 02 2013 03:21 jalstar wrote:On May 02 2013 03:19 CoR wrote:
can people stop argue "meh lag" ?? they knew it they accepted it ... MC is going to germany for WCS EU as far as i heared so what hindered the rest of them ? why they choose EU ? easy money ? well here you go !
its just dima was great and won but NO people have to find WHY he won ... fuck that hes gosu It is by far the easiest of the 3 WCS tournaments but not so easy that you can play with that amount of lag and expect to win. what!? eu is harder than am for sure lol not with 13 other koreans playing in AM
I think that there will be NA players in premier league in the upcoming seasons. The problem is they will never go past Ro32. And if 32 Koreans decide to play there, then....
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MVP has always been a favorite of mine but i can't say i'd be disappointed if he bombed out.
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DI-MA-GA  DI-MA-GA DI-MA-GA DI-MA-GA
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On May 02 2013 03:24 jalstar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:22 Tsubbi wrote:On May 02 2013 03:21 jalstar wrote:On May 02 2013 03:19 CoR wrote:
can people stop argue "meh lag" ?? they knew it they accepted it ... MC is going to germany for WCS EU as far as i heared so what hindered the rest of them ? why they choose EU ? easy money ? well here you go !
its just dima was great and won but NO people have to find WHY he won ... fuck that hes gosu It is by far the easiest of the 3 WCS tournaments but not so easy that you can play with that amount of lag and expect to win. what!? eu is harder than am for sure lol HerO alone has stomped all the best EU players twice and then you have Polt, Violet, Oz, Alive, Ryung, NesTea..., it's not even close.
Don't know if you should be too happy about that....I would have preffered it myself if it was NA players only in there.
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Besides all those good games Dimaga had today. I think its still a mess that so many koreans play in EU/AM. I hope in every game "let the foreigner win PLEASE". It makes me sad a little and the event less cooler
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On May 02 2013 03:26 Strela wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:24 jalstar wrote:On May 02 2013 03:22 Tsubbi wrote:On May 02 2013 03:21 jalstar wrote:On May 02 2013 03:19 CoR wrote:
can people stop argue "meh lag" ?? they knew it they accepted it ... MC is going to germany for WCS EU as far as i heared so what hindered the rest of them ? why they choose EU ? easy money ? well here you go !
its just dima was great and won but NO people have to find WHY he won ... fuck that hes gosu It is by far the easiest of the 3 WCS tournaments but not so easy that you can play with that amount of lag and expect to win. what!? eu is harder than am for sure lol HerO alone has stomped all the best EU players twice and then you have Polt, Violet, Oz, Alive, Ryung, NesTea..., it's not even close. Don't know if you should be too happy about that....I would have preffered it myself if it was NA players only in there.
Of course it would have been easier if it was NA players only Europe has much more depth than the American scene. But it's not American only
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On May 02 2013 03:24 geokilla wrote:
Wait these games are live? Oh man it's brutal for MVP..
Of course it's live !
No more cast from replay please (I am looking at you MLG).
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On May 02 2013 03:24 jalstar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:22 Tsubbi wrote:On May 02 2013 03:21 jalstar wrote:On May 02 2013 03:19 CoR wrote:
can people stop argue "meh lag" ?? they knew it they accepted it ... MC is going to germany for WCS EU as far as i heared so what hindered the rest of them ? why they choose EU ? easy money ? well here you go !
its just dima was great and won but NO people have to find WHY he won ... fuck that hes gosu It is by far the easiest of the 3 WCS tournaments but not so easy that you can play with that amount of lag and expect to win. what!? eu is harder than am for sure lol HerO alone has stomped all the best EU players twice and then you have Polt, Violet, Oz, Alive, Ryung, NesTea..., it's not even close.
You got to be kidding? we saw how well Polt and 2nd tier Koreans did in Dreamhack. You bring those guys. I bring
MVP, Stephano, MMA, Lucifron, Nerchio, Naniwa, Sase, Forgg
gl hf
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On May 02 2013 03:24 AgentW wrote:
I just realized that Mvp's next series is probably going to be starting at about 4:30 AM local time now. It really stings for him that he dropped that one. Fatigue has to be a factor.
Hopefully MVP gets a quick power nap in between.
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On May 02 2013 03:25 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:23 Shellshock1122 wrote:On May 02 2013 03:22 Tsubbi wrote:On May 02 2013 03:21 jalstar wrote:On May 02 2013 03:19 CoR wrote:
can people stop argue "meh lag" ?? they knew it they accepted it ... MC is going to germany for WCS EU as far as i heared so what hindered the rest of them ? why they choose EU ? easy money ? well here you go !
its just dima was great and won but NO people have to find WHY he won ... fuck that hes gosu It is by far the easiest of the 3 WCS tournaments but not so easy that you can play with that amount of lag and expect to win. what!? eu is harder than am for sure lol not with 13 other koreans playing in AM How do you actually judge that? Like, assuming all Koreans advance in AM, but all Koreans fail in EU (I know, fOrGG too stronk, but still), what metric do you use to judge the harder one?
Well, the caliber of Koreans residing in EU is not the sickest, but I do think that the strongest foreigners are better than the best of NA, who are getting stomped. I think they are close, but NA seems hard. Koreans will also struggle with lag if they aren't in EU.
WCS KR all the way. 
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On May 02 2013 03:24 jalstar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:22 Tsubbi wrote:On May 02 2013 03:21 jalstar wrote:On May 02 2013 03:19 CoR wrote:
can people stop argue "meh lag" ?? they knew it they accepted it ... MC is going to germany for WCS EU as far as i heared so what hindered the rest of them ? why they choose EU ? easy money ? well here you go !
its just dima was great and won but NO people have to find WHY he won ... fuck that hes gosu It is by far the easiest of the 3 WCS tournaments but not so easy that you can play with that amount of lag and expect to win. what!? eu is harder than am for sure lol HerO alone has stomped all the best EU players twice and then you have Polt, Violet, Oz, Alive, Ryung, NesTea..., it's not even close.
HerO has won against many top EU players over the years, but he also lost to quite a few of them in this long time period and got 2-0ed last weekend by Kas as well. Let´s just agree that it is harder to reach ro16 in EU than in NA, winning the championship is probably harder in NA.
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On May 02 2013 03:24 jalstar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:22 Tsubbi wrote:On May 02 2013 03:21 jalstar wrote:On May 02 2013 03:19 CoR wrote:
can people stop argue "meh lag" ?? they knew it they accepted it ... MC is going to germany for WCS EU as far as i heared so what hindered the rest of them ? why they choose EU ? easy money ? well here you go !
its just dima was great and won but NO people have to find WHY he won ... fuck that hes gosu It is by far the easiest of the 3 WCS tournaments but not so easy that you can play with that amount of lag and expect to win. what!? eu is harder than am for sure lol HerO alone has stomped all the best EU players twice and then you have Polt, Violet, Oz, Alive, Ryung, NesTea..., it's not even close.
Did you miss Kas stomping HerO at Dreamhack ? Or grubby and huk beating Polt ?
HerO and Koreans are obviously ahead but it's not like they're untouchable...
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On May 02 2013 03:25 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:23 Shellshock1122 wrote:On May 02 2013 03:22 Tsubbi wrote:On May 02 2013 03:21 jalstar wrote:On May 02 2013 03:19 CoR wrote:
can people stop argue "meh lag" ?? they knew it they accepted it ... MC is going to germany for WCS EU as far as i heared so what hindered the rest of them ? why they choose EU ? easy money ? well here you go !
its just dima was great and won but NO people have to find WHY he won ... fuck that hes gosu It is by far the easiest of the 3 WCS tournaments but not so easy that you can play with that amount of lag and expect to win. what!? eu is harder than am for sure lol not with 13 other koreans playing in AM How do you actually judge that? Like, assuming all Koreans advance in AM, but all Koreans fail in EU (I know, fOrGG too stronk, but still), what metric do you use to judge the harder one?
I don't get what you're asking. Are you saying it's easiesr for the Koreans because they all advance because they get to play NA players?
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i'd say WCSEU RO32 > WCSAM RO32 (average), but WCSAM might comes ahead in ro16 due to non koreans being out
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On May 02 2013 03:28 Benjamin99 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:24 jalstar wrote:On May 02 2013 03:22 Tsubbi wrote:On May 02 2013 03:21 jalstar wrote:On May 02 2013 03:19 CoR wrote:
can people stop argue "meh lag" ?? they knew it they accepted it ... MC is going to germany for WCS EU as far as i heared so what hindered the rest of them ? why they choose EU ? easy money ? well here you go !
its just dima was great and won but NO people have to find WHY he won ... fuck that hes gosu It is by far the easiest of the 3 WCS tournaments but not so easy that you can play with that amount of lag and expect to win. what!? eu is harder than am for sure lol HerO alone has stomped all the best EU players twice and then you have Polt, Violet, Oz, Alive, Ryung, NesTea..., it's not even close. You got to be kidding? we saw how well Polt and 2nd tier Koreans did in Dreamhack. You bring those guys. I bring MVP, Stephano, MMA, Lucifron, Nerchio, Naniwa, Sase, Forgg gl hf
IIRC, Polt was ill. I think your bias is showing through. It's not even close.
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On May 02 2013 03:17 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:15 Huragius wrote:On May 02 2013 03:13 TheDwf wrote:On May 02 2013 03:11 Huragius wrote:
Why didn't lift his Barracks/Factories/Starport ? That was so sloppy. Yes, that would have made so much difference... It wouldn't. But when you base race, you always want to get as much as advantage as you can as a Terran. And letting half of his production facilities to die for absolutely nothing is really sloppy for a player of this caliber. Or he had already lost and knew it, so saving one extra fact and a few rax wouldn't have mattered at all.
So why not leave immediately after he knew that ? Some logical issues in your arguments.
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On May 02 2013 03:29 DOUDOU wrote:
i'd say WCSEU RO32 > WCSAM RO32 (average), but WCSAM might comes ahead in ro16 due to non koreans being out
Ditto.
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On May 02 2013 03:29 DOUDOU wrote:
i'd say WCSEU RO32 > WCSAM RO32 (average), but WCSAM might comes ahead in ro16 due to non koreans being out
yes I could agree with that. a large number of the AM ro32 groups seem like formalities rather than a round of the tournament ^^ Ro16 is where the real games start
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On May 02 2013 03:29 DOUDOU wrote:
i'd say WCSEU RO32 > WCSAM RO32 (average), but WCSAM might comes ahead in ro16 due to non koreans being out
Yeap.
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On May 02 2013 03:27 Bermuda wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:24 geokilla wrote:
Wait these games are live? Oh man it's brutal for MVP.. Of course it's live ! No more cast from replay please (I am looking at you MLG).
Well I'd rather have New York skyline in the background than live cast!
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Oh God Siw supply blocks TT
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On May 02 2013 03:28 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:25 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On May 02 2013 03:23 Shellshock1122 wrote:On May 02 2013 03:22 Tsubbi wrote:On May 02 2013 03:21 jalstar wrote:On May 02 2013 03:19 CoR wrote:
can people stop argue "meh lag" ?? they knew it they accepted it ... MC is going to germany for WCS EU as far as i heared so what hindered the rest of them ? why they choose EU ? easy money ? well here you go !
its just dima was great and won but NO people have to find WHY he won ... fuck that hes gosu It is by far the easiest of the 3 WCS tournaments but not so easy that you can play with that amount of lag and expect to win. what!? eu is harder than am for sure lol not with 13 other koreans playing in AM How do you actually judge that? Like, assuming all Koreans advance in AM, but all Koreans fail in EU (I know, fOrGG too stronk, but still), what metric do you use to judge the harder one? I don't get what you're asking. Are you saying it's easiesr for the Koreans because they all advance because they get to play NA players?
Yeah.
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Does anyone know why the Russian stream misses delay again?
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On May 02 2013 03:30 namste wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:27 Bermuda wrote:On May 02 2013 03:24 geokilla wrote:
Wait these games are live? Oh man it's brutal for MVP.. Of course it's live ! No more cast from replay please (I am looking at you MLG). Well I'd rather have New York skyline in the background than live cast!
Joke aside, is it really casted from replays ?
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On May 02 2013 03:31 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:28 Shellshock1122 wrote:On May 02 2013 03:25 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On May 02 2013 03:23 Shellshock1122 wrote:On May 02 2013 03:22 Tsubbi wrote:On May 02 2013 03:21 jalstar wrote:On May 02 2013 03:19 CoR wrote:
can people stop argue "meh lag" ?? they knew it they accepted it ... MC is going to germany for WCS EU as far as i heared so what hindered the rest of them ? why they choose EU ? easy money ? well here you go !
its just dima was great and won but NO people have to find WHY he won ... fuck that hes gosu It is by far the easiest of the 3 WCS tournaments but not so easy that you can play with that amount of lag and expect to win. what!? eu is harder than am for sure lol not with 13 other koreans playing in AM How do you actually judge that? Like, assuming all Koreans advance in AM, but all Koreans fail in EU (I know, fOrGG too stronk, but still), what metric do you use to judge the harder one? I don't get what you're asking. Are you saying it's easiesr for the Koreans because they all advance because they get to play NA players? Yeah.
I would say it's easier to advance earlier but harder to win
On May 02 2013 03:31 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:30 namste wrote:On May 02 2013 03:27 Bermuda wrote:On May 02 2013 03:24 geokilla wrote:
Wait these games are live? Oh man it's brutal for MVP.. Of course it's live ! No more cast from replay please (I am looking at you MLG). Well I'd rather have New York skyline in the background than live cast! Joke aside, is it really casted from replays ?
no it's live
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On May 02 2013 03:31 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:30 namste wrote:On May 02 2013 03:27 Bermuda wrote:On May 02 2013 03:24 geokilla wrote:
Wait these games are live? Oh man it's brutal for MVP.. Of course it's live ! No more cast from replay please (I am looking at you MLG). Well I'd rather have New York skyline in the background than live cast! Joke aside, is it really casted from replays ?
MLG qualifiers were at least, I haven't seen any of the actual wcs ro32 stuff as it's 5 am for me.
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On May 02 2013 03:31 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:30 namste wrote:On May 02 2013 03:27 Bermuda wrote:On May 02 2013 03:24 geokilla wrote:
Wait these games are live? Oh man it's brutal for MVP.. Of course it's live ! No more cast from replay please (I am looking at you MLG). Well I'd rather have New York skyline in the background than live cast! Joke aside, is it really casted from replays ?
No, I believe all regions are playing all games live.
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On May 02 2013 03:31 grs wrote:
Does anyone know why the Russian stream misses delay again?
They are Russians. That's pretty much it.
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On May 02 2013 03:29 Huragius wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:17 TheDwf wrote:On May 02 2013 03:15 Huragius wrote:On May 02 2013 03:13 TheDwf wrote:On May 02 2013 03:11 Huragius wrote:
Why didn't lift his Barracks/Factories/Starport ? That was so sloppy. Yes, that would have made so much difference... It wouldn't. But when you base race, you always want to get as much as advantage as you can as a Terran. And letting half of his production facilities to die for absolutely nothing is really sloppy for a player of this caliber. Or he had already lost and knew it, so saving one extra fact and a few rax wouldn't have mattered at all. So why not leave immediately after he knew that ? Some logical issues in your arguments.
Because he could still try with his army, hoping for some kind of miracle, and the number of buildings he retained was irrelevant for this attempt.
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On May 02 2013 03:28 geokilla wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:24 AgentW wrote:
I just realized that Mvp's next series is probably going to be starting at about 4:30 AM local time now. It really stings for him that he dropped that one. Fatigue has to be a factor. Hopefully MVP gets a quick power nap in between.
Does a power nap help at that hour? I'd rather make a nice strong coffee and have something to eat...
edit: also the longer this series goes, the more tired the winner will be.
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On May 02 2013 03:34 JustPassingBy wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:28 geokilla wrote:On May 02 2013 03:24 AgentW wrote:
I just realized that Mvp's next series is probably going to be starting at about 4:30 AM local time now. It really stings for him that he dropped that one. Fatigue has to be a factor. Hopefully MVP gets a quick power nap in between. Does a power nap help at that hour? I'd rather make a nice strong coffee and have something to eat...
He's sponsored by Burn. ^_^ Drink 3 of those.
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On May 02 2013 03:33 AlternativeEgo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:31 grs wrote:
Does anyone know why the Russian stream misses delay again? They are Russians. That's pretty much it.
That is really bad again. I don't know why it is not possible to stop them from doing that in such a big tourney.
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Northern Ireland25347 Posts
Why do people keep saying '2nd tier Koreans' about Dreamhack when the lineup included
Leenock, Gumiho, Polt, HerO et al?
Unless you put Life/Innovation/Flash on a tier above everyone, those guys are all players who can compete in Code S when they're in form.
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I find mothership core color to be quite confusing they both seem blue..
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On May 02 2013 03:34 JustPassingBy wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:28 geokilla wrote:On May 02 2013 03:24 AgentW wrote:
I just realized that Mvp's next series is probably going to be starting at about 4:30 AM local time now. It really stings for him that he dropped that one. Fatigue has to be a factor. Hopefully MVP gets a quick power nap in between. Does a power nap help at that hour? I'd rather make a nice strong coffee and have something to eat... edit: also the longer this series goes, the more tired the winner will be.
My understanding is that a power nap is a power nap because it helps regardless of hour.
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Just get this PvP over with so we can see the Mvp game.
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Yup, Collossi are still great in PvP. :D
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United States97276 Posts
What if in PvP you could photon overcharge your opponent's nexus so it starts attacking him
but like if your opponent had his own mothership core nearby he could override it
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On May 02 2013 03:37 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:34 JustPassingBy wrote:On May 02 2013 03:28 geokilla wrote:On May 02 2013 03:24 AgentW wrote:
I just realized that Mvp's next series is probably going to be starting at about 4:30 AM local time now. It really stings for him that he dropped that one. Fatigue has to be a factor. Hopefully MVP gets a quick power nap in between. Does a power nap help at that hour? I'd rather make a nice strong coffee and have something to eat... edit: also the longer this series goes, the more tired the winner will be. My understanding is that a power nap is a power nap because it helps regardless of hour.
And I think that a power nap quickly turns into a full nap at that hour. ^.^"
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On May 02 2013 03:37 Shellshock1122 wrote:
What if in PvP you could photon overcharge your opponent's nexus so it starts attacking him
Then PvP becomes interesting
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On May 02 2013 03:37 Shellshock1122 wrote:
What if in PvP you could photon overcharge your opponent's nexus so it starts attacking him
Would be some short games then
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On May 02 2013 03:37 Shellshock1122 wrote:
What if in PvP you could photon overcharge your opponent's nexus so it starts attacking him
but like if your opponent had his own mothership core nearby he could override it
Think of the coin flips... do you send your core across the map to charge his nexus or leave it at your base to try and trap his core when it arrives???
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On May 02 2013 03:37 Shellshock1122 wrote:
What if in PvP you could photon overcharge your opponent's nexus so it starts attacking him
but like if your opponent had his own mothership core nearby he could override it
or you could snipe an expansion and recall into the main, snipe the production, then recall again back home. you'd need alot of MSC energy though.
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Well, that was a reminder why storm sucks in PvP lol
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On May 02 2013 03:38 Benjamin99 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:37 Shellshock1122 wrote:
What if in PvP you could photon overcharge your opponent's nexus so it starts attacking him Would be some short games then
Bring back that cannon on all buildings idea :p
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On May 02 2013 03:35 Wombat_NI wrote:
Why do people keep saying '2nd tier Koreans' about Dreamhack when the lineup included
Leenock, Gumiho, Polt, HerO et al?
Unless you put Life/Innovation/Flash on a tier above everyone, those guys are all players who can compete in Code S when they're in form.
The majority were 2nd tier. Leenock and Gumiho are top tier, Hero is not and Polt is a semi-pro right now.
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On May 02 2013 03:37 ngri wrote:
I find mothership core color to be quite confusing they both seem blue..
Agreed, they should fix that.
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On May 02 2013 03:39 vultdylan wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:37 Shellshock1122 wrote:
What if in PvP you could photon overcharge your opponent's nexus so it starts attacking him
but like if your opponent had his own mothership core nearby he could override it or you could snipe an expansion and recall into the main, snipe the production, then recall again back home. you'd need alot of MSC energy though.
Sounds about the same level of strat as I once thought of, what if you overlord drop locusts or broodlings! (not sure can you actually do it..)
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On May 02 2013 03:38 JustPassingBy wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:37 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On May 02 2013 03:34 JustPassingBy wrote:On May 02 2013 03:28 geokilla wrote:On May 02 2013 03:24 AgentW wrote:
I just realized that Mvp's next series is probably going to be starting at about 4:30 AM local time now. It really stings for him that he dropped that one. Fatigue has to be a factor. Hopefully MVP gets a quick power nap in between. Does a power nap help at that hour? I'd rather make a nice strong coffee and have something to eat... edit: also the longer this series goes, the more tired the winner will be. My understanding is that a power nap is a power nap because it helps regardless of hour. And I think that a power nap quickly turns into a full nap at that hour. ^.^"
The whole idea behind the power nap is to have the self-control to wake up after 20-30 mins. Or you can use caffeine. I'm sure Mvp is good enough at timing to figure out how to have the caffeine wake him up at precisely the right time. XD
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Agh, they excluded the German casters in the regame... :-/
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On May 02 2013 03:40 namste wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:39 vultdylan wrote:On May 02 2013 03:37 Shellshock1122 wrote:
What if in PvP you could photon overcharge your opponent's nexus so it starts attacking him
but like if your opponent had his own mothership core nearby he could override it or you could snipe an expansion and recall into the main, snipe the production, then recall again back home. you'd need alot of MSC energy though. Sounds about the same level of strat as I once thought of, what if you overlord drop locusts or broodlings! (not sure can you actually do it..)
Can't pick up temporary units iirc.
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On May 02 2013 03:35 Wombat_NI wrote:
Why do people keep saying '2nd tier Koreans' about Dreamhack when the lineup included
Leenock, Gumiho, Polt, HerO et al?
Because they were jetlagged, sleep deprived, suffered from anxiety in a foreign country and had food poisoning. Clearly they couldn't play they A-game.,
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On May 02 2013 03:40 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:38 JustPassingBy wrote:On May 02 2013 03:37 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On May 02 2013 03:34 JustPassingBy wrote:On May 02 2013 03:28 geokilla wrote:On May 02 2013 03:24 AgentW wrote:
I just realized that Mvp's next series is probably going to be starting at about 4:30 AM local time now. It really stings for him that he dropped that one. Fatigue has to be a factor. Hopefully MVP gets a quick power nap in between. Does a power nap help at that hour? I'd rather make a nice strong coffee and have something to eat... edit: also the longer this series goes, the more tired the winner will be. My understanding is that a power nap is a power nap because it helps regardless of hour. And I think that a power nap quickly turns into a full nap at that hour. ^.^" The whole idea behind the power nap is to have the self-control to wake up after 20-30 mins. Or you can use caffeine. I'm sure Mvp is good enough at timing to figure out how to have the caffeine wake him up at precisely the right time. XD
If Mvp is like me, caffeine will not do anything for him. :p
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On May 02 2013 03:42 scypio wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:35 Wombat_NI wrote:
Why do people keep saying '2nd tier Koreans' about Dreamhack when the lineup included
Leenock, Gumiho, Polt, HerO et al?
Because they were jetlagged, sleep deprived, suffered from anxiety in a foreign country and had food poisoning. Clearly they couldn't play they A-game.,
They had latency issues also you forgot that. Btw can anyone spell Siw real life name hehe?
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On May 02 2013 03:42 namste wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:40 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On May 02 2013 03:38 JustPassingBy wrote:On May 02 2013 03:37 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On May 02 2013 03:34 JustPassingBy wrote:On May 02 2013 03:28 geokilla wrote:On May 02 2013 03:24 AgentW wrote:
I just realized that Mvp's next series is probably going to be starting at about 4:30 AM local time now. It really stings for him that he dropped that one. Fatigue has to be a factor. Hopefully MVP gets a quick power nap in between. Does a power nap help at that hour? I'd rather make a nice strong coffee and have something to eat... edit: also the longer this series goes, the more tired the winner will be. My understanding is that a power nap is a power nap because it helps regardless of hour. And I think that a power nap quickly turns into a full nap at that hour. ^.^" The whole idea behind the power nap is to have the self-control to wake up after 20-30 mins. Or you can use caffeine. I'm sure Mvp is good enough at timing to figure out how to have the caffeine wake him up at precisely the right time. XD If Mvp is like me, caffeine will not do anything for him. :p
I know how that feels... :<
Energy drinks then.
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On May 02 2013 03:42 scypio wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:35 Wombat_NI wrote:
Why do people keep saying '2nd tier Koreans' about Dreamhack when the lineup included
Leenock, Gumiho, Polt, HerO et al?
Because they were jetlagged, sleep deprived, suffered from anxiety in a foreign country and had food poisoning. Clearly they couldn't play they A-game.,
No wrist issues?
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On May 02 2013 03:42 namste wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:40 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On May 02 2013 03:38 JustPassingBy wrote:On May 02 2013 03:37 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On May 02 2013 03:34 JustPassingBy wrote:On May 02 2013 03:28 geokilla wrote:On May 02 2013 03:24 AgentW wrote:
I just realized that Mvp's next series is probably going to be starting at about 4:30 AM local time now. It really stings for him that he dropped that one. Fatigue has to be a factor. Hopefully MVP gets a quick power nap in between. Does a power nap help at that hour? I'd rather make a nice strong coffee and have something to eat... edit: also the longer this series goes, the more tired the winner will be. My understanding is that a power nap is a power nap because it helps regardless of hour. And I think that a power nap quickly turns into a full nap at that hour. ^.^" The whole idea behind the power nap is to have the self-control to wake up after 20-30 mins. Or you can use caffeine. I'm sure Mvp is good enough at timing to figure out how to have the caffeine wake him up at precisely the right time. XD If Mvp is like me, caffeine will not do anything for him. :p
But he can't drink energy drinks either since they all sponsor enemy teams.
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On May 02 2013 03:43 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:42 scypio wrote:On May 02 2013 03:35 Wombat_NI wrote:
Why do people keep saying '2nd tier Koreans' about Dreamhack when the lineup included
Leenock, Gumiho, Polt, HerO et al?
Because they were jetlagged, sleep deprived, suffered from anxiety in a foreign country and had food poisoning. Clearly they couldn't play they A-game., No wrist issues?
Some say they even might have been pregnant.
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On May 02 2013 03:43 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:42 scypio wrote:On May 02 2013 03:35 Wombat_NI wrote:
Why do people keep saying '2nd tier Koreans' about Dreamhack when the lineup included
Leenock, Gumiho, Polt, HerO et al?
Because they were jetlagged, sleep deprived, suffered from anxiety in a foreign country and had food poisoning. Clearly they couldn't play they A-game., No wrist issues?
JYP touched them.
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On May 02 2013 03:43 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:42 namste wrote:On May 02 2013 03:40 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On May 02 2013 03:38 JustPassingBy wrote:On May 02 2013 03:37 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On May 02 2013 03:34 JustPassingBy wrote:On May 02 2013 03:28 geokilla wrote:On May 02 2013 03:24 AgentW wrote:
I just realized that Mvp's next series is probably going to be starting at about 4:30 AM local time now. It really stings for him that he dropped that one. Fatigue has to be a factor. Hopefully MVP gets a quick power nap in between. Does a power nap help at that hour? I'd rather make a nice strong coffee and have something to eat... edit: also the longer this series goes, the more tired the winner will be. My understanding is that a power nap is a power nap because it helps regardless of hour. And I think that a power nap quickly turns into a full nap at that hour. ^.^" The whole idea behind the power nap is to have the self-control to wake up after 20-30 mins. Or you can use caffeine. I'm sure Mvp is good enough at timing to figure out how to have the caffeine wake him up at precisely the right time. XD If Mvp is like me, caffeine will not do anything for him. :p But he can't drink energy drinks either since they all sponsor enemy teams.
Well they're sponsored by Burn, not sure what that is tho. Could be gasoline, a can of propane or energy drink.
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well at least I'm guaranteed that 1 liquibet point. Come on Mvp!
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On May 02 2013 03:45 namste wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:43 DarkLordOlli wrote:On May 02 2013 03:42 namste wrote:On May 02 2013 03:40 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On May 02 2013 03:38 JustPassingBy wrote:On May 02 2013 03:37 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On May 02 2013 03:34 JustPassingBy wrote:On May 02 2013 03:28 geokilla wrote:On May 02 2013 03:24 AgentW wrote:
I just realized that Mvp's next series is probably going to be starting at about 4:30 AM local time now. It really stings for him that he dropped that one. Fatigue has to be a factor. Hopefully MVP gets a quick power nap in between. Does a power nap help at that hour? I'd rather make a nice strong coffee and have something to eat... edit: also the longer this series goes, the more tired the winner will be. My understanding is that a power nap is a power nap because it helps regardless of hour. And I think that a power nap quickly turns into a full nap at that hour. ^.^" The whole idea behind the power nap is to have the self-control to wake up after 20-30 mins. Or you can use caffeine. I'm sure Mvp is good enough at timing to figure out how to have the caffeine wake him up at precisely the right time. XD If Mvp is like me, caffeine will not do anything for him. :p But he can't drink energy drinks either since they all sponsor enemy teams. Well they're sponsored by Burn, not sure what that is tho. Could be gasoline, a can of propane or energy drink.
Burn is an energy drink.
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On May 02 2013 03:43 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:42 scypio wrote:On May 02 2013 03:35 Wombat_NI wrote:
Why do people keep saying '2nd tier Koreans' about Dreamhack when the lineup included
Leenock, Gumiho, Polt, HerO et al?
Because they were jetlagged, sleep deprived, suffered from anxiety in a foreign country and had food poisoning. Clearly they couldn't play they A-game., No wrist issues?
Good point man, I have to put that on my list :D
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Can Socke take out MVP as well? MVP must be tired.
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Well, no need to be worried for Mvp anymore
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what an awful 1 gate expand build..
It's not too hard to hold with it, just need to stick to your own ramp while using overcharge on the natural. This Siw guy is just playing awful
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On May 02 2013 03:46 Shellshock1122 wrote: Socke vs  Mvp country kill is too bad
Shell :D
On May 02 2013 03:47 Markwerf wrote:
what an awful 1 gate expand build..
It's not too hard to hold with it, just need to stick to your own ramp while using overcharge on the natural. This Siw guy is just playing awful
I suggest you qualify to premier league and show us all how its done
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On May 02 2013 03:47 Benjamin99 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:46 Shellshock1122 wrote: Socke vs Mvp country kill is too bad Shell Denmark claim MVP
oh sorry I'll fix
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Change Mvp to Poland or I will get upset >:[
Edit: im appy :3
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Happy for my Ukraine boys!
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On May 02 2013 03:47 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:47 Benjamin99 wrote:On May 02 2013 03:46 Shellshock1122 wrote: Socke vs Mvp country kill is too bad Shell Denmark claim MVP oh sorry I'll fix
haha awesome:D
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I will trade Sortof for Mvp, deal?
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I thought MVP was from Italy?
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On May 02 2013 03:45 namste wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:43 DarkLordOlli wrote:On May 02 2013 03:42 namste wrote:On May 02 2013 03:40 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On May 02 2013 03:38 JustPassingBy wrote:On May 02 2013 03:37 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On May 02 2013 03:34 JustPassingBy wrote:On May 02 2013 03:28 geokilla wrote:On May 02 2013 03:24 AgentW wrote:
I just realized that Mvp's next series is probably going to be starting at about 4:30 AM local time now. It really stings for him that he dropped that one. Fatigue has to be a factor. Hopefully MVP gets a quick power nap in between. Does a power nap help at that hour? I'd rather make a nice strong coffee and have something to eat... edit: also the longer this series goes, the more tired the winner will be. My understanding is that a power nap is a power nap because it helps regardless of hour. And I think that a power nap quickly turns into a full nap at that hour. ^.^" The whole idea behind the power nap is to have the self-control to wake up after 20-30 mins. Or you can use caffeine. I'm sure Mvp is good enough at timing to figure out how to have the caffeine wake him up at precisely the right time. XD If Mvp is like me, caffeine will not do anything for him. :p But he can't drink energy drinks either since they all sponsor enemy teams. Well they're sponsored by Burn, not sure what that is tho. Could be gasoline, a can of propane or energy drink.
Oh, cool. Burn is a pretty good energy drink.
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@Wintex: I got WCS EU Group E up, I've got time for that
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On May 02 2013 03:50 Santi wrote:
I thought MVP was from Italy?
Country trades are now locked. I used too many this week. sorry
used up too many reassigning WCS AM. At least Snute graciously accepted his Canadian designation on twitter :D
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MVP for the netherlands because we have protos and zerg but no pro terrans in the top.. :/
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On May 02 2013 03:50 Yello wrote:@Wintex: I got WCS EU Group E up, I've got time for that
Great! Somewhere in this world, an Opterown was filled with happiness.
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Do anyone know which match-up is MVP best in Hots?
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On May 02 2013 03:50 Santi wrote:
I thought MVP was from Italy?
Tarson made him Polish during IEM Hannover
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On May 02 2013 03:52 Benjamin99 wrote:
Do anyone know which match-up is MVP best in Hots?
I dont think anyone has seen enough of him to say. His only recent Korea results are 2-0 vs MarineKing (which basically means nothing because he always beats him regardless of playing condition) and a 1-2 loss to BBoongBBoong.
Then we just have his play from MLG and IEM, but IEM was kind of worthless cause he started busting out bio + mines and no one knew how to deal with it yet compared to now.
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On May 02 2013 03:52 Benjamin99 wrote:
Do anyone know which match-up is MVP best in Hots?
Aligulac says it's about even
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I think Norway can change your mind, Shellbot. Mvp can be bought with all our oil money.
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Haha it says Mvp is already in ro16.
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On May 02 2013 03:54 Wintex wrote:
I think Norway can change your mind, Shellbot. Mvp can be bought with all our oil money.
KAG said Norway doesn't want him
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Boring downtime is boring.
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On May 02 2013 03:55 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:54 Wintex wrote:
I think Norway can change your mind, Shellbot. Mvp can be bought with all our oil money. KAG said Norway doesn't want him
KAG doesn't have rights? He gave those up when he ditched StarCraft for those DotA-esque games.
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On May 02 2013 03:56 geokilla wrote:
Boring downtime is boring.
Sounds from Jupiter soundtrack playing doesn't make it much more exciting either :/
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On May 02 2013 03:56 Wintex wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:55 Shellshock1122 wrote:On May 02 2013 03:54 Wintex wrote:
I think Norway can change your mind, Shellbot. Mvp can be bought with all our oil money. KAG said Norway doesn't want him KAG doesn't have rights? He gave those up when he ditched StarCraft for those DotA-esque games.
KAG's a bit of a whore like that.
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On May 02 2013 03:52 Vertitto wrote:Tarson made him Polish during IEM Hannover
yeah, this is the only thing that counts. Mvp is actually Polish now.
Wintex: opterown is a bot, I don't think electric circuits can be happy :p
On May 02 2013 03:56 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:56 Wintex wrote:On May 02 2013 03:55 Shellshock1122 wrote:On May 02 2013 03:54 Wintex wrote:
I think Norway can change your mind, Shellbot. Mvp can be bought with all our oil money. KAG said Norway doesn't want him KAG doesn't have rights? He gave those up when he ditched StarCraft for those DotA-esque games. KAG's a bit of a whore like that.
he's still my most favorite whore though
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On May 02 2013 03:57 Wintex wrote:Poll: What is more visually pleasing?New York skyline (52) 71% WCS EU monitors (20) 27% MLG crowd shots (1) 1% 73 total votes Your vote: What is more visually pleasing? (Vote): New York skyline
(Vote): WCS EU monitors
(Vote): MLG crowd shots
option 4: Kaelaris and Tod arguing without saying anything
Because somehow the sound just cut out for me
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Skyline all the way, one of the best things about WCS NA.
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Wow someone voted MLG crowd shots. wtf
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I had no sound as well but after refreshing once it worked again. I still think just showing Kaelaris and Tod would be the most visually pleasing thing to see in the break :D
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On May 02 2013 03:59 Bagi wrote:
Skyline all the way, one of the best things about WCS NA.
haha
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please MVP don't make me sad
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Goooooooooooo Sockeeeeeeeeeee!!!! Make it happen, knock out MVP.
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ToD is such a great commentator :D
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Oh god Socke, you have the devil's own luck...
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oh wow. Socke playing so cheesy O_o
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I wish he would have seen the DT shrine with the scan ;-)
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MVP is so bad now, gotta get those wrists fixed
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mvp losing stim and combat shield is huge.
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Most damage I've seen from DTs in a pro game in like, forever.
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On May 02 2013 04:09 TTOMZ wrote:
MVP is so bad now, gotta get those wrists fixed
and hes playing from korea and its late there. and he needs to pee, otherwise he would have been through already
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Go Socke! Don't wait, attack now!
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On May 02 2013 04:09 TTOMZ wrote:
MVP is so bad now, gotta get those wrists fixed
Your comment is incredibly stupid.
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On May 02 2013 04:09 Gescom wrote:
Most damage I've seen from DTs in a pro game in like, forever.
Should have seen Titan - Thorzain yesterday.
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On May 02 2013 04:10 pmp10 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 04:09 Gescom wrote:
Most damage I've seen from DTs in a pro game in like, forever. Should have seen Titan - Thorzain yesterday.
Maybe Socke will throw as well? x-D
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Fail your 2 base all in? np do some DT.
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On May 02 2013 04:09 Wintex wrote:
#Ihateprotoss2013
I want to report you for racism but you're the op
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On May 02 2013 04:10 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 04:09 TTOMZ wrote:
MVP is so bad now, gotta get those wrists fixed Your comment is incredibly stupid.
Not really
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On May 02 2013 04:10 Doublemint wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 04:10 pmp10 wrote:On May 02 2013 04:09 Gescom wrote:
Most damage I've seen from DTs in a pro game in like, forever. Should have seen Titan - Thorzain yesterday. Maybe Socke will throw as well? x-D
He just have to camp the third all game long and he has this game on a silver plate.
Hilarious DTs btw, somebody called me in the middle of it and my benny hill ringtone made it better.
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On May 02 2013 04:10 AlternativeEgo wrote:I want to report you for racism but you're the op
Man, you should have seen me when sOs cheesed Bomber outta the game. I really wanted long games. TT
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On May 02 2013 04:10 HugzForL wrote:
Fail your 2 base all in? np do some DT.
Oh and randomly hit a timing where Stim and Combat Shield are 20 seconds away from completion.
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On May 02 2013 04:10 HugzForL wrote:
Fail your 2 base all in? np do some DT.
Lol, seems to be the case.
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watching MVP play nowadays is just making me sad.
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I hope Socke never wins another game.
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Templar pretty good unit!
On May 02 2013 04:13 geokilla wrote:
MVP vs lag. Lag wins.
Yes because lag made him call down a mule so he couldn't scan
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YES
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Socke & Dimaga advancing would be perfect, gogogo!
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Missed the game, someone can do a quick recap? ♥♥♥
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Europe's saying GTFO to MVP.
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On May 02 2013 04:13 geokilla wrote:
MVP vs lag. Lag wins.
Cause he would have more energy for scans and better scouting without the lag, right?
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nooo mvp dont get knocked out :3
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I hope Socke takes out Mvp. Socke is awesome!
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MVP GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER!
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God I hate dark templars :|
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On May 02 2013 04:09 TTOMZ wrote:
MVP is so bad now, gotta get those wrists fixed
haha get your brain fixed. Give his opponents some respcet, they absolutely deserve it!
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On May 02 2013 04:13 geokilla wrote:
MVP vs lag. Lag wins.
Mvp vs no depot to have vision of his whole base. No depot wins.
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On May 02 2013 04:13 geokilla wrote:
MVP vs lag. Lag wins.
Still not an excuse.
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On May 02 2013 04:13 DJHelium wrote:
Missed the game, someone can do a quick recap? ♥♥♥
Socke went DT drop and denied stim and combat shields. did a lot of damage.
Socke went ahead in tech and upgrades and econ.
Socke denied mvp's third.
GG.
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hehe all the ppl saying ezpz for mvp and he won't drop a map :D
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On May 02 2013 04:13 geokilla wrote:
MVP vs lag. Lag wins.
He wasn't forced to play in EU.
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On May 02 2013 04:14 Sated wrote:
Korean problems: My macro is so good that I can't scan Dark Templar.
#420KoreanPROblems.
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"why did i not play WCS NA" MVP asking himself now?
EU standin it's ground. It's even better that Dimaga is bossing himself through.
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To be honest, Socke played awesome. A really good DT micro with alot of damage. I think its totally fine he won map1
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Didn't realise until now Kaelaris is actually a very handsome man. He would look better without that long hair hanging in his back though.
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Everyone......... 64% predicted MVP
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Mykhailo Gaida @Empire_Kas
Go out MVP, " THIS IS EUROPEEEEEEEEE" !!!
haha :D
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On May 02 2013 04:13 Champloo wrote:Cause he would have more energy for scans and better scouting without the lag, right?
Internet connection draining all that energy.
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On May 02 2013 04:13 Mouzone wrote:
Europe's saying GTFO to MVP.
Yep gtfo mvp. Korea or America need him not Europe.
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On May 02 2013 04:12 Wintex wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 04:10 AlternativeEgo wrote:On May 02 2013 04:09 Wintex wrote:
#Ihateprotoss2013 I want to report you for racism but you're the op Man, you should have seen me when sOs cheesed Bomber outta the game. I really wanted long games. TT
We still had a happy ending though.
I'm not sure what to feel about this series. This "Europe holds" thing is quite funny but he's the goddamn Mvp. We can't lose him this early. :/
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On May 02 2013 04:13 geokilla wrote:
MVP vs lag. Lag wins.
Just stop with this bullshit. No one forced any korean to play on EU. Its their fault if they lose because of bad konditions.
Give Socke some credit dammit
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Kaelaris has the mooooves
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Holy hell what did Dimaga do against Mvp?
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On May 02 2013 04:16 ZenithM wrote:
Holy hell what did Dimaga do against Mvp?
Crushed him :D
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On May 02 2013 04:16 ZenithM wrote:
Holy hell what did Dimaga do against Mvp?
mass ling into ultra infestor. mvp looked lost.
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Well, this is what happens when you get caught by DT play without turrets built and a scan. Even if it takes 20 sec for a scan, DTs will do so much damage that it will not be possible to come back. They are incredibly strong in HotS, and no longer committing.
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Not sure about that cc first on lowground..
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On May 02 2013 04:16 ZenithM wrote:
Holy hell what did Dimaga do against Mvp?
Mvp had to presplit so 33% of his army was firing due to lag. ling bane ultra muta etc. He played well.
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So many disappointed Mvp fans here making excuses.
Socke played out that game very well. DIMAGA crushed him. Even if lag is a factor, both europeans played better than Mvp in multiple ways. Get real and just swallow your disappointment like grown ups.
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On May 02 2013 04:14 vultdylan wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 04:13 DJHelium wrote:
Missed the game, someone can do a quick recap? ♥♥♥ Socke went DT drop and denied stim and combat shields. did a lot of damage. Socke went ahead in tech and upgrades and econ. Socke denied mvp's third. GG.
Thanks a ton!
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On May 02 2013 04:13 geokilla wrote:
MVP vs lag. Lag wins.
Defender's advantage
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On May 02 2013 04:17 Huragius wrote:
Well, this is what happens when you get caught by DT play without turrets built and a scan. Even if it takes 20 sec for a scan, DTs will do so much damage that it will not be possible to come back. They are incredibly strong in HotS, and no longer committing.
hehe I see what u did there :D
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Mvp can come back but I'm rooting for Socke. Go Europe
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On May 02 2013 04:17 Huragius wrote:
Well, this is what happens when you get caught by DT play without turrets built and a scan. Even if it takes 20 sec for a scan, DTs will do so much damage that it will not be possible to come back. They are incredibly strong in HotS, and no longer committing.
Not really. Even though the shrine is cheaper, Dts are still a heavy commitment. If Mvp had 1 or 2 turrets Socke is just dead.
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On May 02 2013 04:15 AlternativeEgo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 04:12 Wintex wrote:On May 02 2013 04:10 AlternativeEgo wrote:On May 02 2013 04:09 Wintex wrote:
#Ihateprotoss2013 I want to report you for racism but you're the op Man, you should have seen me when sOs cheesed Bomber outta the game. I really wanted long games. TT We still had a happy ending though. I'm not sure what to feel about this series. This "Europe holds" thing is quite funny but he's the goddamn Mvp. We can't lose him this early. :/
actually this is great, then koreans realize they have to come over here to play, which will raise the skill in the region
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ToD realy grown on my loving his casting.
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Socke is ruining everything!!! - ToD
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On May 02 2013 04:17 Wintex wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 04:16 ZenithM wrote:
Holy hell what did Dimaga do against Mvp? Mvp had to presplit so 33% of his army was firing due to lag. ling bane ultra muta etc. He played well.
Yeah, I can see how KR->EU lag can fuck you up against that type of army haha.
That was really bad decision making from Mvp to choose Europe and not NA like the others :D
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On May 02 2013 04:15 AxiR wrote:Just stop with this bullshit. No one forced any korean to play on EU. Its their fault if they lose because of bad konditions. Give Socke some credit dammit
I doubt Socke cares that much about beating Mvp when he plays with such a big handicap.
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On May 02 2013 04:15 AlternativeEgo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 04:12 Wintex wrote:On May 02 2013 04:10 AlternativeEgo wrote:On May 02 2013 04:09 Wintex wrote:
#Ihateprotoss2013 I want to report you for racism but you're the op Man, you should have seen me when sOs cheesed Bomber outta the game. I really wanted long games. TT We still had a happy ending though. I'm not sure what to feel about this series. This "Europe holds" thing is quite funny but he's the goddamn Mvp. We can't lose him this early. :/
We still have MMA and Forgg.
At least MMA respects the competition and will travel to EU for his games. I would much rather see him go far.
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Lose Socke. Do it for the greater good of good games.
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antikorean fanboys gogo?
huge upset in the making here
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Lol, what an ugly stutter step :/ ;D
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On May 02 2013 04:19 Bagi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 04:15 AlternativeEgo wrote:On May 02 2013 04:12 Wintex wrote:On May 02 2013 04:10 AlternativeEgo wrote:On May 02 2013 04:09 Wintex wrote:
#Ihateprotoss2013 I want to report you for racism but you're the op Man, you should have seen me when sOs cheesed Bomber outta the game. I really wanted long games. TT We still had a happy ending though. I'm not sure what to feel about this series. This "Europe holds" thing is quite funny but he's the goddamn Mvp. We can't lose him this early. :/ We still have MMA and Forgg. At least MMA respects the competition and will travel to EU for his games. I would much rather see him go far.
I want MMA to win it all
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Is the reaper still alive?
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On May 02 2013 04:20 tozi wrote:
antikorean fanboys gogo?
huge upset in the making here
i prefer to think of myself more like a pro-european guy.
SOCKE CRUSH MVP!!!!!!!!!!
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On May 02 2013 04:19 Bagi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 04:15 AlternativeEgo wrote:On May 02 2013 04:12 Wintex wrote:On May 02 2013 04:10 AlternativeEgo wrote:On May 02 2013 04:09 Wintex wrote:
#Ihateprotoss2013 I want to report you for racism but you're the op Man, you should have seen me when sOs cheesed Bomber outta the game. I really wanted long games. TT We still had a happy ending though. I'm not sure what to feel about this series. This "Europe holds" thing is quite funny but he's the goddamn Mvp. We can't lose him this early. :/ We still have MMA and Forgg. At least MMA respects the competition and will travel to EU for his games. I would much rather see him go far.
Pretty easy for MMA to do that, considering his team just set up a house there
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Imagine a pack of stimmed marauders dropped in that golden corner of Sockes base.
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On May 02 2013 04:20 tozi wrote:
antikorean fanboys gogo?
huge upset in the making here
rooting for homeboys is now antikorean? TL at its best.
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WCS EU Europeans vs Koreans is the new eSF vs KeSPA although in a way it's the old one too
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Mvp is rather underwhelming gotta say.
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On May 02 2013 04:22 Popkiller wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 04:19 Bagi wrote:On May 02 2013 04:15 AlternativeEgo wrote:On May 02 2013 04:12 Wintex wrote:On May 02 2013 04:10 AlternativeEgo wrote:On May 02 2013 04:09 Wintex wrote:
#Ihateprotoss2013 I want to report you for racism but you're the op Man, you should have seen me when sOs cheesed Bomber outta the game. I really wanted long games. TT We still had a happy ending though. I'm not sure what to feel about this series. This "Europe holds" thing is quite funny but he's the goddamn Mvp. We can't lose him this early. :/ We still have MMA and Forgg. At least MMA respects the competition and will travel to EU for his games. I would much rather see him go far. Pretty easy for MMA to do that, considering his team just set up a house there
I am not sure if you are trying to tell that wasn't an option for MVP, because LGIM have an arrangement with SK (MC is right now on EU you know) so that shouldn't have been a problem for MVP neither.
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On May 02 2013 04:24 Godwrath wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 04:22 Popkiller wrote:On May 02 2013 04:19 Bagi wrote:On May 02 2013 04:15 AlternativeEgo wrote:On May 02 2013 04:12 Wintex wrote:On May 02 2013 04:10 AlternativeEgo wrote:On May 02 2013 04:09 Wintex wrote:
#Ihateprotoss2013 I want to report you for racism but you're the op Man, you should have seen me when sOs cheesed Bomber outta the game. I really wanted long games. TT We still had a happy ending though. I'm not sure what to feel about this series. This "Europe holds" thing is quite funny but he's the goddamn Mvp. We can't lose him this early. :/ We still have MMA and Forgg. At least MMA respects the competition and will travel to EU for his games. I would much rather see him go far. Pretty easy for MMA to do that, considering his team just set up a house there I am not sure if you are trying to tell that wasn't an option for MVP, since LGIM have an arrangement with SK (MC is right now on EU you know).
Seems rather poorly planned by LG-IM and Mvp. Oh well. Too late to do anything about it now. I guess they'll learn from this experience and make the adjustments next time.
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On May 02 2013 04:20 tozi wrote:
antikorean fanboys gogo?
huge upset in the making here
why do you have to be automatically anti korean when you are pro europe...
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Sick anti-timing by Mvp, attacking just after 2-2 finishes for Socke.
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DIe dirty toss. TT
I'm so saad now
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On May 02 2013 04:25 DJHelium wrote:
Sick anti-timing by Mvp, attacking just after 2-2 finishes for Socke.
Don't worry, socke got this
exploit lag till mvp taps out
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Mvp is about to get knocked out O.o
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High Templars out, good luck microing against those with lag.
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I wonder why MVP doesn't go mech at all? Would benifit him in this lag too, right?
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On May 02 2013 04:27 Quakie wrote:
I wonder why MVP doesn't go mech at all? Would benifit him in this lag too, right?
mech is not really good against toss.
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On May 02 2013 04:18 AxiR wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 04:17 Huragius wrote:
Well, this is what happens when you get caught by DT play without turrets built and a scan. Even if it takes 20 sec for a scan, DTs will do so much damage that it will not be possible to come back. They are incredibly strong in HotS, and no longer committing. Not really. Even though the shrine is cheaper, Dts are still a heavy commitment. If Mvp had 1 or 2 turrets Socke is just dead.
Not so much against Terran. You can still go Archon/Chargelot during mid game if terran decides to punish you for failed DT play.
And MVP seems to be out O_o
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they're playing so slow right now or is it just laggy???
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64% of people did not see this result coming. Go Dimaga and Socke!
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It's quite obvious that Mvp can't micro to save his life.
I don't even know if it's the lag or just his current condition...
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Hellbats are a nice addition.
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On May 02 2013 04:27 askmc70 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 04:27 Quakie wrote:
I wonder why MVP doesn't go mech at all? Would benifit him in this lag too, right? mech is not really good against toss.
If it works for Strelok it's good enough for Mvp ^^
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Socke botched the game with bad positioning/map awareness I think.
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Socke fells apart =( sad game
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Sockes positioning is just frustrating as hell to watch.
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On May 02 2013 04:29 ZenithM wrote:
It's quite obvious that Mvp can't micro to save his life.
I don't even know if it's the lag or just his current condition...
He's still very smart though :D
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I think socke had lagspikes
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To be fair, MVP didn't win that game. It's more like Socke lost it.
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As saddened as I am, Mvp deserves this for staying in Korea. He might've had health problems keeping him from travelling, but honestly it was just a really poor decision and I am disappointed he actually decided to play this from Korea. I would expect him to be a bit smarter than Finale and Tails. Hopefully he can barely edge out the win here.
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Socke going full foreigner!
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On May 02 2013 04:25 Doublemint wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 04:20 tozi wrote:
antikorean fanboys gogo?
huge upset in the making here why do you have to be automatically anti korean when you are pro europe...
When did I say anyone is antikorean? I meant to imply that I am a little antikorean in the WCSEU and WCSNA tournies. Came out wrong I guess
I'm rooting for Europe too....
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On May 02 2013 04:29 AlternativeEgo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 04:27 askmc70 wrote:On May 02 2013 04:27 Quakie wrote:
I wonder why MVP doesn't go mech at all? Would benifit him in this lag too, right? mech is not really good against toss. If it works for Strelok it's good enough for Mvp ^^
Slight difference in opposition skill level here.
Hellbats are good against heavy zealot compositions but your standard play they're only good for soaking storms.
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On May 02 2013 04:29 Gescom wrote:
Socke botched the game with bad positioning/map awareness I think.
PvT on that map is not really playable tho...
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On May 02 2013 04:30 Strela wrote:I think socke had lagspikes
JYP stealth infiltration in Germany for a well placed shoulder touch
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Mvp is playing on a thin line bewteen total annhilation and amazing control .
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so sloppy from both players
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Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 2?Yes! (8) 50% Nope! (5) 31% If you have time. (3) 19% 16 total votes Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 2? (Vote): Yes!
(Vote): If you have time.
(Vote): Nope!
Good job Socke. This is what I want. Those movements while the drop was flying towards the southern base was so indecisive I loved it.
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On May 02 2013 04:31 tozi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 04:25 Doublemint wrote:On May 02 2013 04:20 tozi wrote:
antikorean fanboys gogo?
huge upset in the making here why do you have to be automatically anti korean when you are pro europe... When did I say anyone is antikorean? I meant to imply that I am a little antikorean in the WCSEU and WCSNA tournies. Came out wrong I guess I'm rooting for Europe too....
That just makes you racist and you should be burned as a witch. :/
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See what you did guys ? Now MVP is mad and not even that lagfest is going to stop him from tearing socke a new one.
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On one hand I want Socke to win, because it is WCS EU and Europeans should be the ones playing in it.
On one hand I want Mvp to win, because no WCS without Mvp would just be weird.
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That GoT reference. Sick play by Mvp.
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Kaelaris actually looks a bit like Lannister.
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Dat awekward game of thrones joke ;D
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CMON MVP, YOU CAN DO IT!!!
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On May 02 2013 04:30 Kasaraki wrote:
As saddened as I am, Mvp deserves this for staying in Korea. He might've had health problems keeping him from travelling, but honestly it was just a really poor decision and I am disappointed he actually decided to play this from Korea. I would expect him to be a bit smarter than Finale and Tails. Hopefully he can barely edge out the win here.
Yeah that's what I think as well.
He got what he deserves, but that's still sad
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Lol, I haven't seen anyone go that full foreigner in a while. Socke just walking donating his army to Mvp time and time again.
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Now we all know, ToD does not watch Game of Thrones.
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On May 02 2013 04:29 ZenithM wrote:
It's quite obvious that Mvp can't micro to save his life.
I don't even know if it's the lag or just his current condition...
I play everyday on Korean server from Europe. The lagg has very little influence, you need 3-5 games and you are completly used to it.
Its currently 4:30 in the middle of the night in Korea, MVP is probably tired as fuck.
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On May 02 2013 04:32 Mouzone wrote:
Kaelaris actually looks a bit like Lannister.
Go to the OP and click on his name on the caster list.
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Poll: Who are you rooting for in Game 3?Socke (22) 54% Mvp (19) 46% 41 total votes Your vote: Who are you rooting for in Game 3? (Vote): Socke
(Vote): Mvp
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Come on Socke, third time's the charm!
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Taking a 4th base on that map vs MVP is quite ballsy. I wouldn't even feel that comfortable taking a 3rd.
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If Mvp gets to Ro16 and comes to Europe it should go way better.
Seeing him play like this is just... ugh
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On May 02 2013 04:32 Sated wrote:
Hard throw by Socke... giving MVP a chance.
What we read on these forums...
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On May 02 2013 04:33 Wintex wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 04:32 Mouzone wrote:
Kaelaris actually looks a bit like Lannister. Go to the OP and click on his name on the caster list.
WIN ! OMG hahahahahhaha
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Loved that Tod/Kaeleris chat there, haha
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To be fair at one point it looked like Socke had this.
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On May 02 2013 04:33 Wintex wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 04:32 Mouzone wrote:
Kaelaris actually looks a bit like Lannister. Go to the OP and click on his name on the caster list.
Ha!
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On May 02 2013 04:33 Dragt wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 04:29 ZenithM wrote:
It's quite obvious that Mvp can't micro to save his life.
I don't even know if it's the lag or just his current condition... I play everyday on Korean server from Europe. The lagg has very little influence, you need 3-5 games and you are completly used to it. Its currently 4:30 in the middle of the night in Korea, MVP is probably tired as fuck.
When I tried it it was impossible for me to play. But I guess it depends on so many things. Man only if there was no China in between Europe and South-Korea :/
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i have a question could socke choose a map and he has chosen whirlwind?
so, are the losers able to choose the next map?
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LOOL just noticed. Look to the left at the Replay pane on the TL menu. THE SECOND GAME. New York.
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On May 02 2013 04:35 Undead1993 wrote:
i have a question could socke choose a map and he has chosen whirlwind?
so, are the losers able to choose the next map?
As far as I know it should be losers' pick. That's how it is in GSL and it's supposed to be a mimic of GSL's format
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On May 02 2013 04:35 Undead1993 wrote:
i have a question could socke choose a map and he has chosen whirlwind?
so, are the losers able to choose the next map?
Yep, the loser choose map.
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On May 02 2013 04:33 Dragt wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 04:29 ZenithM wrote:
It's quite obvious that Mvp can't micro to save his life.
I don't even know if it's the lag or just his current condition... I play everyday on Korean server from Europe. The lagg has very little influence, you need 3-5 games and you are completly used to it. Its currently 4:30 in the middle of the night in Korea, MVP is probably tired as fuck.
Maybe you have a very good connection or you don't play Terran then. I currently have about a 1 real second lag to KR. That's greater than the firerate of unstimmed marines. Good luck stutter stepping with that.
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On May 02 2013 04:35 Sated wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 04:34 Ragnarork wrote:On May 02 2013 04:32 Sated wrote:
Hard throw by Socke... giving MVP a chance. What we read on these forums... How was that not a throw? He was miles ahead and he just constantly botched engagements and made bad decisions...
I think he didn't play that great, but seriously, that wasn't a throw. Mvp did a nice job of forcing him to split his army, something not really trivial to do right without spending too much time considering how much should go where.
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On May 02 2013 04:36 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 04:35 Undead1993 wrote:
i have a question could socke choose a map and he has chosen whirlwind?
so, are the losers able to choose the next map? As far as I know it should be losers' pick. That's how it is in GSL and it's supposed to be a mimic of GSL's format
hmm strange choices by socke then, against dimaga he had chosen planet s, which is obviously a bit zerg favored, and now he chooses such a big map, very hard to play against doom drops. :o
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Wtf Socke, you dare going straight into a macro game against MVP???
I don't know whether I should praise your bravery or laugh at your foolhardyness...
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On May 02 2013 04:30 Kasaraki wrote:
As saddened as I am, Mvp deserves this for staying in Korea. He might've had health problems keeping him from travelling, but honestly it was just a really poor decision and I am disappointed he actually decided to play this from Korea. I would expect him to be a bit smarter than Finale and Tails. Hopefully he can barely edge out the win here.
I dont think its health problems, he just doesnt like to stay outside of Korea.
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On May 02 2013 04:38 JustPassingBy wrote:
Wtf Socke, you dare going straight into a macro game against MVP???
I don't know whether I should praise your bravery or laugh at your foolhardyness...
thats socke for you, macro macro macro
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On May 02 2013 04:38 Bowzar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 04:30 Kasaraki wrote:
As saddened as I am, Mvp deserves this for staying in Korea. He might've had health problems keeping him from travelling, but honestly it was just a really poor decision and I am disappointed he actually decided to play this from Korea. I would expect him to be a bit smarter than Finale and Tails. Hopefully he can barely edge out the win here. I dont think its health problems, he just doesnt like to stay outside of Korea.
He doesn't like us but he likes our money well enough.
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On May 02 2013 04:38 Undead1993 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 04:36 Shellshock1122 wrote:On May 02 2013 04:35 Undead1993 wrote:
i have a question could socke choose a map and he has chosen whirlwind?
so, are the losers able to choose the next map? As far as I know it should be losers' pick. That's how it is in GSL and it's supposed to be a mimic of GSL's format hmm strange choices by socke then, against dimaga he had chosen planet s, which is obviously a bit zerg favored, and now he chooses such a big map, very hard to play against doom drops. :o
I think planet s is Protoss favored. 15-10 in favor of P, at least on KR.
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Whirlwind is a bad map for PvT isn't it?
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On May 02 2013 04:37 ZenithM wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 04:33 Dragt wrote:On May 02 2013 04:29 ZenithM wrote:
It's quite obvious that Mvp can't micro to save his life.
I don't even know if it's the lag or just his current condition... I play everyday on Korean server from Europe. The lagg has very little influence, you need 3-5 games and you are completly used to it. Its currently 4:30 in the middle of the night in Korea, MVP is probably tired as fuck. Maybe you have a very good connection or you don't play Terran then. I currently have about a 1 real second lag to KR. That's greater than the firerate of unstimmed marines. Good luck stutter stepping with that.
one real second lag, wow, that's unplayable even for amateur players.
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On May 02 2013 04:38 Bowzar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 04:30 Kasaraki wrote:
As saddened as I am, Mvp deserves this for staying in Korea. He might've had health problems keeping him from travelling, but honestly it was just a really poor decision and I am disappointed he actually decided to play this from Korea. I would expect him to be a bit smarter than Finale and Tails. Hopefully he can barely edge out the win here. I dont think its health problems, he just doesnt like to stay outside of Korea.
Still, had he traveld to Europe in time to adjust to the European time, I think his chances of advancing would be near 100%.
And with Rice living in Germany, chances are that he would be able to stay for free as well.
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On May 02 2013 04:40 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 04:38 Undead1993 wrote:On May 02 2013 04:36 Shellshock1122 wrote:On May 02 2013 04:35 Undead1993 wrote:
i have a question could socke choose a map and he has chosen whirlwind?
so, are the losers able to choose the next map? As far as I know it should be losers' pick. That's how it is in GSL and it's supposed to be a mimic of GSL's format hmm strange choices by socke then, against dimaga he had chosen planet s, which is obviously a bit zerg favored, and now he chooses such a big map, very hard to play against doom drops. :o I think planet s is Protoss favored. 15-10 in favor of P, at least on KR.
but all the casters said it is very hard to take a third on, so many lies
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On May 02 2013 04:40 Bagi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 04:38 Bowzar wrote:On May 02 2013 04:30 Kasaraki wrote:
As saddened as I am, Mvp deserves this for staying in Korea. He might've had health problems keeping him from travelling, but honestly it was just a really poor decision and I am disappointed he actually decided to play this from Korea. I would expect him to be a bit smarter than Finale and Tails. Hopefully he can barely edge out the win here. I dont think its health problems, he just doesnt like to stay outside of Korea. He doesn't like us but he likes our money well enough.
Lol he probably likes the fans, just not a fan of living outside of Korea.
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On May 02 2013 04:35 Undead1993 wrote:
i have a question could socke choose a map and he has chosen whirlwind?
so, are the losers able to choose the next map?
The maps are determined by map veto. Both players get to remove two maps each and whoever had to veto first also choses the first map.
In this case Mvp started and picked Newkirk as first map and Socke Neo Planet S as second. Whirlwind was the last remaining one.
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On May 02 2013 04:38 Undead1993 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 04:36 Shellshock1122 wrote:On May 02 2013 04:35 Undead1993 wrote:
i have a question could socke choose a map and he has chosen whirlwind?
so, are the losers able to choose the next map? As far as I know it should be losers' pick. That's how it is in GSL and it's supposed to be a mimic of GSL's format hmm strange choices by socke then, against dimaga he had chosen planet s, which is obviously a bit zerg favored, and now he chooses such a big map, very hard to play against doom drops. :o
actually iirc planet S is a very good map for protoss
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Why isn't socke researching storm, would it take too long?
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On May 02 2013 04:42 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 04:38 Undead1993 wrote:On May 02 2013 04:36 Shellshock1122 wrote:On May 02 2013 04:35 Undead1993 wrote:
i have a question could socke choose a map and he has chosen whirlwind?
so, are the losers able to choose the next map? As far as I know it should be losers' pick. That's how it is in GSL and it's supposed to be a mimic of GSL's format hmm strange choices by socke then, against dimaga he had chosen planet s, which is obviously a bit zerg favored, and now he chooses such a big map, very hard to play against doom drops. :o actually iirc planet S is a very good map for protoss
yeye i got it nvm then t.t
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Does ToD call warp prisms White-Ra prisms all of time or am I mishearing him haha?
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I don't see this working for Socke with the late third
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On May 02 2013 04:42 Sandermatt wrote:
Why isn't socke researching storm, would it take too long?
It's a very old build, Parting started this if you watched the first GSTL finals.
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I like what Socke is doing. He seems to have good builds and decision making.
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Lol I don't even know how Mvp can do this haha. So good.
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Oh socke. Just too indecisive.
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Wow this game got grimy real fast.
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Now this is a good action-packed game.
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NOOOO! How dare you to lose Socke? You are so close to get the big price ! COME ON!
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THANK YOU GOD. AND BY GOD I MEAN MVP )))
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What an ugly game, hahaha.
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Grrr...damn this MVP guy, always winning when he should not
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ARGH!!! FFS why you go macro against mvp, socke!
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MVP making Hellbats which owns Chargelots so hard, I think Socke is pretty dead from here.
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MVP gone f*ck my wrists mode!
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Socke's positioning is just .....
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so... mvp does pull a win huh...
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Lorning
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Get ready EU, Mvp is coming
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dammit socke, soo close ;;
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Do we get an interview from MVP?
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Socke
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fuck yeeaaah! :D Phew gave me quite a scare.
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man I thought Mvp was going to lose
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On May 02 2013 04:42 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 04:38 Undead1993 wrote:On May 02 2013 04:36 Shellshock1122 wrote:On May 02 2013 04:35 Undead1993 wrote:
i have a question could socke choose a map and he has chosen whirlwind?
so, are the losers able to choose the next map? As far as I know it should be losers' pick. That's how it is in GSL and it's supposed to be a mimic of GSL's format hmm strange choices by socke then, against dimaga he had chosen planet s, which is obviously a bit zerg favored, and now he chooses such a big map, very hard to play against doom drops. :o actually iirc planet S is a very good map for protoss
It's a very good map for protoss 2 base aggression. Socke seems to want to mass expand.
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Sloppy from Socke like the previous game.
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On May 02 2013 04:48 Bagi wrote:
Do we get an interview from MVP?
he's already asleep.
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hehe well played MVP.
Really good games this evening.
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the way better play won today guys
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Yay EU holds
LG-IMMvp
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I don't like TvP on Whirlwind. GG MVP.
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Wow, I didn't think he would actually make it, but Mvp fuck yeah. :D So happy, hopefully he learned his lesson for next season.
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Multitasking too stronk
Yay Mvp
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On May 02 2013 04:49 Godwrath wrote:Yay EU holds LG-IMMvp
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Noooooo, i'm so sad.
Better luck in Challenger league Socke!
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awesome!! never doubt MVP
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Socke really should have pushed MVP when they had the skirmish in the middle.
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Noooo Socke
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Mvp entered his tryhard mode, gg.
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MVP wins, rotterdam interview :D is he MVP's agent now?
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Whoo
I was a bit, but just a bit I promise, worried after the first match between them.
Also, ToD and Kael... is a surprisingly OK duo.
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Sick MVP multitask, Socke didn't respond perfectly.
Also, +3 armor is all well and good for the toss, but I don't think he had any weapons upgrades, and it's quite hard to kill bio with medivacs on gateway/immo/archon without weapon ups.
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Austria24417 Posts
Thanks Mvp for surviving the online part. He's always been terrible online.
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That was a lot closer than expected.... holy shit, bet MVP got scared there
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On May 02 2013 04:48 Lorning wrote:
Get ready EU, Mvp is coming
He played very impressive today yes....
+ Show Spoiler +bla bla bla lag wrist gf etc
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That's too bad. Poor positioning and decision making by Socke. His game plan otherwise seems pretty solid, though.
Well played, Socke, better luck next time!
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On May 02 2013 04:49 Godwrath wrote:Yay EU holds LG-IMMvp
Are you jelly, USA?
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On May 02 2013 04:49 govie wrote:
Made me smile aswell
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a valiant effort by Socke but Mvp's drop play was too strong. TT
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On May 02 2013 04:49 Godwrath wrote:Yay EU holds LG-IMMvp
Mvp best terran eu
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On May 02 2013 04:50 Strela wrote:He played very impressive today yes.... + Show Spoiler +bla bla bla lag wrist gf etc
Socke has a beard and moustache, I think he lost because of that.
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LOL can't get Mvp interview so they skype rotti! Hopefully ESL will provide translators @ offline Ro16
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On May 02 2013 04:51 namste wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 04:50 Strela wrote:On May 02 2013 04:48 Lorning wrote:
Get ready EU, Mvp is coming He played very impressive today yes.... + Show Spoiler +bla bla bla lag wrist gf etc Socke has a beard and moustache, I think he lost because of that.
Moustache terran is doing fine on Liquid tho. Maybe it's the combo.
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I think even if they had a translator, Mvp would have fallen asleep in his chair already.
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On May 02 2013 04:50 Zane wrote: Are you jelly, USA?
Nah, I already accepted WCS KR #2 I tune into WCS EU a lot more often than WCS america haha.
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On May 02 2013 04:52 onedayclose wrote:
LOL can't get Mvp interview so they skype rotti! Hopefully ESL will provide translators @ offline Ro16
They shouldnt have to but MCs manager will probably be around like always.
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Damn Socke so close! Now that MVP doesn't have to deal with KR-EU lag in the Ro16 he's basically set.
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Well I think Dimaga surprised all of us with his great play.
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Rotti talking in a cup phone
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umm more like 9am PST. only hardcore SC2 fans wake up that early
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On May 02 2013 04:53 Bowzar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 04:52 onedayclose wrote:
LOL can't get Mvp interview so they skype rotti! Hopefully ESL will provide translators @ offline Ro16 They shouldnt have to but MCs manager will probably be around like always.
Reis is playing football with MC, or they were at least couple of hours ago. Not anymore tho.
Man, I'm like some creepy stalker on twitter..
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I wish that wasn't as ugly as it actually was
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On May 02 2013 04:52 onedayclose wrote:
LOL can't get Mvp interview so they skype rotti! Hopefully ESL will provide translators @ offline Ro16
Isnt Mvp at Reis(i propably got the nick wrong) place in Germany right now?
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On May 02 2013 04:55 Frankon wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 04:52 onedayclose wrote:
LOL can't get Mvp interview so they skype rotti! Hopefully ESL will provide translators @ offline Ro16 Isnt Mvp at Rise(i propably got the nick wrong) place in Germany right now?
No Mvp is still in Korea.
and the SK korean-german guy is called Reis.
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Northern Ireland25347 Posts
On May 02 2013 03:40 Bowzar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:35 Wombat_NI wrote:
Why do people keep saying '2nd tier Koreans' about Dreamhack when the lineup included
Leenock, Gumiho, Polt, HerO et al?
Unless you put Life/Innovation/Flash on a tier above everyone, those guys are all players who can compete in Code S when they're in form. The majority were 2nd tier. Leenock and Gumiho are top tier, Hero is not and Polt is a semi-pro right now.
How is HerO not top tier, or Polt for that matter?
Anyway, had this open in another tab, back on-topic. Any games particularly worthwhile watching from this day's play folks? There seemed to be a lot of 'latency' cries in the LR, especially after the Dimaga games.
As an aside, I like to think I know most of the scene's players these days, but Siw is pretty much unknown to me. Despite him losing today I'd like to know a bit more about him if anybody has any interesting details?
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On May 02 2013 04:55 Frankon wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 04:52 onedayclose wrote:
LOL can't get Mvp interview so they skype rotti! Hopefully ESL will provide translators @ offline Ro16 Isnt Mvp at Rise(i propably got the nick wrong) place in Germany right now?
Reis.
No. He's in Korea. Reported by Ethan Ahn, Carmac and more.
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Haha.. that #nofluff interview :D
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On May 02 2013 04:55 Frankon wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 04:52 onedayclose wrote:
LOL can't get Mvp interview so they skype rotti! Hopefully ESL will provide translators @ offline Ro16 Isnt Mvp at Rise(i propably got the nick wrong) place in Germany right now?
Its Reis And no but MC is at Reis' Place in Düsseldorf.
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If Nestea is USA, apocalipse is from Brazil, where is mvp from? Cyprus?
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On May 02 2013 04:56 KingPaddy wrote:
Haha.. that #nofluff interview :D
Happy birthday!
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On May 02 2013 04:56 Ace Frehley wrote:
If Nestea is USA, apocalipse is from Brazil, where is mvp from? Cyprus?
Denmark
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On May 02 2013 04:56 Ace Frehley wrote:
If Nestea is USA, apocalipse is from Brazil, where is mvp from? Cyprus?
Few pages ago he was sold to Poland or Denmark, I'm not sure anymore.
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Surprised Mvp was able to win from Korea.
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Austria24417 Posts
I need that WCS song. It's some kind of rearrangement of Akkadian Empire by Audiomachine
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Dimaga as #1 is such an upset for me, and to think that Socke nearly made it out also...man. It was perhaps not the sexiest of games played but it sure was an interesting day.
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United States97276 Posts
NOOO I MISSED GAME 3!!! I had to move some stuff out of my apartment TT real life aggro
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On May 02 2013 04:57 Wintex wrote:Happy birthday!
Thank you!
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On May 02 2013 04:58 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Surprised Mvp was able to win from Korea.
I think it was more, that Socke lost it from Germany. So sad, he played well in all 3 games and then somehow completely fell apart in the last two. Congratz to MVP though, impressive result. I think he now finally has made his peace with TSL3.
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On May 02 2013 04:58 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Surprised Mvp was able to win from Korea.
Socke helped him out by botching a lead in 2 games. He went at least half foreigner, if not full foreigner.
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Missed the games but Mvp is lucky he was able to pull out a win playing from KR here, I don't think it was worth the risk.
Now the rest of the tournament is offline so he should win or place very high, but he could have lost here.
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VODs just arent the same TT but I'll watch anyways. Thanks
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On May 02 2013 04:55 Frankon wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 04:52 onedayclose wrote:
LOL can't get Mvp interview so they skype rotti! Hopefully ESL will provide translators @ offline Ro16 Isnt Mvp at Reis(i propably got the nick wrong) place in Germany right now?
the nick is correct, it's german for rice
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On May 02 2013 04:55 Frankon wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 04:52 onedayclose wrote:
LOL can't get Mvp interview so they skype rotti! Hopefully ESL will provide translators @ offline Ro16 Isnt Mvp at Reis(i propably got the nick wrong) place in Germany right now?
it's MC not MVP who is staying with Reis ( SK Staff ) in Germany lol
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On May 02 2013 05:19 Porishan wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 04:55 Frankon wrote:On May 02 2013 04:52 onedayclose wrote:
LOL can't get Mvp interview so they skype rotti! Hopefully ESL will provide translators @ offline Ro16 Isnt Mvp at Reis(i propably got the nick wrong) place in Germany right now? it's MC not MVP who is staying with Reis ( SK Staff ) in Germany lol
Makes me wonder why MC didn't join WCS EU from season 1, he could be playing his games right now without any lag.
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opterown
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On May 02 2013 05:22 Bagi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 05:19 Porishan wrote:On May 02 2013 04:55 Frankon wrote:On May 02 2013 04:52 onedayclose wrote:
LOL can't get Mvp interview so they skype rotti! Hopefully ESL will provide translators @ offline Ro16 Isnt Mvp at Reis(i propably got the nick wrong) place in Germany right now? it's MC not MVP who is staying with Reis ( SK Staff ) in Germany lol Makes me wonder why MC didn't join WCS EU from season 1, he could be playing his games right now without any lag.
he was in code S
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On May 01 2013 05:45 Benjamin99 wrote:
I think people is going to be very surprised by Siw
Yes, they were very surprised indeed!
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On May 02 2013 04:55 Wombat_NI wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:40 Bowzar wrote:On May 02 2013 03:35 Wombat_NI wrote:
Why do people keep saying '2nd tier Koreans' about Dreamhack when the lineup included
Leenock, Gumiho, Polt, HerO et al?
Unless you put Life/Innovation/Flash on a tier above everyone, those guys are all players who can compete in Code S when they're in form. The majority were 2nd tier. Leenock and Gumiho are top tier, Hero is not and Polt is a semi-pro right now. How is HerO not top tier, or Polt for that matter? Anyway, had this open in another tab, back on-topic. Any games particularly worthwhile watching from this day's play folks? There seemed to be a lot of 'latency' cries in the LR, especially after the Dimaga games. As an aside, I like to think I know most of the scene's players these days, but Siw is pretty much unknown to me. Despite him losing today I'd like to know a bit more about him if anybody has any interesting details?
A semi-pro who 3-0'd creator and BARELY lost 2-3 to life (at MLG). Damn. I wish I was semi-pro. Apparently it beats being full time in most situations. Also... doesn't HerO have better overall results than Gumiho? o:
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On May 02 2013 05:55 Alryk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 04:55 Wombat_NI wrote:On May 02 2013 03:40 Bowzar wrote:On May 02 2013 03:35 Wombat_NI wrote:
Why do people keep saying '2nd tier Koreans' about Dreamhack when the lineup included
Leenock, Gumiho, Polt, HerO et al?
Unless you put Life/Innovation/Flash on a tier above everyone, those guys are all players who can compete in Code S when they're in form. The majority were 2nd tier. Leenock and Gumiho are top tier, Hero is not and Polt is a semi-pro right now. How is HerO not top tier, or Polt for that matter? Anyway, had this open in another tab, back on-topic. Any games particularly worthwhile watching from this day's play folks? There seemed to be a lot of 'latency' cries in the LR, especially after the Dimaga games. As an aside, I like to think I know most of the scene's players these days, but Siw is pretty much unknown to me. Despite him losing today I'd like to know a bit more about him if anybody has any interesting details? A semi-pro who 3-0'd creator and BARELY lost 2-3 to life (at MLG). Damn. I wish I was semi-pro. Apparently it beats being full time in most situations. Also... doesn't HerO have better overall results than Gumiho? o:
or a semi-pro who bombed out of a more recent tournament to two foreigners in his best matchup hehe
also 3-1 creator
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Dimaga got so lucky Mvp was in korea. In both games Mvp was totally outplaying dimaga but sadly its hard to micro bio with that kind of ping. There were points in the game that mvp's units were just waiting.
Odds are Dimaga will end his run in Ro16.
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On May 02 2013 06:15 redviper wrote:
Dimaga got so lucky Mvp was in korea. In both games Mvp was totally outplaying dimaga but sadly its hard to micro bio with that kind of ping. There were points in the game that mvp's units were just waiting.
Odds are Dimaga will end his run in Ro16.
Really? I guess we watched different matches then. Dimaga played great. I'm not saying lag didn't hinder Mvp, but you can't take anything away from him.
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On May 02 2013 05:55 Alryk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 04:55 Wombat_NI wrote:On May 02 2013 03:40 Bowzar wrote:On May 02 2013 03:35 Wombat_NI wrote:
Why do people keep saying '2nd tier Koreans' about Dreamhack when the lineup included
Leenock, Gumiho, Polt, HerO et al?
Unless you put Life/Innovation/Flash on a tier above everyone, those guys are all players who can compete in Code S when they're in form. The majority were 2nd tier. Leenock and Gumiho are top tier, Hero is not and Polt is a semi-pro right now. How is HerO not top tier, or Polt for that matter? Anyway, had this open in another tab, back on-topic. Any games particularly worthwhile watching from this day's play folks? There seemed to be a lot of 'latency' cries in the LR, especially after the Dimaga games. As an aside, I like to think I know most of the scene's players these days, but Siw is pretty much unknown to me. Despite him losing today I'd like to know a bit more about him if anybody has any interesting details? A semi-pro who 3-0'd creator and BARELY lost 2-3 to life (at MLG). Damn. I wish I was semi-pro. Apparently it beats being full time in most situations. Also... doesn't HerO have better overall results than Gumiho? o:
I believe Polt was training full time for MLG, but has recently went semipro?
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On May 02 2013 06:32 mikkmagro wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 06:15 redviper wrote:
Dimaga got so lucky Mvp was in korea. In both games Mvp was totally outplaying dimaga but sadly its hard to micro bio with that kind of ping. There were points in the game that mvp's units were just waiting.
Odds are Dimaga will end his run in Ro16. Really? I guess we watched different matches then. Dimaga played great. I'm not saying lag didn't hinder Mvp, but you can't take anything away from him.
dimaga way have played well, but playing from Korea on EU latency vs decent players is Lol. it's just a huge disadvantage.
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Mvp passes the first hurdle!
Onwards to the Round of 16 and the championship!
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Yay Mvp made it, super risky playing with the lag.
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Yay! Good job Mvp. Now get over to Europe!!
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Nice to see a Zerg going on in WCS, also grats MVE. you are indeed the Most Valuable European.
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In the post game interview, MVP talks a bit about the lag.
He says that he played some practice games on the EU server and the lag wasn't too bad.
However, during the real matchups, there were an additional 10 players added - all the observer spots, which made the lag a lot worse and the game harder to control.
He says being in EU to play the matches like MC did was probably more worth it than he originally thought.
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