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Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12484 Posts
May 02 2013 12:16 GMT
#5041
On May 02 2013 21:15 Killcani wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 21:15 Dodgin wrote:
On May 02 2013 21:14 Killcani wrote:
On May 02 2013 21:12 Archybaldie wrote:
On May 02 2013 21:10 IshinShishi wrote:
I don't think terran has the slightest chance in the late late game , very unlike WoL., battlecruisers are just terrible.


Ravens are really good in hots. PDD'S can reduce the amount of damage from a tempest by a dramatic amount. Additionally you have seeker missiles.

LOL try getting off seeker missiles against tempest range


PDD blocks tempest shots, if you have enough ravens you can throw down 3-4 pdd's and move into range for the missiles.

Yeah and a protoss is just gonna sit there when u throw down PDD's? Ofc he is going to back when he sees it so how are you going to keep protoss in place?.


I don't know, does a terran sit through storms and give away ghosts by the dozen?
No will to live, no wish to die
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
May 02 2013 12:16 GMT
#5042
Charge way before archives, interesting
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
rothsbury
Profile Joined January 2012
Australia1654 Posts
May 02 2013 12:16 GMT
#5043
On May 02 2013 21:14 jackdaleaper wrote:
Just tuned in again after a brief connection problem, how did Parting win last game? Last thing I saw before I got disconnected, Flash was on his way to 4 bases and Parting was just rebuilding his 3rd.

Flash starting playing really badly. He made heaps of ghosts to counter templar but controlled them terribly. Parting ended up getting a HT flank and killing off most of Flash's army, getting a good advantage. Game went on for a while after that with split map. Flash went BCs, Parting got tempests. There was eventually a big battle with templar / colossus / tempest vs. viking BC bio, which Parting won easily. He was pretty far ahead by that point with a big bank vs. flash's no bank.
shadymmj
Profile Joined June 2010
1906 Posts
May 02 2013 12:16 GMT
#5044
On May 02 2013 21:15 VmY wrote:
Between all the butthurt Flash fans and the protoss players feeling sorry for themself because apparently protoss isn't allowed to do well:

That was an amazing comeback by PartinG. Good to see he's still got that magic PvT touch.


it's not exactly about flash, it could be any terran player going BCs for that matter...or even ravens, whatever, which are still a bit of a dud in the matchup
There is no such thing is "e-sports". There is Brood War, and then there is crap for nerds.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
May 02 2013 12:16 GMT
#5045
On May 02 2013 21:15 Killcani wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 21:15 Dodgin wrote:
On May 02 2013 21:14 Killcani wrote:
On May 02 2013 21:12 Archybaldie wrote:
On May 02 2013 21:10 IshinShishi wrote:
I don't think terran has the slightest chance in the late late game , very unlike WoL., battlecruisers are just terrible.


Ravens are really good in hots. PDD'S can reduce the amount of damage from a tempest by a dramatic amount. Additionally you have seeker missiles.

LOL try getting off seeker missiles against tempest range


PDD blocks tempest shots, if you have enough ravens you can throw down 3-4 pdd's and move into range for the missiles.

Yeah and a protoss is just gonna sit there when u throw down PDD's? Ofc he is going to back when he sees it so how are you going to keep protoss in place?.


If he backs off you let your energy regenerate and the game goes on, once you become confident enough you can push him back, if he's backing off against every pdd then the map will run out of space eventually.
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
May 02 2013 12:17 GMT
#5046
On May 02 2013 21:12 Archybaldie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 21:10 IshinShishi wrote:
I don't think terran has the slightest chance in the late late game , very unlike WoL., battlecruisers are just terrible.


Ravens are really good in hots. PDD'S can reduce the amount of damage from a tempest by a dramatic amount. Additionally you have seeker missiles.

I guess pdds (with their great range) and little damage are a fair enough point, but not seeker missiles, these guys are good and they have feedback.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Taefox
Profile Joined March 2010
1533 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-02 12:18:18
May 02 2013 12:17 GMT
#5047
On May 02 2013 21:14 Killcani wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 21:12 Archybaldie wrote:
On May 02 2013 21:10 IshinShishi wrote:
I don't think terran has the slightest chance in the late late game , very unlike WoL., battlecruisers are just terrible.


Ravens are really good in hots. PDD'S can reduce the amount of damage from a tempest by a dramatic amount. Additionally you have seeker missiles.

LOL try getting off seeker missiles against tempest range

Do you actually play... Terran ?

edit:
oh u dont need HSM templar, just throw it to Protoss Deathball, it splashes dmg and deal with Protoss armor either
@taefoxy
Charlie.Sheen
Profile Joined March 2013
662 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-02 12:17:55
May 02 2013 12:17 GMT
#5048
On May 02 2013 21:16 Kommander wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 21:15 Charlie.Sheen wrote:
On May 02 2013 21:12 LighT. wrote:
On May 02 2013 21:11 Charlie.Sheen wrote:
On May 02 2013 21:09 Wingblade wrote:
WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW? That was one of the best games I've ever seen. Holy cow.


Flash is God of Turtle, without viable turtle strategy in SC2, he's average. His attacks and aggression are just terrible.

He's average without turtling?
YOu have no idea what the hell youre talking about. Stop posting.


I have plenty of idea about what I'm talking about, I watched almost every important games from him for many years. He's good at macro, turtle and starsense, but average in aggression and micro battles.


I'm not the biggest Flash fan but this has got to be the stupidest post ever written.


Calling people stupid without arguments doesn't make the other people stupid, it just makes you look not intelligent.
scrubtastic
Profile Joined May 2009
1166 Posts
May 02 2013 12:17 GMT
#5049
Parting on 2 base, gateway tech, double forge, templar archives finishing, denying Flash scouting

Flash also on 2 base, 2 medivacs, has marauders/marines and +1/+1, is going on the attack - no fight yet though
scypio
Profile Joined December 2011
Poland2127 Posts
May 02 2013 12:17 GMT
#5050
On May 02 2013 21:15 scypio wrote:
Horrible LR inc:

Star station
00:00 Flash at 11, Parting at 7
04:00 reaper-expand-reactor for flash, 1 gate expand into mcs for paring.
07:00 Parting goes double forge and starts 1/1. More rax for flash.
08:00 +1 w, stim and factory for Flash

10:40 Parting goes to 8 gates on two bases with 2/2 otw.
I play random | I like Hots | INnoVation | sOs | Tefel TOP1!
SeXyBaCk
Profile Joined January 2012
Switzerland174 Posts
May 02 2013 12:17 GMT
#5051
Flash didn't know what to do once he realised he couldn't attack anymore.

I really wonder what one can do against the Tempests. Split up 3 medivacs and go each side to attempt a base trade like you would against BL? Vikings alone don't cut it, especially not with storms out. IF BCs had their warp ability they could get in amongst the tempests.
thepuppyassassin
Profile Joined April 2011
900 Posts
May 02 2013 12:17 GMT
#5052
That crowd must be so disappointed right now... I feel like this happens every time. "Look bw fans! Come and see how well your bw heroes are doing! You see? SC2 is a worthy successor!"
...aaand flash gets last place in the group.

I feel like one of these famous bw pros needs to take the gsl championship... for the health of the Korean scene.
iiNsAnE
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany140 Posts
May 02 2013 12:17 GMT
#5053
Am I the only one who can't even watch it on 240p without massive lag ?
YT loads perfectly well at 1080p and the Twitch stream is just lagging like hell...
@insane_csgo
Huragius
Profile Joined September 2010
Lithuania1506 Posts
May 02 2013 12:17 GMT
#5054
Lol why are people saying to make Ravens ? BC and ravens are both shit, unless you somehow manage to EMP like 90% of all HT protoss has (which won't happen against a good toss).
Mass Ghost/Viking with Medivacs and few MM is the way to go. But in HotS, you have to hit before toss starts pumping Tempests with mass gates.
[OGN]Remmy
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1206 Posts
May 02 2013 12:17 GMT
#5055
Flash is gonna loose soon. He didnt scout that 2bf upgrades.
指原莉乃 應援
Wingblade
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1806 Posts
May 02 2013 12:17 GMT
#5056
On May 02 2013 21:16 Wingblade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 21:14 Wingblade wrote:
Should I try?

Losers' Match
(P)(P)PartinG vs (T)(T)Flash
Game 2: Star Station



Parting spawns in the bottom left
Flash spawns in the top left


0:00-8:00

Flash opening with a reaper expand, +1 and stimpack.
Parting with a fast expand into fast double forge with 1-1 started.


8:00-10:00

1-1 finished for Parting, 2-2 on the way.
Charge on the way for Parting, templar archives on the way.

Flash expanding to the 12:00 position
Flash finishes 1-1, going into 2 attack upgrades.
PartinG fanboy to the max, Rain/Squirtle/Dear/Scarlett/Bbyong are cool too. I don't always watch Dota2 but when I do I have no clue what's going on. GOGO POWER RANGERS
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
May 02 2013 12:17 GMT
#5057
If 2/2 finishes, Flash has to gtfo outta there
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9175 Posts
May 02 2013 12:18 GMT
#5058
On May 02 2013 21:15 Charlie.Sheen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 21:12 LighT. wrote:
On May 02 2013 21:11 Charlie.Sheen wrote:
On May 02 2013 21:09 Wingblade wrote:
WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW? That was one of the best games I've ever seen. Holy cow.


Flash is God of Turtle, without viable turtle strategy in SC2, he's average. His attacks and aggression are just terrible.

He's average without turtling?
YOu have no idea what the hell youre talking about. Stop posting.


I have plenty of idea about what I'm talking about, I watched almost every important games from him for many years. He's good at macro, turtle and starsense, but average in aggression and micro battles.

And yet in the last game his aggression and micro gave him a huge lead going into the late game... He storm dodged like a boss and killed the third... I agree it's not his forte but saying his attacks were terrible in the last game is fully retarded.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
May 02 2013 12:18 GMT
#5059
flash in a bad spot... parting about to finish 2-2 and 8 gates on 2 base while flash took a 3rd
[OGN]Remmy
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1206 Posts
May 02 2013 12:18 GMT
#5060
Parting played quite well.
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