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MOD NOTE: The bracket on Liquipedia is not final and should be assumed to be speculative. If you are a competitor, trust what MLG Admins tell you over the bracket.
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10166 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-21 20:27:15
April 21 2013 20:25 GMT
#3321
On April 22 2013 05:23 JustPassingBy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 05:22 Empirimancer wrote:
Mech -_-



Mario really needed ghosts and vikings, the thors (even though I really love that unit) didn't do him any good...


Yeah i don't know why he chose the thors, even if the toss goes air you should have vikings too. Btw he had ghosts.
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
April 21 2013 20:25 GMT
#3322
On April 22 2013 05:23 Sissors wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 05:20 Undead1993 wrote:
collossi against mech? srsly nony is gonna get destroyed here

You are seriously underestimating colossi. Mech is slow, and except siege tanks they outrange all mech. And siege tanks arent mobile, so colossi can flank and always have a local firepower superiority.

There is only one big problem, and that is stalkers die fast, so it is hard to get rid of vikings. Did you see many vikings here? In other words, colossi's were fine choice.

seems like you are right but i have always been told that collossi suck against mech so i build like 15 immortals when i see mech. hmm but somehow it still feels strange for me that this worked
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
Belha
Profile Joined December 2010
Italy2850 Posts
April 21 2013 20:26 GMT
#3323
So I can't find either Mario or Nony in the braclet. Fuck it.
Chicken gank op
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
April 21 2013 20:26 GMT
#3324
Still it was a very bad map for mech, so with a mapchoice, it will go a lot better I reckon. Having a sideway to blink into the main is a total bitch for mech.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
April 21 2013 20:26 GMT
#3325
On April 22 2013 05:24 Zax19 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 03:08 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On April 22 2013 03:07 Elite_ wrote:
Is the AriA on liquipedia actually the Woongjin Stars player?... There's no other Protoss AriA...

it looks like it should be RSM GM zerg
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/677001/1/RSM/
http://gamebattles.majorleaguegaming.com/pc/starcraft-ii-wings-of-liberty/team/rsmmmmmm

I don’t like this, qxc was supposed to play a winner of a ZvZ between foreigners and suddenly Liquipedia shows a Korean protoss Aria winning over one of the zergs. Are they tampering with the brackets?

there was a protoss listed there before on liquipedia. im not sure what it is exactly, now, because MLG hid all their brackets so we cant see shit. I was just posting the bnet account that was linked to the bracket id
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Elite_
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4259 Posts
April 21 2013 20:26 GMT
#3326
On April 22 2013 05:24 Zax19 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 03:08 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On April 22 2013 03:07 Elite_ wrote:
Is the AriA on liquipedia actually the Woongjin Stars player?... There's no other Protoss AriA...

it looks like it should be RSM GM zerg
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/677001/1/RSM/
http://gamebattles.majorleaguegaming.com/pc/starcraft-ii-wings-of-liberty/team/rsmmmmmm

I don’t like this, qxc was supposed to play a winner of a ZvZ between foreigners and suddenly Liquipedia shows a Korean protoss Aria winning over one of the zergs. Are they tampering with the brackets?

No, he was looking at the MLG bracket which removed the results of the previous rounds... AriA should be in the bracket.
Dvriel
Profile Joined November 2011
607 Posts
April 21 2013 20:27 GMT
#3327
Collossi +blink stalkers+chargelots+immortasl+archons...One of the most powerfull P combo vs Mech.The other one is the Tempest/Carrier/Void Ray/HT.

In the engagement near the 3rd base of NonY,Mario got 3 tanks idle and far from shooting.That makes huge difference in the battle and he just overextended.He need more hellbats and hold position with them in front of tanks and ofc scout for Collossi and be prepare always to add 3-4 Starports.Hope he learned.Anyways this map is perfect for blink and NonY show it.
Dzerzhinsky
Profile Joined March 2011
Scotland327 Posts
April 21 2013 20:27 GMT
#3328
On April 22 2013 05:24 Topdoller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 05:22 Wojciech Zywny wrote:
I guess mech still isn't that great vs protoss?



Actually with some Vikings mixed in i think Mario could have won, he started building them too late

Nobody expects the 25 minute mass Colossus transition.
"All science would be superfluous if the outward appearance and the essence of things coincided directly."
Belha
Profile Joined December 2010
Italy2850 Posts
April 21 2013 20:27 GMT
#3329
On April 22 2013 05:25 Godwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 05:23 JustPassingBy wrote:
On April 22 2013 05:22 Empirimancer wrote:
Mech -_-



Mario really needed ghosts and vikings, the thors (even though I really love that unit) didn't do him any good...


Yeah i don't know why he chose the thors, even if the toss goes air you should have vikings too.

Thors are in theory to break ffs. FFs are strong vs hellbats.
Chicken gank op
Cuce
Profile Joined March 2011
Turkey1127 Posts
April 21 2013 20:28 GMT
#3330
Go for the eyes nony! go for the eyes!
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Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
April 21 2013 20:28 GMT
#3331
On April 22 2013 05:26 Zarahtra wrote:
Still it was a very bad map for mech, so with a mapchoice, it will go a lot better I reckon. Having a sideway to blink into the main is a total bitch for mech.


Daybreak might still be available, unless Nony vetoed it.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
April 21 2013 20:28 GMT
#3332
On April 22 2013 05:25 Undead1993 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 05:23 Sissors wrote:
On April 22 2013 05:20 Undead1993 wrote:
collossi against mech? srsly nony is gonna get destroyed here

You are seriously underestimating colossi. Mech is slow, and except siege tanks they outrange all mech. And siege tanks arent mobile, so colossi can flank and always have a local firepower superiority.

There is only one big problem, and that is stalkers die fast, so it is hard to get rid of vikings. Did you see many vikings here? In other words, colossi's were fine choice.

seems like you are right but i have always been told that collossi suck against mech so i build like 15 immortals when i see mech. hmm but somehow it still feels strange for me that this worked

He didn't have any cannonfodder, that is pretty much it along with not being sieged. I'd still recommend going the immortal route(if you can get 15 immos in range of the tanks anyway ) and handle the hellbats with storms. I atleast really disagree with that colossi were a smart choice rather than more archon, hts and immos(or well air).
mongoose22
Profile Joined July 2012
174 Posts
April 21 2013 20:28 GMT
#3333
Man, I was so hoping Nony would make a few void rays and just charge-melt that tank line. There was nothing to shoot up for the longest time.
DomiNater
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States527 Posts
April 21 2013 20:29 GMT
#3334
Let's Go NonY!!!!

You can do this!
After I captured the elephant in the room, swept her under the rug for the hell of it... I welcome you to the melting through, of a planet that was selfish in its development of a healthy view.
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
April 21 2013 20:29 GMT
#3335
Did kawaii play against the tyrant yet?
The two NBA teams in states with legal weed are called the Nuggets and the Blazers...
FrogOfWar
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany1406 Posts
April 21 2013 20:29 GMT
#3336
On April 22 2013 05:25 Gescom wrote:
Wouldn't stargate play be great in a situation like this...?


That's what I thought. Probably too late/expensive to switch when he needed all resources to hold his ground.

/theorycraft
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
April 21 2013 20:30 GMT
#3337
On April 22 2013 05:29 FrogOfWar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 05:25 Gescom wrote:
Wouldn't stargate play be great in a situation like this...?


That's what I thought. Probably too late/expensive to switch when he needed all resources to hold his ground.

/theorycraft


Upgrades maybe..
The two NBA teams in states with legal weed are called the Nuggets and the Blazers...
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
April 21 2013 20:31 GMT
#3338
"The man who is trying to make it through those qualifiers".
Sick intro for Mario.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
April 21 2013 20:31 GMT
#3339
On April 22 2013 05:26 Belha wrote:
So I can't find either Mario or Nony in the braclet. Fuck it.


Use Liquipedia
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10166 Posts
April 21 2013 20:31 GMT
#3340
On April 22 2013 05:31 ZenithM wrote:
"The man who is trying to make it through those qualifiers".
Sick intro for Mario.


Better than "some random plumber".
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