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The usual: Don't flame casters or players. Don't discuss balance in this or any LR thread. Don't call your fellow posters idiots. Be excited, happy and entertained.
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
March 17 2013 05:28 GMT
#11881
On March 17 2013 14:27 BoZiffer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 14:26 eonDE wrote:
On March 17 2013 14:20 AgentW wrote:
On March 17 2013 14:19 eonDE wrote:
On March 17 2013 14:09 AgentW wrote:
On March 17 2013 14:05 eonDE wrote:
It's not just about the plane trip guys. At his age in Korea they don't stay up this late.

I think this is completely incorrect. The time on the clock is irrelevant to Life. His body is lagged and exposed to being awake at hours in which his Circadian rhythms don't want him to be, and that's the problem.

That's making a massive assumption that none of these guys make an effort to adjust. Every athlete has a program they do in order to deal with this. Unless he just got off the plane the very same day then I guess this does not apply. But more than physically, he's disciplined to sleep are a particular time.

Life, who can't play past midnight or whatever in Korea, changing his sleep schedule for a foreign tournament? I find that unlikely.

Well, I can't explain how of all the various sports that I've watched, not one constantly brings up players being jetlagged.


Its brought up all the time in the NFL when West coast teams travel to the East coast...

and its also very rare a team flys across the world to play a game.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
Slasher
Profile Joined September 2007
United States1095 Posts
March 17 2013 05:28 GMT
#11882
Suppy on his loss to Ret, wants buffs to Zerg rather than nerfs to Terran/Protoss:



SaSe on his loss to Taeja, the current shape of HoTS, continued problems in PvP

Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 17 2013 05:29 GMT
#11883
On March 17 2013 14:28 Shikyo wrote:
In the early game I saw Life suicide 2 lings to scout for the for 2 widow mines. Can you not hold position them? If you can, why would Polt not do that?

I'm pretty sure you can't
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slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
March 17 2013 05:29 GMT
#11884
On March 17 2013 14:28 LighT. wrote:
Life is unquestionably the #1 Zerg
Roro #2
and I dare say one of Symbol/Zero/Soulkey #3

but Leenoooock
jjakji fan
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
March 17 2013 05:29 GMT
#11885
I would like an early pool from Life here :D
Rostam
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2552 Posts
March 17 2013 05:29 GMT
#11886
On March 17 2013 14:26 LighT. wrote:
He can easily beat Last in Ro8


Don't be too sure, Last is pretty damn good
BW forever || Thall
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
March 17 2013 05:29 GMT
#11887
On March 17 2013 14:28 Shikyo wrote:
In the early game I saw Life suicide 2 lings to scout for the for 2 widow mines. Can you not hold position them? If you can, why would Polt not do that?


You cannot use stop micro with widow mines.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
March 17 2013 05:29 GMT
#11888
On March 17 2013 14:27 edgeOut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 14:25 Wintex wrote:
On March 17 2013 14:23 Tayar wrote:
On March 17 2013 14:22 Zealously wrote:
On March 17 2013 14:22 1raxexpand wrote:
life still the best zerg?


Of course, was that ever in question?

roro and symbol might disagree

Symbol is great in prepared matches, but I feel like Life can out-muscle him. RorO just seems like a weaker opponent than Life. Soulkey should stop meeting Life in the Ro16 so we can see Life ascend.


It's roro who eliminated life in ro16 of recent GSL.


Technically, he was eliminated by Parting, but yes - KeSPA Zergs have been Life's weakness for some time now.
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sibs
Profile Joined July 2012
635 Posts
March 17 2013 05:29 GMT
#11889
On March 17 2013 14:27 edgeOut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 14:25 Wintex wrote:
On March 17 2013 14:23 Tayar wrote:
On March 17 2013 14:22 Zealously wrote:
On March 17 2013 14:22 1raxexpand wrote:
life still the best zerg?


Of course, was that ever in question?

roro and symbol might disagree

Symbol is great in prepared matches, but I feel like Life can out-muscle him. RorO just seems like a weaker opponent than Life. Soulkey should stop meeting Life in the Ro16 so we can see Life ascend.


It's roro who eliminated life in ro16 of recent GSL.


It was parting actually who eliminated life.

Life lost 2 very close 2-1 matches.
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
March 17 2013 05:29 GMT
#11890
On March 17 2013 14:25 eviltomahawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 14:24 lannisport wrote:
Life is the zerg Jaedong really should've been... Intelligent, aggressive, possessing impeccable unit control and flawless mechanics (And of course a master of turning 0-3 to 4-3. He is Jaedong 2.0

What if Life is actually a clone of Jaedong from the future that has been sent into the past to dominate SC2.

Yes but he has pretty good teammates behind him.
whereas JD's best teammate was a fish.
mrjpark
Profile Joined March 2011
United States276 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-17 05:29:57
March 17 2013 05:29 GMT
#11891
On March 17 2013 14:25 skypacer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 14:22 Zealously wrote:
On March 17 2013 14:22 1raxexpand wrote:
life still the best zerg?


Of course, was that ever in question?

He is always been in question when his oppoenet is also a zerg. And that's why he is not always the best zerg player.


Eh, I'd say it's the other way around. Roro and Symbol are two of the best ZvZ players in the world. I think Life is better than them both at the other two matchups and a better player overall.
BoZiffer
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1841 Posts
March 17 2013 05:29 GMT
#11892
On March 17 2013 14:27 openbox1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 14:20 AgentW wrote:
On March 17 2013 14:19 eonDE wrote:
On March 17 2013 14:09 AgentW wrote:
On March 17 2013 14:05 eonDE wrote:
It's not just about the plane trip guys. At his age in Korea they don't stay up this late.

I think this is completely incorrect. The time on the clock is irrelevant to Life. His body is lagged and exposed to being awake at hours in which his Circadian rhythms don't want him to be, and that's the problem.

That's making a massive assumption that none of these guys make an effort to adjust. Every athlete has a program they do in order to deal with this. Unless he just got off the plane the very same day then I guess this does not apply. But more than physically, he's disciplined to sleep are a particular time.

Life, who can't play past midnight or whatever in Korea, changing his sleep schedule for a foreign tournament? I find that unlikely.


Do you honestly believe that these underaged progamers don't play SC2 past midnight in Korea?
Its just a matter of using an adult's account. You think they can't find someone above the minimum age to register a game for them to practice at night? When progaming is their job?


Its not Life's job. He specifically stated before his GSL win that he couldn't practice much because of high school... so I don't think its terribly unreasonable to expect for a person of his age that it wouldn't possible...
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-17 05:30:26
March 17 2013 05:30 GMT
#11893
On March 17 2013 14:28 Slasher wrote:
Show nested quote +
Suppy on his loss to Ret, wants buffs to Zerg rather than nerfs to Terran/Protoss:



SaSe on his loss to Taeja, the current shape of HoTS, continued problems in PvP


Does anybody else thing SaSe looks like a young White-Ra in that preview frame thing?
Long live the King of Wings
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 17 2013 05:30 GMT
#11894
On March 17 2013 14:29 LighT. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 14:25 eviltomahawk wrote:
On March 17 2013 14:24 lannisport wrote:
Life is the zerg Jaedong really should've been... Intelligent, aggressive, possessing impeccable unit control and flawless mechanics (And of course a master of turning 0-3 to 4-3. He is Jaedong 2.0

What if Life is actually a clone of Jaedong from the future that has been sent into the past to dominate SC2.

Yes but he has pretty good teammates behind him.
whereas JD's best teammate was a fish.

So Life and his days on Zenex are a more accurate representation?
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justinpal
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3810 Posts
March 17 2013 05:30 GMT
#11895
Besides Leenock and Life, are there any Zerg players that would have been expected to really win even in WoL in this tournament?
Never make a hydralisk.
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-17 05:30:42
March 17 2013 05:30 GMT
#11896
On March 17 2013 14:28 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 14:27 regizer239 wrote:
I wanna see Life play when hes fully rested


Why are we acting like he's been playing through the open bracket all day? He beat Minigun in like ten minutes. He might be sleepy, but it's not like he is playing below his regular level.

Wish Polt would stop doing the proxy reaper build now.


You're crazy if you think this is life's regular play. He would never drop a game to polt under normal conditions. Polt isn't even close to life's league, yet managed to take a game already. Kid is jetlagged like crazy and it shows in his face and play.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
pylonsalad
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada649 Posts
March 17 2013 05:30 GMT
#11897
Bogus has looked the most dominant player so far.
regizer239
Profile Joined March 2012
Guam327 Posts
March 17 2013 05:30 GMT
#11898
On March 17 2013 14:28 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 14:27 regizer239 wrote:
I wanna see Life play when hes fully rested


Why are we acting like he's been playing through the open bracket all day? He beat Minigun in like ten minutes. He might be sleepy, but it's not like he is playing below his regular level.

Wish Polt would stop doing the proxy reaper build now.


Not that he's mentally exhausted, just not fully awake.
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
March 17 2013 05:30 GMT
#11899
On March 17 2013 14:27 edgeOut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 14:25 Wintex wrote:
On March 17 2013 14:23 Tayar wrote:
On March 17 2013 14:22 Zealously wrote:
On March 17 2013 14:22 1raxexpand wrote:
life still the best zerg?


Of course, was that ever in question?

roro and symbol might disagree

Symbol is great in prepared matches, but I feel like Life can out-muscle him. RorO just seems like a weaker opponent than Life. Soulkey should stop meeting Life in the Ro16 so we can see Life ascend.


It's roro who eliminated life in ro16 of recent GSL.

Ah.. right. Sorry, my bad. Still, in vP and vT RorO doesn't seem as great. And the CK game that set was boring roach hydra. The chaos in HotS should be better the next time they meet.
The Bomber boy
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
March 17 2013 05:30 GMT
#11900
On March 17 2013 14:29 mrjpark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 14:25 skypacer wrote:
On March 17 2013 14:22 Zealously wrote:
On March 17 2013 14:22 1raxexpand wrote:
life still the best zerg?


Of course, was that ever in question?

He is always been in question when his oppoenet is also a zerg. And that's why he is not always the best zerg player.


Eh, I'd say it's the other way around. Roro and Symbol are two of the best ZvZ players in the world. I think Life is better than them both at the other two matchups and a better player overall.


Symbol has always been shaky in ZvZ. I was surprised when he defeated Curious tbh.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
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