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Benjamin99
4176 Posts
On March 04 2013 18:17 Xarles wrote: Is that why The Unstoppable Stephano got knocked out of the current Code S season?  That can happen for every GSL player. MVP,DRG,MC list goes on and on it really depends on the luck of the bracket | ||
opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On March 04 2013 18:00 totauksz wrote: also didn't naniva have like 80% pvps and the 20% left was keen and ensnare?  he was decent at that time but to make an example, some time ago Babyknight beat Polt and Rain in 1-2 weeks that's more impressive than anything Naniwa did in gsl haha, no. bracket luck is a huge part of gsl, mvp and mma got a lot of their championships dodging protosses. naniwa did well by dodging zerg, no difference | ||
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Deleted User 137586
7859 Posts
On March 04 2013 12:37 Shellshock1122 wrote: 2:00 CC first for MarineKing Nexus first for Lure rax for MarineKing gateway for Lure 3:00 2nd rax for MarineKing double gas for Lure rich gas for MarineKing cybernetics core for Lure 4:00 zealot for Lure 2nd gate on the way for Lure tech lab for MarineKing MARINEKING SENDS A SCOUTING SCV TO SEE LURE'S BASE 5:00 stim research started for Marineking ebay for Marineking 2 stalkers moving across the map for Lure another gas for Marineking bunker started at the main ramp for MarineKing reactor for MarineKing +1 attack started for Marineking Laughed so hard ^^ | ||
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totauksz
Ghana190 Posts
On March 04 2013 18:32 opterown wrote: haha, no. bracket luck is a huge part of gsl, mvp and mma got a lot of their championships dodging protosses. naniwa did well by dodging zerg, no difference no. logic doesn't work that way. luck plays a role for everyone that is true but the magnitude of that role is entirely different. luck handed naniwa nothing but pvp and the weakest terrans in code s at that time like ryung who had atrocious tvp and virus who nobody know why was in code s anyways. MVP in his 2 later gsls- in one had to beat parting, squirtle, ryung, puzzle, all very good vt the other I remember had the hardest paths to finals including every code s champion. quite obvious that this doesn't fall under the same category as a code s run where naniwa has to play vs virus and 2 pvps which was basically the only matchup at that time where foreigners were beating koreans regularly. naniwa was lucky as hell. | ||
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Mefano
Sweden190 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
It was clearly a historic moment. I, for one, am glad to have witnessed a Marineking scv scout live | ||
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Godwrath
Spain10126 Posts
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Qikz
United Kingdom12022 Posts
On March 04 2013 19:08 Shellshock1122 wrote: It was clearly a historic moment. I, for one, am glad to have witnessed a Marineking scv scout live Oh man can't believe I missed it. Starcraft history was made and I missed it. T_____T | ||
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On March 04 2013 19:04 totauksz wrote: no. logic doesn't work that way. luck plays a role for everyone that is true but the magnitude of that role is entirely different. luck handed naniwa nothing but pvp and the weakest terrans in code s at that time like ryung who had atrocious tvp and virus who nobody know why was in code s anyways. MVP in his 2 later gsls- in one had to beat parting, squirtle, ryung, puzzle, all very good vt the other I remember had the hardest paths to finals including every code s champion. quite obvious that this doesn't fall under the same category as a code s run where naniwa has to play vs virus and 2 pvps which was basically the only matchup at that time where foreigners were beating koreans regularly. naniwa was lucky as hell. naniwa beat creator puzzle and genius in pvp if i remember correctly - that's impressive even for the best koreans. virus had just recently beaten mc and nestea look, you can argue bracket luck all you like, but results speak for themselves. are you going to discount parting's WCG/BWC run where he beat a total of one korean to win $125,000? | ||
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nomyx
United States2205 Posts
On March 04 2013 18:17 Xarles wrote: Is that why The Unstoppable Stephano got knocked out of the current Code S season? He's the next zerg bonjwa | ||
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TheSayo182
Italy243 Posts
I wonder why they keep getting seeds at these koreans who doesnt care about their fans and forfeit the most important thing in the universe, the gsl, to pursuit personal fame and try to win ez money | ||
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Infinite Loop
New Zealand41 Posts
Give the guy a break hes playing a highly competitive game in another country. Imagine all the stress outside of the game let alone the stress inside the game. For some reason though he gets torn apart way more than other players. When he wins its because the people he was playing were bad or terrible, when he loses it's see told ya hes bad blah blah blah. Stephano live report threads are among the worst on TL, always the same arguments. | ||
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
On March 04 2013 20:15 Infinite Loop wrote: I don't understand why so many people are so hard on Stephano. It seems when something/someone becomes popular there is a whole bunch of people who feel the need insult and belittle said person/thing. Does it make people feel good about themselves to constantly throw criticism at him? I really can't fathom why people get so worked up about the guy. Give the guy a break hes playing a highly competitive game in another country. Imagine all the stress outside of the game let alone the stress inside the game. For some reason though he gets torn apart way more than other players. When he wins its because the people he was playing were bad or terrible, when he loses it's see told ya hes bad blah blah blah. Stephano live report threads are among the worst on TL, always the same arguments. Well, the "problem" Stephano has is his attitude. When you constantly does nonsense like that you are bound to get people wanting you to drop down. Not to mention his fans are freaking insane, calling him the best zerg in the world or code S champion the whole freaking time. It just gets very annoying and people want him to stop winning cause then his fans would shut up for once. | ||
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Targe
United Kingdom14103 Posts
On March 04 2013 20:18 Assirra wrote: Well, the "problem" Stephano has is his attitude. When you constantly does nonsense like that you are bound to get people wanting you to drop down. Not to mention his fans are freaking insane, calling him the best zerg in the world or code S champion the whole freaking time. It just gets very annoying and people want him to stop winning cause then his fans would shut up for once. This. Only thing I dislike about the guy is his fans. | ||
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Infinite Loop
New Zealand41 Posts
On March 04 2013 20:18 Assirra wrote: Well, the "problem" Stephano has is his attitude. When you constantly does nonsense like that you are bound to get people wanting you to drop down. Not to mention his fans are freaking insane, calling him the best zerg in the world or code S champion the whole freaking time. It just gets very annoying and people want him to stop winning cause then his fans would shut up for once. Yeah I can understand the problems with his attitude but instead of people insulting his attitude they insult his gameplay. Well I can see where the conflict comes from now, people don't like his personality so the break down his gameplay. It doesn't seem logical to me but I guess I understand why it spirals out of control. Still the fighting from both sides is really tiresome. | ||
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On March 04 2013 20:45 Targe wrote: This. Only thing I dislike about the guy is his fans. yes, i hold no grudge against stephano (in fact i generally will cheer for him against most koreans, save for my favourites) but his fans are most obnoxious | ||
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Awesomeness
Germany1361 Posts
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Account252508
3454 Posts
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Proseat
Germany5113 Posts
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revel8
United Kingdom3022 Posts
On March 04 2013 20:15 Infinite Loop wrote: I don't understand why so many people are so hard on Stephano. It seems when something/someone becomes popular there is a whole bunch of people who feel the need insult and belittle said person/thing. Does it make people feel good about themselves to constantly throw criticism at him? I really can't fathom why people get so worked up about the guy. Give the guy a break hes playing a highly competitive game in another country. Imagine all the stress outside of the game let alone the stress inside the game. For some reason though he gets torn apart way more than other players. When he wins its because the people he was playing were bad or terrible, when he loses it's see told ya hes bad blah blah blah. Stephano live report threads are among the worst on TL, always the same arguments. The problem is many people did not rate Stephano as he came on the scene later than their favourites. So certain loudmouths told everyone how Stephano was never going to be any good, and then when he made an impact at IPL3, these same people told everyone how he would soon 'be figured out' and disappear. There was a big thread about it but it stopped being updated when Stephano kept on going. But everytime he loses, these people emerge from their rocks to say I told you so. Obviously they have to make excuses when he wins and try and belittle his achievements. It is quite disappointing that some people have such an attitude when the community should be celebrating excellence and achievements in SC2. Anyway congrats to MKP and Stephano for qualifying to Code S. | ||
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