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Awesomeness
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany1361 Posts
February 16 2013 03:34 GMT
#121
On February 16 2013 12:33 CCa1ss1e wrote:
he was reducing the surface area.. was he not?


yeah...
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MattRz
Profile Joined April 2011
Chile1680 Posts
February 16 2013 03:34 GMT
#122
effot is catching up slowly
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ramask2
Profile Joined June 2011
Thailand1024 Posts
February 16 2013 03:34 GMT
#123
On February 16 2013 12:33 CCa1ss1e wrote:
he was reducing the surface area.. was he not?


I think so. Either that, or trying to repair it
Exarl25
Profile Joined November 2010
1887 Posts
February 16 2013 03:34 GMT
#124
I'm pretty sure the Drones weren't attacking. He was just trying to stop the Lings from getting a full surround on the Hatch, not that there were actually enough to do that.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
February 16 2013 03:34 GMT
#125
On February 16 2013 12:31 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2013 12:27 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On February 16 2013 12:24 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On February 16 2013 12:20 Shellshock1122 wrote:
[SPL] EG-Liquid vs CJ Entus R3
Game 1: 0-0
Stephano vs EffOrt
Map: Akilon Flats

0:00
Stephano spawns in the top left
EffOrt spawns in the bottom right

1:45
14 pool for Stephano

2:00
Hatch first for EffOrt
Hatch for Stephano
pool for EffORt
gas for EffOrt
gas for Stephano

3:00
queens and drones

4:00
ling speed for EffOrt
ling speed for Stephano
spine in the natural for EffOrt
baneling nest for EffOrt

5:00
baneling nest for Stephano
lings of EffOrt get a full scout of Stephano's base
spine in the natural for Stephano

6:00
Stephano looking to put on some ling baneling pressure against EffOrt but defensive banes and a spine make him back off
Lair for Stephano
2 more gas for Stephano

7:00
lings of EffOrt get into Stephano's main and scout the lair timing
4th gas for Stephano
air for EffOrt
2 more gas for EffOrt
evo chamber for EffOrt
EffOrt kills off 3 drones with his few scouting lings
evo chamber for Stephano
roach warren for EffOrt

8:00
Spire for Stephano
+1 range attack started for EffOrt
3rd base for Stephano
both players trading their banelings
EffOrt scouts the 3rd of Stephano
20 lings coming out for Stephano
+1 range attack started for Stephano
infestation pit for EffOrt
Roach speed for EffOrt

9:00
Stephano pushes back the lings of EffORt
3rd base on the way for EffOrt as well
Stephano sending lings to the 3rd of EffORt
Stephano kills the building 3rd of EffOrt - no cancel
pathogen glands for EffORt
lings fighting at the bottom of EffOrt's natural ramp
ling runby in the main of Stephano

10:00
muta production started for Stephano
infestor production started for EffOrt
Roach warren for Stephano
infestation pit for Stephano
3rd base restarted for EffOrt

11:00
mutas of Stephano fly in and start attacking the 3rd of EffOrt
4 queens of EffOrt chase the mutas away
+2 range attack started for Stephano
Roach speed for Stephano
ling runby in the natural of Stephano
Stephano doesnt lose any drones to it

12:00
pathogen glands for Stephano
+2 range attack started for Stephano
Hydralisk den for EffOrt
macro hatch for Stephano
Burrow research started for EffOrt
infestor production started for Stephano

13:00
contaminate on Stephano's evo chamber
Hydra range started for EffOrt

14:00
4th base for Stephano
Hydralisk den for Stephano
Stephano is 40 supply ahead atm
Hydra production started for EffOrt

15:00
Hydra range started for Stephano
2 burrowed infestors moving towards the 4th of Stephano
+1 carapace started for Stephano
burrow research started for Stephano
mutas are caught by fungals on the right side of the map
+1 carapace started for EffOrt
Stephano loses all of his mutas
ITs thrown out at Stephano's 4th
roaches of Stephano saves the 4th base
Hydra production started for Stephano

16:00
Engagement in the middle of the map
fungals on both armies
EffOrt has the better concave
Stephano rallying in more units but Stephano is able to push back Stephano's army
EffOrt take a 5 supply lead

17:00
4th base for EffOrt
burrowed infestors in the main of Stephano are caught and killed
Stephano is ahead 6 - 4 in the infestor count
EffOrt only has 6 roahces but 30 hydras
Hive for Stephano
Hive for EffOrt
Stephano pushing across the map again as he remaxes
2nd evo chamber for EffOrt
2nd evo chamber for Stephano

18:00
some roaches of Stephano are fungaled and killed as he moves back towards his base
ling runby at the 4th of Stephano before his spines finish
4th base of Stephano is killed

19:00
Greater spire for Stephano
4th base restarted for Stephano
+2 carapace started for EffOrt
EffOrt putting up a bunch of spines at home

20:00
+3 range attack for Stephano
+3 range attack for EffOrt
Corruptors started for Stephano
spire on the way for EffOrt
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32747 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-16 03:35:32
February 16 2013 03:35 GMT
#126
If EffOrt can maintain his lower Drone count consistently, his army will be larger than Stephano's, thus have better engagements with Roach/Hydra/Infestor. Problem is, Stephano's bank is larger, so his army will have the better remax capability than EffOrt.
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Goldfish
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
February 16 2013 03:35 GMT
#127
On February 16 2013 12:33 CCa1ss1e wrote:
he was reducing the surface area.. was he not?


It looked like he was attacking. Looked like he meant to a-move his drones to try to get the drones but accidentally hit his hatch.

As for surface area, it only works when you can completely surround it (Zerglings were already attacking).

Seems like misclick a-move.
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TheSayo182
Profile Joined September 2012
Italy243 Posts
February 16 2013 03:35 GMT
#128
how they can say stephano is behind? he has 20 workers more than eff0rt....
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FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-16 03:39:29
February 16 2013 03:35 GMT
#129
couple of Mutas are always nice even if they don't do eco damage, you get almost all the ovis and deny alot of vision. Hope Stephano won't lose, he had a small advantage all game long.

On February 16 2013 12:35 PhoenixVoid wrote:
If EffOrt can maintain his lower Drone count consistently, his army will be larger than Stephano's, thus have better engagements with Roach/Hydra/Infestor. Problem is, Stephano's bank is larger, so his army will have the better remax capability than EffOrt.


And drones will turn into free supply combat units once Stephano is maxed with a bank. So being low on drones is pretty bad and you have to attack into an equal army with spine and spore support. Of course having more drones opens you to a timing. But not really if you have them all game long.
ixzenxi
Profile Joined December 2012
United States138 Posts
February 16 2013 03:35 GMT
#130
He wasn't attacking it. He was surrounding it to reduce the surface area/block the hatchery so the lings couldn't get a full surround.
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
February 16 2013 03:36 GMT
#131
Normally I turn the stream off once I see Brood Lords, but since this is a Stephano ZvZ, my timing couldn't be better
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
Taipoka
Profile Joined November 2012
Brazil1224 Posts
February 16 2013 03:36 GMT
#132
Sorry but this game is just "coward".
These guys must watch todays gsl games.
And in the 7th day, Flash stopped macroing the universe.
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
February 16 2013 03:36 GMT
#133
On February 16 2013 12:35 Goldfish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2013 12:33 CCa1ss1e wrote:
he was reducing the surface area.. was he not?


It looked like he was attacking. Looked like he meant to a-move his drones to try to get the drones but accidentally hit his hatch.

As for surface area, it only works when you can completely surround it (Zerglings were already attacking).

Seems like misclick a-move.

Yeah, they were definitely attacking, but it's not like the hatch would have lived otherwise
Refer to my post.
warmus
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom196 Posts
February 16 2013 03:36 GMT
#134
Hmm, effort dropping roaches before he really needed to, I think he was trying to mindgame stefano into believing that his broods are coming sooner then they actually are.
Omnidroid
Profile Joined November 2011
New Zealand214 Posts
February 16 2013 03:37 GMT
#135
stephano has so much bank....
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
February 16 2013 03:37 GMT
#136
stephano has soo many minerals :O
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32747 Posts
February 16 2013 03:37 GMT
#137
Stephano's high Drone count is really paying off right now, his bank is huge.
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
February 16 2013 03:38 GMT
#138
I feel like if it's a long drawn out fight Stephano wins because of the bank. If the fight last only 5 seconds the Effort will win because he has less drones.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
February 16 2013 03:38 GMT
#139
On February 16 2013 12:34 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2013 12:31 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On February 16 2013 12:27 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On February 16 2013 12:24 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On February 16 2013 12:20 Shellshock1122 wrote:
[SPL] EG-Liquid vs CJ Entus R3
Game 1: 0-0
Stephano vs EffOrt
Map: Akilon Flats

0:00
Stephano spawns in the top left
EffOrt spawns in the bottom right

1:45
14 pool for Stephano

2:00
Hatch first for EffOrt
Hatch for Stephano
pool for EffORt
gas for EffOrt
gas for Stephano

3:00
queens and drones

4:00
ling speed for EffOrt
ling speed for Stephano
spine in the natural for EffOrt
baneling nest for EffOrt

5:00
baneling nest for Stephano
lings of EffOrt get a full scout of Stephano's base
spine in the natural for Stephano

6:00
Stephano looking to put on some ling baneling pressure against EffOrt but defensive banes and a spine make him back off
Lair for Stephano
2 more gas for Stephano

7:00
lings of EffOrt get into Stephano's main and scout the lair timing
4th gas for Stephano
air for EffOrt
2 more gas for EffOrt
evo chamber for EffOrt
EffOrt kills off 3 drones with his few scouting lings
evo chamber for Stephano
roach warren for EffOrt

8:00
Spire for Stephano
+1 range attack started for EffOrt
3rd base for Stephano
both players trading their banelings
EffOrt scouts the 3rd of Stephano
20 lings coming out for Stephano
+1 range attack started for Stephano
infestation pit for EffOrt
Roach speed for EffOrt

9:00
Stephano pushes back the lings of EffORt
3rd base on the way for EffOrt as well
Stephano sending lings to the 3rd of EffORt
Stephano kills the building 3rd of EffOrt - no cancel
pathogen glands for EffORt
lings fighting at the bottom of EffOrt's natural ramp
ling runby in the main of Stephano

10:00
muta production started for Stephano
infestor production started for EffOrt
Roach warren for Stephano
infestation pit for Stephano
3rd base restarted for EffOrt

11:00
mutas of Stephano fly in and start attacking the 3rd of EffOrt
4 queens of EffOrt chase the mutas away
+2 range attack started for Stephano
Roach speed for Stephano
ling runby in the natural of Stephano
Stephano doesnt lose any drones to it

12:00
pathogen glands for Stephano
+2 range attack started for Stephano
Hydralisk den for EffOrt
macro hatch for Stephano
Burrow research started for EffOrt
infestor production started for Stephano

13:00
contaminate on Stephano's evo chamber
Hydra range started for EffOrt

14:00
4th base for Stephano
Hydralisk den for Stephano
Stephano is 40 supply ahead atm
Hydra production started for EffOrt

15:00
Hydra range started for Stephano
2 burrowed infestors moving towards the 4th of Stephano
+1 carapace started for Stephano
burrow research started for Stephano
mutas are caught by fungals on the right side of the map
+1 carapace started for EffOrt
Stephano loses all of his mutas
ITs thrown out at Stephano's 4th
roaches of Stephano saves the 4th base
Hydra production started for Stephano

16:00
Engagement in the middle of the map
fungals on both armies
EffOrt has the better concave
Stephano rallying in more units but Stephano is able to push back Stephano's army
EffOrt take a 5 supply lead

17:00
4th base for EffOrt
burrowed infestors in the main of Stephano are caught and killed
Stephano is ahead 6 - 4 in the infestor count
EffOrt only has 6 roahces but 30 hydras
Hive for Stephano
Hive for EffOrt
Stephano pushing across the map again as he remaxes
2nd evo chamber for EffOrt
2nd evo chamber for Stephano

18:00
some roaches of Stephano are fungaled and killed as he moves back towards his base
ling runby at the 4th of Stephano before his spines finish
4th base of Stephano is killed

19:00
Greater spire for Stephano
4th base restarted for Stephano
+2 carapace started for EffOrt
EffOrt putting up a bunch of spines at home

20:00
+3 range attack for Stephano
+3 range attack for EffOrt
Corruptors started for Stephano
spire on the way for EffOrt

21:00
roach runby at the 4th of Stephano is cleaned up
+1 air attack started for Stephano
+2 carapace started for Stephano
Brood lords started for Stephano (5)
Greater spire started for EffOrt

22:00
Corruptors started for EffOrt
EffOrt has 41 hydras vs 17 for Stephano
11 infestors for Stephano vs 9 for EffOrt
Brood lords are done for Stephano
their creeps are touching

23:00
Effort sending a few roaches to each base for try and harass and free up some supply
brood lords started for EffORt
+1 flier attack for EffOrt
+1 melee for EffOrt
+3 carapace for EffOrt
more corruptors for Stephano

24:00
ITs thrown out in the main of Stephano
Greater spire being targeted
Stephano saves it
7 more brood lords morphing for Stephano
+2 flier attack started for Stephano
3 more broods on the way for EffOrt
10 corruptors coming out for Stephano
5th base finishes for EffOrt

25:00
Stephano starting to move his spines forward
EffOrt's broods come forward to hit the spines but Corruptors make them back up
9 broods for Stephano, 7 for EffOrt
armies engage
fungals everywhere
Corruptors of Stephano kill a ton of EffOrt's broods
Stephano takes a 60 supply lead
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WIllBIll
Profile Joined June 2011
590 Posts
February 16 2013 03:39 GMT
#140
Delicious win.
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