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On January 21 2013 04:28 magnaflow wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 04:24 Linwelin wrote:On January 21 2013 04:24 Thurken wrote:On January 21 2013 04:21 Gojira621 wrote: there are few worse buzzkills than trying to be happy for someone winning a big tourney and that person doesn't even look that intersted. I'm sure on the inside First is happy but that's another reason why a lot of foreigner fans don't root as much for a bunch of the korean players, because they show very little to no emotion when winning. When someone wins a tournament you want to jump up and cheer for them but if they don't look like they give a damn then you just feel stupid and wonder why am I even cheering. Since there are probably a lot of euros in this thread I'll liken it to a team winning a big soccer match and when the refs blow the final whistle the guys on the winning team just walking back to the locker rooms looking bored and uninterested. You pretty much never see that right? And that is also why lol is more popular, team show more emotion than shy individuals I don't think LoL is more popular than sc2 because teams show more emotions lol... It is much more popular for many reasons, that is def not 1 of them. I meant the team aspect of the game. Like for CS. It brings tension and more reason to play/watch/celebrate because you have other persons to congratulate (of course there are many other reasons). But anyway it doesn't really matter
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On January 21 2013 04:24 Thurken wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 04:21 Gojira621 wrote: there are few worse buzzkills than trying to be happy for someone winning a big tourney and that person doesn't even look that intersted. I'm sure on the inside First is happy but that's another reason why a lot of foreigner fans don't root as much for a bunch of the korean players, because they show very little to no emotion when winning. When someone wins a tournament you want to jump up and cheer for them but if they don't look like they give a damn then you just feel stupid and wonder why am I even cheering. Since there are probably a lot of euros in this thread I'll liken it to a team winning a big soccer match and when the refs blow the final whistle the guys on the winning team just walking back to the locker rooms looking bored and uninterested. You pretty much never see that right? And that is also why lol is more popular, team show more emotion than shy individuals
it is actually easier to show emotion when you are a team btw, i didn't see if korean team of league of legend show some emotion
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On January 21 2013 04:23 Asha` wrote: 안상원 @LGIMSeed LG-IEM
Seed with the puns
Haha, what a terrible pun. X-x
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On January 21 2013 04:29 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 04:24 Godwrath wrote: AM I the only one who wants IEM to throw First to the crowd so they can throw him to the air till he starts to give a crap ? Would you like to be put in a crowd of people who you don't understand? I'm convinced First gives many "craps", but is rather uncomfortable given, you know, that he's in a fucking foreign country surrounded by people he doesn't understand?
Could be the culture ..but if I would win something like this ..I would be jumping screaming .. and having shit loads of overlly positive emotions. Wonder how they act in their home country.
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On January 21 2013 04:30 Gojira621 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 04:26 Zealously wrote:On January 21 2013 04:21 Bowzar wrote: I just dont understand how you can dedicate your life to a game and when you finally win a major tournament you look like you dont give a fuck. Like I wrote above, their culture is different. Western culture demands (arguable) that you look really freaking happy and scream and jump and all kinds of stuff - Koreans may not feel the same way. Have considered that it may just be the foreign community not understanding Koreans (or at least the Korean culture)? It's not arguable, what are you even talking about? I don't celebrate and get excited about things in my life because of the culture I was raised in. I celebrate and get excited because things happen that make my adrenaline spike and result in really happy (or crushed) feelings. It is completely natural and worldwide. A culture that teaches people to never be excited about their hard work and dedication doesn't sound so compelling to me. If that is really the case then I feel bad for these guys, but then again there are plenty of korean pros who show a lot of emotion when winning and losing. And as far "it may just be the foreign community not understanding koreans" I don't know what there is to understand about not being happy when happy things take place in your life. The ignorance is strong in this one.
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On January 21 2013 04:26 NoGasfOu wrote: Imagine him winning 50k like Leenock did at MLG, I'm sure there would be a lot of emotions. Nope, Leenock is a showman, First apparently isn't.
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On January 21 2013 04:30 Gojira621 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 04:26 Zealously wrote:On January 21 2013 04:21 Bowzar wrote: I just dont understand how you can dedicate your life to a game and when you finally win a major tournament you look like you dont give a fuck. Like I wrote above, their culture is different. Western culture demands (arguable) that you look really freaking happy and scream and jump and all kinds of stuff - Koreans may not feel the same way. Have considered that it may just be the foreign community not understanding Koreans (or at least the Korean culture)? It's not arguable, what are you even talking about? I don't celebrate and get excited about things in my life because of the culture I was raised in. I celebrate and get excited because things happen that make my adrenaline spike and result in really happy (or crushed) feelings. It is completely natural and worldwide. A culture that teaches people to never be excited about their hard work and dedication doesn't sound so compelling to me. If that is really the case then I feel bad for these guys, but then again there are plenty of korean pros who show a lot of emotion when winning and losing. And as far "it may just be the foreign community not understanding koreans" I don't know what there is to understand about not being happy when happy things take place in your life.
Some people have trouble showing emotion. Whether that is based on culture or the individual does not really matter - the thing is that you can be very happy without showing it. Not all people feel comfortable shouting and screaming, whereas some do. Korean or not. Surely that is not hard to grasp?
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On January 21 2013 04:31 boski055 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 04:29 Zealously wrote:On January 21 2013 04:24 Godwrath wrote: AM I the only one who wants IEM to throw First to the crowd so they can throw him to the air till he starts to give a crap ? Would you like to be put in a crowd of people who you don't understand? I'm convinced First gives many "craps", but is rather uncomfortable given, you know, that he's in a fucking foreign country surrounded by people he doesn't understand? Could be the culture ..but if I would win something like this ..I would be jumping screaming .. and having shit loads of overlly positive emotions. Wonder how they act in their home country.
Absolutely - I would be too. The thing is, I don't feel I can't fault someone for not doing what I would do, in any given situation.
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On January 21 2013 04:33 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 04:31 boski055 wrote:On January 21 2013 04:29 Zealously wrote:On January 21 2013 04:24 Godwrath wrote: AM I the only one who wants IEM to throw First to the crowd so they can throw him to the air till he starts to give a crap ? Would you like to be put in a crowd of people who you don't understand? I'm convinced First gives many "craps", but is rather uncomfortable given, you know, that he's in a fucking foreign country surrounded by people he doesn't understand? Could be the culture ..but if I would win something like this ..I would be jumping screaming .. and having shit loads of overlly positive emotions. Wonder how they act in their home country. Absolutely - I would be too. The thing is, I don't feel I can't fault someone for not doing what I would do, in any given situation.
Zealously you are taking it too seriously, i wasn't saying "omg faceless no emotion koreans again!11!", just what i wanted to happen at that moment. I am not gonna disrespect the guy if he doesn't, it just was a bummer for me.
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crowd shouting "dziękujemy" = "thank you"
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Welp... looks like I fucked this one up pretty bad 
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Of all the ways I've seen a tournament thread derailed after it ends, this has got to be the dumbest way.
Well I guess It's better than discussing if Stephano is the next zerg banjo
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Pretty sure Socke becomes the sick nerdballer award.
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On January 21 2013 04:35 Godwrath wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 04:33 Zealously wrote:On January 21 2013 04:31 boski055 wrote:On January 21 2013 04:29 Zealously wrote:On January 21 2013 04:24 Godwrath wrote: AM I the only one who wants IEM to throw First to the crowd so they can throw him to the air till he starts to give a crap ? Would you like to be put in a crowd of people who you don't understand? I'm convinced First gives many "craps", but is rather uncomfortable given, you know, that he's in a fucking foreign country surrounded by people he doesn't understand? Could be the culture ..but if I would win something like this ..I would be jumping screaming .. and having shit loads of overlly positive emotions. Wonder how they act in their home country. Absolutely - I would be too. The thing is, I don't feel I can't fault someone for not doing what I would do, in any given situation. Zealously you are taking it too seriously, i wasn't saying "omg faceless no emotion koreans again!11!", just what i wanted to happen at that moment. I am not gonna disrespect the guy if he doesn't, it just was a bummer for me.
I see. Sorry.
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On January 21 2013 04:23 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 04:16 MapleLeafSirup wrote: oh look, an overly humble korean with no emotions at all won a foreign tournament again Well, maybe the foreigners should spend less time on emotions if they want to win something, then? Don't be silly. These guys are from a country across the world with a wholly different culture, and many of them are very shy. They don't speak the language and require translators to convey their thoughts. And you expect what, exactly?
An expression, maybe some indication that something fairly uncommon just had happened? ^.^
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On January 21 2013 04:36 Sated wrote:Awkward interview followed by awkward ceremony, no doubt. EVERY TIME, WHY!?!? 
new condition for koreans: if you don't show hapiness, you don't win the money xD
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They are not even done and all of you are complaining just wow what has happened to team liquid over the years? This is just down right sad to see the way you guys are putting down players.
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On January 21 2013 04:37 Makro wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 04:36 Sated wrote:Awkward interview followed by awkward ceremony, no doubt. EVERY TIME, WHY!?!?  new condition for koreans: if you don't show hapiness, you don't win the money xD
Many Koreans will go broke in 2013 then.
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