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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-20 14:30:09
January 20 2013 14:29 GMT
#701
On January 20 2013 23:28 MCDayC wrote:
So parting > First overall
but first is so damn good in these kind of events compared to GSL that he could still beat Parting imo.

They've only had 1 head to head meeting which parting won in the GSTL. However First seems to be good enough in PvP that an upset wouldn't surprise me

but at the same time Lee was/is a big First fan so there's no way he'll win a title
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imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
January 20 2013 14:30 GMT
#702
On January 20 2013 23:29 azzih wrote:
Was a good tournament, some nice and entertaining matches. But im not gonna watch the last games, only some koreans wich mostly i dont even know the name. A quaterfinal without even one foreigner is boring for me, i just cant identify with the korean guys, they even look all the same^^


parting looking the same as first? Maybe Schroder looks the same as Putin ?
Zest fanboy.
Deckard_Cain
Profile Joined February 2012
493 Posts
January 20 2013 14:30 GMT
#703
On January 20 2013 23:29 azzih wrote:
Was a good tournament, some nice and entertaining matches. But im not gonna watch the last games, only some koreans wich mostly i dont even know the name. A quaterfinal without even one foreigner is boring for me, i just cant identify with the korean guys, they even look all the same^^

You should watch the games, not the faces of the players... how ignorant
love can change what we want
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12071 Posts
January 20 2013 14:31 GMT
#704
I'm a terran player, but I don't even know who dream is.

SKT FIGHTING!

Or Parting I guess, but he's SKT now so I almost have to love him <3
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
Shikada
Profile Joined May 2012
Serbia976 Posts
January 20 2013 14:31 GMT
#705
On January 20 2013 23:28 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2013 23:27 Shikada wrote:
On January 20 2013 23:22 sAsImre wrote:
On January 20 2013 23:15 iSunrise wrote:
On January 20 2013 23:12 Chaosu wrote:
On January 20 2013 23:11 Shikada wrote:
On January 20 2013 23:06 Chaosu wrote:
On January 20 2013 23:04 Shikada wrote:
On January 20 2013 23:01 grs wrote:
On January 20 2013 22:59 Jimmeh wrote:
[quote]

They know what's wrong

[quote]

Good PR, but the Polish stream from the same venue seems ok?!


Twitch is very honest with their PR, so no need for such comments. Also Polish stream is super laggy for me as well...

I think there is a need for such comments, twitch site just died for me and Polish stream still FLAWLESS.


Yeah... it's flawlessly black...

You are just confirming it's from twitch to you, not from venue to twich. Thanks!

If the lag is from the venue to Twitch, Twitch cannot magically fix the lag, don´t talk nonsense, please. Twitch is relaying the data to us, there´s no magic involved. The upstream from Poland is the problem.


yeah that's why the polish stream work, oh wait...

Do you even know how networks work? They might be prioritizing their upstream for the Polish stream, and don't have enough bandwidth for the others. I don't know how Twitch function exactly, do you? Oh wait, you don't know... But go on, keep bashing Twitch for no reason with the others. It's not like it's the best, most stable streaming platform in the world. No way it could be problem with the organization of this specific tournament.

Please stop...


3k6 viewers for the polish stream eating all the bandwith... really ?


Are you just trolling now? That is not what I said at all. There are over 20k people in the main stream, and more on the others. They obviously don't have enough bandwidth for it all. Some may have an ok experience, but overall the streams are very laggy. The organization of this tournament is a massive failure, which is a shame because it seems well produced and the crowd is insane...
GTPGlitch
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
5061 Posts
January 20 2013 14:31 GMT
#706
On January 20 2013 23:21 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2013 23:20 Shellshock1122 wrote:
First is 16-1 now at IEM. Not bad

Yeah, wow. Perhaps he shouldn't be counted out. ^^ I first thought it's definitely between Parting and Yoda on who wins the tournament.


Pssh, neither of those punks took a series off of Taeja during his Summer Reign~
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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
January 20 2013 14:32 GMT
#707
On January 20 2013 23:31 Qikz wrote:
I'm a terran player, but I don't even know who dream is.

SKT FIGHTING!

Or Parting I guess, but he's SKT now so I almost have to love him <3


Did you come from BW?
If so that's probably why. He's a relatively famous Code B-A terran
iSunrise
Profile Joined June 2011
3302 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-20 14:33:22
January 20 2013 14:32 GMT
#708
On January 20 2013 23:28 Vertitto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2013 23:27 iSunrise wrote:
On January 20 2013 23:22 Sandermatt wrote:
On January 20 2013 23:13 iSunrise wrote:
Very bad control from Socke. He should´ve used FFs to isolate First`s units.


He had a collosus.

That collossus was very far behind and didn´t even take part in some of the fights. Socke sent one of his immortals too far into the middle and that got attack by 4 zealots, while the collossus was far behind First´s army. If he had used one or more FF to protect his immortal that fight would´ve turned out differently.

ff'ing he would force the colosi to move into the immortals range

The point of the FFs would´ve been to delay the zealots 1-2 seconds so the immortals get the maximum amount of shots of. If he moves in his colossus he would´ve been any easy kill for the immortals.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-20 14:33:15
January 20 2013 14:32 GMT
#709
On January 20 2013 23:31 GTPGlitch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2013 23:21 HolydaKing wrote:
On January 20 2013 23:20 Shellshock1122 wrote:
First is 16-1 now at IEM. Not bad

Yeah, wow. Perhaps he shouldn't be counted out. ^^ I first thought it's definitely between Parting and Yoda on who wins the tournament.


Pssh, neither of those punks took a series off of Taeja during his Summer Reign~

First is the guy who pretty much ended TaeJa's summer reign. Eliminated him from TSL4 and beat him at MLG
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imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-20 14:33:25
January 20 2013 14:33 GMT
#710
On January 20 2013 23:31 Shikada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2013 23:28 sAsImre wrote:
On January 20 2013 23:27 Shikada wrote:
On January 20 2013 23:22 sAsImre wrote:
On January 20 2013 23:15 iSunrise wrote:
On January 20 2013 23:12 Chaosu wrote:
On January 20 2013 23:11 Shikada wrote:
On January 20 2013 23:06 Chaosu wrote:
On January 20 2013 23:04 Shikada wrote:
On January 20 2013 23:01 grs wrote:
[quote]
Good PR, but the Polish stream from the same venue seems ok?!


Twitch is very honest with their PR, so no need for such comments. Also Polish stream is super laggy for me as well...

I think there is a need for such comments, twitch site just died for me and Polish stream still FLAWLESS.


Yeah... it's flawlessly black...

You are just confirming it's from twitch to you, not from venue to twich. Thanks!

If the lag is from the venue to Twitch, Twitch cannot magically fix the lag, don´t talk nonsense, please. Twitch is relaying the data to us, there´s no magic involved. The upstream from Poland is the problem.


yeah that's why the polish stream work, oh wait...

Do you even know how networks work? They might be prioritizing their upstream for the Polish stream, and don't have enough bandwidth for the others. I don't know how Twitch function exactly, do you? Oh wait, you don't know... But go on, keep bashing Twitch for no reason with the others. It's not like it's the best, most stable streaming platform in the world. No way it could be problem with the organization of this specific tournament.

Please stop...


3k6 viewers for the polish stream eating all the bandwith... really ?


Are you just trolling now? That is not what I said at all. There are over 20k people in the main stream, and more on the others. They obviously don't have enough bandwidth for it all. Some may have an ok experience, but overall the streams are very laggy. The organization of this tournament is a massive failure, which is a shame because it seems well produced and the crowd is insane...


is the job payed well at twitch ?
Zest fanboy.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-20 14:37:23
January 20 2013 14:34 GMT
#711
First is 16-0 in maps, since his very first game in the tourney when he dropped a map to Golden. Man can't lose anymore.

Parting and First perhaps got inspired by Proleague All-Kill and wish to have some "all-kills" (imaginary) here themselves.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Prog455
Profile Joined April 2012
Denmark970 Posts
January 20 2013 14:34 GMT
#712
On January 20 2013 23:24 trada wrote:
dont worry about the lag. now that only koreans are left the viewership is going to drop like 40-60% and that'll make the stream more watchable.


Funny because i just turned on the stream to watch the analyze of Socke and Firsts last game, and during that period of time the viewers has increased by about 2000. It is not a lot, but it is certainly not a drop. It would appear that people prefer relatively unknown Koreans over a ZvZ final.
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
January 20 2013 14:34 GMT
#713
On January 20 2013 23:31 Qikz wrote:
I'm a terran player, but I don't even know who dream is.

SKT FIGHTING!

Or Parting I guess, but he's SKT now so I almost have to love him <3

Dream beat Rain in Code A
#TheOneTrueDong
euroboy
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden536 Posts
January 20 2013 14:35 GMT
#714
In some weird way the english stream crashed for me but the sound is still playing without lag. So now I can watch the polish video with english audio, win
Lazzi
Profile Joined June 2011
Switzerland1923 Posts
January 20 2013 14:35 GMT
#715
On January 20 2013 23:29 azzih wrote:
Was a good tournament, some nice and entertaining matches. But im not gonna watch the last games, only some koreans wich mostly i dont even know the name. A quaterfinal without even one foreigner is boring for me, i just cant identify with the korean guys, they even look all the same^^

There was a german player in the semis...
It's good to be back
Chaosu
Profile Joined October 2005
Poland404 Posts
January 20 2013 14:35 GMT
#716
On January 20 2013 23:27 Shikada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2013 23:22 sAsImre wrote:
On January 20 2013 23:15 iSunrise wrote:
On January 20 2013 23:12 Chaosu wrote:
On January 20 2013 23:11 Shikada wrote:
On January 20 2013 23:06 Chaosu wrote:
On January 20 2013 23:04 Shikada wrote:
On January 20 2013 23:01 grs wrote:
On January 20 2013 22:59 Jimmeh wrote:
On January 20 2013 22:58 Whalecore wrote:
Stream is very unstable this event :/

Make sure you report if it lags (click wrench in lower right in stream window) so they get feedback and have some data in order to fix this.


They know what's wrong

Just a heads up, there will be occasional lag today for this stream due to issues at the venue causing broadcast starvation.

What is broadcast starvation? Broadcast Starvation occurs when the path used by the ISP to connect to the video server becomes insufficient to handle the video stream bandwidth.

The issue here is the connection from the venue to Twitch. Even before they enter our servers in the EU, the stream is already lagged. Basically, if you send a laggy stream to Twitch, we send a laggy stream to your viewers.

Good PR, but the Polish stream from the same venue seems ok?!


Twitch is very honest with their PR, so no need for such comments. Also Polish stream is super laggy for me as well...

I think there is a need for such comments, twitch site just died for me and Polish stream still FLAWLESS.


Yeah... it's flawlessly black...

You are just confirming it's from twitch to you, not from venue to twich. Thanks!

If the lag is from the venue to Twitch, Twitch cannot magically fix the lag, don´t talk nonsense, please. Twitch is relaying the data to us, there´s no magic involved. The upstream from Poland is the problem.


yeah that's why the polish stream work, oh wait...

Do you even know how networks work? They might be prioritizing their upstream for the Polish stream, and don't have enough bandwidth for the others. I don't know how Twitch functions exactly, do you? Oh wait, you don't know... But go on, keep bashing Twitch for no reason with the others. It's not like it's the best, most stable streaming platform in the world. No way it could be a problem with the organization of this specific tournament.

Please stop...

I know how networks work. Even if IEM is prioritizing Polish stream (which would make no sence for them to do) then if Twitch wasn't the reason you would have flawless Polish stream too, am I right? So why you're complaining that all IEM streams lag but all other Twitch streams work?
Please be patient.
Shikada
Profile Joined May 2012
Serbia976 Posts
January 20 2013 14:35 GMT
#717
On January 20 2013 23:33 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2013 23:31 Shikada wrote:
On January 20 2013 23:28 sAsImre wrote:
On January 20 2013 23:27 Shikada wrote:
On January 20 2013 23:22 sAsImre wrote:
On January 20 2013 23:15 iSunrise wrote:
On January 20 2013 23:12 Chaosu wrote:
On January 20 2013 23:11 Shikada wrote:
On January 20 2013 23:06 Chaosu wrote:
On January 20 2013 23:04 Shikada wrote:
[quote]

Twitch is very honest with their PR, so no need for such comments. Also Polish stream is super laggy for me as well...

I think there is a need for such comments, twitch site just died for me and Polish stream still FLAWLESS.


Yeah... it's flawlessly black...

You are just confirming it's from twitch to you, not from venue to twich. Thanks!

If the lag is from the venue to Twitch, Twitch cannot magically fix the lag, don´t talk nonsense, please. Twitch is relaying the data to us, there´s no magic involved. The upstream from Poland is the problem.


yeah that's why the polish stream work, oh wait...

Do you even know how networks work? They might be prioritizing their upstream for the Polish stream, and don't have enough bandwidth for the others. I don't know how Twitch function exactly, do you? Oh wait, you don't know... But go on, keep bashing Twitch for no reason with the others. It's not like it's the best, most stable streaming platform in the world. No way it could be problem with the organization of this specific tournament.

Please stop...


3k6 viewers for the polish stream eating all the bandwith... really ?


Are you just trolling now? That is not what I said at all. There are over 20k people in the main stream, and more on the others. They obviously don't have enough bandwidth for it all. Some may have an ok experience, but overall the streams are very laggy. The organization of this tournament is a massive failure, which is a shame because it seems well produced and the crowd is insane...


is the job payed well at twitch ?


Ah, so just trolling...
Elite_
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4259 Posts
January 20 2013 14:36 GMT
#718
On January 20 2013 23:35 euroboy wrote:
In some weird way the english stream crashed for me but the sound is still playing without lag. So now I can watch the polish video with english audio, win

gl hf syncing them up.
Thurken
Profile Joined September 2011
961 Posts
January 20 2013 14:36 GMT
#719
On January 20 2013 23:29 azzih wrote:
I just cant identify with the korean guys, they even look all the same^^

You could have avoided that sentence, man...
Baum
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1010 Posts
January 20 2013 14:37 GMT
#720
I think in this situations it's very crucial to set up the arc in a way that the other player has to fight exactly at the ramp instead of letting him come up the ramp as far as he did. You don't want your army to stand at the top of the ramp because then forcefields will demolish you but a little bit more forward than where Socke positioned his units. Then you can use your own forcefields to make the other person use the colossus to break your forcefields repeatedly which stops it from shooting for a bit and maybe even enables you to get some hits on it. Socke was close to holding but I think the first engagement was already a bit too much in First's favor.
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