On January 20 2013 02:51 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Coming from a pool of 17 foreigners out of 24 players.
Coming from a pool of 17 foreigners out of 24 players.
Well that's another story...
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Roman666
Poland1440 Posts
On January 20 2013 02:51 PhoenixVoid wrote: Show nested quote + On January 20 2013 02:50 Roman666 wrote: On January 20 2013 02:49 Godwrath wrote: Sad music for the last foreigner. Think of it this way: at least one foreigner in the semis! Coming from a pool of 17 foreigners out of 24 players. Well that's another story... | ||
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Emzeeshady
Canada4203 Posts
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imre
France9263 Posts
On January 20 2013 02:52 Emzeeshady wrote: Show nested quote + On January 20 2013 02:50 sAsImre wrote: On January 20 2013 02:47 Emzeeshady wrote: On January 20 2013 02:44 sAsImre wrote: On January 20 2013 02:43 Emzeeshady wrote: On January 20 2013 02:41 sAsImre wrote: On January 20 2013 02:40 Emzeeshady wrote: On January 20 2013 02:37 sAsImre wrote: On January 20 2013 02:34 Emzeeshady wrote: On January 20 2013 02:25 sAsImre wrote: [quote] the problem is more that it's too often a shitty match up with a silly lategame than its balance. Oh I don't deny that (although todays games are fun) It is just that a lot of Toss players have been balance whining over this matchup. it's more about asymetric balance imo. I think a lot of good old 2b all in are still really good against lower lvl Z. But once your opponent has a ton of brood and infest, well, knowing you have maybe 10% of winning is a rather frustrating feeling. This made me laugh some people... what's funny about this ? 2 base Protoss all ins go all the way to the top. i was thinking about stuff that are no longer used like a +2 blink stalker all in. With proper control you can wreck most Z. Even 2b colo build have still some potential. Sorry, I misread your comment It still doesn't make very much sense though. You say that old Protoss all ins still kind of work and then say it is ok for Protoss to frustrated because new Zerg metagame is hard to beat without bringing up new Protoss metagame which is working well. What i'm trying to say is that you can have a very good PvZ even at lower level, but the match up is really frustrating because your chances are really small lategame. Sure you can be winning 60% of your PvZ with blink all in and that's cool but you almost can't beat a max infestor/blord army. And the fact that the pro face the same thing (i'd love to have data about this but I think we can agree than Z late game > P late game by a good margin) leads to a lot of balance whine. Statistic balance doesn't mean the match up isn't fucked up. yes but you must admit the balance whine is not applicable. Design whine maybe... it's not rational :D but since balance whine comes from frustration (you don't balance whine a lot when you win or the match up is ok) it's normal that it comes out. | ||
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Doublemint
Austria8760 Posts
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StarVe
Germany13591 Posts
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
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kafkaesque
Germany2006 Posts
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StarVe
Germany13591 Posts
It's all wrong. | ||
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
Either way, as a history buff, this tournament reminds me of the partitions of Poland, with Germany, Russia (yes Kas is Ukrainian, but Ukraine used to be part of Russia), but instead of Austria, we have Korea, and they look to be taking most of Poland :p | ||
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Son of Gloin
Norway37 Posts
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Fragile51
Netherlands15767 Posts
On January 20 2013 02:56 StarVe wrote: Stop taking your stats from TLPD already, casters. -.- It's all wrong. I know right, International TLPD is a mess :< | ||
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AgentW
United States7725 Posts
I feel like I'm talking about the Hulk lol | ||
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Zerg.Zilla
Hungary5029 Posts
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Heartland
Sweden24604 Posts
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Mouzone
3937 Posts
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StarVe
Germany13591 Posts
On January 20 2013 02:57 Fragile51 wrote: Show nested quote + On January 20 2013 02:56 StarVe wrote: Stop taking your stats from TLPD already, casters. -.- It's all wrong. I know right, International TLPD is a mess :< Here in particular in head to head they're missing at least the BO10 in Pokerstrategy League which Kas won 8-2, that would have been nice to mention. | ||
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virpi
Germany3599 Posts
On January 20 2013 02:52 Heartland wrote: If Kas was an animal, what animal would he be? maybe an okapi, because it almost never sleeps. | ||
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On January 20 2013 02:56 StarVe wrote: Stop taking your stats from TLPD already, casters. -.- It's all wrong. I'm pretty sure Khaldor gets his stats from somewhere else, not TLPD. | ||
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Emzeeshady
Canada4203 Posts
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Godwrath
Spain10165 Posts
On January 20 2013 02:57 Fragile51 wrote: Show nested quote + On January 20 2013 02:56 StarVe wrote: Stop taking your stats from TLPD already, casters. -.- It's all wrong. I know right, International TLPD is a mess :< Time to tweet them about theBB's work. | ||
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