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Stop arguing about what is or isn't killing tournaments.
75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
January 19 2013 17:22 GMT
#1701
dont let it be 4 toss in semis, pls.
yo twitch, as long as I can watch 480p lagfree I'm happy
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
January 19 2013 17:22 GMT
#1702
On January 20 2013 02:21 AgentW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2013 02:20 stuchiu wrote:
I wonder if its the downtime or the IT nerf that is helping protoss do so well in this tournament.

I think the IT nerf is scaring people away from using them more than rendering them ineffective, from what I've seen.

The only game where I really noticed a difference was Kas vs Golden on Metropolis. Golden tried to fight 3-3 BCs with 0-0 ITs. It was pretty funny to see
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
January 19 2013 17:22 GMT
#1703
On January 20 2013 02:20 Elite_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2013 02:20 stuchiu wrote:
I wonder if its the downtime or the IT nerf that is helping protoss do so well in this tournament.

Or it's Korean Protosses... ;o


Or weak Zerg representation :p

Imagine if Stephano didn't cancel his invite
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
January 19 2013 17:22 GMT
#1704
Gotta go now, have fun guys
TLO fighting!
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
January 19 2013 17:23 GMT
#1705
On January 20 2013 02:21 BretZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2013 02:20 stuchiu wrote:
I wonder if its the downtime or the IT nerf that is helping protoss do so well in this tournament.


I've honestly been wondering that the whole weekend. Is the IT nerf that bad for WoL?

My HoTS games in PvZ have been going well when I'm usually losing convincingly. Does it really deter people that much to avoid ITs?


In lategame they lose a lof of efficiency (when everything is 3/3) but before it doesn't change that much imo.
Zest fanboy.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
January 19 2013 17:23 GMT
#1706
On January 20 2013 02:21 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2013 02:20 stuchiu wrote:
I wonder if its the downtime or the IT nerf that is helping protoss do so well in this tournament.


I haven't seen all the games in this tournament, but from what I've seen, the Protosses have better builds I feel. The new Warp Prism builds and the triple Forge build weren't the most common, but Daisy and First are showing how effective they are. Maybe Zergs turned away from Infestors because ITs got nerfed, but Infestors aren't the biggest factor so far.


Watching Toss, I feel they really came with new builds. That's why I think the offseason really benefited them.
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Mouzone
Profile Joined April 2011
3937 Posts
January 19 2013 17:23 GMT
#1707
Lol, is Snute wearing a lusekofta? That's so stereotypical.
InfCereal
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada1759 Posts
January 19 2013 17:23 GMT
#1708
On January 20 2013 02:22 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2013 02:20 Elite_ wrote:
On January 20 2013 02:20 stuchiu wrote:
I wonder if its the downtime or the IT nerf that is helping protoss do so well in this tournament.

Or it's Korean Protosses... ;o


Or weak Zerg representation :p

Imagine if Stephano didn't cancel his invite


It's my opinion that if you need "skilled" zergs in order to show the imbalance, then they aren't actually imbalanced.
Cereal
FlamingForce
Profile Joined September 2011
Netherlands701 Posts
January 19 2013 17:23 GMT
#1709
So what exactly has Jarret Cale been doing besides "Ooh I'm excited" and "What a great game!"?
I really like the guy and his work but he seems completely out of place :\
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
January 19 2013 17:23 GMT
#1710
On January 20 2013 02:23 Mouzone wrote:
Lol, is Snute wearing a lusekofta? That's so stereotypical.


Looks really comfortable though.
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
January 19 2013 17:23 GMT
#1711
Why do Koreans always wear jackets everywhere and any time?
RiZu
Profile Joined February 2012
Singapore5715 Posts
January 19 2013 17:23 GMT
#1712
if TLO lose, I guess it time to cheer for Yoda to stop the Aiur. Terrans are always our hero.
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
January 19 2013 17:23 GMT
#1713
On January 20 2013 02:22 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2013 02:21 AgentW wrote:
On January 20 2013 02:20 stuchiu wrote:
I wonder if its the downtime or the IT nerf that is helping protoss do so well in this tournament.

I think the IT nerf is scaring people away from using them more than rendering them ineffective, from what I've seen.

The only game where I really noticed a difference was Kas vs Golden on Metropolis. Golden tried to fight 3-3 BCs with 0-0 ITs. It was pretty funny to see


Socke vs Nerchio on Cloud Kingdom. Sockes 2-2 and 3-3 zealots just destroyed Nerchios Infestor play.
gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-19 17:26:27
January 19 2013 17:23 GMT
#1714
On January 20 2013 02:20 stuchiu wrote:
I wonder if its the downtime or the IT nerf that is helping protoss do so well in this tournament.


No good zergs in this tournament, sadly. Parting and Happy plus First are Code S - level (dont know abou dream and daisy), the rest is leagues under them and it shows.

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MosART
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1899 Posts
January 19 2013 17:24 GMT
#1715
Snute giving TLO the last hope strat---baneling bust.
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
January 19 2013 17:24 GMT
#1716
--- Nuked ---
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
January 19 2013 17:24 GMT
#1717
first time watching the stream, goddam that crowd is huge.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32755 Posts
January 19 2013 17:24 GMT
#1718
On January 20 2013 02:23 Heartland wrote:
Why do Koreans always wear jackets everywhere and any time?


Jackets are a bit of a status symbol in Korea.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
January 19 2013 17:25 GMT
#1719
On January 20 2013 02:24 Emzeeshady wrote:
Two factors for Protoss domination at this tournament

1. First and foremost there are simply better Protoss players here. First and Parting are far better then any Zerg players at this tournament and Daisey and Socke are arguably too.

2. Protoss was NEVER getting dominated by Zerg in the way people thought they were. There were times were Zerg was favoured by never even close to as bad as ZvT. ZvP changes hands on who is dominant very often. Tosses dominated the WCS's and then Zerg struck back with GSL 5. Protoss dominates Proleague then Zerg owns at Bliz cup. Not an imbalanced matchup, just very volatile.


the problem is more that it's too often a shitty match up with a silly lategame than its balance.
Zest fanboy.
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
January 19 2013 17:25 GMT
#1720
On January 20 2013 02:24 MCDayC wrote:
first time watching the stream, goddam that crowd is huge.

Not only that, they are cheering and enthusiastic the whole time. IEM Poland' crowd has been fantastic so far!
Get off my lawn, young punks
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