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Stop arguing about what is or isn't killing tournaments.
YoucriedWolf
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden1456 Posts
January 19 2013 17:19 GMT
#1681
No reason to have that bad creepspread
oogieogie
Profile Joined June 2011
United States3657 Posts
January 19 2013 17:19 GMT
#1682
is this series a BO5?
Broodwurst
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1586 Posts
January 19 2013 17:19 GMT
#1683
I don't get it ><
Fanboys = (ウ╹◡╹)ウ /// I like smiley faces
Prog455
Profile Joined April 2012
Denmark970 Posts
January 19 2013 17:19 GMT
#1684
On January 20 2013 02:18 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2013 02:16 stuchiu wrote:
On January 20 2013 02:14 stuchiu wrote:
On January 20 2013 02:13 stuchiu wrote:
On January 20 2013 02:11 stuchiu wrote:
On January 20 2013 02:09 stuchiu wrote:
On January 20 2013 02:06 stuchiu wrote:
Ohana

TLO - Top Right

First - Bot left

1:00 - First send a really early probe to stop hatch first, TLO opts for pool first.


3:00 - TLO has 3 hatches up. First has nexus forge and gateway up. 4 lings run across map and First doesn't wall off and loses cannon. Has to cancel.

5:00 - First pulls probes, but TLO keeps pressure on with 6 lings. Kills cannon again before zealot can force them off.

6:00 - TLO drones and uses left over lings to scout around First's base.


7:20 - First puts down Stargate. Lair, roach and evo going up for TLO.

8:00 - +1 weapons starts for First . Pushes out with a stalker and zealot to harass lings. speed for lings and roaches is starting with +1 weapons for roaches.

8:40 - First adds 3 gates and making phoenixes.

9:00 - First starts robo and loses a stalker on the retreat to speedlings.


10:30 - First adds on a Voidray. Sends out 3 phoenixes to kill overlords and some drones. Sees spire. TLO getting tunneling claws and +2 roach weapons.

11:00 - First gets 3rd and adds on immortals.


12:00 - Burrow roaches start harassing First and kills an immortal. TLO keeps trying, but First has the defense to kill them all efficiently.


13:00 - Infestor pit and glands are starting, but First moves across map sensing weakness.

15:00 - TLO counter attacks with roaches, Full base trade on.


16:30 - First has lost 3rd and natural. TLO has lost natural and main. TLO transfers drones to 4th, but First has voidray killing it. First was able to sneak out probes early on in base trade and TLO cannot eliminate First yet.

18:00 - TLO returns with roaches to kill army, but cannot fight heads up.

18:50 - Observor comes back and ends TLO

TLO GGs.

First 1-0 TLO


2-0 though
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
January 19 2013 17:19 GMT
#1685
Fixed it, First 2-0 TLO
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SneX
Profile Joined June 2012
Sweden377 Posts
January 19 2013 17:19 GMT
#1686
On January 20 2013 02:19 oogieogie wrote:
is this series a BO5?


Yes
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10131 Posts
January 19 2013 17:19 GMT
#1687
i was hoping for a mass spines crwalers in TLOs main and a nydus network while base trading, well i still cant believe he lose this game
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
January 19 2013 17:20 GMT
#1688
On January 20 2013 02:19 YoucriedWolf wrote:
No reason to have that bad creepspread


yes, much reason. Only build 3queens. Non creep build, so you dont have creep. Not so hard to understand that you dont have creep if you dont dedicate money to it...
pwnopotamus
Profile Joined July 2011
United States70 Posts
January 19 2013 17:20 GMT
#1689
I don't understand why Zergs don't build a Nydus Network when they do base trades. If TLO just got his entire defending army, queens, and drones over to the main part of his army in the Protoss base, he may have stood a chance. TLO had plenty of time to make the Nydus.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-19 17:20:22
January 19 2013 17:20 GMT
#1690
I wonder if its the downtime or the IT nerf that is helping protoss do so well in this tournament.
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Talack
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada2742 Posts
January 19 2013 17:20 GMT
#1691
Huge skill disparity between first and TLO, a better zerg wouldn't have possibly lost after that advantage earned in the early game
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-19 17:21:21
January 19 2013 17:20 GMT
#1692
On January 20 2013 02:18 Confuse wrote:
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On January 20 2013 02:18 Undead1993 wrote:
can someone tell me why you would build a spire when you see phoenixes? doesnt make sense for me at all.


because corruptor is a counter to phoenix? o . o

but infestors are much better and the infestation pit is faster than spire, and you can also use infestors against ground. makes still no sense
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
January 19 2013 17:20 GMT
#1693
How the hell did TLO lose this game ? I looked away when he was ahead after a ling runby and when i looked again burrow roaches dieing in to GG ...
Elite_
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4259 Posts
January 19 2013 17:20 GMT
#1694
On January 20 2013 02:20 stuchiu wrote:
I wonder if its the downtime or the IT nerf that is helping protoss do so well in this tournament.

Or it's Korean Protosses... ;o
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
January 19 2013 17:20 GMT
#1695
On January 20 2013 02:18 PhoenixVoid wrote:
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On January 20 2013 02:18 Big J wrote:
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarg... As much as I like TLO, if he wants to play Terran he should play Terran... This kind of aggression does not work with Zerg. It simply does not...


I liked TLO more as a Terran, it just seemed to fit his style better.


well, it suits him better, but i don't think he'd have the same results.
Zest fanboy.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
January 19 2013 17:21 GMT
#1696
Wait, ToD said P is strong against Z now? Ragnarök is here!
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
January 19 2013 17:21 GMT
#1697
On January 20 2013 02:20 stuchiu wrote:
I wonder if its the downtime or the IT nerf that is helping protoss do so well in this tournament.

I think the IT nerf is scaring people away from using them more than rendering them ineffective, from what I've seen.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32761 Posts
January 19 2013 17:21 GMT
#1698
On January 20 2013 02:20 stuchiu wrote:
I wonder if its the downtime or the IT nerf that is helping protoss do so well in this tournament.


I haven't seen all the games in this tournament, but from what I've seen, the Protosses have better builds I feel. The new Warp Prism builds and the triple Forge build weren't the most common, but Daisy and First are showing how effective they are. Maybe Zergs turned away from Infestors because ITs got nerfed, but Infestors aren't the biggest factor so far.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
BretZ
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1510 Posts
January 19 2013 17:21 GMT
#1699
On January 20 2013 02:20 stuchiu wrote:
I wonder if its the downtime or the IT nerf that is helping protoss do so well in this tournament.


I've honestly been wondering that the whole weekend. Is the IT nerf that bad for WoL?

My HoTS games in PvZ have been going well when I'm usually losing convincingly. Does it really deter people that much to avoid ITs?
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
January 19 2013 17:22 GMT
#1700
Should I LR game 3?
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