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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On January 20 2013 02:09 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 02:06 stuchiu wrote:
Ohana
TLO - Top Right
Daisy - Bot left
1:00 - Daisy send a really early probe to stop hatch first, TLO opts for pool first. 3:00 - TLO has 3 hatches up. Daisy has nexus forge and gateway up. 4 lings run across map and First doesn't wall off and loses cannon. Has to cancel. 5:00 - Daisy pulls probes, but TLO keeps pressure on with 6 lings. Kills cannon again before zealot can force them off. 6:00 - TLO drones and uses left over lings to scout around Daisy's base.
7:20 - Daisy puts down Stargate. Lair, roach and evo going up for TLO.
8:00 - +1 weapons starts for Daisy. Pushes out with a stalker and zealot to harass lings. speed for lings and roaches is starting with +1 weapons for roaches.
8:40 - Daisy adds 3 gates and making phoenixes.
9:00 - Daisy starts robo and loses a stalker on the retreat to speedlings.
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
On January 20 2013 02:10 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 02:09 KadaverBB wrote:
I think TLO shouldn't have killed the second cannon. He might have gotten a few more probes, but what do I know :d I think the 150 minerals he's guaranteed to kill is better than probes, good probe micro could save probes and TLO could lose his lings without killing anything. This way he's delaying the core and more probes. It's a good choice I think
On January 20 2013 02:10 Emzeeshady wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 02:09 KadaverBB wrote:
I think TLO shouldn't have killed the second cannon. He might have gotten a few more probes, but what do I know :d It was the right decision. Killing the cannon guarantees First having to spend 150 more mins when he is already delayed in tech. First wouldn't have lost more then a probe with decent micro anyway.
Damnit man. Great minds think alike? :D
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First has some gosu builds
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On January 20 2013 02:11 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 02:09 stuchiu wrote:On January 20 2013 02:06 stuchiu wrote:
Ohana
TLO - Top Right
Daisy - Bot left
1:00 - Daisy send a really early probe to stop hatch first, TLO opts for pool first. 3:00 - TLO has 3 hatches up. Daisy has nexus forge and gateway up. 4 lings run across map and First doesn't wall off and loses cannon. Has to cancel. 5:00 - Daisy pulls probes, but TLO keeps pressure on with 6 lings. Kills cannon again before zealot can force them off. 6:00 - TLO drones and uses left over lings to scout around Daisy's base. 7:20 - Daisy puts down Stargate. Lair, roach and evo going up for TLO. 8:00 - +1 weapons starts for Daisy. Pushes out with a stalker and zealot to harass lings. speed for lings and roaches is starting with +1 weapons for roaches. 8:40 - Daisy adds 3 gates and making phoenixes. 9:00 - Daisy starts robo and loses a stalker on the retreat to speedlings.
Its First, haha
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Germany25658 Posts
On January 20 2013 02:10 Emzeeshady wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 02:09 KadaverBB wrote:
I think TLO shouldn't have killed the second cannon. He might have gotten a few more probes, but what do I know :d It was the right decision. Killing the cannon guarantees First having to spend 150 more mins when he is already delayed in tech. First wouldn't have lost more then a probe with decent micro anyway.
Well, a stalker was very far away and he could have run around in the main for quite some time with his 6 zerglings. Getting a guaranteed cannon kill is nice though, so I am not saying that it was a terrible decision or anything.
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It's so sad when there's 720p+ but you can't watch it. I hope Twitch will get better on the European front someday.
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nice julyzerg creep spread!
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On January 20 2013 02:11 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 02:09 stuchiu wrote:On January 20 2013 02:06 stuchiu wrote:
Ohana
TLO - Top Right
Daisy - Bot left
1:00 - First send a really early probe to stop hatch first, TLO opts for pool first. 3:00 - TLO has 3 hatches up. First has nexus forge and gateway up. 4 lings run across map and First doesn't wall off and loses cannon. Has to cancel. 5:00 - First pulls probes, but TLO keeps pressure on with 6 lings. Kills cannon again before zealot can force them off. 6:00 - TLO drones and uses left over lings to scout around First's base. 7:20 - First puts down Stargate. Lair, roach and evo going up for TLO. 8:00 - +1 weapons starts for First . Pushes out with a stalker and zealot to harass lings. speed for lings and roaches is starting with +1 weapons for roaches. 8:40 - First adds 3 gates and making phoenixes. 9:00 - First starts robo and loses a stalker on the retreat to speedlings.
10:30 - First adds on a Voidray. Sends out 3 phoenixes to kill overlords and some drones. Sees spire. TLO getting tunneling claws and +2 roach weapons.
11:00 - First gets 3rd and adds on immortals.
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On January 20 2013 02:11 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 02:09 stuchiu wrote:On January 20 2013 02:06 stuchiu wrote:
Ohana
TLO - Top Right
Daisy - Bot left
1:00 - Daisy send a really early probe to stop hatch first, TLO opts for pool first. 3:00 - TLO has 3 hatches up. Daisy has nexus forge and gateway up. 4 lings run across map and First doesn't wall off and loses cannon. Has to cancel. 5:00 - Daisy pulls probes, but TLO keeps pressure on with 6 lings. Kills cannon again before zealot can force them off. 6:00 - TLO drones and uses left over lings to scout around Daisy's base. 7:20 - Daisy puts down Stargate. Lair, roach and evo going up for TLO. 8:00 - +1 weapons starts for Daisy. Pushes out with a stalker and zealot to harass lings. speed for lings and roaches is starting with +1 weapons for roaches. 8:40 - Daisy adds 3 gates and making phoenixes. 9:00 - Daisy starts robo and loses a stalker on the retreat to speedlings.
First!
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Yikes, that was a really bad idea by TLO.
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On January 20 2013 02:07 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 02:06 Influ wrote:On January 20 2013 02:00 forsooth wrote:On January 20 2013 02:00 JonIrenicus wrote:
In every game there is always and I mean always a spike of lag, and the stream suddenly dies.
I understand that own3d for many streamers is a bad choice, but from a pure spectator view it is pure gold compared to twitch.tv
PURE GOLD.
Not really, own3d runs like shit for me and twitch is almost always great. Because you are american, twitch is a lot better for you. In europe as soon as there are a lot of viewers or I am watching at times where a lot of people watch streams I am switching arround qualities or refreshing all the the time because its almost unwatchable else. This almost never happens to me... But when it does it sucks. Atm the stream is completely gone.
I don't know a lot about routing but from my experience or the thing I heard/read there are big differences even in germany and i get the shorter end of the stick a lot of times but there are a lot of people who have the same experiencesin europe.
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United States97277 Posts
so close to full edit stuchiu but you still missed the one in your original post
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Fenrax
United States5018 Posts
why was he attacking there???
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Odd. Twitch doe not work for me anymore. Commercial runs, then nothing. Never had any issue with twitch before. Gave different browsers a go aswell....hmm. Own3d works fine and starts streaming 1 sec after i click the link.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On January 20 2013 02:13 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 02:11 stuchiu wrote:On January 20 2013 02:09 stuchiu wrote:On January 20 2013 02:06 stuchiu wrote:
Ohana
TLO - Top Right
First - Bot left
1:00 - First send a really early probe to stop hatch first, TLO opts for pool first. 3:00 - TLO has 3 hatches up. First has nexus forge and gateway up. 4 lings run across map and First doesn't wall off and loses cannon. Has to cancel. 5:00 - First pulls probes, but TLO keeps pressure on with 6 lings. Kills cannon again before zealot can force them off. 6:00 - TLO drones and uses left over lings to scout around First's base. 7:20 - First puts down Stargate. Lair, roach and evo going up for TLO. 8:00 - +1 weapons starts for First . Pushes out with a stalker and zealot to harass lings. speed for lings and roaches is starting with +1 weapons for roaches. 8:40 - First adds 3 gates and making phoenixes. 9:00 - First starts robo and loses a stalker on the retreat to speedlings. 10:30 - First adds on a Voidray. Sends out 3 phoenixes to kill overlords and some drones. Sees spire. TLO getting tunneling claws and +2 roach weapons. 11:00 - First gets 3rd and adds on immortals.
12:00 - Burrow roaches start harassing First and kills an immortal. TLO keeps trying, but First has the defense to kill them all efficiently.
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Too late for infestors 
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TLO doing the classic roach overextension build. Go go First. :o
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TLO throwing this game with these worthless roaches.
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